I Watched Shang-Chi in 0.25x Speed and Here's What I Found
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The fact that this movie is Tony Leung’s first ever Hollywood debut blows my mind, great villain and he nailed the role as Wenwu/Mandarin
Totally
It might be his first Hollywood film, but he has 98 other projects he's starred in.
Aside from Kingsley he was probably the most veteran actor on set. The woman who played Katy's mother as well.
Also did you know they wouldn’t have time to break down everything in the theatre, meaning they would be able to break it down because they could rewind to double check their theories whilst watching on Disney+. Luckily it released on Disney+ instead of on DVD, as we’d have to wait a bit longer.
Wenwu wasn't exactly a villan. He was made to behave that way bcoz he believed his wife was trapped
Wenwu still alive
Katy's grandmother isn't delusion, it's a thing in Asian culture where we give to the dead ancestors food and money and give them a spot at the table, usually mainly during chinese new year for my family, though we usually keep the items and food after so the joke is Katy's Grandmother got items she likes that she'll keep after. The writers of the film definitely know and lived through these experiences to write such accurate and comedic scenes from a younger asian perspective.
I understand the misinterpretation as this is very nuanced, I could tell the majority of audiences wouldn't get the full meaning, makes Shang Chi a very realistic and relatable film for some asian audiences.
And I think this is why this movie is just so good.
Spot on, ancestor worship is a huge and core part of Chinese culture.
yes ancestors rituals is what actually happened there. which is a very asian culture thing to do, not only chinese. gifts in form of food etc, for the dead is one of the oldest ritual there is. and a core beliefs/religious background for many asians
as a white guy with a more then basic but limited knowledge on Asian and Chinese culture, i thought he was wrong with the delusion comment. Thanks for clearing that up.
Man, I was so ready to throw hands when I heard him describe it as that, totally disrespectful
I love how connected the MCU is. Seeing all these details like captain America getting the Medal of Honor is proof that while we’re watching them do one thing, other stuff is going on around the world at the same time. It’s not just a movie. It’s literally a whole universe that is living while we’re not seeing it
That's why I love the movies
That's the reason why I fell in love witht his cinematic universe. I grew up with Justice League, but Marvel now seems leagues better because of these brilliant movies. If only DC did the same thing, I would've been a fan of both
That’s the sole reason for which I decided not to skip a Marvel movie from now on because I don’t wanna miss out on or feel like I’m missing something while watching.
I am surprised that Steve still didn't get his medal of honor.
Also, you missed one huge detail. Right from the bus fight scene, you can see that Shang was fighting with 'closed fist' fighting style, meaning he was channeling his anger through his fighting style, as he was yet to accept his mother's death and let go of the guilt. But as we go towards the end of the film, we see that his fighting style changes to 'open hand' fighting style, because he has then accepted that his mother is not going to come back (also because his Aunt taught him the Ta Loan style of Kung fu). And in the last fight, we can see that Wenwu's facial expressions showed anger and agony, whereas Shang was looking much more calm. His character arc changed throughout the film.
Also, during the fight scene between Wenwu and Shang, we can see that Shang used the gray shockwave technique.
That is something all of us have watched and it wasn’t needed to be told in this video
This reminds me of Jet Li's The One, where Jet Li's style of fighting changes throughout the movie as well, signifying his change in attitude about the events that were happening including his wife's death
During the fight choreography between Wenwu and Shang-Chi, Wenwu tends to wear the rings whereas Shang-Chi fights with the rings floating around him. Wenwu usually has the rings return to him because his character has a harder time letting things go, and so his fighting style reflects that. Shang-Chi, on the other hand, has the rings float around him for the majority of the fight and they become multiple extensions to his own flow based fighting style. Shang-Chi tends to fight using his environment (established during the movies previous fights), so it makes sense for the rings to float around him so he can adapt and use them in a non-direct fashion.
Nice
I like this analysis a lot
Nice man, it also shows that Wenwu is traditional whereas Shang used a lot of creative ways to use the rings. Wenwu used multiple similar moves which he uses throughout the movie
It goes even further for me. Wenwu "commands" the rings. He is strictly using them to meet his ends. Shang Chi however, attempts to "harmonize", and cooperate with them in his fighting style. It indicates each of their own perspective and headspace. Wenwu is willing to use anything and everything to achieve his goals. Shang Chi uses them to accentuate his fighting style. Wenwu is much more visceral with them.
@@OhioPaulDE it complements both their characters
I love how at the end of the movie, shangchi is mixing his mother and father's fighting techniques. Compared to when he was using the rings against his father he was fighting like his mother. And he fought the huge soul sucker, he was using it like his father but with grace of his mother. Indeed a product of thos who came before him.
What makes Shang-Chi & his family more interesting is, they represent different aspects of the Yin and Yang philosophy. Wenwu represents Yin (darkness) who has a bit of Yang (his love towards Ying Li and his family). Ying Li on the other hand represents Yang (side of light since she's a dutiful guardian of Ta Lo), but I'm not sure in what aspect of her that bit of Yin represents. Shang-Chi at the end of the movie is Yin & Yang balanced (he has the good & bad of his parents as well as their powers).
