The Ultimate Sheet Metal Panel Gap guide in Car Restorations. 1973 Challenger video 9

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • In this video I go over panel gapping in Muscle cars and classics using aftermarket sheet metal, trying to make them nicer and cleaner then factory. I show the different tools and techniques used to fine tune a restoration in the metal phase before the body work is started. In this video we feature a Cuda and Challenger but these tips should work on any muscle car restoration project you are working on.
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Komentáře • 78

  • @damianporter7114
    @damianporter7114 Před 3 měsíci +2

    It is over the top and detailed very beautifully. My ignorance past over your video because it wasn't a Chevelle video. I maybe wrong but I don't see videos like yours I subscribed today and will be watching all of them and repeat. On the charger video that customer had no idea what you were doing or couldn't understand your service and professionalism. I appreciate you sharing with us. What a gift!

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you very much for the kind words. With the Charger I agree looking back I don't think he understood but also didn't want to understand. The car was too much for what he thought it was going to be and its a bad situation to be stuck in. I really hope he has got it figured out and almost to the level he wants it at. Also a Chevelle is a car I have been waiting to try and get on the channel, so hopefully one day I can build on on this youtube channel like the other cars I have been working on.

  • @user-ip7be9mc2z
    @user-ip7be9mc2z Před 7 měsíci +3

    I gotta love it. "Over restoring" the cars. Your dedication to your craft is amazing and it shows in the quality of the final product. I prefer an over restored car any day vs something that "looks about right ". Another quality video that I didn't have to pay for. Awesome stuff Rick.

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you very much, yea most people I know like that over restored car.

  • @glassglowz
    @glassglowz Před 7 měsíci +1

    Another excellent video with great tips. Man, I'm not looking forward to performing this job on my Challenger. I already know the trunk and door gaps are way off. Take care!

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks a lot same to you, Good luck with your build take your time and it will work out.

  • @plantpoweredhealth9383
    @plantpoweredhealth9383 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What a great video! About to paint my brothers 70 Cuda over here in Australia. Got the usual story of its ready for paint and was previously painted black before he did some rust repairs and got an engine rebuild. Well I ran my spline blocks over it, its absolutely rubbish. One side is not too bad, but passenger side guard and door gap and profile is terrible. Your videos will help so much on this current resto in doing. Cheers

  • @mrpurcountry
    @mrpurcountry Před 7 měsíci +3

    Nice work Rick always a pleasure to watch.

  • @darrenh.3514
    @darrenh.3514 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Excellent video, you are a great teacher!

  • @junkyarddawgfixit8970
    @junkyarddawgfixit8970 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great video here, lots of time spent fixing what the stamping plant engineers should have got right, or better, to begin with but who knows, maybe they aren't getting paid enough to care or to make it right. What is most concerning about having to slice and weld the panels in the "optimizing" process is knowing that adequate corrosion protection can be applied and reach some of the concealed and hard to reach areas on the inside. Keep rolling.....

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot, I do actually agree with you 100%, but the lesser of two evils is the gap to be clean looking. You can also apply that same logic to each time you MIG two panels in the spot holes you will burn the weld through primer off in certain areas. The idea is do the best we can given our guidelines and hope the cars are well taken care of and last the life of the owners and then some.

  • @RestoHubAU
    @RestoHubAU Před 7 měsíci +3

    Top video. Gap work looked good.
    Thanks for sharing 😎👌

  • @NDB390
    @NDB390 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Can’t wait for the next video.

  • @raymondw7875
    @raymondw7875 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great video! When I was opening up the gap using a 3 inch rollock I found it best to use it with a 2 inch pad. When I tried using a 3 inch rollock with 3 inch pad, the pad kept getting caught in the gap and grabbing.

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci

      That is great advice I will try it as your right every now and then they catch an edge for sure and eats them up.

  • @curtsgarage4009
    @curtsgarage4009 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Nice work, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @salc1300
    @salc1300 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thanks for sharing the knowledge. Appreciate that you answer my questions. Sal

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci

      You are welcome. Thank you so much for the support it really means a lot.

