Shrewsbury maternity scandal: 201 babies could have been saved, says report
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- “A catalogue of tragedies” - that's how the senior midwife Donna Ockenden described her review into maternity services at the Shrewsbury and Telford NHS Trust.
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After a series of delays it was published today, and shows the scale of failings in what is now the worst maternity scandal this country has ever seen.
Her team looked at the cases of 1,500 families, and found hundreds of avoidable deaths of babies and mothers.
They found a toxic culture so pervasive that even in the last few weeks, staff have been coming forward to report their concerns about patient safety.
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Not one single person involved in this absolutely terrible tragedy will lose their jobs..NOT ONE. Disgraceful .
Is the NHS systematically understaffed and underfunded?
If there isn't enough staff they tend to o this.
I'm in America and they have been
under staffing our hospitals for over 20 years!
That's why so many people died of Covid in a "First World Country"!
Under staffing.
@@noongourfainso you think babies losing their lives unnecessarily
is OK???You think mothers+fathers burying their children is OK???
You think the NHS being underfunded is an excuse to let babies die????
You should tell this to the 200+ mothers of the dead babies.
Before we blame the NHS, Doctors and Nurses we need to understand how privatisation, outsourcing and less funding have stripped the NHS of its ability to provide us with care. We have a staff shortage of over 100,000 in the NHS and the Tory government is responsible as they are trying to enforce stealth-privatisation by crippling the NHS. This story is just the tip of the iceberg, the crisis in the NHS is due to the government. The same government that spent £37 billion on the failure of the test and trace system that lined the pockets of private corporations and shareholders instead of allowing the NHS to do its job with the funding required to do so.
they should be in prison let all lose their jobs
@@razielthered If you do that, then there will be 10x the amount of deaths. You do realise they aren’t easily replaceable right? They are all we’ve got and if we lose them, it will be a very very long time before we can get those positions filled again
My heart goes out to these Mothers. The words, 'it's just one of those things', does nothing. It's a cop out. I lost my baby in 1970. I wil never forget how cruel staff were, nurses treat me like a criminal. Much worse when the doctor told me, he asked, 'Why are you crying, you can have more'. While laughing. If he thought it was a joke i failed to get it. Baby was 42 hours old when he died. Only saw him once when my husband took me ICU. Staff refused, wasn't even there when he died. I had been alone in a room for 3 days when i was told, 'They were sending me home because i was upsetting the other patients'. I was confused and bewildered, i'd never seen anyone but staff. Didn't know what my crime was. I neither smoked nor drank at that time. Before they were frowned on. Didn't even know if he was christened. My Mother assured me he would be. I know from expieriance it is gut wrenching.
So sorry to you and your husband for the loss of your son and the hideous way you were treated.I can relate to the cruel treatment by drs, although not in the same situation.Alot of these drs think they are God.Narcissist abuse seems rife in hospital settings where power over people plays a huge part and inso so attracts these types of cruel people.I hope you went on to have more children,even though the memory of your son must always remain with you.Sending love to you and all the parents of these babies.
@@clairejohnson6522 thankyou, i had 3 normal healthy births. 2 girls and a boy. My first would have been 52 now. Girls are 51 and 47. My younger son is 36, he's been in the army since he was19. My pride is my children, Grandchildren and Great Granchildren.
Jesus....there are no words. No words at all. No one should ever have to go through this.
So sorry you went through what you did! I went through something similar. No words. The medical establishment in the Western world is corrupt, has been corrupt, cover up for each other, protect themselves.....patients be damned.
I live in the USA.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang your heads in shame.
Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of people
repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide victory. There was no tears for migrant children drowning in the channel.
So why are these consultants, doctors, nurses and management not arrested for killing those babies and mothers.
Because they’re insured. At least £10K a year.
… and that’s why I took my wife to Harley street every 3 weeks for a private check up (£300!!). I filmed the ultrasound and compared it with the NHS one. I need to mention that it was a risky pregnancy of twins.
I had a feeling of EXACTLY what happened to her - placenta abrupter - and I demanded a C Section.