To represent the blend of fighting techniques, the music blends the themes of his two parents, also.
@@wayneshobbygallery maybe Ying Li's Yin is that she abandoned her village for Wenwu
@@Rougesteelproject I love the music
@@bonzopippinpaddleopsicopolis Perhaps, since that unfortunately led to her fateful death 😅😅
Dude !
I watched this movie like 5 times in theaters, and you still managed to find out so much I haven't noticed...
Thanks, Lad ! I was looking forward to your breakdown, and you definitely didn't disappoint.
As a person from Chinese descent myself but who was born and raised in Europe, this movie hit so many points that resonate with me :
- Shang Chi is the young 1st gen Asian migrant who, pretty much like Simu, came to America (Canada for Simu) from China when he was a kid, and had to adapt to a Whole new world (probably why Aladdin's song is his favorite Karaoke song in the movie),
- Katy is the already comfortably American 3rd gen who starts the movie by being proudly carefree American in front of her friend and her mother, but later, gets her views on life challenged when she's faced with actual stakes and "authentic" traditional chinese elders wisdom (even though the movie could have delved a bit deeper on that),
- Xialin is the one who's always lived under authoritarian and mysoginistic China (metaphored by her father), and couldn't escape to a Western country, so she escaped to neighbouring Macau, which, even if it's still technically part of China, still enjoys more freedom than China (I suspect originally, that part was supposed to be in HK, which would have made much more sense, given the amount of legendary HK actors in the movie, but then... being in 2019, the massive protests and police brutality happened in HK, which didn't make production there possible anymore... thanks, China ! So Macau it is), where she could be the badass she ever wanted to be.
You could trade Macau for either HK or Taiwan, and it would have worked the same, but I guess Macau is the most visually impressive, with it's majestic skyline and its gambling environment. Putting her in a city like Shanghai was : 1 probably off-limits for Disney, and 2 thematically not compatible, since it's still very much integral part of China,
- Wen Wu is everything that represents one side of modern (and in some ways, traditional China) : Has the ultimate power (the 10 rings in the movie) and is millenia old, can't change and stuck in his old ways (he even says it himself after his wife died), greedy (he conquered everything in the world for a 1000 years), authoritative, does whatever he wants, control freak, patriarchy, doesn't give any space for arguments (and that's not really giving a bad rap to china, it really is how it is in real life, right now). He's very much the Yin (down to how his compound look, that is almost entirely black, with only one bright colored part in all of it : the wooden dragon sculpture, that seemingly comes from Ta Lo),
- Ta Lo and its people, especially the mother and the aunt, represents the "real" traditional side of China : spiritualism, altruism, family, martial arts (especially Taiji), nature, keeping in touch with their roots and their mystical side (including the mythical creatures, like the Fu dogs, phoenixs, kirins, Hulijins, and of course, the dragon)... They're basically the Yang side of China (when we first arrive in the village, it is sunny, vibrantly colored, grandiose... with the only dark spot of the village being of course the Sealed Gate).
And when Wen Wu's arrives, it corrupts everything and toned the whole village in dark gray.
So everything, every character, and even every set has meaning in this movie. The more I watch it (I've watched it 3 times, already), the more I can see it. Intentionally or not, it is a very well crafted universe, if anything a bit rushed because of its feature film format (I actually think it would have benefitted to have the luxury of a Disney+ series treatment, so we could explore and dive more deeply into all its themes and characters).
I love your analysis. Thank you for it. This is by far my favorite MCU movie, and Wenwu being my favorite character. SO much depth.
Nice breakdown
@Muhammad Amir Qawiem No worries. Time is the most precious thing in life and we all have better things to do with it anyway.
they were supposed to shoot in hk, i think, but they couldn't becuz of the protests? idk
@@poopqqq as I mentioned in my original post, it's very much a possibility
I also noticed that Shang-chi was using the rings like the dragon flying through the air while Wenwu mainly used it like a whip. Also I like how Shang-chi when he had the rings was more delicate and smooth when wenwu when he had the rings was more jagged and sharp.
After seeing this movie, the 10 rings are easily my favorite MCU weapon because of all the creative ways they can be used :)
1st!
Thanos's Gauntlet: Am I a joke to you?
@@RedHood006 lol 😂
i saw the same comment somewhere else idk where
Same
A detail I found was that according to Xialing, Wenwu didn't look at her because she reminded him of Ying Li but Ying Nan told Shang Chi that he was more like their mother. This shows that Wenwu looked at the outer apperance because Shang Chi was more like their mother from heart but Xialing was like him as she wanted to rule and her own kingdom. This is also the reason why Wenwu was fooled by the voice of the Dweller because didn't look deep enough.
