I had forgotten about the verse, I had always thought it was strange when some churches allow speaking in tongues in the front of the church, with no interpreter, and now I know there is a Biblical basis for having someone present to interpret the speaking in tongues. I Corinthians 14:28 "But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God."
Nate, I don’t even think speaking in tongues, miracles, healing, and etc are for today anyway. They were sign gifts. -Moses was given miracles to authenticate his ministry before pharaoh -Elijah was given miracles to authenticate his ministry before Ahab. -The Apostles were given miracles to authenticate their authority before Israel. Acts 4:10, 16 The gift of tongues was a sign to unbelieving Israel that salvation was available to other nations. 1 Corinthians 14:21-22 Tongues miracles and healing were not meant to edify believers. They were meant for unbelievers. They were meant to indicate apostleship/authority.
@@blue5gd it's not about what you think, but about what God thinks😉 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord . For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isaiah 55:8-9 ESV
@Karla Molina of course. You’re absolutely correct. People have done deeper explanations on tongues and miracles, but if miracles/healing still exists today, I don’t know why we don’t see people going in hospitals healing people. Tongues do not edify the church unless there is an interpreter and we are told to seek prophecy over tongues.
Amazing video. Preparing to teach this to the Youth group at my Church and these points that were made give me an awesome and Biblical canvas to lay out this message. God bless this ministry that is still bearing fruit for the Lord!
I have heard many incidents where some have spoken an unknown tongue to the speaker but there was others around who understood the language which in some cases was an ancient language that very few knew. I have in personal prayer remembered a name that I had never heard before found later that it was Jesus' name that Muslims use. Ultimately, our Heavenly Father wants to encourage and exhort His children which should be in the forefront of the minds of His Church.
The name given to the 60-70’s Revival was, “The Jesus Movement” not Tongues. Second, the greatest emphasis was “Fruit of the Spirit, not gifts. Third, the Trinity was emphasized for the first time in my life. Fourth, Dr. Storm’s view was the norm by teachers, not novices. Fifth, we saw many lives deeply transformed and healed. Do it again Lord!
Rarely, if ever, do we hear about the abuses of those who do not believe in or practice the Gifts of the Spirit. If one teaches that all gifts of the Spirit have ceased and denigrates those who believe that is not the case then why is that not called abusive? I have found over the last 45 years that many times what we call abuse is nothing more than an affront to our pride and makes us feel uncomfortable because we are so bound up in religion.
no one admits all the gifts have ceased, not even the most ardent cessationists they believe that tongues and prophecy have ceased, you are misrepresenting people which is bearing false witness
@Even2TheEnd Colossians 2:16"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
Its more as the Scripture declare "But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills." It is bestowed upon by the Spirit. Not as my friend says a decision. Its not something me and you "decide" . The Spirit bestows it upon you.
I dont think so. the sabbath has nothing to do with tongues. there are many godly people in the pentacostal movement maybe not the wisest or fine tuned in theology . but my brothers and sisters.
Listen at 13:43 where he takes 4 words from 1 Cor 12 ..."different kinds of tongues" (also translated "languages") . A second later he veers straight out of scripture into massive speculation. What would make anyone assume those 4 words mean incoherent babbling that any non-believer could mimic?
yeah if you look at the Greek, Paul writes " γένη (genē) γλωσσῶν, (glōssōn) meaning various kinds(gene) of tongues/languages(glosson) in 1 Corinthians 14:10 paul uses the same word γένη (genē) when he says "there are many kinds of languages in the world, none without meaning
Your Faith. God is the param atma, the concious mind of the universe and beyond. The WORD of God is in God and is God. The Spirit of God is in God and is God. The Word and Spirit of God can be with God and it can go to perform the bidding of God. Hence God is the param atma with His Word and Spirit. This is known as the Trinity. An example of the sun will clarify this aspect. The sun has two other elements viz. Heat and light. The heat of the sun its light and the sun is not three sun but one sun, like the Word of God and Spirit of God and God is one God. The heat and light of the sun, is in the sun and yet at the same time can be on earth or any other place. Similarly the Word and Spirit of God is with God and at the same time manifest anywhere, but all these make only one God. The three persons in one God forms God like the three sides of a triangle. Even if one side is missing it cannot be called a triangle. These are simple examples for understanding and cannot be considered otherwise. God created the universe, the angles and all other creation including human beings. The angles and human being have the spirit of God, which is also referred as the soul. The angels and human beings have a free will. Even to disobey God. The law says disobedience to God's command is sin and the punishment for sin is death. Lucifer and some of his angles revolted against God, when God made man the steward of creation. God threw Satan and his fallen angels on to the earth where they rule now. Satan swore to destroy man, Gods favorite creation and for this he tempted Adam and Eve and caused them to sin. They disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge. Adam and eve were also thrown into this world, where satan was already shunted from heaven. Result of their disobedience was death of body and soul. Law was same for humans and for Satan and his followers. However Satan revolted against God by his own free will, fully knowing the consequences and was not tricked by anyone but Adam and Eve were tricked by Satan. God therefore in His wisdom promised a MASSIAH to save human beings from this punishment. Since human beings had disobeyed God, humans must face the judgment and punishment. One man who is sinless and a human being, can die to redeem all humankind. He would be the Messiah. Since God had promised this messiah, God had to provide. In order to have such a person, the Word of God, which is God, had to incarnate as a human being, because only a human being's death, can fulfill the law and redeem humankind from the punishment of the law. Two thousand years ago, the word of God became man. The man was born to a virgin woman, by the overshadowing of the holy spirit of God, who is also God, third person from the Trinity. Jesus was therefore perfect God and perfect man. Since Jesus was born of the spirit. Jesus became