American Couple React: 8 Ways British & American Education Systems Are Very Different!

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  • American Couple React: 8 Ways British & American Education Systems Are Very Different! From Lost in The Pond! What better topic to continue our UK education than with a video on education! A very fun and informative video to shed some light on the differences in our 2 Country's education systems. We hope you enjoy this video! Please Like and Subscribe to our channel. We love having you all here and truly appreciate you!
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Komentáře • 543

  • @octaviussludberry9016
    @octaviussludberry9016 Před 2 lety +191

    Maths because it's mathematics, not mathematic.
    It's a mass noun, including several disciplines - calculus; geometry; trigonometry; algebra.
    We get each other, so it doesn't really matter.

    • @RonpaMr
      @RonpaMr Před 2 lety +9

      Thank you, saved me the trouble of explaining.

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis Před 2 lety

      'Mathematic' is an adjective, another version of 'mathematical'.

    • @octaviussludberry9016
      @octaviussludberry9016 Před 2 lety +8

      @@blackbob3358 what?

    • @davidhines68
      @davidhines68 Před 2 lety +1

      We also understand each other when Americans say 'sports' and English say 'sport'. Well, I'm not sure many Americans have any clue what's going on in Cricket, but that's a story for another day.

    • @seamonster936
      @seamonster936 Před 2 lety

      @@davidhines68 Most Americans know more about what’s going on in cricket than my country’s national cricket squad.

  • @ChrisPage68
    @ChrisPage68 Před 2 lety +67

    Another difference is that in the UK, you only graduate from University.

    • @davidhines68
      @davidhines68 Před 2 lety +2

      We Americans love to overdo graduation. We have nursery school graduations here. I think this is a relatively new phenomenon, as I only experienced graduations in high school and university (still more than the UK, but much less than the 5-6 graduations a modern American schoolchild-cum-student might).

    • @danielwhyatt3278
      @danielwhyatt3278 Před 2 lety

      Yeah that is another pretty big difference.

    • @royalalloy3471
      @royalalloy3471 Před 2 lety

      Very poor understanding of definitions of words, and education systems.

  • @margaretnicol3423
    @margaretnicol3423 Před 2 lety +203

    The school uniform meant that every child wore the same whether they were poor or rich. It was a mark of equality in learning.

    • @thisisnev
      @thisisnev Před 2 lety +36

      Many English schools experimented with abolishing uniforms for a while, but found it led to rich kids bullying poor kids over their clothing.

    • @amandab4978
      @amandab4978 Před 2 lety +16

      @@thisisnev conversely, the equality conferred by uniforms was often subverted by poorer families being unable to afford increasingly expensive uniforms. Buying uniforms that you could 'grow into' was common, and led to many children perpetually wearing ill-fitting clothes.

    • @margaretnicol3423
      @margaretnicol3423 Před 2 lety +8

      @@amandab4978 I think there used to be a grant for school uniforms for poorer or out of work families but I have a feeling that was reduced or scrapped.

    • @jeffthomas3707
      @jeffthomas3707 Před 2 lety +9

      It also gives a sense of identity.

    • @ffotograffydd
      @ffotograffydd Před 2 lety +4

      @@amandab4978 That’s why most schools have moved to generic polo shirts, sweatshirts, skirts and trousers in a specific colour or colours. They can be purchased cheaply and the school badge sewn onto them. My sister bought a full set of uniform clothes for both her kids for a fraction of what our uniforms cost back in the 1980s.

  • @davidcook7887
    @davidcook7887 Před 2 lety +43

    Uniforms in British schools mean you can’t tell who has rich parents and who has poor parents. That eliminates all the superior and inferior crap in one swipe. Hallelujah!

    • @cajunseasoning1846
      @cajunseasoning1846 Před 2 lety +3

      except it didnt work because uniforms are ridiculously expensive and poorer families resorted to buying uniforms too big for children that they'd grow into. Besides, kids will find any way to differ from eachother in any way possible, a uniform wouldn't stop rich kids bullying ot separating themselves from poorer kids. Either it was the smartphones, weekly allowance, shoes, bags, haircuts, latest cool trend, people would find a way regardless. So no, the superior and infeior crap was not eliminated in one swipe. Less wealthy families were only forced to spend more money on poor fitting clothes and shoes instead of wearing what they had and schools mad it absolutely bs hell about what you wore and punished you for it not being acceptable enough. 'the tights are too transparant' 'trousers are too tight' (even though it was fine for others to wear it for some reason). And we were forced to buy MORE CLOTHES that realistically shouldnt have been an issue.