That's a good detail
Holy shit. Good deal 👌
Brother you are actually right
No wonder you're the Dr Strange supreme. 🤝
YO...thats an amazing detail.....hope canadian lad sees this
6:13 "Without making it look like its forced" with that scene lol, perfect
Shang Chi has to be one of the most underrated movies I've ever watched. Such a nice job by MCU in all aspects from dialogues and story writing to peak action and VFX. Loved it!❤
I wish they have more time in the village though. I feel like they moved so fast and he mastered their fighting style in a minute. I think it was his grandma that said there was no way he was gonna be able to learn it adequately because it took years to master. I also wanted to learn more about the culture and environment because he was just so beautiful
@@tylertolzmann agreed
You missed one.
The woman fighting the Extremis soldier was a Black Widow. It’s even the same stunt actress and everything, if you watch the movies back to back you can pick her out of the group. She even has the belt buckle like Natasha and everything, she’s still wearing her full Red Room gear.
I guess some of the girls just couldn’t move on and fighting is all they know. It’s nice that they’re all amicable and friendly fights though! I didn’t notice them in the locker room fixing each other up, I was too busy trying to see where Wong and Abomination were going.
Agreed I never would of guessed to be honest
thats some next level continuity right there
It's the Abomination, not A Bomb.
@@rohithpotana356 no shit
@@rohithpotana356 dude got so titled you forgot the part of the english language called "abbreviations" lmao
You really came in here being the "uh actshually" guy over an abbreviated name 🤣🤣
Another detail, when Wenwu puched Shang chi with the three rings, you can see how the dragon scales absorbed the impact just like how vibranium does showing how strong it is. Perhaps the future avengers may use this armor with the help of Shang chi.
Shang-Chi’s staff also broke into two from the rings.
@@cyfkilla the staff is made of wood only the ends are made of scales
Would the scales work if they're not in Ta Lo?
@@LostMySauce I'm guessing they would, considering dragon scales remain dragon scales
Vibranium isn't really that rare tho
3:55 it's a bit wrong.
1. Waigong is not a name, it's mean grandpa, so does waipo which is grandmother
2. In chinese tradition, we will always leave a seat for a passed away elder relatives (usually the closest one), so it's clearly grandma is not in delusion, it's just a tradition that she's still respecting her husband. That's it.
2:51 this scene seems completely inspired by bollyhood
Waipo isn't deluded. Asians, esp more traditional Asians, would always set aside food for their dead loved ones, especially parents / siblings / kids / partners as if they're still with us. As a Filipino from a more traditional family, I can understand her not letting people sit in her late husband's seat at the table. It's not about her being unable to move on, it's about our culture of treating dead relatives as if they're still with us.
I would just like to add that this is further enforced by the fact that her late husband was once the patriarchal head of the household, and in some cultures it is rude to sit in the chair of the head of the household, because it meant you don't acknowledged their leadership.
@@yujichibana109 ah thank you! I personally did not experience that in my family but I can definitely understand where that is coming from. Good point!
But she thought her dead husband drank the liquor she left for him at his grave.
@@scorpiusbalthazar4327 that's because in our culture we believe our dead relative possess a dog or a cat to eat the food.
6:08 the irony when this dude called katy were unaware of asian culture
"Hey everyone, I'm The Canadian Lad" was so fast I thought I'm watching this video at 1.25x speed
What's your name, kid?
Ayo human spider big fan duude ❤️❤️
Gonna cry?
eyy
Look who's here
Did you notice how after Xialing, Shang Chi's sister, cleared the dragon's eye of the small monsters the dragon looked at her? Soon after she's riding the dragon! Not everyone could ride the dragon, I think it's a special honour reserved for those of dragon's blood, making Shang Chi and Xialing equals in that regard. I think she could wield the rings and control them as her mother, father and brother all have. And with her taking over the family business, I think that's a real possibility moving forward.
Shang-Chi is one of the best MCU movies so far. So damn well done, not overshadowed with pandering to a target audience, but focused on the characters and the story they have to tell. Easily one I my favorites that I'll watch over and over.
Actually, for number 8, Katy's grandma is not delusional, it's just her belief 😂 Chinese people do believe that ancestor's spirits might come to the family's house and eat together. My grandma does the same. For more than 20 years now, after my grandpa passed away, she always puts food on our family shrine every morning for him. There's even this tradition of putting food on shrine or altar, then we'll wait for a while and throw something like dice and if the dice come out in a formation that indicates the ancestors are done eating, we may eat. But if it doesn't, we'll have to wait and throw again, and so on until the ancestors "say" they're full lol kind of an old tradition, I don't think people these days do this anymore though
My family still do it but only on qing ming day though :) we are chinese-indonesian btw
@@evelynleopatria7106 heeeey another chinese indonesian here 😂
I remember it when i was a little i thought my family is weird because throwing coin while i try to ask my grandfather is he finish eating the food so i can take the fruit,my grandma laugh so bad😂
@@angieyaaa in another perspective.. belief and delusion have no huge different but we should respect it.