the son of God as He was begotten by God. The word of God took the title of Son of God, as a human being. Jesus was God because He is the Word incarnate and also human Son of God, because he was son of Mary, a human being. Therefore He was a perfect and sinlesshuman being. Once this is clear, you will have no confusion of the divinity of Jesus. During the lifetime of jesus He projected Himself both as man with human qualities and as God, revealing divine qualities. Both these personalities are distinct and can be projected according to the circumstances. That is why Jesus claim divinity with God, because of Word of God in Him and at other times jesus projected Himself as human, who is totally dependent on God. The sayings of Jesus must be seen in this light, as to who is speaking and the context, or else we will misunderstand the Bible. you will see both the human and divine aspect clearly. For example jesus was tempted by the devil, Mathew chapter 4 verses 1 to 11., jesus felt hungry and thirsty. It was the human Jesus, who was tempted and not the divine Jesus. Human jesus had fear of death, as we see His prayers in the garden of Gethsemane. Jesus knew He would be forsaken, as jesus the word of God, being God could not die. Gospel of Mark chapter 14 verses 32 onwards. Jesus the human being was destined to be crucified. Hence jesus the God had to forsake the human jesus, to go for crucifixion as a human jesus. That is why we hear jesus crying out from the cross to God, asking why he was forsaken. Gospel of Mark chapter 15 verses 33 onwards.p God knows that jesus the human must pay the price to liberate mankind. Alternatively we see the divine nature of Jesus. His miracles, especiallythe healing of the paralytic man ,Mathew chapter 9 verses one onwards. Here Jesus says, take heart my son, your sins are forgiven. Only God can forgive sin. By this act of forgiving sin Jesus show His divinity. It is the Word of God in Jesus that was speaking. Jesus had said I and the Father are one. Here Jesus the divine Word of God is speaking. Similarly when Jesus said if you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Here too Jesus the Word incarnate is speaking because the Word of God and the Spirit of God is one with the Father God. Further the act of Jesus cleansing the temple Mathew chapter 21 verses 12 onwards. The turning of tables of money changers in Jerusalem temple. Chasing the traders of doves and other sacrificial animals would under normal circumstances be a sin, If jesus the human had done this. It would be sinful of beating and destroying property of others. Similarly Jesus calls the phrases a brood of vipers hippocrites. These would be sinful for human Jesus, but these acts are not sinful, for Jesus the Word of God who has the authority to punish. So the distinction is clear, of God Jesus, as God Jesus can do all these acts but human Jesus doing them would be sinful. The God Jesus was all powerful. We see that nature and its law obeying God Jesus, tells us about His divinity ,being the Word of God. The separate identity of Jesus the Word of God and human Jesus is clear although both the divine and human are in one body. However, the human Jesus was forsaken by the Word of God, when He was arrested in the garden of Gethsemane. John chapter 18 verses 4 onwards. The Word of God distanced from human Jesus. It was the human jesus who was to be crucified and die for all mankind to fulfill the Law and the judgment, thereby redeeming all mankind. When Jesus said I am He the people who came to arrest Jesus drew back and fell to the ground. From that point onwards Jesus the human being went as human for the crucifixion. When that mission was over, God the Father shifted Himself from being a judge, to again being the Father, as the Law was fulfilled. He once again became Father to Adam and eve and their descendents. After jesus died, the Word of God again entered into the lifeless body of jesus and resurrected Him. Jesus regained His divinity as the Word of God is now once again is in Him. Jesus then regained paradise, went to hades to liberate the souls there and on the third day appeared on the earth. When jesus was on this earth before His death, his divinity and humanity could be split, but after the resurrection His humanity is merged for ever in the Divinity . Therefore jesus is God because of the Word of God is in Him. He still has His human nature and that's why He is seated at the right hand of the Father. That is why Jesus the human is prophet, priest and king. After the death of Jesus on the cross the Law being fulfilled, the judging God became Father God and Jesus became God's Son, two thousand years ago, when God bigotened Him. Jesus was God because He is the incarnated Word, when He was upon the earth. The Word of God is NOW know as the Son of God. That is why Christians belive the Father, Son and the Holy spirit is the Trinity, which earlier was known as Father, Word of God and Holy SpiritofGod. This divine human jesus will come again soon, to judge the world and then rule over His kingdom for thousand year. You must believe that Jesus is your redeemer and live by His command, only then, you will not have to go through the judgment route, all other people, will have to go through judgment. Now is the time to make your decision. Do you want to be saved by the grace of Jesus, which He has gained by His obedience to the Fathers command to die on the cross for all humanity. All mankind is saved. The condition is to accept Jesus as your Savior and to live by His teachings. If you fulfill both these conditions then you will not be judged but is saved by Jesus or you choose the judgment route, where you will have to answer for your life. If your life is blameless then you may receive the mercy of God and get everlasting life in God's kingdom. Why wait for judgment, it is wiser to be saved by Jesus when we are on earth and avoid judgment. The choice is ours. This interpretation will answer all questions. Can God incarnate as human. The answer is yes. The Word of God incarnated as a human jesus. However human cannot be God. That is why Jesus is perfect God and perfect mam. How Jesus is God, because Jesus is the incarnation of the Word of God, who is God, the second person of trinity. How jesus is the son of God, because God has begotten Jesus through Mary, two thousand years ago. as a human jesus, who as man must die for the sins of all mankind. This proves Jesus the man died not as God because God cannot die. Jesus is now in heaven after His resurrection and is God because He is now the Word of God. The human jesus is seated at the right hand of God as prophet, priest and king. You cannot now have a split, of the personality of jesus, as divinity is merged in the humanity of Jesus. That is why we now say the Trinity as Father, Son and the Holy spirit. Three persons in ONE God George Varghese
I have a question how do I know for sure that I am indeed speaking in angelic tongues and not being deceived by my imagination, what is the standard parameter by which one says "this is an angelic tongue and this other thing isn't" ?