    • @Bringon-dw8dx
      @Bringon-dw8dx Před 2 lety +3

      @@cajunseasoning1846
      Depends on the school.
      Worked at my school. EVERYONE had clothes too big for them in year 7 regardless of wealth, and then by the end everyone had basically mixed up uniforms with each other. Shoes, socks, hair bands, hair cuts/colours, bags etc were all so regulated you really couldn’t tell wealth.

    • @Docktavion
      @Docktavion Před 2 lety

      One guy I went to school inherited a couple mil, which resulted in him having a large stipend from this and so he used to buy a new (silk) school shirt each week and just discarded the old ones.

    • @seamonster936
      @seamonster936 Před 2 lety

      That is bullshit, you can tell by the cars, who uses the municipal buses and prefects’ parents donated the money here in South Africa

    • @davidcook7887
      @davidcook7887 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Docktavion He’d have got sorted out in my school. If everyone has got the uniform no one bothers

  • @user-sx6eu4rg2x
    @user-sx6eu4rg2x Před 2 lety +29

    I feel like to an extent his explanation was a little bit confusing. Basically, Nursery school and Reception 0-5 years, Primary School 5-11 years, Secondary School 11-16 years (GCSE's) you can finish school and get a job or do a vocational course at this point, Sixth Form/College 16-18 years (A-Levels - you need for university), and then University is 18 years and most degrees last 3 years.

    • @rogoth01themasterwizard11
      @rogoth01themasterwizard11 Před 2 lety +2

      just to correct you one one point, a few years back the government made education mandatory until the age of 18, meaning you can't legally leave school at 16 anymore, you must still attend a 6th form or independent college while working from 16, if that's what you choose to do.

    • @santanamauricio
      @santanamauricio Před 2 lety

      In Australia degrees are 4 years

    • @rogoth01themasterwizard11
      @rogoth01themasterwizard11 Před 2 lety +2

      @@santanamauricio in the UK some degree courses are 4 years, some are 5 years, it depends on the subject taken, most however are 3 years hence the generalisation in the video.

    • @TheSmittenman
      @TheSmittenman Před 2 lety

      When i was forced to attend prison for 11 years Primary School was 5-8, then Junior School 8-11, then either Secondary or High School 11-16. After that free to choose to stay on or leave.

    • @Innermoonb
      @Innermoonb Před 2 lety

      @@rogoth01themasterwizard11 just to correct you on one point, while it was made “mandatory” it’s not really enforced if someone leaves school and then gets a job. The company I work for Employs a lot of school leavers full time

  • @neilfraser6646
    @neilfraser6646 Před 2 lety +22

    In England the 4 tiers of school used to be infants 4 - 7 years juniors 7 - 11 years and seniors / secondary 11 - 16 years then lower and upper 6th form 16 - 18 years

    • @richardshaw1968
      @richardshaw1968 Před 2 lety

      Some places have first school then middle school, then upper school at 12 if selective either Secondary Modern or Grammar School

    • @Charlzey1998
      @Charlzey1998 Před 2 lety

      Depends on the County/City councils. My council has First/Middle & High. I know some Birmingham schools still have the Infant's/Junior/High in place

  • @clare2401
    @clare2401 Před 2 lety +56

    The uniform thing works in many ways. It stops kids from being bullied and it makes children recognisable by school if they are doing something they shouldn't be doing out of school. In my secondary school we told that as soon as we put our uniform on in the morning we were representing the school. If you got caught fighting with someone from a different school the culprits were easily identified by school same went for bunking school, shop lifting etc

    • @MrNikolidas
      @MrNikolidas Před 2 lety +2

      While I agree with almost all of this, I don't think uniforms stop kids getting bullied. They just get bullied in different ways. In my school, uniforms were expensive and it was glaringly obvious who had a knock-off or a handed-down blazer, or not-quite-black-enough trousers. You also got singled out if you wore your tie correctly; the lower it was without being told to fix it, the cooler you were. Kids will always be cruelly creative when it comes to discriminating or bullying.

    • @clare2401
      @clare2401 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MrNikolidas
      Of course but you're not bullied because you're not sporting the latest labels or trainers etc. Kids will bully others because they are fat, wear glasses, are ginger, they get free school lunches....the list is endless but if a basic uniform is taken then its one less thing

    • @TheBananaman491
      @TheBananaman491 Před 2 lety +1

      something to add and the reason why some after school clubs like brownies scouts ect have uniforms is when you're on a trip somewhere with the class you can see who is from your school at a glance instead of having to make sure everyone is there by reading off a list count the list count the people in your uniform if it doesnt match up then someone is missing obviously you would normally do the list but for just quick checks you dont have to go through the entire list my mum was a brownie leader so i went on a few trips with them when i was not old enough to be left home alone they never went on any trips without the uniform i dont think the sash was required but was probably worn anyway

  • @markjevons3556
    @markjevons3556 Před 2 lety +29

    As a side note in the UK, when you finish your exams at 16 you can give up education and join the work force direct and get a job. I for example joined the British army at 16 as a 'boy soldier'.