  • @neilpickett7534
    @neilpickett7534 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Very good information Rick! I’ll definitely get my car much nicer with this information!

  • @tonytavolieri1663
    @tonytavolieri1663 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I found your channel days ago and have binge watched most of the E- body content. Your channel is very professional and your work is top notch! The filming is good and the attention to details is hard to find these days! In " my opinion " the only thing missing in your videos is a laugh or a smile now and then! You are very passionate about your "job" which is hard to find these days

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks a lot I really appreciate it. Honestly I am introverted and the camera stuff even after all this time is still challenging and I don't feel as connected to the camera as I would with someone I am comfortable around. I will try and work on it but if you ask most of the car guys I work with there is lots of sarcastic banter and tons of laughs in person, when working together and I know I am not on camera. Also to be honest there also might be the occasional yelling at the car once in a blue moon I also leave out. .....haha

    • @tonytavolieri1663
      @tonytavolieri1663 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Lol it's just my opinion. Relax and have fun . Nobody can question your work !

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@tonytavolieri1663Ill try and work on that thanks for watching and the honest feedback

  • @tracycolorado
    @tracycolorado Před 7 měsíci +2

    Dig it . FYI , the handle on the Eastwood Crt should be facing forward towards the drum , for easier stripping, better control and less body fatigue . Lots of people including me did the same thing. 😢

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot! I will swap it out and try it. Its probably in the directions when you get the tool but they go right in the trash without me even looking at them....lol

  • @charlesnick5292
    @charlesnick5292 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Awesome work!!! Those cars will look incredible with paint.

  • @SubdivisionAuto
    @SubdivisionAuto Před 7 měsíci +1

    Im always amazed how poorly some of these aftermarket parts fit. These videos are invaluable (Even if people are fixing other cars) because it really shows you "reality" and at the same time what you can do. This really isnt just restoration anymore, heck it's not even just car building... it's literally art. Very cool video Rick you are the best my friend. Congrats on the 10k subs man you hit the first big milestone 🤟!

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks a lot Max and wow I didn't even see the subscription account number until you just said that, you really made my day! Looking forward to the next Nova build from your channel! I got a Nova coming in the shop really soon so if you run into issues and need some measurements let me know. Have a good one.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah man awesome accomplishment congrats takes a hell of a lot of work. Thats awesome you got one coming up, Im getting back to work on mine ina month just need to finish a month worth of editing. Had the latest nova video come out this morning, its a rough one was a battle for a newbie like me but its "done". Probably will get destroyed in the comments for that one. Thanks again will keep this in mind. @@carthageclassiccars

  • @JohnBarr-ys9zl
    @JohnBarr-ys9zl Před 7 měsíci +1

    Another great video Rick! Really enjoyed this one and lots of tips I’ll put in my arsenal.

  • @TheLooper0
    @TheLooper0 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great work as usual, still waiting and looking forward to your part 3 of the bodywork video, will that be out soon? Thanks.

  • @alexanderdhendricks4299
    @alexanderdhendricks4299 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Rick is the master!

  • @mback12000
    @mback12000 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great video. And thanks for no ridiculous blasting music.

  • @user-hi2ev7ug4l
    @user-hi2ev7ug4l Před 7 měsíci +1

    Excellent information thank you great content....thank you.

  • @vanvroll564
    @vanvroll564 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great info thank you!

  • @garylietz6305
    @garylietz6305 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great tutorial.

  • @johnlindsay6039
    @johnlindsay6039 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wow, this is timely for me! Awesome tutorial, Rick! I’m at this stage in the rotisserie build of my project. Aligning these panels is a bear and very time consuming, especially if one is doing it by themselves. Anyway, all this will be pulled off to be painted and my concern is getting it all back aligned again without damaging the newly applied paint. I scratched a lot of epoxy primer doing this, thus the concern. Thoughts on pinning panels for quick reassembly? Do you do any of that in your builds? Also, methods for putting panels on without damaging paint would make for a great tutorial. Thanks so much, Rick!!!