I wasted no time and spoke nicely with the consultant obstetrician in charge of the unit, told him what I want to happen and that all is documented and filmed and in case it isn’t detected and something will happen to my babies or wife, he’ll go bankrupt. A letter from a solicitor was accompanied.
The next morning, my wife was in the main theatre and everything went smoothly.
My son’s placenta was partially abrupted… a few more hours/a day and it would be a horror story.
@@Ron.S. wow , so what can we do to prevent this? Not sure that any of my trust left in NHS…extra private scans and solicitor? Thanks
@@lauram2456 not much I’m afraid. Only advice I can give is to keep your eyes open. Read a lot and ask the hard and right questions. You’ll know if you’re being lied to or not.
I must say though that there are some really nice NHS staff. Especially midwives. And they’re being paid the least…
@@Ron.S. thank you I will be prepared!
@@lauram2456 great. If you are pregnant (it sounds like you are…), I’m sorry if I made you worry. Let your partner do the worrying. Seriously! It’s very important to stay calm. Remember that most pregnancies aren’t risky at all.
We were one in a million. Really. Our twins were born prematurely and there was no place in the neonatal icu… we were taken to a hospital in Colchester… 3 hours drive from Hertfordshire. My wife and babies were there for a week and if she needed anything from home I’d drive six hours… plus I had to take the dog out… I slept in the car for a week 😄 that was the least of my worries. My wife had pre-eclampsia + placenta previa (placenta covers the cervix) + placental abruption… that’s very rare. And we had twins.
As a mother you will surely feel if there is anything wrong which I’m 99.999% sure there won’t be. Enjoy your newborn!
My heart goes out to all all these families. I went into Shrewsbury hospital sept 3rd 1984. I was six months pregnant and in immense pain and bleeding. I was alone and not with my husband any more. I was shoved away in a room on my own so I wouldn’t upset the other pregnant women. I was constantly shouted at by the nurses for saying I was in pain and dismissed by the doctors who said your not in labour. At one point my call alarm was taken from me. Sometime in the night I remember a kind nurse coming in to hold my hand. The next thing I remember it was obviously the next day and I had this urge to push. A cleaner came in, I later found out it was her first day on the job. She called out for another cleaner as the nurses were all busy and they began to help me give birth to my daughter who was breech. When a doctor finally came in to help I saw it was the doctor who had insisted I wasn’t in labour. I remember shouting at her saying “ I told you I was in labour and you did nothing to stop it”. She looked at me as if I was a piece of dirt. So my daughter was born at 26 weeks , Gemma. Weighing 1lb 14 ounces. I was told she was going to be transferred to Birmingham if she was still alive by the time it came. Several hrs passed. No one told me how she was, no one took me to see her. No one checked to see if I was ok. Still lay in soiled sheets. An official looking woman came to see me and I can still remember her words clearly “ was your child a wanted child because I want you to know that there’s a married couple next door who’s also had a premature baby and there is only one place available right now in Birmingham for one baby, I know your not with your husband any more. If I hadn’t stood up for myself and fought for the right for my daughter to have a chance of life then they would have been prepared to let her die. She needed to be in Birmingham as Shrewsbury didn’t have the facilities there to cope with a baby born so early. It’s been going on for years , I’m glad they’ve finally been investigated. There’s been horror stories about the maternity unit for decades . And yes my daughter got that ride to Birmingham, got her incubator and the help and care she needed. She’s a grown woman now in her thirties with children of her own. If the cleaner hadn’t found me I dread to think what could have happened to my baby any myself as I was haemorrhaging badly when they found me.
Disgraceful! I am so sorry for this! These all demand lawsuits! How can they do it for decades?
I am so sorry to have heard what you had to share.. i was born on the 21st of Sep. '84...
I honestly cannot believe this. This is one of the worst things ive ever read. How!? How can doctors and nurses treat people like this? Im just... Im speechless. Disgusted and speechless.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
there are so many failures from the NHS and zero accountability. It does nothing to say "we've done a review and you did wrong" when there are no consequences.
