Tim Lerch- Lollar 52 and Special T comparison

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
  • Side by side comparison of the Lollar 52 and Special T pickup sets. Played Clean thru a Blues Jr on 2 Fender Custom Shop Nocasters, same amp settings all the way thru with volume and tone pots on the guitars all the way up.

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  • @TimLerchGuitar
    @TimLerchGuitar  Před 15 lety +11

    It's great to hear everyone's preference and descriptions. I prefer the 52s but the Special Ts certainly have their charms as well. It all depends on what you need to hear and how you use your gear. Thanks for your input.

  • @TimLerchGuitar
    @TimLerchGuitar  Před 10 lety +16

    I use Glendale compensated saddles and I believe they are absolutely a positive benefit for getting a tele in tune. Thanks for watching.

  • @Nickpaflas
    @Nickpaflas Před 8 lety +74

    This guy could make the worst PUPs in the world sound great.

  • @GenteelCretin
    @GenteelCretin Před 12 lety +6

    I can't express it enough how appreciative I am for this demo. Thank you.

  • @jcshirke
    @jcshirke Před 14 lety +10

    Just wanted to say thanks for doing this. I just ordered a set of '52s. Great playing, and thanks so much for taking the time to do this. Exactly what I was looking for!

  • @bulenterdem1977
    @bulenterdem1977 Před 15 lety +6

    in my humble opinion, special t set is superior. it sounds more musical and resonant, and is more sensitive to pick dynamics.
    great work, sir! congratulations!

  • @ChristopherDowning
    @ChristopherDowning Před 8 lety +51

    Both pickups have similar light winding resistance around 6.5 ohm so there are going to both sound pretty open, airy, and glassy. However the 52 is alnico 2 and the Special T is alnico 5. so the 5 is probably going to give you a bit more output and attack whereas the 52 will sound quieter. Personally I prefer the alnico 2 as I feel it's more musical and sort of compressed when you are playing. Very old school sound. most new guitars go the 5 route so you are generally going to find the alnico 2 a softer, more ringy sound and as though you are hearing the string winding more - think jangle and Rickenbacker. Personally I'd go with the alnico 2 52's which are pretty much like the pus I use (and I feel like I've been through at least a dozen different sets ups over 50 years and I'm done with changes).

    • @tonyadams6985
      @tonyadams6985 Před 8 lety +2

      +Chris Downing, engaging, informative reply. I'm looking for a classic Tele tone for a Tele (ash), that I'm putting together. Thanks.

    • @TheRycooder
      @TheRycooder Před 7 lety +1

      Excellent breakdown....!!!

    • @stevestringer7351
      @stevestringer7351 Před 7 lety +2

      Chris Downing thanks. very informative reply. you put into words exactly what I was thinking but lacked the terminology to adequately express myself.

    • @MrBallynally2
      @MrBallynally2 Před 3 lety

      I believe i can hear more harmonics w the A2, especially in the neck. And less of boomy bass one often gets w A5. Softer..

    • @MrBallynally2
      @MrBallynally2 Před 3 lety

      i mean both in this video and in my own SD A2 pros in my tele..

  • @jmclen7
    @jmclen7 Před 10 lety +11

    Man, there was a little magic happening on the combined setting with the Special Ts. I preferred the 52 Ts on the neck and bridge only settings. I guess you just need both! Love it and thank you for the wonderful videos.

  • @eddiecrutcher4766
    @eddiecrutcher4766 Před 8 lety +4

    Perfect demo Tim thank you! You are a great guitarist! Strangely I love both pick ups but it definitely helps to hear them played side by side. Its very difficult and time consuming to choose pick ups. I really like Lollars and am glad I discovered them. Now all I have to do is choose which set.

  • @esmusat
    @esmusat Před 2 lety +3

    0:58 52 Neck p.u. 1:22 Special T neck p.u. 1:58 52 both p.u.'s. 2:34 Special T both p.u's. 3:09 52 bridge 3:55 Special T bridge

  • @basildog007
    @basildog007 Před 3 lety +2

    Wow, I missed 11 years of this guy! Just subscribed a week ago.

    • @TimLerchGuitar
      @TimLerchGuitar  Před 3 lety

      It’s all still up so you can take you time browsing. Thank for the sub

  • @ChrisHarrisWaco
    @ChrisHarrisWaco Před 7 lety

    Thanks for being part of the CZcams army to help others. I ended up getting the Special T's; this was very helpful.

