DOUBLE MASTERS 2022: Booster Draft Archetypes And Playing Three Colors! | Magic: the Gathering MTG

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  • @Nokus416
    @Nokus416 Před 2 lety +126

    I love the idea of having a strategy for all three color pairings, but Gavin I'm sorry but this set is just way, WAY too expensive to see a large amount of people drafting this set. Which is really unfortunate because it looks like an extremely fun limited environment but far too many people are going to be priced out of it.

    • @Nouxatar
      @Nouxatar Před 2 lety +10

      Same here, I'm gonna get to draft this maybe once or twice at most, and it's a shame because it just seems so fun and you can tell that R&D worked really hard on making the draft format for this set as interesting as they could.

    • @lasterman94100
      @lasterman94100 Před 2 lety +5

      Sure, yet you're very wrong at the same time, the set is expensive yes, but packed with value and strong cards, which makes it all the more exciting to play, and I can assure you all masters sets are selling for draft (and in general) like hotcakes, if you want the standard draft experience, yu can still pick a box of capenna which is like a month-old, or older sets, or even try commander draft with baldur's gate which is out since last week. THere are a lot of products fr sure, but that also means everyone can find something for them in the mix, if you cannot, then maybe you're not a limited player, in the end, you dn't have to try out every single product, and if it's really important for you to try a draft with this set in particular, you can even make a proxy cube like one of my friends, there are lots of outs

    • @jianhaogao7608
      @jianhaogao7608 Před 2 lety

      Draft and sell the expensive cards

    • @Nouxatar
      @Nouxatar Před 2 lety +2

      @@lasterman94100 Yeah, I'll probably end up making a proxy cube based on the idea of "all three color combinations are supported archetypes" using this set as a basis. If I get the time and energy to, anyway.

    • @PopoTCG
      @PopoTCG Před 2 lety +2

      @@lasterman94100 shut up Stephen King.

  • @Soulus101
    @Soulus101 Před 2 lety +13

    This set would be excellent... As a commander draft experience. When this comes out so close to commander legends, it does sting a bit to see cards like Dockside Extortionist and the old-school legendaries showing up in a premium set. It's a shame. I'm not overly critical, I know I benefitted a bit from the last double masters with a couple of cards falling into my price range thanks to being downshifted or sufficiently reprinted, so I'm hoping a few more of those show up, but still, it's a shame that this opportunity was missed with Baldurs Gate.

  • @Hdtk2024
    @Hdtk2024 Před 2 lety +30

    Considering how expensive DOUBLE MASTERS is, im not going to draft it that often... ☹

    • @victorcarrillo2151
      @victorcarrillo2151 Před 2 lety

      Not at all

    • @caleb7882
      @caleb7882 Před 2 lety +4

      Probably costs 45 dollars a draft. Just can’t do it. Maybe once I guess, but I could draft a normal set 3 times for the same price.

    • @GabrielSilva-mv4fm
      @GabrielSilva-mv4fm Před 2 lety

      I'm less hyped with the set after this video... Awesome mythics and shitty set make us poor magic player sad

    • @dearvariant8682
      @dearvariant8682 Před 2 lety

      Theoretically. Cool

    • @TheChiminguito
      @TheChiminguito Před 2 lety +1

      This feels more like a set designed to people who are used to spend a lot of money on magic

  • @munsulight721
    @munsulight721 Před 2 lety +44

    I love about hearing about all these draft archetypes , I would like to Jund them out, but I think it is time to decide what you want to do with these sets.
    It is almost impossible to think that people will be able to draft these sets with the price investment it ask. I think it is time to choose what the company want to do with these sets. Reprints without caring about the draft at the same price
    Or less good reprints, but lower price per pack

    • @kildotgaming
      @kildotgaming Před 2 lety +2

      A box of Dm2 is cheaper than what dm was

    • @munsulight721
      @munsulight721 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kildotgaming Not where I live and you completely missed the point I made

  • @PopoTCG
    @PopoTCG Před 2 lety +6

    Hey Gavin, why are all the important commander reprints in this set and not CLB?