Who has been prosecuted??????????????????????????????????
I am sorry, but there should be a massive lawsuit on the NHS’s hands. People need to be in jail.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
One word sums it up ARROGANCE, couple that with a threatening and oppressive regime and staff end up too scared to complain. My daughter, a nurse herself, had her first child at Shrewsbury and was so horrified at the uncaring off handed attitude she experienced there that she had her second child at home. We employed a brilliant Doula who used the water pool technique. Both my grandchildren are bright, happy and healthy.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
But what about all the clapping?
the people who know, and who do not speak up, disturb me as much as the ones directly responsible. Shame on all
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
I asked the midwives and nurses why I had such painful irregular contractions with little to no breaks in them during my labor and was told “we don’t know, we can’t predict how your body reacts, we just deal with whatever happens!” - wtf.
What you mean wtf. You csnt expect them to know everything. Like they said every women's body will react to child brith different
@@jordanleigh8119 While it is true that every woman has her own experience with each birth , the things she experiences are part of the birthing experience which means the nurses will have seen those things happen countless times so if there is something that they havent seen or dont know about then that IS reason for concern and should be looked into . It certainly shouldnt just be brushed off and nor should the Mother in labor , nurses need to be comforting and reassuring in order to keep the laboring Mother calm and as stress free as possible , otherwise it can cause serious complications for the Mother or the newborn . Telling a patient you dont know what is happening but that you just "wing it " and hope you get it right is NOT the appropriate response and certainly doent instill any confidence in the nurses abilities or any calmness in the patient . If a nurse doesnt know something then they need to go find someone who does know and or a doctor . Your snarky uncaring comment is as bad as the one she was given by hospital staff . smdh
@@shari9721 look how soft you are hahaha. What do you think people done a 1000 years ago while giving. Brith nothing they just go on with it.
It hurts me so much that so many lives have been lost, it kills me. I can’t imagine the unimaginable pain and lifelong torment the parents, Mothers and families go through. I’m aspiring to be a doctor and this would honestly break me.. no apology or amount of words or condolences could ever fill the void or heal the scars in their hearts
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Give a voice to all the black women and babies who die at concerning rates for NO REASON.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
I know this will be unpopular comment but polish women often prefer going back home to give birth because there is a general mistrust of the NHS maternity procedures.
A) you get more ultrasounds scans in Poland during pregnancy.
B) If the baby is due and nothing is happening , you will be taken to hospital and probably stimulated pharmacologically.
In the UK, don't bother turning up to the hospital if the baby is not at least 2 weeks 'late'.
3. Almost half of births in Poland are delivered through cesarean. In the UK its still only 1/5.
4. One reason for it, is that in Poland all labours are supervised but an actual doctor not midwifes... Midwifes can't do cesarean naturally.
5. In Poland after labour, you will usually be kept in hospital for 2 to 3 days as a standard procedure, just to remain under supervision, both you and the baby.
In the UK you're getting kicked out the next day...
And so on, and so on.
Monies spend on the NHS are nothing without due care, right procedures and competence.
Oh and like you say, in greece, like Poland they dont risk you going over your due date. If your baby doesn't arrive by your due date they induce you. No one is a day late. I found this so bizarre as in the uk it is very normal to go over your due date. I was explaining this to doctors here and they were genuinely shocked that uk doctors can leave women days and sometimes weeks past their due date. It was an eye opener
It’s a very good comment! I subscribe to this 🙏🏻
My best friend in Kent told me about her childbirth, about 3 years ago, that was over 30 hours long and eventually led to a C-section. The way the nurses treated her a dismissed her was horrendous. The worst part was when her husband overheard the surgeons outside, preparing for her surgery, discussing who's life was more important: the mother's or the baby's and one surgeon said "if I had to choose I would absolutely let the mother go to save the child". Of course her husband saw red and went ballistic. Thankfully, a nurse who also overheard the discussion and, in my friends words, "was actually a nice one that did help me feel better" stepped in to help calm everyone down and did scold the surgeons.