  • @JohannesLabusch
    @JohannesLabusch Před 9 lety +39

    Your Telecasters sound amazing, and your voice sounds like Jeff Bridges.

  • @davidreed6722
    @davidreed6722 Před 3 lety +7

    Brother, I don't think it matters what pickups YOU use. You've got godlike tone in those fingers.

  • @tonyadams6985
    @tonyadams6985 Před 8 lety +1

    Lovely sound.. This helps a lot, as I'm putting a Tele together. Long overdue, owning a Strat, L.P., White Falcon and not having a Tele is almost criminal for what is such a versatile and distinctive guitar.

  • @erictherowe
    @erictherowe Před 9 lety +7

    52 Set gets my vote for sure.

  • @jayceburns8246
    @jayceburns8246 Před 5 lety +2

    I like the 52 neck and T bridge!

    • @jayceburns8246
      @jayceburns8246 Před 5 lety

      Not sure if they would be balanced that way, though...

  • @harleykingman
    @harleykingman Před 6 lety +1

    EXCELLENT COMPARISON BETWEEN THE 2 PUPS AND UR PICKIN IS RIGHT UP THERE WITH THE BEST OF THEM !! LOVED IT !!!!!

  • @margovallen
    @margovallen Před 5 lety +3

    I love the Fender "Original '52's" on one of my Teles. Alnico-3 magnets.

  • @garyharrison8891
    @garyharrison8891 Před 4 lety +3

    I liked them both. The clarity was just slightly better with the 52s but, I loved that aggressive bite on the special T bridge, and when playing both specials at the same time. For most things I’d probably like the 52s, if was doing a Texas blues style, I think the Specials would be great.

  • @allenbieber5108
    @allenbieber5108 Před 7 lety +1

    As a luthier and having meet Jason Thanks for the comparison!

  • @maskman1980
    @maskman1980 Před 9 lety +1

    Thanks for taking the time to record and post the video!

  • @BreauxBobby
    @BreauxBobby Před 9 lety +2

    Sweet playing. Sounds great! Thanks for the demo.

  • @crazyb3fan
    @crazyb3fan Před 13 lety +4

    This was really helpful. My ears go right to the 52s and say YEAH! That's some sweet tone going there. Thanks telebasher for this throwdown of lollar tele pickups.

  • @elvisbumped
    @elvisbumped Před 9 lety +1

    I have fallen in love with the 52s. Looking forward to getting them.

  • @RootballJohnson
    @RootballJohnson Před 12 lety +4

    I have the Special T's and love, love, love them, but I'm more of a blues guy, so that colors it a bit for me. They drive really well.
    To my ears they are both amazing. Thanks Tim!

  • @2ndshiftgarage
    @2ndshiftgarage Před 9 lety +3

    I like them both...but the 52's seem to be a little more articulate to my ears. It's so hard to tell without actually playing them myself. Nice demo of both sets, and the playing is excellent.

  • @animalboy71
    @animalboy71 Před 11 lety +2

    Hi Tim:
    Thanks for the gear demo. I've decided to go Special T based on this. I love Lollars!!!
    Cheers & great playing too!

  • @weenerdoggs
    @weenerdoggs Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks! Great chops! Very tasteful and soulful!

  • @fdcentrella0069
    @fdcentrella0069 Před 9 lety +4

    Love the pickups especially the Special Ts

  • @evilsheepguitarpickups9936

    fab playing and loads of charisma. Emphasises the importance of not over-winding. great sound. Wish I could play like that........

  • @Mr.World52
    @Mr.World52 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Tim, This was very helpful…52’s for me.

  • @jackgriffith9229
    @jackgriffith9229 Před 3 lety +4

    Tim,
    Your playing tone is fantastic and I simply can’t tell if there is a sound difference or tone difference between the two guitars which I attribute to you just being a good player and having learned how to sound rather good…………!

  • @styleomatic
    @styleomatic Před 12 lety

    Thanks Tim for a very well done comparison, one of the best.
    I'm not sure why most guys feel like they have to talk for three minutes at the video intro, and continue rambling every time then change pedals, sounds, etc...