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot for watching and commenting. Installing the painted panels I use lots of tape on the corners...but not the really sticky kind the worse tape out there just to play it safe. Also Yes I will a lot of times use panel pins on trunks and hood hinges. Drill them out where the bolt will hide them if you go that route. The reason I don't use them on the doors is a lot of times I will do final adjustments and they sometimes never line up perfect. I would also sometimes pin the in and out profile but not the back and forth on the hinges. Good luck I know the stress of installing them with paint on the panels and it is challenging.

  • @prometheus6853
    @prometheus6853 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Any way you can make a video of you MIG welding? I know there’s a video of you TIG welding but it’ll be cool to see you MIG welding.

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 3 měsíci

      Once I get some free time I was looking into some ideas on doing a MIG video but wanted to do it live with Q and A in the process but I need to figure out on some live stream stuff first. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @jimdrechsel3611
    @jimdrechsel3611 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great information. Packed with details.
    How do you know what the proper spacing is for the rear window in the quarter panels? Won’t that change the door alignment? The bottom of the door lines up with the rocker but the top corners need to be spaced properly for the vent window, weather stripping and top of the rear quarter. Do you take measurements before? I noticed you don’t have window tracks installed. Have you ever had issues with the quarter panel window gaps? Thanks for really paying attention to detail.

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 6 měsíci

      The rear vent windows have plenty of adjustments in them I haven't had an issue yet with that. Same thing with the weather stripping its usually thick enough an 1/8 here and there won't bother it. I mean the door jam sets the front gap and the quarter runs the rest of the gap to the rear b pillar

  • @67fairlane12
    @67fairlane12 Před 29 dny +1

    Your videos are fantastic! great instruction. Question; im building a 67 Fairlane. Is it ok to install the subframe connectors without all the other weight in the car. right now my car is in the same stage as this one when this video was shot.

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 29 dny +1

      You can install the subframe connectors but I would suggest if it is not on a frame JIG you put the suspension on the car. Make sure all your gaps look good before you weld it up and there are no issues as I have seen some run into issues not having all the panels on it.

  • @ty3095
    @ty3095 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hello everyone

  • @Hhbdr
    @Hhbdr Před 2 měsíci +1

    Just keep workin on Mopars. Specifically E bodies. We'll keep watchin'.

  • @scotthayward4878
    @scotthayward4878 Před 6 měsíci +1

    12:09

  • @akht5143
    @akht5143 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hi

  • @gregthumma8665
    @gregthumma8665 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Do you what to fix z28 body

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 5 měsíci

      You are welcome to email me at carthageclassiccars@gmail.com with a little bit of info about it and we can discuss offline.

  • @delorean-mm6sk
    @delorean-mm6sk Před 7 měsíci +1

    great work but why waste time on a 73..

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you and with a 73 not everyone has the same opinion and for different reasons like this car just as much as others with "higher desired car" in their eyes.

  • @steveash9831
    @steveash9831 Před 7 měsíci +1

    GEESIO! When I go to car shows I spend hours looking at the gaps of all the cars to make sure they are all perfect! Shame on those Hemi cars with factory gaps that are not perfect! Obsessing over perfect gaps is stupid! Let's all pay restoration shops thousands of extra dollars to change the gaps by a 1/16 of an inch! And don't forget to tuck your ears inside your flat bill ball caps, all you members of the worldwide sheep society! DUH!

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I guess good thing this car isn't built for you or too impress you for sure. Its built for what the owners want and how they want to present them. You can build your car to the quality you want 100% and if its off and not perfect its none of my business. Haha the flat bill ball cap portion of the comment shows you have even less of a clue what's going on.

  • @SixBarrel
    @SixBarrel Před 7 měsíci +1

    Awesome job like always , that Challenger is better Made since leave the factory 🍺 , and all rust buckets that you Fix , dont see a " Easy Fix" here , you take the Challenge for leave this cars in the perfect way , a lot of passion for Made the job Right , cherrs Man 🍻

    • @carthageclassiccars
      @carthageclassiccars  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thank you so much that is really nice to say. I do really love these cars and most of the building aspects of them.

  • @johnnyfeher3412
    @johnnyfeher3412 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Awesome tutorial!....