Carlos what I do is not initiate speaking in tounges. I only partake when moved. From there on, hopefully to be affirmed by inner peace or outer results. God Bless you my friend. Good luck.
The gift of tongues is not an angelic language. In the Bible days, it was used to spread the gospel to people who did not speak the same language. There is a reason for the gifts that God empowered the people with, and speaking in angelic utterances would help nobody. We read that speaking in tongues is for the unbeliever, not as a personal language between the believer and God.
We had a case in our church ,one of our brother who was speaking in tongues ,the brother didn't initiate it neither know was it not from the Holy spirit but as days past ,one day we hard a great church service and it came to our understand that the brother was possessed by demons and those tongues were by the demons but he didn't know all the time till this day. But the gift of tongues is very real and true brother but let it be it's from God. Read your bible and prayer.
All well and good to debate if the Bible says sign gifts continue. The more interesting question is...has anyone seen any? There are a billion Christians on the planet. Where is there 1 man manifesting any of the gifts in the manner done in scripture? Tongues are known languages in the Bible. Healings are observable and verifiable. Prophecy is clear and always accurate. We see nothing approaching this today. What we see today is largely acting, performing, and role playing motivated on a specteun ranging from innocent naiveté to blatant, calculated deception. I am very skeptical that supernatural gifts from the Creator would manifest in ways so weak and dilute that their veracity could be disputed mucb less easily replicated by any non-believer.
You’re wrong... I spoke in tongues the night I repented with tears after Fastin’ on & off for Three months about my Baptism. Plus the true understandin’ of certain Scriptures. I had never spoken in that Language before in my life! (As a matter of fact...prior to that I had a problem with Folks who spoke in unknown Tongues) Not any more. And I can assure y’all of one thang. It was not a conscious decision. The pouring out of the Holy Ghost actually scared the hell plumb outta me! What a powerful gift!
@meinaim It is, in my opinion, a tremendous abuse for pastors to say, "Start doing this with your mouth, lips, and that's how it works." I think that has done tremendous damage. Scripture is clear that not all will have this gift. I received the gift about 20 years ago, and it was during a prayer meeting. A group of guys in our church all became deeply convicted after an evening Bible study that was taught on purity. It turned into 3 nights of prayer. Numbers started to dwindle after the first night, but it kept going for the next couple of days. However, on night #2, I received the gift as I was praying, in deep brokenness, for a dear friend of mine. I had searched the Scriptures tirelessly in prior years out of curiosity, with the desire of just wanting everything that the Lord wanted me to have. However, when I received this gift, tongues was the furthest thing from my mind. I probably hadn't thought about it in 6 months. It just happened. I cringe when I see it abused in churches all over the globe. And the Apostle Paul put this gift fairly low on the totem pole. It's not something to flaunt. All gifts are to be used for the edification of the body. In fact, there are people who have known me for 20 years who don't know I have the gift, and that's because I don't flaunt it, and I've never known anybody who has the gift of interpretation. That, to me, is the greatest mystery. So, I use it (in a Biblical way) as mentioned when no interpreter is present. If some of the gifts have ceased, perhaps the gift of interpretation has? In all my years in the church, I've not met one person who has that particular gift. I even find myself praying for that gift, too. Some of my favorite Bible scholars and expositors are cessationists. So, I usually look to other teachers when it comes to those passages. It's an experience. I've experienced it. And I do see it in Scripture. With that said, I still don't think I've ever seen the gift used in a Biblical way within a congregational setting. Seek the Lord, my friends, but don't seek Him for what He has. Seek Him for who He IS, and you'll receive what you need, when you need it. And test everything by the written Word of God. The only way one can do that, is by living in the God-breathed Book He's given us. Godspeed.