  • @Worldcat-hj1jo
    @Worldcat-hj1jo Před 2 lety +5

    I cant wait for my full set of 2X2 proxies to arrive in the mail!

  • @bobskerry9243
    @bobskerry9243 Před 2 lety +15

    Glad to have a "real" 3-color archetype Limited format (no offense to SNC!), and plenty of Alara love to boot!
    Though a question for you Mr. Verhey:
    Where we've "returned" to a bunch of planes more than once, is there any chance we might go back to a plane past like Alara, Lorwyn, etc in the near future?

    • @TheChiminguito
      @TheChiminguito Před 2 lety +1

      Lorwyn would be soooo cool

    • @SSolemn
      @SSolemn Před 2 lety +1

      Lorwyn was re-made as Eldraine.... but yes, I am wauting for more faeries, and hopefully a Sultai Faerie Legendary

  • @violetlazuli3998
    @violetlazuli3998 Před 2 lety +24

    A full 3 colour set seems like an amazing draft, but with the absolutely disgusting price of this set its not going to get the credit it deserves. Many can't afford it and those that can will often be more concerned on what they opened than on the draft experience. Such a shame

  • @patrickmcgovern966
    @patrickmcgovern966 Před 2 lety +8

    I like that this is built for draft but with the price point of these boosters I don't think I'll be able to afford to

  • @Meldon44
    @Meldon44 Před 2 lety +5

    You feeling oK, buddy?? You sound like you recorded that sick! :\ Hope I simply misconstrued and that all is good in your world!

  • @bobbyfasciano4137
    @bobbyfasciano4137 Před 2 lety +9

    Hey Mr. Verhey! Set looks great so far with some really terrific reprints, but there’s one thing that I was wondering if you could answer: Why is this product so expensive, and why is it more expensive than any normal standard product? It’s a reprint set, which means that it doesn’t take as much energy to design as a normal set. It has essentially the same number of cards per pack, but yet it’s double the price. The same amount of cardboard and ink and less time somehow leads to an increase of prices. I really really really want to get a chance to draft this set and put some of these sweet reprints into my commander decks, but I know I never will be able to. So I was just hoping for any answers. I understand if you can’t answer though. Thanks for your time, and of course thanks for another lovely video.
    Sincerely,
    A Fan Who’s Worried About Being Priced Out of their Favorite Game

    • @jamesgratz4771
      @jamesgratz4771 Před 2 lety +2

      He’s not gonna answer 😂

    • @Link-on9kg
      @Link-on9kg Před 2 lety +4

      because of the secondary market.

    • @pr0fess0rbadass
      @pr0fess0rbadass Před 2 lety +2

      All of this after WotC keeps announcing that it's making record profits

    • @Yesnomu
      @Yesnomu Před 2 lety

      Masters sets have a higher price point so that they aren't more attractive to buy than regular Standard sets. Since there's nothing new there, they're easy to skip, and you can just buy singles--a number of desirable cards will get significantly cheaper for a long time due to being reprinted.
      Sets have never been priced based on the work involved in making them, that's just not how their pricing works.

    • @DigitalinDaniel
      @DigitalinDaniel Před 2 lety

      Master sets have really good cards in them. They might say they don't pay attention to the secondary market, but imagine if this set was only $100 for all these great cards, you would never get them. Because scalpers, hoarders, etc would scoop them all.
      I'm just going to buy the singles I want personally, but if this set was $100 I wouldn't hesitate to buy twenty boxes for the long term gains.

  • @SSolemn
    @SSolemn Před 2 lety +4

    Too expensive... should keep the premium prices for real premium products like collector's boosters, because why charge more for normal reprints if its not because of the secondary market?... I love to play sealed, but I'll skip this one and probably come back on Dominaria.

  • @gyorgyor7765
    @gyorgyor7765 Před 2 lety +17

    My big issue with double masters 2022 is how parasitic it is towards CLB, Goblin Extortionist and certain other cards should have been in CLB, not Whale Bait 2022.

  • @cannibalskitchen8421
    @cannibalskitchen8421 Před 2 lety +2

    Bear's companion looks sweet, but it wounds my soul that the bear token it creates isn't a bear.