@@Pembahassejarah What are you talking about?
Shang, Katy and Wong singing Hotel California has to be one of the funniest things I’ve seen in phase 4
That was my fave scene lol
For me it was the guy vlogging over the bus fight
NGL It was funniest 💯
@@randam1005 his name is the "backflip guy"
That whole thing was lame as shit
Can’t wait for your Hawkeye breakdowns! I’m absolutely loving it so far and it’s refreshing to see someone that makes my favorite movie franchise come to life for me pointing things out and explaining things
I really like the part where wenwu put all the rings in just one hand to increase the power while hes punching the gate
True, The Ten Rings are so powerful tbh
Another detail i found about characters
Shang chi - mostly looks like his father but possess his mother's qualities
Xu Xialing - mostly looks like her mother but possess her father's qualities (i mean not completely but to some extent)
Xu Xialing
@@exnao4176 owk thanks edited
Honestly, this movie was a lot better then I thought it was going to be.
Pretty much! I wasn’t even waiting for it yet enjoyed every bit after all!
Same I’m happy about that.
Same tbh
@U NO WHO BATMAM!?!?!
Has probably one of the best villains
Excellent work yet again. I love your breakdown's and the way they help me appreciate the movies even more.
Man... I am back after a while,
I am so glad you have reached 1.4 M subscriber. I knew your channel when you had only few thousand subscribers, I tell my friends of how great your videos are.
😁 I am so happy for you.
10.23 I think Wenwu also realised there was no way his wife could be alive when he was caught by the dweller. He accepted it and had nothing to live for, he was really done living. Such a complex character which i really appreciate.
10:23
He lived a 1000 years life so may be
like how they turned one of Mcu’s most hated twist with Trevor and Killian into just a ruse for the real Mandarin
first reply
and people say that they gave this explanation to undo their mess when in reality it was planned from the beginning. the iron man end credit scene featured trevor admitting that there was a real mandarin somewhere.
Here's a detail that was missed. In the flashback scene to Spiderman: Homecoming when Canadian Lad was referring to the the dude blogging on the bus in Shang Chi, at 4:57 time stamp of this video, there is a older, bearded dude with an old school boombox standing next to the guy as he asks Spiderman to do a flip. That bearded guy is Kirk Thatcher who was the punk on the bus in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. You may recall during that scene James Kirk asked him to turn the music down but the punk flips him off and cranks the music. That's when Spock neck pinches him, silencing the boombox. Not only is that the same guy in Spiderman Homecoming, referenced in this Shang Chi breakdown, but he's holding the same boombox from 1986's Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. Now that's a cool detail/reference. Source: IMDB for Shang Chi.
I really love that you saw the detail of the Rings rapping by his legs. You should do it other breakdown but just with the ring fights. Also show the beginning where wenwu is fighting a old army
This series just never gets old
True
Just like wen wu
Bitch what do you mean, his channel is everything breakdowns
Just like your mom
@@suhasv263 ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
9:12
You can see that the vest made up of dragon scales protects Shang chi from getting a critical hit
It absorbs the kinetic energy like vibranium and glows in the impact area
Good eye. I was wondering how he survived that hit without any powers
@@IvanTheSaint me too, he could've died there
The best movie breakdown ever seen!! Like many other CZcamsrs did not even noticed the details in this movie like how u do!! Keep it up and can't wait eo see your hawkeye breakdowns!!!
I think when Shang Chi says , I feel sorry for her is actually foreshadowing the mishappening of breaking her laptop during the fight with razor fist
Canadian Lad:
20 min Breakdown for 3 min trailer
Also Canadian Lad:
12 min breakdown for 2 hour movie
I noticed that Shang-Chi and Xu Wenwu have different fighting styles with the rings. Wenwu always retracts the rings immediately if he tosses it while Shang-chi always let it float around. 9:45 is a perfect example of this as Shang-chi has the ring off when hes kicking him while Wenwu has it on when blocking it.
I think the rings has ownership. Shang-chi and his mother can control them (using their "air bender" fighting style) but cannot wear them because Wenwu still own them. Until Wenwu give it to Shang-chi at the end so he become the owner of the rings hence he can now wear them.
Sorry for my bad english.
This is a common trope used in martial arts films. The open palmed styles like wushu and wing chun based around fighting in a circle are used to counter closed fisted styles typically used to attack with brute force in a straight line.
@@umaroymakmak yes finally someone who knows what they're talking about, people keep saying that anyone can wear the rings, well yes but actually no
anyone can control or use the rings just like Shang chi and his mother, but they can't wear it in their arms if someone still owns the rings
Wenwu retracts the rings to keep his immortality as he was alive for thousands of years and when he takes it off for a long time it will accelerate his age by how much years he was alive.
Note this is just a theory
@@red_crownn Well considering Wenwu was over 1000 years old, even at a 1% acceleration rate that's 10 years for every year he has them off...so in the 6-7 years he had them off before his wife died he would of aged 60-70 years according to your theory...I think it's more of it just stops the aging process but then it's at a normal rate when not wearing them else he would of died of old age well before or around the time his wife was killed...