+m1gogreen, no friend, no one can confess that JESUS Is LORD without The HOLY SPIRIT prompting them. What you are advocating is called synergism. Christians are Monergists. Salvation is of The LORD, not you and then The LORD, or even you and The LORD. Another, I AM The LORD Who Sanctifies you. We do not sanctify ourselves and then The HOLY SPIRIT kicks in to help, in Anything. All of Holy Scripture shows that GOD does the work and we respond, and even our response is driven and empowered by The HOLY SPIRIT. No one, in themselves (without The HOLY SPIRIT Working) can please GOD. We do not initiate it; any of it. This is because without The HOLY SPIRIT first Working, you are in Adam and remain under the wrath of GOD. Faith is a gift, from who, yourself? No. Everything that pleases GOD, was accomplished by CHRIST and HIS Finished Work, which is applied to the believer by Grace, which is the free gift of GOD, that no one may boast, as you just did. Outside of that, there is only wrath. Please, drop your traditions, and presuppositions, which we all have, and need to drop when we approach Holy Scripture, and read Ephesians 1&2. Of course, there are many many many sections of Holy Scripture that make this clear, but we must start somewhere. Have you read Romans 9? Please follow the personal pronouns and verb, so WHO is DOING What!?! Or, always follow WHO Is DOING and WHAT Is Being Done, such as, Romans 8, right after the wonderful promise And we know that GOD causes all things to work together for good to those who love GOD, to those who are Called according to HIS Purpose. For those whom HE Foreknew, HE also Predestined to become conformed to the image of HIS SON, so that HE would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom HE Predestined, HE also Called; and these whom HE Called, HE also Justified; and these whom HE Justified, HE also Glorified. the unbreakable golden chain of redemption, Now, once your eyes are opened to this, it will crush your pride, (which i believe you would acknowledge pride to be sin, correct) you will see that absolutely All of Holy Scripture is GOD at Work on behalf of HIS People. Grace, Peace, and LOVE to all those Made Holy by the Blood of The LAMB, YESHUA Ha- MASHIAC. i guess i should also direct you to the Words of The MASTER HIMSELF, like John 6 & John 10. John 14: No one can come to The FATHER accept by The SON, which we hear quoted a lot; and in John 6:44 HE, The MASTER, JESUS CHRIST says, no one can come to me unless The FATHER Who sent me draws ("drags", in original language) them, and I will raise him up on the last day.
We ought to always be longing to walk in the Spirit. It isn't something where you lose control of your vocal functions or anything, but there's an abundance that becomes manifested through the speaking of tongues. It's not given to everybody either. Not all speak in tongues, but we ought to eagerly long for these gifts because they're meant to bring glory to God.
@Even2TheEnd i dont know if your a 7 th day adventist or what but you are confused. and be careful what you judges as demonic you could be blaspheming the Holy Spirit
These people are literally CHARISMATICS, just dressed with Reformed Theology and now looked like Reformed but they're not . That's why I do not quote John Piper because he is essentially of the Charismatics . They do not believe in the SUFFICIENCY of the SCRIPTURES, they might claim to be but they're not ..
Sorry, but you are so wrong.. I have been filled with The Holy Ghost and been in ministry since 1980, and have had ''visitations'' from the Lord to ''CONFIRM WITH SIGNS FOLLOWING..!!!!
What is it then? It is a growth process; we grow to become more Christ like..that's growing in holiness. Your religious convictions and traditions are making you blind and stagnant...
These people are literally CHARISMATICS, just dressed with Reformed Theology and now looked like Reformed but they're not . That's why I do not quote John Piper because he is essentially of the Charismatics . They do not believe in the SUFFICIENCY of the SCRIPTURES, they might claim to be but they're not ..
John Piper is continuationist. However, He has told clearly that believes that the Scripture alone is enough... he said that we do not have to look for signs. But God’s word alone.
My Pastor says gift of prophecy builds up, stirs up, cheers up. Edification, exhortation, comfort.
I had forgotten about the verse, I had always thought it was strange when some churches allow speaking in tongues in the front of the church, with no interpreter, and now I know there is a Biblical basis for having someone present to interpret the speaking in tongues.
I Corinthians 14:28
"But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God."
Nate, I don’t even think speaking in tongues, miracles, healing, and etc are for today anyway. They were sign gifts.
-Moses was given miracles to authenticate his ministry before pharaoh
-Elijah was given miracles to authenticate his ministry before Ahab.
-The Apostles were given miracles to authenticate their authority before Israel. Acts 4:10, 16
The gift of tongues was a sign to unbelieving Israel that salvation was available to other nations. 1 Corinthians 14:21-22
Tongues miracles and healing were not meant to edify believers. They were meant for unbelievers. They were meant to indicate apostleship/authority.
@@blue5gd it's not about what you think, but about what God thinks😉
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord . For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:8-9 ESV
@Karla Molina of course. You’re absolutely correct.
People have done deeper explanations on tongues and miracles, but if miracles/healing still exists today, I don’t know why we don’t see people going in hospitals healing people. Tongues do not edify the church unless there is an interpreter and we are told to seek prophecy over tongues.
