Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 - Summons
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
- Been wanting to upload a simple video like this for a while. An extremely common question I get during streams is "What does (insert Summon here) do?". Now we have a video reference explaining it. Summons are incredibly underrated not just in KH1, but in KH2 as well. They can greatly assist you in fights you may struggle with, especially in Crit or LV1 Crit playthoughs.
I think the only important info I missed in the vid is that you cannot Summon if you don't have party members, with the exception being Xigbar you just cannot Summon.
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Personally, Stitch is the best summon. He's a big help in fights like Terra/Lingering Will and both Demyx's (normal and data version). The only disadvantage is that he trolls with you a lot.
+Nayem Rahman He's also quite helpful during the Underworld Cups.
+deathshadow2492 Yeah. Because of stitch i was able to plat the HD 2.5 remake of KH2 as the missions in the Olympics were a pain.
See, I rage quit 2.5 due to the data fights being rigged as all hell...
nah data fights are easy once you master basically everything about kingdom hearts 2
That is literally the opposite of easy. "master everything and it's easy."
I feel like an idiot for using summons for their limits.....
Nah, I did the same thing too. It's all good if got the job done LOL.
I used Peter Pan and his limit to help me finish off that Experiment thing in Christmas/Halloweentown.
Haha sometimes they're great for finishing off enemies
don't feel too bad, that's the best way to level the summon bar if you can't juggle the exp bar between numbers-that is having it go below one number and collecting orbs/hitting enemies to have it go up a number again before it drains to the lower number once more. Both decreases give a summon exp point, while summon limits give however many bars of summon gauge they drain
I only used chicken little for the limit.
Genie: "I can't kill anyone. So don't ask."
Also Genie: *photon blasts nobodies*
They are No one so loop hole
He can't kill, but he can still punch people.
Genie: I can't kill nobody
Nobodies: So that was a fuckin lie
I believe you forgot to mention that Chicken Little throws potions on Sora when low on HP, just like Genie does. This is on top of the small healing received for every hit scored on an enemy.
Leon Ryu I might have forgot to mention that
It's also worth noting that Tink's Auto-Life will not trigger on Olympus Cups. Found that out the hard way on Crit Hades Paradox.
BlueBlur64 Dude, sweet PFP! I that Sonic art is actually really cool. Lol
@@MuffinMythos it's from sonic battle I think
I'll be honest, they really do poorly express to the player just what the summons do. Testing each of them out in my first playthrough years ago I've never really noticed any of these useful abilities. Chicken Little felt like a gimmick that was only there just because, Stitch did little overall except maybe launch and attack or stun everyone every now and then - though I found him useful in the underworld cups sometimes - and Peter Pan did little or nothing at all. The only one I valued was Genie since he could put out reliable damage to a group of enemies and was pretty easy to understand.
I wish I knew each of the other summons had such utility, and wasn't about the damage output. I probably would have used them far more often than reserving the drive gauge for drive forms, which I had little understanding of their unique abilities anyways. Thanks for the video, it really helped a lot.
yeah same. i've played kh2 on crit twice and barely ever used summmons because i didnd't know what they did. now i'm doing a level 1 run and realized i should probably learn what these summons do lmao. kh1 also didn't really explain summons but those ones are more intuitive and easier to understand what they do without a guide
Summons in this game are super underrated! Stitch helped me beat Larxene at lv1!
This game is so nearly perfect. Even 10 years after I get this game for the first time, I still discover new things. :)
Chicken little is used to destroy record runs and be the RNG king.
7:07 Has anyone else noticed Stitch heals you 1 HP per drive bar?
I don't know if this is correct or not, because i only just noticed it in this video, but when you said that Stitch can very slowly heal you over the course of time, by the looks of it you get a little bit of HP every time the summon bar goes down, which is probably why it seems so rare, cause whenever you use him, you continuously keep the summon bar up.
Chicken Little 1:27
Genie 3:28
Genie Valor 4:22 Wisdom 4:37
Master 4:48 Final 4:59
Stich 5:33
Peter Pan 8:03
While summons are underrated, I feel like stuff like Drive Forms and Limits are just better in most scenarios, which is why they mostly get thrown to the wayside
I fell the oposide. Summons are way better then Drive Forms. Less Damage but safer. Well when they are available. There are a lot of Data fights where they are not.
Try playing level 1 critical.
I literally cannot imagine fighting Demyx without summons, or the creation monster in halloween town second visit.
I remember my original critical run. I actually leveled up and I struggled so much but only got through since I didn’t die In one hit.