Shang-Chi's jumping with the rings also reminds me of Karl Mordo's Vaulting Boots of Valtorr in "Doctor Strange." I guess you can say that the rings are relics that hold power like in Doctor Strange. Which is a good tie in with the two movies.
I noticed how Shang-Chi and his father are alike in benign ways too:
* When Wenwu gave up his old life, he wore a jersey cut shirt. Once his wife died, he put on a sweater to cover it. Shang-Chi wears jersey cut jacket and shirts often in this movie. It shows - at least to me - that he carries the best of his father in him.
* Both of them use a friendly shrug: Wenwu after seeing the water map, Shang-Chi in the middle of his sparing lesson with his aunt.
* Both of them used a question as an argument response: "So why did your mother give you these?" "So why would you send me that postcard?" (I'm not sure I got the quote exact but you know what part of the movie I'm talking about.)
* Shang-Chi used the same movement with his arms as his dad when commanding the "kill" move with the rings: Shang-Chi did it when he gave the final blow to the Mega Soul-Sucker (lol), Wenwu did it when he attempted to attack Ying Li in the forest, and Wenwu did it on his son when they were at the Dark Gate. At this point, I think Shang-Chi just learned it from his dad.
Another one, is that when Shang's mother was fighting with Wenwu, when she gets the rings for a moment the rings turn orange, the same way when Shang chi get the rings. With them the rings are orange and with Wenwu are purple ¿why? Maybe for the connection with the Dragon spirit or power. So it make sense that look like a breath of fire in the Clip you show. Shang's mother get the rings orange and turn back to Wenwu but like a punch, but she could use the rings for her self, but she didn't want power. Ah, and the intention in the fight between the parents was a romantic dance, because there is were they fall in love, and martial arts is supposed to be a dance too.
Two Interesting Details i also noticed:
1) The Person fighting the extremist from Iron Man 3 looks a lot like a Widow( The Ones from The Black Widow film after Natasha set them free). This shows that The widows can make their own choices now, and this Widow used her abilities to make money in the Golden Daggers Club.
2) In the Final battle, Wenwu uses the rings to go under the ground beneath Shang Chi, Then suddenly changes his arm stance to bring them out of the ground and hit Shang Chi, then later when Shang Chi fights the Dweller in Darkness he uses the same arm stance to embody the Rings in the Dweller In Darkness's body, then changes his stance like his father did, and pulled the rings out of the dragon, Killing it. This shows that Shang Chi is using both of his parents skills and powers to embrace his past and make sure the future is in his control.
She is a widow, I remember watching that in a different video breaking down the movie, she has the symbol on her belt
in the credits of the movie, she is credited as a Widow
theres a lot of beautiful fight choreo continuity in this movie! not to mention that wenwu strikes shang chi with a flying kick inside of the ta lo temple, and shang chi uses it again later on against wenwu
@@bruuuuuhhhhhhh Thanks for confirming it :D Glad i was right
@@JustCallMeMikey Sorry didnt notice that haha
I think the Eternals wasn't a bad film, but it was so hyped. Shang Chi I think it wasn't so hyped but it was so an amazing film, that we expected more from Eternals
"FOR ME", eternals was better.
@@MaazShaikh-ji2fq nice emphasis for aversion of hate
Shangchi was not a good movie, rather a usual Hollywood film. With marvel unfunny jokes
@@anubischeats well they’ll always be people who don’t like it
Eternals was better.
Yoo you need so many more subs for what you are doing. Good work man 🤙
Waigong doesn't think her husband is still alive. She's keeping that food for a Day of the Dead-type thing.
Bro everyone's war costume in ta lo is full sleeve but the costume Shang chi's mother made for them will be half sleeve. May be because she already knew her children would summon the rings one day.
The fact that the souls of everyone didn't come back after the battle is actually rlly cool, just a sign that marvel's starting to break away from your cliché stereotypical super hero movie
I was expecting the souls to go back but honestly it works better if they didn’t.
To be fair they started that in phase 2 and phase 3
Yeah there is even a deleted scene where razor fists soul gets sucked. But with it being deleted he is now alive working for Shang chi’s sister.
Not really. Ending feels like they ditched all the build up between Shang Chi and his dad and their relationship with the dead mom in favor of the interdimentional dragon fight. And after watching his dad get soul sucked, he's hanging out with friends the next week talking about it like it was a kickass dnd session.
Despite using the rings at 9:12 the blow did not kill shang chi because of the suit he was wearing(given as a gift from his aunt), was made up of dragon skin which was also used to creat their armors🤗
I do believe the fighter that was fighting the extremist was a Widow.