@@blue5gd the people who don’t believe it is for today are those who don’t have them.
@@blue5gd. Gee, how very CONVENIENT for YOU!
Thanks alot for the undiluted gospel
Thank you for sound teaching concerning spiritual gifts.
Amazing video. Preparing to teach this to the Youth group at my Church and these points that were made give me an awesome and Biblical canvas to lay out this message. God bless this ministry that is still bearing fruit for the Lord!
Sam Storms is an excellent teacher. Thanks for sharing this!
If you seek God , if he wills he will grant you tongues or it is His pleasure he will bestow another gift.
I have heard many incidents where some have spoken an unknown tongue to the speaker but there was others around who understood the language which in some cases was an ancient language that very few knew. I have in personal prayer remembered a name that I had never heard before found later that it was Jesus' name that Muslims use. Ultimately, our Heavenly Father wants to encourage and exhort His children which should be in the forefront of the minds of His Church.
The name given to the 60-70’s Revival was, “The Jesus Movement” not Tongues. Second, the greatest emphasis was “Fruit of the Spirit, not gifts. Third, the Trinity was emphasized for the first time in my life. Fourth, Dr. Storm’s view was the norm by teachers, not novices. Fifth, we saw many lives deeply transformed and healed. Do it again Lord!
Building up the body. Yes.
Very well done! Thank you
Rarely, if ever, do we hear about the abuses of those who do not believe in or practice the Gifts of the Spirit. If one teaches that all gifts of the Spirit have ceased and denigrates those who believe that is not the case then why is that not called abusive? I have found over the last 45 years that many times what we call abuse is nothing more than an affront to our pride and makes us feel uncomfortable because we are so bound up in religion.
no one admits all the gifts have ceased, not even the most ardent cessationists
they believe that tongues and prophecy have ceased, you are misrepresenting people which is bearing false witness
Excellent
@Even2TheEnd Colossians 2:16"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
Its more as the Scripture declare "But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills." It is bestowed upon by the Spirit. Not as my friend says a decision. Its not something me and you "decide" . The Spirit bestows it upon you.
@@screbbels but everything is God's will
I'm not sure if the Corinthians had more of the Spirit 9:42 then others did - if they didn't they wouldn't have so many problems
Thanks for the video. It was very interesting.
I dont think so. the sabbath has nothing to do with tongues. there are many godly people in the pentacostal movement maybe not the wisest or fine tuned in theology . but my brothers and sisters.
Listen at 13:43 where he takes 4 words from 1 Cor 12 ..."different kinds of tongues" (also translated "languages") . A second later he veers straight out of scripture into massive speculation. What would make anyone assume those 4 words mean incoherent babbling that any non-believer could mimic?
yeah if you look at the Greek, Paul writes " γένη (genē) γλωσσῶν, (glōssōn) meaning various kinds(gene) of tongues/languages(glosson)
in 1 Corinthians 14:10 paul uses the same word γένη (genē) when he says "there are many kinds of languages in the world, none without meaning
Your Faith.
God is the param atma, the concious mind of the universe and beyond. The WORD of God is in God and is God. The Spirit of God is in God and is God. The Word and Spirit of God can be with God and it can go to perform the bidding of God. Hence God is the param atma with His Word and Spirit. This is known as the Trinity. An example of the sun will clarify this aspect. The sun has two other elements viz. Heat and light. The heat of the sun its light and the sun is not three sun but one sun, like the Word of God and Spirit of God and God is one God. The heat and light of the sun, is in the sun and yet at the same time can be on earth or any other place. Similarly the Word and Spirit of God is with God and at the same time manifest anywhere, but all these make only one God. The three persons in one God forms God like the three sides of a triangle. Even if one side is missing it cannot be called a triangle. These are simple examples for understanding and cannot be considered otherwise.
God created the universe, the angles and all other creation including human beings. The angles and human being have the spirit of God, which is also referred as the soul. The angels and human beings have a free will. Even to disobey God. The law says disobedience to God's command is sin and the punishment for sin is death.
Lucifer and some of his angles revolted against God, when God made man the steward of creation. God threw Satan and his fallen angels on to the earth where they rule now.
Satan swore to destroy man, Gods favorite creation and for this he tempted Adam and Eve and caused them to sin. They disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge. Adam and eve were also thrown into this world, where satan was already shunted from heaven.
Result of their disobedience was death of body and soul. Law was same for humans and for Satan and his followers. However Satan revolted against God by his own free will, fully knowing the consequences and was not tricked by anyone but Adam and Eve were tricked by Satan.
God therefore in His wisdom promised a MASSIAH to save human beings from this punishment. Since human beings had disobeyed God, humans must face the judgment and punishment. One man who is sinless and a human being, can die to redeem all humankind. He would be the Messiah.
Since God had promised this messiah, God had to provide. In order to have such a person, the Word of God, which is God, had to incarnate as a human being, because only a human being's death, can fulfill the law and redeem humankind from the punishment of the law.