  • @corydiehl764
    @corydiehl764 Před 2 lety +1

    This is cool seeing 3 color draft archetypes again

  • @wdvcxserf
    @wdvcxserf Před 2 lety +3

    This set looks cool, but it’ll be hard to draft because of the price :/

    • @Pug8
      @Pug8 Před 2 lety

      Same I think an essential part of draft is being able to learn and improve between drafts but it’s hard to do that when you are priced out.

    • @wurdofwizdumb1928
      @wurdofwizdumb1928 Před 2 lety

      “This product is not for you”

  • @nathancuzzetto8581
    @nathancuzzetto8581 Před 2 lety +2

    Why build asset around drafting when we all just want good reprints for money? So instead of worrying about what reprints us players are wanting you're worried about having cards that synergize the archetypes. I don't know if that's the right way of thinking of a master set

    • @Pug8
      @Pug8 Před 2 lety +1

      The problem is they both want to develop sets for different audiences and they are trying to make everything appeal to every audience. When I bought yearly commander decks I wasn’t looking to draft so why force the other way?

  • @Pug8
    @Pug8 Před 2 lety +1

    I would absolutely love to draft this set as I adore draft and the design but as many would say I’m not the audience I just buy booster boxes and draft but I’m priced out.

  • @spacekrill
    @spacekrill Před 2 lety

    0:07 - WUBRG out of order
    Me - *confused screaming*

  • @dasfabelwesen
    @dasfabelwesen Před 2 lety +1

    Those archetypes seem rather safe, almost coresetish. what really gets me are the modern horizons architypes, where every set is a love letter to those who play for a long time.

  • @chandlermoses9200
    @chandlermoses9200 Před 2 lety +1

    This is awesome! So excited for all this 3 color support recently. Question: did you ever make a baldur’s gate archetype vid? I feel like I was looking for one but never found it

  • @jessehoward7279
    @jessehoward7279 Před 2 lety

    This set is gold! Great job

  • @DigitalinDaniel
    @DigitalinDaniel Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Gavin, can we get a new art for Lavalanche? Argyle does amazing work on all his other cards, but this is an eyesore. I can hardly tell what's going on even when it's scaled way beyond card size.

  • @Ashen-Crow
    @Ashen-Crow Před 2 lety +1

    Seems amazing, but in the country I live a draft of double masters is double the cost of my health insurance...

  • @williamsimkulet7832
    @williamsimkulet7832 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh, yeah... 10 3 color achetypes. I'm sure this won't be another SNC.

  • @justinleach4775
    @justinleach4775 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m super into Heroic Naya, just because I know there are going to be some unexpected ways to crank out value in this set using cards likely to be low in demand for other archetypes.

  • @Ketoinvestor
    @Ketoinvestor Před 2 lety +7

    I wanted to hear this rundown from Gavin during the first archetype spoil. That first one, forgive me for being blunt, hella boring lol

    • @violetlazuli3998
      @violetlazuli3998 Před 2 lety +1

      Downside of doing it live with someone who's not used to media appearances vs the usual pre-recorded things. It would be really cool to have these videos by Gavin as part of the big video at start of spoilers

  • @christopherarrowsmith7540

    If jeskai prowess is an archetype, then we must be getting a monastery mentor reprint, no?

  • @MasterP86
    @MasterP86 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey gavin, when will peasants masters will be released, since this product isnt for us?

  • @dennisbean110
    @dennisbean110 Před 2 lety

    I am excited to draft Jeskai Prowess seems like a solid idea for the colors and makes some really fun combat steps.

  • @KeeganMcKinney
    @KeeganMcKinney Před 2 lety

    Can you please make a video explaining the Specialize mechanic and the different versions of each card?

  • @Supportivechaos
    @Supportivechaos Před 2 lety

    5 COLOR GOOD STUFF!!!

  • @bucksreptiles8952
    @bucksreptiles8952 Před 2 lety +1

    When will this non stop product end?