Fun fact: the fighter healing the one in the locker room is actually a widow. From the black widow movie. If you look in the credits it says” widow”. Meaning she was actually a black widow
Another detail that i saw for myself is how during the final battle, everyone is wearing red armour, except for wenwus' army of course, and the only person who wasnt wearing red was Xialing, she was wearing grey, maybe it was foreshadowing her taking the place of her father leading the ten rings
Silver
@@Sabakryou still though, you get the point
In a movie about a dragon, magical rings, Wong, some Chinese mythos and lots of cool action...
Wen Wu turned out to be my favourite part. His slow descent into madness and delusion, his love for his wife, the ghosts of his past not leaving him alone and his morally grey final arc where he's not an all out villain but someone who lost his whole world.
How did the father turn out to be the best part of the movie seriously.
10:02 Mordo does the same in dr.strange
Here's something you missed. When Shang Chi is stepping on the rings to kick Weng wu, it's not only similar to Star lord stepping on Doctor Strange's magic rings, but in fact originally this was used by Mordo when he was training Doctor Strange and was using the magic enchanted boots, he also used the same technique when they were running around in the mirror dimension.
Omg yeah
I really want to see Mordo again.
The Vaulting Boots of Valtorr
One detail in slow speed I appreciate is the rapid yet graceful movement of the rings. Every frame is spent ensuring every ring is doing precisely what it needs to be doing. Very cool weapon/ effect combo.
Also, now I’m excited for that upgraded flashing dragon punch you pointed out on Shang Chi 2. (Would love a name from the comics if there is one)
Kamehame ha
That was him using his father's style I think
When Shang-Chi jumps off of the rings, it also resembles when Mordor from Dr.Strange used "The Vaulting Boots of Valtorr" to fight Dr.Strange during training.
Missed the part where Xialing sits like his dad on the throne and is just as good as his dad (maybe even better) in establishing secret organizations.
I almost cried when Wen Wu died, I can feel his remorse for the things that he's done. But it's too late. I wish we can see more of his adventures from the next Shang Chi films, even though flashbacks.
I'm surprised Shang Chi's training scene with his aunt didn't get any mention. They sparred in two rounds. The first time, all of Shang Chi's moves were derivatives from his father's fighting style (closed fists, linear). He used that fighting style because that's the only way he knows on how to fight up to that point.
On the second round however, after his aunt corrects his stance, his moves changed. It resembles his mother's more (open fists, more graceful).
The way he fight with his father when he was trying to break the gate was the same way his mother fought with him first time.
That fight realized his father that his wife is in his son not behind the gate..
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As a Asian, I am very happy to see more Asian superheroes added to the MCU! I can’t wait to see Shang Chi’s journey continue.
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It is very interesting like for the first time we actually see martial arts, wireworks, Jackie chan style choreography of fighting, even Brad Allan was honored in the credits!! This is what made me like the movie so much!! R.I.P Brad Allan
Brad Allan directed the stuntwork in this.
My personal favorite aspect of the movie were the dragons. The guardian was a longer and looked like a Chinese dragon-- usually depicted without wings and more snakelike in form. However the opposing "dragon" looked more like a traditional Western dragon with leathery wings!
This comment made me fall in love with the movie. Shang-Chi is just PURE PERFECTION.
Another detail you can easily spot if you pay close attention. When Wenwu uses the rings, blue lightning surges around them. Blue lightning is often depicted as someone having a cold demeanor. While in Shang-chi's case the rings glow yellow almost like the sun, and the sun is usually seen as a kind and happy personality.
The vfx of this movie were amazing. That fight with Shang and his dad looked like something straight of Dragon Ball Z. I was so hyped man. Same when Shang Chi’s mom and dad were sparring. It loooked like avatar air bender stuff 😁
Yeah, the only place they messed up was the dragon fight at the end, it was one of those "who cares if it's clear what's happening, just let it look fancy" sections that producers always force directors to add to their movies (though the final moment when Shang Chi kills the Dweller was quite cool!)
one of the things i noticed is that wenwu didnt just attack randomly when he arrived he let his army fight for him this is because he didn't wanna risk having his rings stolen he only fights with shang chi which is probably because he didn't think that shang could take his rings
I beg to differ, I believe he didn’t want to fight the village because he didn’t want to have to fight his children. It was only when shang-chi attacked wenwu that he had no choice but to fight back. Wenwu’s ultimate goal was to bring his wife back from the gate to bring his whole family back together
@@Paradoctus no the guy is right, only people from Ta Lo could beat Wenwu and he was aware of it. Whereas you said he didn't wanna fight his children but when Shang striked so did he. He imprisoned his own children and also used force against them so I think we are way past him not fighting them. Also Wenwu striked first and not Shang Chi
I thought that he didn't fight the villagers since he thought it was beneath him to waste time fighting them.
Better to let his army deal with them so that he could focus on getting his wife back.
Or.. Maybe Xu WenWu wanted to see if Shang-Chi is "Strong" enough to control or have the Ten Rings.
This is a nice video, really like how you observe small details that make the movie even better to watch.