Two thousand years ago, the word of God became man. The man was born to a virgin woman, by the overshadowing of the holy spirit of God, who is also God, third person from the Trinity. Jesus was therefore perfect God and perfect man. Since Jesus was born of the spirit. Jesus became the son of God as He was begotten by God. The word of God took the title of Son of God, as a human being. Jesus was God because He is the Word incarnate and also human Son of God, because he was son of Mary, a human being. Therefore He was a perfect and sinlesshuman being. Once this is clear, you will have no confusion of the divinity of Jesus.
During the lifetime of jesus He projected Himself both as man with human qualities and as God, revealing divine qualities. Both these personalities are distinct and can be projected according to the circumstances.
That is why Jesus claim divinity with God, because of Word of God in Him and at other times jesus projected Himself as human, who is totally dependent on God. The sayings of Jesus must be seen in this light, as to who is speaking and the context, or else we will misunderstand the Bible. you will see both the human and divine aspect clearly.
For example jesus was tempted by the devil, Mathew chapter 4 verses 1 to 11., jesus felt hungry and thirsty. It was the human Jesus, who was tempted and not the divine Jesus. Human jesus had fear of death, as we see His prayers in the garden of Gethsemane. Jesus knew He would be forsaken, as jesus the word of God, being God could not die. Gospel of Mark chapter 14 verses 32 onwards. Jesus the human being was destined to be crucified. Hence jesus the God had to forsake the human jesus, to go for crucifixion as a human jesus. That is why we hear jesus crying out from the cross to God, asking why he was forsaken. Gospel of Mark chapter 15 verses 33 onwards.p God knows that jesus the human must pay the price to liberate mankind. Alternatively we see the divine nature of Jesus. His miracles, especiallythe healing of the paralytic man ,Mathew chapter 9 verses one onwards. Here Jesus says, take heart my son, your sins are forgiven. Only God can forgive sin. By this act of forgiving sin Jesus show His divinity. It is the Word of God in Jesus that was speaking. Jesus had said I and the Father are one. Here Jesus the divine Word of God is speaking. Similarly when Jesus said if you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Here too Jesus the Word incarnate is speaking because the Word of God and the Spirit of God is one with the Father God. Further the act of Jesus cleansing the temple Mathew chapter 21 verses 12 onwards. The turning of tables of money changers in Jerusalem temple. Chasing the traders of doves and other sacrificial animals would under normal circumstances be a sin, If jesus the human had done this. It would be sinful of beating and destroying property of others. Similarly Jesus calls the phrases a brood of vipers hippocrites. These would be sinful for human Jesus, but these acts are not sinful, for Jesus the Word of God who has the authority to punish.
So the distinction is clear, of God Jesus, as God Jesus can do all these acts but human Jesus doing them would be sinful.
The God Jesus was all powerful. We see
that nature and its law obeying God Jesus, tells us about His divinity ,being the Word of God. The separate identity of Jesus the Word of God and human Jesus is clear although both the divine and human are in one body.
However, the human Jesus was forsaken by the Word of God, when He was arrested in the garden of Gethsemane. John chapter 18 verses 4 onwards. The Word of God distanced from human Jesus. It was the human jesus who was to be crucified and die for all mankind to fulfill the Law and the judgment, thereby redeeming all mankind. When Jesus said I am He the people who came to arrest Jesus drew back and fell to the ground. From that point onwards Jesus the human being went as human for the crucifixion.
When that mission was over, God the Father shifted Himself from being a judge, to again being the Father, as the Law was fulfilled. He once again became Father to Adam and eve and their descendents.
After jesus died, the Word of God again entered into the lifeless body of jesus and resurrected Him. Jesus regained His divinity as the Word of God is now once again is in Him. Jesus then regained paradise, went to hades to liberate the souls there and on the third day appeared on the earth.
When jesus was on this earth before His death, his divinity and humanity could be split, but after the resurrection His humanity is merged for ever in the Divinity . Therefore jesus is God because of the Word of God is in Him. He still has His human nature and that's why He is seated at the right hand of the Father. That is why Jesus the human is prophet, priest and king.
After the death of Jesus on the cross the Law being fulfilled, the judging God became Father God and Jesus became God's Son, two thousand years ago, when God bigotened Him. Jesus was God because He is the incarnated Word, when He was upon the earth. The Word of God is NOW know as the Son of God. That is why Christians belive the Father, Son and the Holy spirit is the Trinity, which earlier was known as Father, Word of God and Holy SpiritofGod.
This divine human jesus will come again soon, to judge the world and then rule over His kingdom for thousand year.
You must believe that Jesus is your redeemer and live by His command, only then, you will not have to go through the judgment route, all other people, will have to go through judgment. Now is the time to make your decision. Do you want to be saved by the grace of Jesus, which He has gained by His obedience to the Fathers command to die on the cross for all humanity. All mankind is saved. The condition is to accept Jesus as your Savior and to live by His teachings. If you fulfill both these conditions then you will not be judged but is saved by Jesus or you choose the judgment route, where you will have to answer for your life. If your life is blameless then you may receive the mercy of God and get everlasting life in God's kingdom. Why wait for judgment, it is wiser to be saved by Jesus when we are on earth and avoid judgment. The choice is ours.