She was contacted by the maternity manager and asked if she wanted to go ahead and file a complaint. I told her she should've and should've pressed charges but she said she was so exhausted by the whole ideal and just thankful to have a healthy baby girl at the end of it all that she wanted to turn all her attention to.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
I’m trying to grasp this situation because media is so vague nowadays. Is this a situation where there’s not enough staff to deliver babies or is child birth begin without proper staff or equipment needed if there’s complications or is it something else?
*their midwives not nurses, nurses generally aren’t involved in the birthing process
Not one brought to justice and left to continue what they are doing. Disgraceful!
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
What a shame for human beings we live in civilised world and this happen in England 🇬🇧 what a shame.
Civilised is a far stretch from what we are we are actually semi civilised it's currently integrating with the world if the world was civilised the gap between rich and poor wouldn't exist
Rascist comment
Happens in the USA also
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Recommendations and apologies are not good enough when a baby has Past a way Unnecessarily No amount of fake apologies and Over rehearsed statements of lessons O Well be learned will make up for the fact That it did not need to happen in the 1st place
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
There should never be fear to speak out never!
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
And that’s why I took my wife to Harley street every 3 weeks for a private check up (£300!!). I filmed the ultrasound and compared it with the NHS one. I need to mention that it was a risky pregnancy of twins.
I had a feeling of EXACTLY what happened to her - placenta abrupter - and I demanded a C Section.
I wasted no time and spoke nicely with the consultant obstetrician in charge of the unit, told him what I want to happen and that all is documented and filmed and in case it isn’t detected and something will happen to my babies or wife, he’ll go bankrupt. A letter from a solicitor was accompanied.
The next morning, my wife was in the main theatre and everything went smoothly.
My son’s placenta was partially abrupted… a few more hours/a day and it would be a horror story.
The reason? Budget. They’re taking too many gambles because they don’t have money for an extra vaginal ultrasound even!
The Tories go to The Portland hospital anyway…
Good man
@@joe44523579875 thanks. But not everyone can spend £3000 during pregnancy. And it doesn’t mean that they love they kids and wife any less I do. Incredibly sad
Well money talks doesn't it.
On another note we need health secretaries with actual healthcare background and experience.
Completely agree. It’s actually unbelievable that this is not the case, regardless of how many ‘advisers’ there are.
I beg to differ. I want high standards, not dilution due to understanding the risks.
Or compassion…
The reason for the deaths? Budget.
Drs are gambling with lives because they don’t have money for an extra vaginal ultrasound even!
The Tories go to The Portland hospital anyway…
Should the Transport Minister be a truck driver?
Should the Minister for Culture, Media & Sport be an athlete?
Should the Minister for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs be a farmer?
Shoud the Defence Minister be a soldier?
@@JonathanCheeseman The defence minister probably should have been a soldier atleast some point in his life yea, an officer probably would do alright..
I gave birth 6 weeks ago. When I had my last baby 11 years ago I suffered a heart attack. Because natural births can cause extreme stress on the heart they recommend a c section in a bigger hospital. So a larger team can look after me and my baby. I was then forced to have a natural birth. Luckily we are OK.
Wow, that's pretty brave. and 11 years between kids as well, that is one massive gap. You must be a sucker for punishment
That makes no sense..
A "natural birth "" luckily we are OK...
As one consultant said to us when my wife went into arrest following a mistake with the lumber puncture. "You are alive aren't you !! be thankful you are alive" as we watched the whole room put their heads in their hands. We had to wait nearly 2 years to know if our son was brain damaged.
@@murderersofmum3897 I would have smacked that consultant right in the face..How dare they..
And taken him+his hospital to the cleaners..Disgusting .
@@markb1487 we are here and alive. I hope that is more clear.
That is absolutly terrifying! The stuff needs to have places, where they can tell anonym
Can I just say that in the past 8 years my daughter has had 2 beautiful children at this hospital and both times have been amazing experiences...... My heart goes out to all those Moms & their families who have had such sadness & pain in their lives ❤
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
These people should be put in jail for murder
. All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
The nhs has too many heartless women as nurses! I've seen it first hand at Northwick Park hospital
The sound total bitches!