  • @johnhodge3676
    @johnhodge3676 Před 9 lety +3

    I happen to have 2 Nash Telecasters with the Specials T's that I play live in a busy country band thru a variety of amps. Your video confirms my thinking. The special T's are higher in output and drive an amp more. They are a superb choice for blues & rock and even jazz specifically with the neck pickup, and seem to have more midrange and bass punch and send an amp into breakup better/faster. The 52's like stock Tele p/u's, have more top end, brightness and twang - probably better for straight country licks than the Special T's. I love the versatility of the T's as well as the unique voice they give a Tele.

    • @AlexisGitarre
      @AlexisGitarre Před 8 lety

      +John Hodge for me the Special T is more harsh in the very top end. It has more output und seems smoother in the mids but listen closely to the very top end and harmonics, they seem more brittle.

    • @johnhodge3676
      @johnhodge3676 Před 8 lety

      +AlexisGitarre The fact we are having this conversation mean we are obsessed with tone. I am guilty. With my personal experience - not the video - I would say the top end in more "powerful" but I don't experience "brittle". Again, these p/u work best in gain situations, not clean tele twang.

  • @guitartec
    @guitartec Před 12 lety +1

    I have a Lollar 52t neck pup along with a Fralin Blues Special Hybrid. They are paired perfectly as far as output goes. I'm running them through a Acme ToneShaper in a Koa tele I just built called a Hexomorph Volcano. It's an exceptional guitar.

  • @BITESIZEJONES
    @BITESIZEJONES Před rokem +1

    The 52s have a vibe. Great pickups

  • @marcopirelli5831
    @marcopirelli5831 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks a lot for posting this helpful video.I would buy the 52 pickups,even if they both sound great.Nice playing and nice guitars,too.Happy New Year from Italy.

    • @lucianolucidi8624
      @lucianolucidi8624 Před 4 lety

      I 52 hanno più carattere per me. Suonano veramente bene.

  • @Stratman6969
    @Stratman6969 Před 5 lety +1

    What a brilliant demo, great playing as always Tim.

  • @danhope77
    @danhope77 Před 3 lety +1

    Both great, I would choose both, maybe the special T ...no sure

  • @Getyabootsoffskinny
    @Getyabootsoffskinny Před 9 lety +1

    nice teles,and nice playin too.the special t's suit my style more I think.thanks for a great demo and for helping me choose the picks up I want

  • @kimersitch
    @kimersitch Před 12 lety +1

    A man of taste and economy.

  • @vulveeta
    @vulveeta Před 6 lety

    I'm building a telecaster from a Stew Mac body and Mightie Mite neck.It is really hard to decide on the pickups.Lollars are made near me but Mojo Tone Klein and Iron Gear are in the running.Great playing Mr Lerch.

  • @TheAndyT13
    @TheAndyT13 Před 7 lety

    I picked the 52's based on all your pickup demos, so thanks for the great work!

  • @OldSethOnetooth
    @OldSethOnetooth Před 9 lety +1

    that was some lovely playing

  • @ghwhitcher
    @ghwhitcher Před 12 lety +1

    thanks so much for this video. PERFECT side by side

  • @tonejam9
    @tonejam9 Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks Tim, very helpful indeed.

  • @kj053910
    @kj053910 Před 15 lety +6

    Awesome review, I think I liked the neck Special T better, but I liked the bridge 52 better.
    I'd love to see a shootout between the '52 and the Vintage T, trying to decide between those two at the moment.

    • @natalirivero467
      @natalirivero467 Před rokem

      I thought the same but maybe because tone was all the way up, I'd like to hear the 52 on the neck with the tone roll off by a little.

  • @toolpool
    @toolpool Před 14 lety

    Thanks for putting this together. I am looking at the Vintage T, which probable sits between the two types which you demonstrated, in terms of output.

  • @loverleyjubberley
    @loverleyjubberley Před 14 lety +1

    Thats exactly what i was looking for as i'm currently considering some new pups for my tele. Many thanks for your time and effort, great playing too

  • @studiocat1
    @studiocat1 Před 14 lety +4

    Thanks so much for doing this. Very helpful, and nice playing too. Ever thought of this combo - Special T in the neck, 52 in the bridge? To my ear thats what I like, of course it totally changes the middle sound. I have a Nocaster that has been benched because the stock PU's just aren't working for me. Too dull and low output on the neck, ice pick to the ear bright on the bridge. Changing PU's may put it back in the rota.

  • @eburns-nc
    @eburns-nc Před 9 lety +1

    Great demo, thanks!

  • @woodandguitars
    @woodandguitars Před 8 lety +18

    Tim, this just really isn't a fair comparison, you could make a trash can sound just as good man!