But boy does Chicken little and peter pan save my life. The only form that is useful in level 1 is Limit form.
No joke, I literally die using the other forms. Limit gives me invincibility. I like to use Ars Arcanium.
@@sofaris576 I agree and you don't run into the risk of anti form when using summons
Thanks for this video, I watched it back when it was brand new, and this is REALLY helpful for my first KH2 Level 1 playthrough.
8 years. I have played this game since 2009 and still I learned things I never ever knew. It doesn't help that there seems to be no in-game way to look up this information. Thanks Bizkit!
*i've been waiting for someone to do this, its perfect, definitely subscribing*
Hi Bizkit! I use your KH2FM lvl 1 speed run for my Critical speedrun. Thanks for the tips and techniques! You make it look so easy :)
How about a kh 1.5 summons video? :)
+coverandoacasa KH1 summons overall were pretty straight forward, all of them except for tinker bell were used for damage output
+StickmanSham You can combine Bambi and Thundara to Kill heartleas quick and farming Elexirs. But otherwise you right. With some MP management they are a great fore killing normal enemies.
Also, depending on world, Bambi can drop some really rare stuff. Great for Lucid Crystals...sometimes!
+Woodenfan I love you kory, best animu ever
@@Woodenfan had no idea! Thanks!
Stitch is the main reason I bought Kingdom Hearts 2 he was especially helpful during Demyx's boss fight after numerous attempts with just Donald and Goofy. I so hated Demyx's water forms but using Stitch twice during the battle he helped me pull through
*Dance Water Dance!* i know the feeling i hate too demyx
I hope they put Bahamut in KH3
FourAngelsX same
This ain't Final Fantasy bruh. One of the strongest points of KH is that it's very reminiscent of FF but only if you payed attention and tried to look real hard , because it's at the same time very different and original.
+Matt Gray you dont have to look hard to see all the ff influence. Are you really telling me that you would rather summon something lame like chicken little over Bahamut.One ff summon wouldnt hurt the game.
+FourAngelsX Also Bahamuth was supposed to be in KHI the option to summon him still exist in the game's data but for some reason they never finished to program it.
+FourAngelsX Honestly I would prefer to summon Stich instad of Bahamut but only because is one of my favorit Character in all of Fiction. A Mix of Disney and FF Summons would be cool thought. Bahamut is meybe a bit to big fore the maps. And make him smaller takes away something of his apeal. But Summons like Shiva, Rhamu and the Magus Sisters could work in KH3.
This is really helpful! I've played through KH2 several times and only attempted summons 3 or 4 times in total because I couldn't figure out what to do or which one is best to use. Thanks for the video! :)
You play Love Nikki right?
Hey Biz, is there any website that lists every gameplay change from kh2 to kh2fm? Besides the new things that were added many things that already were in the game were changed, and i'd like to know which ones and how (like the valor genie nerf)
These videos are really great. Can you do a video about the mushroom 13 please? Most of them aren't too bad but mushroom 8 is just evil.
The thumbnail has a threatening aura
As he talks about Stich, and fight against the Nobodys and the Heartless of Space Paranoids, where is he? It looks like the Arena of Olymp but i have never seen this place.
I never used them ever. I feel like an idiot.
I’m curious, how did you make the game Japanese? Or, was it a Japanese copy?
Very great and informative video, you've opened up another element to explore for me..
Hey buddy, i noticed during the start of your video you was using genie to annihilate that nobody wave at the end of cave of rememberance. Please I need advice as I tried hundreds of times and still can't manage to pull a win.
This was a really interesting video. Played KH2 and variants 6 or 7 times now and I never once realised they did all this, I used to just spam the limits
The game kinda tries to tell you what they do in the status menu like chicken little bringing distant enemies in
Could you make a quick in-depth video on invincibility frames during dodge roll?
Great video, you are amazing at explaining things.
Bro thank you so much for this video. Playing on critical for the first time and i knew there had to be a good use for summons
i manage chicken summoning 1 time an i didnt know how🤷♂️ my max drive at 4 does it need to be 5?
I didn't even know stitch could parry hits for you, that's actually pretty crazy and useful
Thnx for the upload Bizkit047.This really helped out.
Are you planning to do any other guides, like drives for instance?
I usually end up using Peter Pan for the cave of remembrance nobody fights, the auto life fail safe is nice but magnet magic into combos is also rewarded with mp orbs to replenish the heftier cost of magnet. If Tinkerbell's auto life is lost, then I am a bit more careful and use his limit to heal up with hp orbs and run it out a little quicker to resummon.