Yeah, not much gender-balance there. They need a few more heartless men.
Not nurses these are midwives
This is horrendous. Are healthcare and hospital trust heads going to roll as a result? Will there be a criminal investigation? Listen to the arrogance of the manager defending her actions on training, as if that was the holy grail. These poor parents deserve action on both fronts.
This is true and I can relate through my experience,I can never forget the day I had my second miscarriage, I was in ward and asked hospital staff member about something and she turned back and said " it's not your first time here, you been here before so you should remember where everything is". I couldn't believe how could someone be so cruel and brutal.
Being qualified shouldn't mean they get the job. If they havnt got a caring nature they shouldn't be involved in care
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Absolutely shocking! So who is taking responsibility for this? Time for some more in-depth investigation and for some heads to roll. This is dereliction of duty, which requires more than apology.
Get rid of the managers, the Matron needs to be brought back. With relevant experience, pride in good practice, and daily ward rounds to ensure the high nursing standards, staff worries, and ward cleanliness were maintained, at much less of a cost than these career managers.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
I have a sister who became a midwife, she intended to be a missionary after qualifying and undertook many years of additional training. She did an 18 month special premature baby course and 2 years at the School of Tropical Medicine. Unfortunately health problems prevented her becoming a missionary and she worked in the NHS. She became a sister and took immense pride in her vocation. She is now retired and in conversation she has said she despairs how maternity care has been so depleted, how it is now production line baby delivery delivery with avoidance of C sections which take up more resources. She has confirmed this dogged mantra of natural birth is dangerous for many mothers and their babies.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Here is some advice: If you are in any situation where you feel in your gut "things are going wrong" get a pen and paper out, or get someone to write for you, - start documenting, yes I'm serious! Start with a timeline, date and time and write down what you observe, time line of conversations, treatments or lack of, impressions, how you are treated, whatever it is that is bothering you, if you can't do it then, do it as soon as you can, this goes for any circumstance not just in a hospital setting! If there are witnesses write, get statements, if they don't want to be involved due to fears of reprisals document that too. Make a detailed report as soon as you can. Make at least 5 paper copies. File a police report. Arrange an appointment with management to report your concerns. Again document responses, action taken or not. If they are not willing to take you seriously, go higher up the totempole, go as high as you need to go, somebody will eventually listen to you! I hasten to add, I am not in my nature a complainer, but I have done this with success in a two instances in my life, when you take the time to write things down sometimes it is easier that just talking, plus people will take you more seriously especially if you are specific, file a police complaint. Reasie that if there are enough reports to all sources not just within the culture it will be looked into.
Am so sorry for the little angels. Prayers for their innocent souls and for the parents souls 😢❤️😇
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
@@DrMontague they would deserve indeed, how very shame on the conductors of The government
Gawd bless the NHS - envy of the world, dontchaknow? Let's all stand outside and applaud them....
Oh Stfu!
Understaffed, underpaid and over worked staff results in mistakes.
The focus of this news should be why some hospital staff have not trust to tell the truth
The CDC has estimated that in the USA, for every 100,000 live births, 20 women died, and 2 out of 3 of these deaths were preventable. Babies fare even worse. In 2019, the United States lost six infants per 1,000 live births. Moreover, U.S. maternal mortality numbers are nearly three times higher for Black mothers than for White mothers, and infant death rates are more than TWICE as high for Black and Native American babies as for White babies.
what's only holiday black people get confused on fathers day
The average in the UK is 3.8 deaths per year per 1,000 live births. While the Black ethnic group has had the highest infant mortality rate each year with a rate of 6.4 deaths per 1,000 live births. It truly is shocking that one group should experience such different levels of care.
@@nuttynutts2270 You are a sad strange little man, and you have my pity.
Wait so what actually happened? Like all I'm seeing is people died
A culture of natural birth at all costs even when all indicators were that a caesarean was required ( complex previous medical history or complications due labour). That ethos came from someone......