  • @iancosgrove
    @iancosgrove Před 9 lety +7

    Great video and playing, I prefer the 52's. You sound like Jeff Bridges btw

  • @Danthehorse
    @Danthehorse Před 14 lety +3

    May I say what a fantastic demo. Two guitars the same, same amp, all the pups covered, excellent work.
    Love the 52s.... Thansk bro.

  • @mrmagic1989
    @mrmagic1989 Před 7 lety +1

    Thank you saved me so much time!

  • @sparkster65
    @sparkster65 Před rokem +1

    Special T’s for da win!!!!!

  • @jlr022159
    @jlr022159 Před 4 lety +1

    In this comparison video I gravitated towards the 52 set. I thought they had a bit more of that “spanky” quality (to borrow from a lot of common descriptive phrases), without sounding too thin. I also thought the 52 set blended well together... the middle position was amazing.

  • @Tonetwisters
    @Tonetwisters Před 4 lety +2

    Special T is not as bright as the 52. Both sound really good, but I prefer the darker tones of the Special T. Thanks.

  • @TimLerchGuitar
    @TimLerchGuitar  Před 15 lety

    Thanks Penguin, Glad you like them and I hope they are helpful.

  • @telecasterman18
    @telecasterman18 Před 10 lety

    I love that you're playing some good ole Ray Charles licks

  • @ludocipriani
    @ludocipriani Před 10 lety +2

    both sound great to me... but I guess the main part is in the hands... :-)
    Awesome playing and touch...

  • @Tahquitz
    @Tahquitz Před 12 lety

    One of the best comparison vids I've seen. Good recording and editing.

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa Před 3 lety +1

    Dude. You could give God guitar lessons.

  • @yumadapaka
    @yumadapaka Před 9 lety +3

    You're an amazing player. Both guitars sound amazing.

  • @reddsflies
    @reddsflies Před 4 lety +1

    Love your play style great demo!

  • @TimLerchGuitar
    @TimLerchGuitar  Před 14 lety +1

    @TheGradeZShow Sorry about the tendinitis, I struggle with it too. The short scale Teles that I have played have their charms especially if you like a creamier thing but they definitely don't have the snap or the chime. I'd love to be proven wrong since a shorter scale sometimes looks appealing when my hands are tired and sore. but...

  • @rogueguineapig
    @rogueguineapig Před 14 lety +3

    KILLER tone, sir! I love those 52s...unreal man, just unreal. Love the playing too! What amp are you using?

  • @CodyCEngdahl
    @CodyCEngdahl Před 13 lety +1

    Great job, thank you. For the record, I think I like the '52's.

  • @rajadaturbo
    @rajadaturbo Před 14 lety +1

    Thanks for the vídeo Tim!I've decided por the Special T set.Cheers from Brazil =D

  • @titanium667
    @titanium667 Před 6 lety

    I have 52’s in my K-Line Truxton, and I think they’re perfect!

  • @tuboqueser
    @tuboqueser Před 11 lety +2

    Amazing player

  • @eyedoc1956
    @eyedoc1956 Před 10 lety +3

    Good demo, and helpful to many. Thank you! Question: will the higher output pups cause more amp noise?

  • @TimLerchGuitar
    @TimLerchGuitar  Před 3 lety +1

    Remember to “like and subscribe” to get notified when new video are posted.

  • @Manderson263
    @Manderson263 Před 10 lety

    Great playing, sir! I think that helped me decide.

  • @STWhiting
    @STWhiting Před 12 lety +1

    These videos are so useful! Thank you :D

  • @superelectic45
    @superelectic45 Před rokem +1

    They sound lower output, but I love the warm chime of the 52's (wow this vid was from 13 years ago)

  • @Dkv534
    @Dkv534 Před 9 lety +1

    I've noticed that the Special T amplifies the wood of your guitar really well. I have one in the bridge position of my hand-built pine baritone tele (30" scale) and it sound almost acoustic. Distorts beautifully when pushing a small tube amp.

  • @ranvon
    @ranvon Před 14 lety

    Very nice...found this after ordering a set of the 52's just based on the clips at the Lollar site...this helped to validate my preference. Hoping they will make my Gatton Sig model tele shine....Many Thanks!