This interpretation will answer all questions.
Can God incarnate as human. The answer is yes. The Word of God incarnated as a human jesus. However human cannot be God. That is why Jesus is perfect God and perfect mam.
How Jesus is God, because Jesus is the incarnation of the Word of God, who is God, the second person of trinity.
How jesus is the son of God, because God has begotten Jesus through Mary, two thousand years ago. as a human jesus, who as man must die for the sins of all mankind.
This proves Jesus the man died not as God because God cannot die.
Jesus is now in heaven after His resurrection and is God because He is now the Word of God. The human jesus is seated at the right hand of God as prophet, priest and king. You cannot now have a split, of the personality of jesus, as divinity is merged in the humanity of Jesus. That is why we now say the Trinity as Father, Son and the Holy spirit. Three persons in ONE God
George Varghese
The spiritual gifts were imparted through the laying on of hands by the apostles of Christ. Crash and burn Sam.
I have a question how do I know for sure that I am indeed speaking in angelic tongues and not being deceived by my imagination, what is the standard parameter by which one says "this is an angelic tongue and this other thing isn't" ?
Carlos Aguilera jump on here if your on Facebook. Myself and others will be happy to have a talk about it facebook.com/groups/368546276561042/
Carlos what I do is not initiate speaking in tounges. I only partake when moved. From there on, hopefully to be affirmed by inner peace or outer results.
God Bless you my friend. Good luck.
what a great question
The gift of tongues is not an angelic language. In the Bible days, it was used to spread the gospel to people who did not speak the same language. There is a reason for the gifts that God empowered the people with, and speaking in angelic utterances would help nobody. We read that speaking in tongues is for the unbeliever, not as a personal language between the believer and God.
We had a case in our church ,one of our brother who was speaking in tongues ,the brother didn't initiate it neither know was it not from the Holy spirit but as days past ,one day we hard a great church service and it came to our understand that the brother was possessed by demons and those tongues were by the demons but he didn't know all the time till this day.
But the gift of tongues is very real and true brother but let it be it's from God.
Read your bible and prayer.
All well and good to debate if the Bible says sign gifts continue. The more interesting question is...has anyone seen any? There are a billion Christians on the planet. Where is there 1 man manifesting any of the gifts in the manner done in scripture? Tongues are known languages in the Bible. Healings are observable and verifiable. Prophecy is clear and always accurate. We see nothing approaching this today. What we see today is largely acting, performing, and role playing motivated on a specteun ranging from innocent naiveté to blatant, calculated deception. I am very skeptical that supernatural gifts from the Creator would manifest in ways so weak and dilute that their veracity could be disputed mucb less easily replicated by any non-believer.
does not just happen, IF one speaks in tounges, it is a concious decision.
You’re wrong... I spoke in tongues the night I repented with tears after Fastin’ on & off for Three months about my Baptism. Plus the true understandin’ of certain Scriptures. I had never spoken in that Language before in my life! (As a matter of fact...prior to that I had a problem with Folks who spoke in unknown Tongues) Not any more. And I can assure y’all of one thang. It was not a conscious decision. The pouring out of the Holy Ghost actually scared the hell plumb outta me! What a powerful gift!
@meinaim It is, in my opinion, a tremendous abuse for pastors to say, "Start doing this with your mouth, lips, and that's how it works." I think that has done tremendous damage. Scripture is clear that not all will have this gift. I received the gift about 20 years ago, and it was during a prayer meeting. A group of guys in our church all became deeply convicted after an evening Bible study that was taught on purity. It turned into 3 nights of prayer. Numbers started to dwindle after the first night, but it kept going for the next couple of days. However, on night #2, I received the gift as I was praying, in deep brokenness, for a dear friend of mine. I had searched the Scriptures tirelessly in prior years out of curiosity, with the desire of just wanting everything that the Lord wanted me to have. However, when I received this gift, tongues was the furthest thing from my mind. I probably hadn't thought about it in 6 months. It just happened. I cringe when I see it abused in churches all over the globe. And the Apostle Paul put this gift fairly low on the totem pole. It's not something to flaunt. All gifts are to be used for the edification of the body. In fact, there are people who have known me for 20 years who don't know I have the gift, and that's because I don't flaunt it, and I've never known anybody who has the gift of interpretation. That, to me, is the greatest mystery. So, I use it (in a Biblical way) as mentioned when no interpreter is present. If some of the gifts have ceased, perhaps the gift of interpretation has? In all my years in the church, I've not met one person who has that particular gift. I even find myself praying for that gift, too. Some of my favorite Bible scholars and expositors are cessationists. So, I usually look to other teachers when it comes to those passages. It's an experience. I've experienced it. And I do see it in Scripture. With that said, I still don't think I've ever seen the gift used in a Biblical way within a congregational setting. Seek the Lord, my friends, but don't seek Him for what He has. Seek Him for who He IS, and you'll receive what you need, when you need it. And test everything by the written Word of God. The only way one can do that, is by living in the God-breathed Book He's given us. Godspeed.