The health professionals has to do their observation and act if the situation is dangerous…. its not natural birth to leave the mother alone… homebirth is not about avoiding warning signs and go for it… but safe and supported environment.
These criminals created the term ‘natural birth’ I dont get it what they mean, but not doing their job is a crime!!!
There saying these babies "could of survivied" is that really good enough? Who is responsible for their deaths?
See this is why when I have a baby I’m going to research everything extensively...just so I know what to do when anything is happening...maybe even go private definitely won’t be giving birth in England anyway (don’t worry I know you don’t want immigrants munching off your precious NHS) this isn’t a problem only in the maternity ward, but in several other sectors of health where they simply neglect. Just imagine how much they neglect mental health when they can’t even take care of you physically.
NURSES EAT THEIR YOUNG - look this up on CZcams and you will see a whole culture of bullying in nursing. This is why those babies died, nurses bully the young ones and Dr's use the fact nurses have to double check them as a way out of their mistakes in medication, blaming the nurses instead.
Chefs have charities to help them prevent suicide because of the stress of the job, their needs to be a safe and private charity for nurses to talk to that will document their experiences with that hospital, but leave the names of the nurses out of the report due to confidentiality when it comes to these types of charities, like the Samaritans.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
@@DrMontague luckily I think their all idiots and really couldn't care which of the worst of the worst get voted in.
If you want people to be in the NHS and services then it starts with education.
Of you look at a 10 year old and treat him like an idiot, like all schools do, then you'll forget that 10 year old over 1000 years ago where considered educated by everyone in the country to lead it.
So yes if a 4 year old can learn chest compressions and know how to call 999, then everyone is intelligent enough to learn first, second and third aid to help out on the streets releasing pressures that require increases in tax.
Over 1000 years ago you're kids didn't fo to school. They stayed at home and were educated by their parents in a trade.
And those kids were expert tradesman by the time they were 15.
So unless a politicians comes along and outlines his plan to:
Increase education so that all at 16 are GCSE advanced in social system of care and health (fire, caring, life guard and so on and so on). Can show a road map to decreasing taxes and making it so only one adult out of a house HD has to work to maintain it again.
Then I dont care about people's opinions about corrupt, putrid politicians who are the worst of the worst to be in charge. Cos your all too thick to think for yourself and realise we don't need them on charge and never did.
Tribalism till I die baby
As interpreter in health settings I can confirm incredible low support for pregnant women generally in UK. Shocking...
One consultant said the managers were more concerned with activity and throughput than with safety, and caesarians were avoided regardless of circumstances of the pregnancies.
C-sections are expensive. Trusts only care about the money.
@@fuckbankers Not all Trusts, but with money pressures on them they often appoint outside managers from private industry who have little knowledge of healthcare and are mostly concerned with what they believe to be 'efficiency'. From Margaret Thatcher's time to the present, they believed outside management would be beneficial for the NHS and managers who did not achieve financial targets often didn't last long. Some medics believe in natural births and that there are too many caesarians in modern obstetrics but, and natural births are also cheaper (so nicely fitting with management ideas of efficiency) but caesarian births are sometimes necessary and taken to extremes, the natural birth view can be harmful. Lack of monitoring and lack of care in complex cases and failure to listen to mothers who know their own pregnancy history is another failure in this case.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Check Kettering general hospital, how many babies are being killed there.
Last month my sister lost her baby because of unexperienced midwive
Imagine if this is happening in West, we call it developed country? What would be the situation in the rest of the world where people don't even have facilities.
The people of the west don't give a monkey's toss about third world poverty. All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Stop the privatisation of the NHS.
Prayers and love to all the families abused by this trust! The nhs are like the mafia and gang up on anyone whi dares complain. It needs to be broken up.
Very true. Same happened when my husband died due to their negligence. The blood of many people is on their hands, many lives destroyed.
These sort of things keep happening in the NHS. The previous cases in Morecombe bay are an example but also it has echoes of dr Shipman.
I would have thought there would have been mechanisms which would trigger alarms by sheer statistics. If not, what are all these statistics for?