  • @bluesman4270
    @bluesman4270 Před 11 lety +2

    pickups are not worlds apart, people get caught up in it sometimes, and I have in the past, I choose a pickup on output, hotter for faster breakup, vintage for getting a louder clean, and its not big difference in that department either, as tone wise its minimal difference, every little helps |i guess, if their was such a big difference it would sound like another guitar, all teles tend to sound like tele's and strat's are the same, u know it's a strat a mile off, no matter what singles r in it

  • @lastfairdeal2
    @lastfairdeal2 Před 10 lety

    Great comparison. Thank you!

  • @ozzie-sk9dh
    @ozzie-sk9dh Před 4 lety +1

    Both sound more like strats than Teles to me. Still great tones. That's my perfect Tele colour.

  • @TimLerchGuitar
    @TimLerchGuitar  Před 15 lety

    Hi, I don't notice any tonal change with the Stainless Steel frets, but there is a very different feel and certainly more evenness across the board. A nice improvement actually.

  • @jingruihuang970
    @jingruihuang970 Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks mate

  • @JasonWilliams-nm4qq
    @JasonWilliams-nm4qq Před 3 lety

    Love your blues style Timothy!

  • @andremellao4882
    @andremellao4882 Před 10 lety +1

    Fantastic man. Great player !!!

  • @georgefromgreece4119
    @georgefromgreece4119 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The 52 is better, more chimey and dynamic
    It's always about these two for me, dynamics and chime/harmonics.
    No matter the genre.
    I will use different parts of the rig if I want a more modern/ aggressive sound.
    But I want the fundamentals to be musical.

  • @Xantulle
    @Xantulle Před 14 lety

    Thanks for this comparison video!
    My choice would go to the '52 lollar neck pup combined with the Special T bridge, awesome!
    I might buy a 50's Squier Classic Vibe tele soon and put these lollars in + graphtech nut, callaham bridge, CTS pots and a switchcraft jack.. that would make a killer guitar for the money!

  • @alnico68
    @alnico68 Před 15 lety +1

    Thanks Tim for the excellent review as usual.
    I dig both, maybe the 52 a bit better..seems a bit more open and more clear in the high mids, but it could be the SS frets too...would do say the SS frets are a bit brighter than standard frets ? Thanks again and keep up the great playing, always such a treat to see you play. Cheers!

  • @1mihayes
    @1mihayes Před 3 lety +1

    The special Ts sound better to me. Clearer response and sound than the 52s in my opinion.

  • @Dellis803
    @Dellis803 Před 4 lety +2

    What mic is that you’re using? Sounds nice.

  • @guitarplayntaylor91
    @guitarplayntaylor91 Před 11 lety +2

    Tasty playing man

  • @joelstauffer1950
    @joelstauffer1950 Před 6 lety +3

    It's the Lollar 52's hands-down to my ears...for what it's worth.

  • @Samuelsonfranz
    @Samuelsonfranz Před 14 lety +1

    This sounds so good! Thanks for posting! : )

  • @RyuzakInStereo
    @RyuzakInStereo Před 10 lety

    Love your playing, brother.

  • @ValiRossi
    @ValiRossi Před 13 lety

    I just built a Warmoth tele and put the Lollar special Ts in it. Awesome.

  • @mateo2006
    @mateo2006 Před 13 lety

    The Special Ts sounds a little bit more subdued and perhaps break up a little bit earlier and warmer to my ears. The 52 have a brilliance about them that I would be looking for in a tele pick-up though. I'd go for the 52s for sure according to this sound test. They got the mojo.

  • @intrsoul
    @intrsoul Před 12 lety +1

    I played a Nash the other day with Special T's (through a Divided by 13 amp no less) - it was religious. Actually wasn't thrilled with the Nash, but the pickups were astonishing. In your demo though, I think I prefer the 52's. Hmmmm

  • @macdaddyblues1
    @macdaddyblues1 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey.. that tele with the special T's used to be mine!!!!! Cant buy them now for that price, for sure.. It's nice when you can enjoy something and it doesn't depreciate!!!! Do you still have it Tim?

    • @TimLerchGuitar
      @TimLerchGuitar  Před 3 lety +2

      I sold it to a student a while ago. He still enjoys it.

  • @MOSKII58
    @MOSKII58 Před 13 lety +1

    the 52 lollars sound more like what i would want my tele to project, but i don't think there is a tremendous diff in the two sets, i guess its like you say, it depends on what ans how you are going to use them and with what other equipment..what about Lindy fralins, do you have an opinion on those pups??