TCL you missed one awesome continuity detail. In All Hail The King Jackson Norris says that 'the Ten Rings were officially dormant but evidence suggests that they are growing more active'. That's what exactly happened. The ten rings were dorment for a few years when Wenwu settled with his family but again became active after his wife died. Marvel never fails in continuity
Apart from clearing space for him to land, I think Wenwu striking the ground before landing is also a way for him to ease his landing as he is mortal and can bruise or probably die doing a landing from such height. Notice when he went to free the Dweller in Darkness, he still struck the rings before landing, when he could have easily landed without clearing the ground because no one was there.
It's to absorb momentum not to clear space
I noticed that too in movie and was thinking the same when he was telling about the detail
@@varunnayyar3138 well it's an oversimplification but yes 😂
@@varunnayyar3138 It's both, yes mainly to absorb momentum, and also to clear space in that war situation.
But he isn't mortal... he's been alive for centuries
Wen wu is a respectable person. I think he kind of adopted everyone. That's why the people who work for him treats him with love. You can see that in razor fist or the first assistant who bought him to the forest .although he terrorises people he know how to take them with him also ..
There was a scene where wen wu calls an old man as young man .
ya he called the guangbo the old dude from ta lo cuz wen wu lived for a long time
Razorfist is adopted son of Wenwu and Shangs brother, it is shown in 1 deleted scene
He actually says " be careful how you speak to me, young man. I've eaten more salt than you have rice." In Chinese, but they simply translated it to "I've lived ten of your lifetimes."
Such thing happened in eternals too, cuz all the eternals are thousands of years old, so everybody else is young in their perspective
7:44 about the liverpool fc thing, in iron man 3 when tony stark and rhodes first interrogated trever, he was watching a Liverpool fc football match , a small detail to missed
3:32 Waipo and Waigong are just the way Mandarin speajkers pronounce grandma and grandpa respectively lol, it was so funny to hear sb say it like a name haha
Re: The scene with Waipo foreshadowing; I didn't take it to mean she is deluded, rather it struck me as a cultural thing. Her phrasing implies she knows he's deceased, so she's not just suffering from dementia. The Chinese venerate their ancestors and deceased loved ones a lot, it's a big part of the culture. Simultaneously, Katy grew up in the US, so she doesn't have the same traditions, or at least they're not as important to her. That's why she tells her grandma to "move on" -- That is a very western idea, a very western sentiment, "moving on." I think you're wrong, and the scene is supposed to serve as representation for Chinese and Chinese-Americans whose parents or grandparents migrated. It's a scene that exists specifically for the people who'll understand it.
That's further supported by what you noticed later, about how Katy barely knows how to use chopsticks and is largely unfamiliar with Asian culture.
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Exactly. I think it really struck a chord, and captured a feeling many Americans of Asian descent feel. To a large extent, this movie is about connecting with/accepting all the parts of your heritage, even when they come from very different places, like America and Asia. It’s the development both Shang-Chi and Katy go through to some extent. And again I think it’s something that’s resonant when having multiple cultural heritages.
@@GrayCatbird1 Definitely is something that's resonant with having multiple cultural heritages! I'm not Asian-American, I'm Hispanic-American, but... it still definitely is, yeah.
@@JerkWarlord For sure. I'm Asian-American, so I guess that's why I defaulted to that... but I realize anyone who has roots both in the US and another origin would face this.
Just re-watched the movie for a third time yesterday.
This couldn't have dropped at a better time. Thanks Lad.
Damn you like it a lot
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@Alexis Salinas I finished the movie in afternoon(Indian Standard Time).This movie is so great,that I watched Avengers:Endgame on Disney Plus 2 times but for Shang-Chi, I literally watched 3 times.
I noticed that in the battle at the end of the movie the 10 rings army is dressed in full black, and the other army is full red. Meanwhile, shangchi and his sister were half black, half red dressed
Thank you the Canadian lad for giving us some knowledge about Shang chi
In the climax battle, Shang Chi's finishing move to kill the dweller in darkness involves both techniques from his mother and father.
In the fight between Shangchi and Wenwu, Wenwu sent his rings into the ground and pulling them out one by one to attack Shang Chi. Later Shangchi used the same move to kill the mega soul sucker but unlike Wenwu, Shangchi made all the rings spin to gain more power which is his mother's technique and pulledall of them out together using same action of Wenwu. Thus accepting that he is both his father and mother's son. like his aunt mentioned before that we are product of all who came before us both good and bad.
It is a great storytelling using fight scenes.
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Goddammit I knew it this was the only comment
Yeah you have to really think about the pathology of something like this? He’s a fucking nut bag
naah half these 'details' are just straight up not true or bs, only 5 we're actually somewhat important
@@liamduchene5494 lmao no
Man, I'm so impressed you caught all of this. So much attention to details here.
Just imagine 10 rings being used in a big battle
Shang chi is now in my favs list man that was so cool
I saw someone else talk about this but notice how Wenwu almost always grips/wears the rings when using them while shangchi lets them free flow all the time and the rings assist him, rather than are used by him.