Right? The fact that staff are still saying that they're being pressured to keep quiet is really quite telling. Don't know why they even bother making apologies. It's disgusting.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Messed my operation up and not put it in my surgery files doing extra surgery without my consent
Afraid that the managers will still be on the job?
Terrible & very scary investigate and punish them and sack them
How many decades do they need to learn from mistakes?
Isn’t this the trust who employed a fraudster as CEO a few years back? NHS ‘Trust’ is perhaps the most inappropriate description of an organisation that is so self serving, defensive and opaque?
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
@@DrMontague I’m not sure this has any relevance to the ‘Too Posh to Push’ and ‘Bottle Feeding is Criminal’ sentiments which breached the oath of ‘Do no harm’. The fraudster was in the 2000-2005 era so Tony Blair times.
Whilst have some sympathy with your sentiment, I suspect it has more to do with the commercialisation of the NHS by all Governments where both performance and financial targets are placed above patient care and that staff follow the path of least resistance despite their knowledge of the harm they are doing.
However like Airline Pilots, medical staff are expected to be knowledgeable and confident enough to do the right thing, no matter what the pressures are and that they should stand up for their patients first and foremost. These deaths and negligent procedures were certainly known about by the medical support staff involved, despite them not doing the harm themselves. These practices should have been curtailed quickly and not allowed to become accepted practice over two decades.
All of my children were born here, and it used to be so good. I can only imagine that an NHS starved of funds is struggling. I don't condone what happened, but my feelings are that the NHS is being attacked by the government by underfunding, and attacked by tory media for anything that goes wrong. I feel American healthcare companies about to move in, and as soon as private healthcare becomes the norm, standards will drop even lower at many times the cost. Protect the NHS by demanding proper funding.
This is has been happening to woc since the very conception of the NHS.
And what did we have before the NHS? A: You got care if you had the money!
Heartbreaking
After all this time there are still significant flaws. I think the trust has shown that it’s not learning nearly enough from past mistakes and that should therefore be closed permanently.
A new trust should be built from the ground up by new and competent executives.
This Is horrendous. How much is this going to cost the NHS.
. All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
All because of what? A little bit of money. But echoes my family's experience of NHS care that if you aren't gobby or medically aware enough, terrible care is, I'm afraid, quite common in the NHS. Props to Donna Ockenden for a frank and forthright report. I suspect this story is not over....
wait so guys sorry to bother but whta exactly happened?...
Do you not listen to the News? Fcuk sake GOOGLE IT!
R.i.p sweet babies xxxx
Channel 4 always leaves the comments open sky news dont
Sky don't, you sure?
..All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Normal birth…. doesn’t mean ignore sings and act when something seems dangerous…prosecution mist follow this.
They must act, making changed great but following it up and making sure insiders can raise complaints anonymously.
Still supporting home birth but not avoiding proper observation of the pregnancy.
All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Well my placenta abrupted then epidural scrapped my bone in my spine they failed to numb my back first used the needle 5 times even tho I shouted out it hurts and shouldn't feel like this 4 year's later I'm in the worse pain with back pain and still fighting to find out what happened ...
So those that lost their jobs in management will have left with a large payoff ….
...All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
2:24 why are you talking to a mirror!?
It’s not pronounced shrosbury, it’s Shrewsbury 🙄 I’m glad this is on the news! Shrewsbury hospital needs to step up massively!
where was they ?
Is this Criminal Negligence?
Day of disgrace for my childhood hometown.
Me too
..All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
There's room at the top ...
It's SHREWSbury not SHROWSbury.
Where's the £350 Million (NHS Money) per week promised by the Brexiteers?
Once upon a past, 200 Angels came together on Mount Hermon, and made a pact to sin..
And today, we're still paying the price for that "coming" together.
God gives, and God takes.
Period.
You're a crank FULL STOP
Is not Trust, is people who did it.
Those killers should be jailed.
..All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Is it safer to have a birth overseas?
It's safer to be rich: but then that's the case everywhere and in most circumstance, not just childbirth. The USA is risky, but not so much if you are super-rich.