@@jeridiahwatson3718 Do you reckon that the outburst of the unknown tongue was a sign that you had been baptized?
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Why is the church today so divided on the subject of spiritual gifts?
Because some people will babble like babies and think they are speaking in tongues.
I'm a bit confused...
Keep reading and praying... :)
+m1gogreen, no friend, no one can confess that JESUS Is LORD without The HOLY SPIRIT prompting them. What you are advocating is called synergism. Christians are Monergists. Salvation is of The LORD, not you and then The LORD, or even you and The LORD. Another, I AM The LORD Who Sanctifies you. We do not sanctify ourselves and then The HOLY SPIRIT kicks in to help, in Anything. All of Holy Scripture shows that GOD does the work and we respond, and even our response is driven and empowered by The HOLY SPIRIT. No one, in themselves (without The HOLY SPIRIT Working) can please GOD. We do not initiate it; any of it. This is because without The HOLY SPIRIT first Working, you are in Adam and remain under the wrath of GOD. Faith is a gift, from who, yourself? No. Everything that pleases GOD, was accomplished by CHRIST and HIS Finished Work, which is applied to the believer by Grace, which is the free gift of GOD, that no one may boast, as you just did. Outside of that, there is only wrath. Please, drop your traditions, and presuppositions, which we all have, and need to drop when we approach Holy Scripture, and read Ephesians 1&2. Of course, there are many many many sections of Holy Scripture that make this clear, but we must start somewhere. Have you read Romans 9? Please follow the personal pronouns and verb, so WHO is DOING What!?! Or, always follow WHO Is DOING and WHAT Is Being Done, such as, Romans 8, right after the wonderful promise And we know that GOD causes all things to work together for good to those who love GOD, to those who are Called according to HIS Purpose. For those whom HE Foreknew, HE also Predestined to become conformed to the image of HIS SON, so that HE would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom HE Predestined, HE also Called; and these whom HE Called, HE also Justified; and these whom HE Justified, HE also Glorified. the unbreakable golden chain of redemption, Now, once your eyes are opened to this, it will crush your pride, (which i believe you would acknowledge pride to be sin, correct) you will see that absolutely All of Holy Scripture is GOD at Work on behalf of HIS People. Grace, Peace, and LOVE to all those Made Holy by the Blood of The LAMB, YESHUA Ha- MASHIAC. i guess i should also direct you to the Words of The MASTER HIMSELF, like John 6 & John 10. John 14: No one can come to The FATHER accept by The SON, which we hear quoted a lot; and in John 6:44 HE, The MASTER, JESUS CHRIST says, no one can come to me unless The FATHER Who sent me draws ("drags", in original language) them, and I will raise him up on the last day.
so then does one try to speak in tounges or does it just happen ?
We ought to always be longing to walk in the Spirit. It isn't something where you lose control of your vocal functions or anything, but there's an abundance that becomes manifested through the speaking of tongues. It's not given to everybody either. Not all speak in tongues, but we ought to eagerly long for these gifts because they're meant to bring glory to God.
Angel tongue = metaphore from the second Temple. Inform you about it
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@Even2TheEnd Colossians
@Even2TheEnd i dont know if your a 7 th day adventist or what but you are confused. and be careful what you judges as demonic you could be blaspheming the Holy Spirit
These people are literally CHARISMATICS, just dressed with Reformed Theology and now looked like Reformed but they're not .
That's why I do not quote John Piper because he is essentially of the Charismatics .
They do not believe in the SUFFICIENCY of the SCRIPTURES, they might claim to be but they're not ..
Well , every scripture about the gifts and operation of gifts are the ' sufficiently of scriptures '
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How about D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Paul Washer?
So basically prophecy for this man is telling people what they want to hear.
If these people were real christians they would keep the sabbath. This brand of tongues is not from God.
the absurdity of your comment literally made me laugh out loud.... hilarious
You should not try to speak tongues.
Scripture is not sufficient for Storms
what a stupid statement. gezzzz. do you even read Scripture right?
That's not fair...Paul exhorts us seek spiritual gifts..Sola Scriptura.
Tongues is man made, crested by the brain..those whom claim tongues are lying to themselves and our Lord!
Seems to me they're also very present in our Scriptures...
Sorry, but you are so wrong.. I have been filled with The Holy Ghost and been in ministry since 1980, and have had ''visitations'' from the Lord to ''CONFIRM WITH SIGNS FOLLOWING..!!!!
what heretic, sanctification is not a process
How do you define spiritual growth? Do we grow in holiness?
What is it then? It is a growth process; we grow to become more Christ like..that's growing in holiness. Your religious convictions and traditions are making you blind and stagnant...
These people are literally CHARISMATICS, just dressed with Reformed Theology and now looked like Reformed but they're not .
That's why I do not quote John Piper because he is essentially of the Charismatics .
They do not believe in the SUFFICIENCY of the SCRIPTURES, they might claim to be but they're not ..
1 Corinthians tells us to forbid not tongues & 1 Thessalonianzssays to despise not prophesyings
John Piper is continuationist. However, He has told clearly that believes that the Scripture alone is enough... he said that we do not have to look for signs. But God’s word alone.