  • @ronnierodriguez6247
    @ronnierodriguez6247 Před 2 lety +3

    Why is this new set so expensive

  • @BigDiff7
    @BigDiff7 Před 2 lety

    Unfortunately the cost, scarcity and demand for this set is likely going to keep many from being able to draft it. I'm going to try to draft it at my LGS, in which case I hope I'm in the seat for fun graveyard shenanigans.

  • @hectormancer
    @hectormancer Před 2 lety

    Yay Sedraxis Specter ! He was in my first " competitive" deck ( competitive is in quotation marks because it was 5-color - I was ambitious 🤣)

  • @dirksellsted6929
    @dirksellsted6929 Před 2 lety

    I signed up for a draft at the only wpn store with in 185 miles of me. $60 draft, honestly if I dont see a clear open lane after pack one, I'll probably just rare draft and hope. Im curious about defacing a card as part of its mechanic though? Circling two symbols is very far from chaos orb shenanigans but still.

  • @JimmieFae
    @JimmieFae Před 2 lety +1

    Mono red aggro

  • @theDJOcho
    @theDJOcho Před 2 lety

    Prowess baby! Since I'll only draft this $et once if at all, do I force it?

  • @JacobBos1988
    @JacobBos1988 Před 2 lety +1

    I was kinda expecting to see all 10 signpost uncommons here. Oh well :/

  • @mjunhzbgt1
    @mjunhzbgt1 Před 2 lety

    I would like to draft an archetype that I can afford, Gavin... without selling a kidney... guess "this product is not for you" applies here

  • @daviderde
    @daviderde Před 2 lety +1

    gavin your voice dropped an octave

  • @marklehman5272
    @marklehman5272 Před 2 lety +3

    It's time to stop building premium sets for draft. We just don't need it

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 Před 2 lety

    How about some new art for Mairsil the Pretender? I want to build him, but I want something a bit more out of the box as far as the art goes.
    How do Wizards employees and the RC deal with all the sub 80IQ screeching from the community? Nothing ever seems good enough. I see posts comparing Gifts Ungiven to Intuition as being the same power level with 100s of likes, like an extra tutored card to hand is nothing lol.

  • @solidius642
    @solidius642 Před 2 lety

    extended art ?

  • @daveclarke1990
    @daveclarke1990 Před 2 lety

    Voice is sounding kinda rough Gavin, hope you can get a chance to rest up and feel better

  • @jameshilden8592
    @jameshilden8592 Před 2 lety

    You guys are special if you think people are going to buy this set.

  • @HontoBakabaka
    @HontoBakabaka Před 2 lety

    Why are you in such a hurry? I understand you want your vids to be somewhat short, but I almost couldn't keep up here. Making me feel stressed here rather than excited.

  • @nexes6691
    @nexes6691 Před 2 lety

    Why is everyone focused on three color decks. Iv almost always found duel colors to be as strong or stronger an almost always more consistency??? Someone please highlight the power of duel color decks an bring them back from obscurity.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • @corydiehl764
    @corydiehl764 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm just hoping to see doubling season and parallel lives

  • @Tyabann
    @Tyabann Před 2 lety +1

    have a cold, Gavin?

  • @Ketoinvestor
    @Ketoinvestor Před 2 lety

    Lesgo!!!!!!

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 Před 2 lety

    : D

  • @alext.1244
    @alext.1244 Před 2 lety

    why does it sound like someone punched u in the throat? LOL

  • @Naustrawarlock
    @Naustrawarlock Před 2 lety +1

    Ho well Gavin Boring talking about draft. Wotc found a new way to combat insomnia.

  • @irreleverent
    @irreleverent Před 2 lety

    If you're going to put so much effort into the draft environment of a set like this y'all should probably not price it such that no one will ever want to draft it. You're wasting your own resources laboring under the delusion that anyone is here for limited when they have to mortgage their house to buy a draft box.

  • @classicalteacher
    @classicalteacher Před 2 lety +2

    I want to draft this... but inflation. Food for family or Magic cards? Thanks Brandon. You got, I mean did this.

  • @XiaosChannel
    @XiaosChannel Před 2 lety

    your voice is low and uncomfortable to listen to

  • @yargotkd
    @yargotkd Před 2 lety +1

    It sucks that sets like this one care about draft.