What happened to the victims? Nothing obvious, and the plan how to avoid it…
And the same people reporting on this and feigning outrage will be pro abortion.
Give me a break
You stupid person. Women have the right to decide for themselves. Banning legal abortion only leads to back street abortions. Do you want to imprison women who are found guilty of seeking an abortion to insure the the pregnancy is carried through?
These are two different matters!
@@FRANCESCA01234 yes. But both involve the death of children.
Why do reporters need to stand outside the hostpital? We know what one looks like , will anyone be sacked in this nhs trust? Who was in charge of checking ? We’re there no whistle blowers?
...All of those people who voted the Tories in should hang their heads in
shame. Corbyn offered to invest significantly in the NHS , the majority of
people repaid him by stabbing him in the back and giving Boris a landslide
victory. There was no tears for migrant children and their mothers who drowned in the channel. but they're not really human are they?!
Can’t believe ur all putting up with this
I can. The same fcukers who are complaining probably voted for Boris. They weren't interested in the state of the NHS only in BREXIT!
Scrap the nhs it’s broken
Shirkers in key decision making capacities.
Doctors form a fraternity who lie for one another to cover up negligence. Things like this will continue to happen until we end Medical Omerta.
They are skirting around the fact that mothers and babies died because of the dogma that childbirth should be as natural as possible, i.e run by midwives with as little medical intervention as possible. The problem with that is that it used to be normal to die in childbirth.
The other new thing is business managers taking the lead in clinical services: the business model includes competition and secrecy, as well as coming in under budget, even when nobody is making a profit. The managers engage in cut-throat competition for each others' jobs, so bullying is part of the culture. That's what happens when you run hospitals like supermarkets.
Tragic happening every where.
UK Electorate like it this way
And these are the very people we are meant to trust with telling the truth about covid 🤔🤔🤔
An anti-political uprising is taking place in Sri Lanka. Report quickly and support the people of Sri Lanka. Thank you!
Women's rights now.
Save the NHS
FUNNY DOW IS SPEAKING BRIT ENGLAND ALL THE NEWS TO DAY. HAVE OLD GIRL ADDRESS WARSAW AT ALL
Envy of the world eh?
Keep clapping
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thats what they hint any way 😂 saaave me saaave me dam cell selling hand in de stress
2 миллиона подписчиков👀👍👍 мне бы хотябы 100к 😩😩
Protect whistle-blowers
یا اللہ مجھے سپورٹ کرنے والوں کی زندگی میں ڈھیروں خوشیاں نصیب فرمائیں انہیں ہمیشہ خوش رکھنا اور مدینہ کی زیارت نصیب فرمائیں
I google translated the above; "May Allah bless me with lots of happiness in the life of those who support me, keep them happy forever and grant me a visit to Madinah"
Privatise it. No one would or should pay a care bill when the patient has a bad outcome.
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Is maternity privatised??
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Can you give me examples of what you mean?
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Then it must be even easier to explain. Can you explain?
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines No you haven't. You've made a claim and then completely failed to verify or substantiate it.
Simply saying "parts of it are which in turn affects other areas of the nhs which are underfunded greatly" doesn't prove anything - it's just you making a claim.
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines "So there"?? And you call *me* 'little one'??
You have failed to show ANY link between alledged privatisation elsewhere in the NHS and the tragedy in the maternity unit in Shrewsbury.
Simply making claims doesn't mean they're true.
All you've done so far is make claims without showing any evidence of how they are true.
In my opinion, people should think twice before dropping their knickers
Some people breeeding faster than ever. UK used to be Christian, now most of the government and opposition parties are zionists
@@stoufer2000 The British race, being destroyed by the NHS, who are DETERMINED to wreck our genetic pool and strangle our public purse to death with non-viables. All that hard work by Victorian judges transporting criminals to genetically cleanse use: all gone to waste. I'm just sorry for the aborigines who've had to suffer bitterly from that.
okay ian with 1 olevel in woodworking that'll really make these families feel better
@@mdrocks7842 probably hasn't even got that
@@mdrocks7842 worthless, burdonsome, knicker dropping families. Deport.