The HP restoration seems to be linked to the summon gauge dropping by a number. Sora appears to get one HP when the summon gauge drops from 9 to 8 and then again dropping from 8 to 7, according to the clip at 6:56.
Chicken Little is absolutely GOATed in the Underdrome
Genie saved my bacon during some of the Organization Data bosses and especially Lingering Will. Genie is the MVP.
I've never considered using the summons in the lingering will battle. I was also unaware that tink can save you from death.
***** After seeing your speed run of Kingdom Hearts 2.5, I saw how useful summons can be (stun locking with Peter Pan to name a use) and it helped me with Saix on critical. Even in the Final Fantasy games they're mostly ignored, but I find them more useful in KH than FF. I wish I knew how useful they were before getting almost near the end of the game, though.Thanks for the help with both the games and for these guides~
Thanks for the rundown on summons!
I can't believe that Bahamut was scrapped in the first game but Chicken Little made it into the sequel
thank you for making this video. chicken little save me a lot during the last bit of lingering sentiment and in the bonus cavern.
the thumbnail looks so epic! Also, i fell stitch is a little broken, considering you can use magic to refill you drive really fast, you can pretty much have infinite stitch with infinite magic.
great video man! what other videos do you plan on making next?
+The odd one But he does his Abilitys so often that its still broken. And his ukulele paralize enemies and leave them helples aganst Soras atacks. It even works on Organisation Members. and it spawns HP orbs. I hear in KH 2 Final Mix he his Ukulele Move every time when Soras HP go in the read area.
+Sofaris Oh gosh. I write the last comment before I watch this Video becuse I Already know all about Summons. He already has explainend the Ukulele.
Yes but often times when I use chicken little I don't usually choose him for the fact that I cannot control his FPS mode. How exactly do you control it ? My problem is I've tried everything from moving the analog stick to using the directional pad and no matter what I do I can't seem to target an enemy correctly.
You just lock on to an enemy and attack with FPS mode. But that Limit sucks anyway, you use CL and most other Summons for their other abilities
FPS Mode is designed to create an opening in bosses at the cost of 5 Drive Points, what with the instant Cancel into combos.
I found genie's wisdom form rather useful against enemies that couldn't be hurt by physical damage such as the Mad Ride (when its headlights turn on) and the Magic Phantom (when its in the air).
pls can you do a guide on how to complete the cave of remembrance on lvl 1 I'm really having a hard time to get past all of those enemies.
Just spam final form geenie's limit and you win
Nice, never knew about most of the mechanics from summons. I made the rookie mistake of spamming limits, seems like summons are more effective passively as you attack with Sora.
I used Stitch in my first playthrough of the original KH2 when i was doing the cups, as well as Peter Pan for his Neverland to rack up several points, but that was about it. I never used Chicken Little or Genie because the lack of a tutorial didnt provoke me in any way to want to use them. Now that Ive taken the time to look at speedruns i know the full extent of what ive missed and now use them pretty much all the time, abusing Stitch and Chicken Little whenever necessary.
How do you get peter pan summon?
Excellent video
How do I get the summons?
Which summon would be best to defeat lingering will?
Stitch is a common choice for Lingering Will for Summons. Peter Pan is okay too for his Auto Revive. The other two Summons probably won't do you much good though here
An interesting side effect while you are in a summon you can't go into dice/card form from failing a gamblers reaction command.
Which is a perfect way to practice mastering the gambler reaction command what I mean is if you fail the reaction command while the summons are on the battlefield you wont go into dice and card form and it's a good way to practice the gambler reaction command and Master it so you can do the gambler reaction command without failing it when grinding drive orbs to level up Master form and refill the drive gauge and when grinding money as well as when doing the reaction command when fighting luxord
Was Chicken Little really that popular to deserve a summon in this game?
What I never got was it was heavily implied summons were the remnants of souls strong enough to survive their worlds collapse, so it was cool seeing Simba again but with Peter Pan here does that mean Neverland got completely fucked?
''My friends are my power''
''that sentimental b.s again sora''
''no literally, my friends will fuck you up''
Cave of remembrance Peter revive was everything
Most times summons would not show up for my command menu.
Honestly Stitch is the most OP Summon. Once you get him in Hollow Bastion, all bosses become a cakewalk.
For some reason I can’t use summon because it’s not appearing in my options because I only have drive
KaptainKpop left on d pad
How do you activate your summons?