Really shows the dynamic of wenwu holding on to the past and power, and shangchi moving on,learning and going with the flow
It really shows that Wenwu treats them as extension of one's body while Shang Chi treats them as parts on one's body
The action and the fights in this movie were phenomenal
Love your observations. I miss some of them! The one thing I noticed the second time watching was when we meet Trevor and Shawn and Katy are talking to him, in the mirror at one point, their arms are crossed in the mirror but not in actuality. A Great Marvel movie!!
I could be wrong, but:
In the scene where the grandma says "This is waigong's seat," I don't think she is saying that her deceased husband is called waigong.
In chinese waigong stands for grandfather, so it's saying "grandfather used to sit here"
I liked the fact that there were times you could see the rings return to the mandarin even when it wasn't necessary and would not have been questioned was just a nice example of the vfx team going that extra mile
3:45 The movie focusing so much on relationships IE spousal and parental with Shang-Chi's flashbacks back and forth between his mother and father is done so well. So you pointing this out is pretty great. The only thing i wish they did was focus on the guilt driving his father upon hearing her voice knowing she died almost from him not being present and away 'on business'
Actually he had just gone to buy groceries.
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I love how there is a difference in the aura of the rings when chang-chi and wen wu are wearing it
No:28 when you said shrink and grow i realised something you cant just choose to have the ten rings you need to be worthy remember when he said if you want these rings you need to be strong enough to carry them
Hey did you notice when "dwellers of darkness" tried to suck wan woo's Life force it couldn't until wan woo let go his rings. Shows that those rings make him IMMORTAL . Nicely done Marvel.
I just realized, "Master Khan" or Genghis Khan as you astutely pointed out the possibility of being, could also be another nod to the original Iron Man. "The bow and arrow once was the Pinnacle of Technology. It allowed the Great Genghis Khan to rule from the Pacific to the Ukraine..."
Possibly suggesting the Ten Rings take inspiration for their movement from leaders Wen Wu actually was...
when Shang chi and his father were fighting they tangle their rings like a rope then the camera points at shang chi for a few seconds and later points at his father for a few seconds. In this particular scene there is more bass to the scene where it shows shang chi but there is less bass when it shows his father. This scene indicates us that shang chi has more power than his father.
When shang chi was fighting the dweller of darkness, after he launches the ring in the creatures stomach, while in the air, he breifly rotates in the air and following the rotation of his body/arms, the rings too rotate in the creature's stomach. This means that shang chi was literally disembowling the dweller from inside before his final move.
In the moment when xialing and Shang chi exchange that look I interpreted it as a whole conversation happening in seconds. She sees her dead father and asks without words, "did you kill him?" and the look of sorrow and regret on his face let's her know his sacrifice. The subtle head nod she gave was understanding. It was such a brilliant storytelling moment for me that added so much more weight in a chaotic scene
This movie was incredible. It might be my fav movie (depending on how No Way Home turns out). The fight choreography, story, emotion, characters, everything was fantastic. Also love how it incorporated Asian culture so well while also being able to tell its own story.
I agree. I don’t know if it’s my favourite movie but it’s definitely in my top 10, maybe even top 5 favourite Marvel movies!
@@BiasedSportsFan I admit I’m slightly bias bc I’m Asian myself and the I love how it represents the different sides of Asian lives. Like Katy didn’t know much about her culture and I relate to that. Really I can use chopsticks and that’s about it, I don’t even know how to speak or understand my native language just like her.
6:17 just for that line, you have my respect. You are one of the greatest youtuber.
i literally just watched the ms marvel breakdown that you made and realised the both the golden daggers and red daggers are both from asia so there might be even more dagger groups as well
2:32 Lad: Technology of any sort doesn't work in the village
The car : Moving just fine
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He mean GPS, tech etc, probably extend to radio frequency can't work as well.
Combustion engine works fine.
My question is why don't the members of the Ten Rings bring guns, rpg, etc
A possible detail which I found is that the rings gave wenwu eternal life so if he hadn't removed them he wouldn't have died, I think he wanted to die so that he wanted to reunite with his wife and that's why he passed on the rings to Shang - Chi
That’s awesome detail bro
So in a way that moment not only shows him choosing his son over himself, but also accepting his fate and finally letting go. A fitting way to redeem himself in his final moments.
@@physitech4649 I actually thought of it watching how it should have ended Shang chi video so props to them
@@GrayCatbird1 Yea that's a great point
I noticed something about the fight between them is that he uses the rings for offense and his father uses the rings for defense every time the father brings back the rings after a blow but shang doesn't call back the rings to his arms like his father does you can kind of see the attachment like the greed for the rings from his father then from Shang
One detail that was very prominent that when the ring are not used they are of the same size but when they are been used they fit absolutely tight and their shape changes like the ring which is closest to the elbo has a very large diameter but the one closest to the parm and the smallest one.