Press left on the command menu and pick summon
Is it known why you can't summon during Xigbar? Did the programmers just not want to let you summon in that fight, or does it cause some game breaking crash?
Jose Espinoza Nope, my assumption is they didn't want you to use Stitch to break the fight, because from my Randomizer run we learned Stitch can parry Xigbar's lasers, making the fight trivial. Either that or the game may not handle it, since that fight is known to crash sometimes
+Bizkit047 Strange I summon stich in the Xigbar fight very often.
+Sofaris Ok I take it back. I have test it after I wright this total wrong comment I just use stich so often and fore some reason I never noticed that you can not use him aganst Xigbar. I was wrong
+Jose Espinoza The main reason is that Xigbar constantly changes the room layout during his fight, so it may have been too much for the programmers to readjust summon locations when he does this.
+Jose Espinoza Xigbar suppresses your ability to summon because he has space powers
K but how do i use one? It only says drive in my commands I'm very confused
Sora Sora Left on the D pad, you can find summons, limits and party members there
I love Stitch! He helped me to beat Terra in KHIIFM!
Nice vid Biz ^~^
The Stitch summon saved my life in the Demyx fight
8:51 Screenshots from the first Kingdom Hearts!
I never let summons be an actual party member and just a glorified limit attack.
I've learnt some things today!
I found chicken little destroys all of xexions books. That and the lifesteal was quite helpful for the first half of the fight, made it essentially free
This was rlly useful
here are the summon i want to see in Kingdom Hearts 3
Madame Leota from the Haunted Mansion,
Sparky from frankenweenie,
and
Olaf from Frozen
I remember as a kid all I used was Summons, since I loved the characters and I didnt care for Drives at all.
What do I do
Technically Stitch is in the Foreground not the background
how does leveling summons work?
It's very easy, just let the summon bar drop while active.
how do i use them!? iv never used summons in 2 cause ive never seen figured out how to do it! the game dont tell you!
I mean the video explains how to use all 4 of them
I know it's old but,
Press left on the d pad
Chicken little is the best summon. He literally cancels any attack with a whistle he blows every 3 seconds.
i never used limit forms or summons in KH2
i kinda broke lexaeus using stitch once....
and i only tried because stitch brings back mp
Stitch also DESTROYS the underworld records if you are looking to platinum. Shown in video obv.
thanks for the video
I still remember when rumors of a Mickey summon were floating around and taken seriously.
i dont use summons since i keep forgetting about them 😔
The game explains mechanics as well as it explains the lore
It's funny that I knew about the auto heal and party with stitch but I never noticed the free mp.
I probably would not have gotten thru the cavern of remembrance if it wasn’t for chicken little. Thanks Zach Braff
basically genie becomes a drive form weapon
To be honest, I've never even used a summon during all my playthrough in KH2, the only times I would ever use them were in the Olympus Cup, and I only ever use Stitch or Chicken Little too. In fact, I never knew you could obtain Peter Pan in this one.
Which is the beauty of KH2. You have so many different ways to beat bosses that even without Summons (not saying they're useless), you can get by on a lot of things.
i may use peter pan in data batles
Not a bad move.
rw: very good info dude.
6:02 yo biz throwing that shade at people who only use mp to cure lol.
DutchPotato Not much reason to use magic with Oblivion and Decisive Pumpkin
Dolphinboi except for using a fuck ton of different magic and limits
Is this game really so complex that it has guides like this? Don't get me wrong i love kingdom hearts but I don't see much depth in the mechanics. Is there something I'm missing?
Play KH2FM on Critical Mode.
What are the differences? Does enemy AI change or does their damage increase?
No, but the harder difficulty makes a lot of the complex mechanics more noticeable. And yes, there is damage increase
Is there a place where I can read about the mechanics, I don't think they were explained well.
Yeah, there are a bunch of videos that go into some detail. Some off the top of my head are: "Birth by Sleep: The Turning Point," "Beyond the X Button," a lot of Biz's videos like these. Id also look up KH2 "Revenge Value"
Now i feel really bad, I never get to use summons 'cause i always wanted to use the limit to do some decent damage, genie, being the exception was the only summon i used and very few times for its power, Now I know the others can be way useful when used correctly D:
I liked Stitch the most as my summon, but during the Hades Cup run... he just never did much. I know it's RNG, but he went through multiple rounds.... just doing 1 or 2 attacks in total. I ended up having to switch to Peter Pan in order to get the necessary amount of orbs.
finally i understand summons xD