    • @cogidubnus1953
      @cogidubnus1953 Před 2 lety +9

      It's changed I'm afraid. Largely I think an attempt to artificially reduce (un)employment statistics, but to quote from the gov.uk website where it relates to England:-
      "You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
      You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
      - stay in full-time education, for example at a college
      - start an apprenticeship or traineeship
      - spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training"
      It seems to be different for the Armed Services though - perhaps the ages 16 to 18 count as apprenticeships - or twenty hours per week while training or some such get-out...I recall from my former job that if we wanted to take on youngsters we had to offer an apprenticeship with at least one day away per week for college.

    • @kretisme
      @kretisme Před 2 lety +1

      @@cogidubnus1953 I don't know about England in Scotland you can still jump straight into work at 16 my last job worked with a few 16 year olds working full time although they are encouraged to go to further education I think it's because you can get a flat at 16 in Scotland don't know if it's the same in England or not

    • @cogidubnus1953
      @cogidubnus1953 Před 2 lety +2

      @@kretisme The government website acknowledges and lists the differing conditions for youngsters in other parts of the UK.
      I think this is one area where the Scots have got it right.
      Whilst I see definite benefits in encouraging apprenticeships, I see none whatever in forcing non-academically inclined young people into remaining at schools they don't wish to attend...where some of them, out of resentment/frustration may at the very least become a distraction for others.

    • @bethwilliams5579
      @bethwilliams5579 Před 2 lety

      @@cogidubnus1953 it's still 16 in Wales. I know this as I live just over the English border, and quite a few English companies recruit 16 year old from Wales and then pay them peanuts

    • @RevStickleback
      @RevStickleback Před 2 lety

      @@cogidubnus1953 What happens if you don't do one of those things?

  • @Sidistic_Atheist
    @Sidistic_Atheist Před 2 lety +4

    Math denotes a singular.. Like Geometry, Trigonometry, Algebra etc...
    These are separate mathematical disciplines. So when taught together in the same class/subject.
    It's referred to as mathematics or maths for short.

  • @Sidistic_Atheist
    @Sidistic_Atheist Před 2 lety +2

    Back in my 70's school days. We had *corporal punishment* in schools. (ie) the slipper or the cane.
    Girls used to have to *kneel down on the floor* and if the bottom of their skirt didn't hit the floor.
    They were *whacked* on the back of their calves with a *ruler* .

  • @Paul.
    @Paul. Před 2 lety +4

    Because its an abrieviation of mathematics, which is plural.

  • @ChrisPage68
    @ChrisPage68 Před 2 lety +2

    In the County my niece and nephew live - Cambridgeshire - high schools in rural areas are called "Village Colleges".
    And it grinds my corn when Americans call university/college "school", even if it is not for medicine or law. 😤

  • @lizbramwell5085
    @lizbramwell5085 Před 2 lety +13

    In Scotland we have nursery, then primary school which is for 4/5 to 11/12 year old's. Essentially seven years (P1- P7) and we would call each year group primary one or primary two etc. rather than year 1 like in England. Then secondary school (we also say high school sometimes) which lasts for six years and we just call each year S1 S2 etc and don't have upper and lower sixth like in England. You would take your first exams at the end of 4th year which would be your nat 4's or nat 5's and you would be about 15 or 16 then. The next year (5th year) you would take the next exam level up which is usually highers and you would take about 5 in whichever subjects you chose and then in sixth year you would sit 2 or 3 advanced highers or choose to sit some more highers in different subjects than the year before. You can choose to leave school at 16 but usually people only do that if they're going to further education like college or an apprenticeship. Most people stay till 6th year and so would leave secondary school at either 17 or 18. And we have uniforms and most people seem pretty okay with that, it does make getting ready easier.
    I started this thinking I could make it really clear but now I look at it it seems complicated. Sorry, hope this helps :)
    Nursery (for under 5's) Primary school (5-12) for seven years Secondary school (12 - 18) six years, but you could leave after 4 or when you're 16. Then Uni or college or work or nothing if that's what floats your boat.

  • @coot1925
    @coot1925 Před 2 lety +1

    When I was at school in the 60s & 70s we still got the cane if we misbehaved and teachers were allowed to give you a smack around the head or hit you across the hand with a ruler. The classroom was so quiet that you could hear a mosquito fart and we had to sit up straight and not slump. We had to wear ties even in the middle of summer. I hated school but I leaned fast and I realised that bad behaviour had adverse consequences. Not like these days where kids have no discipline and have no deterrent for wrong doings. It's made me a more thoughtful and respectful human being. Love you girls. ✌️♥️🇬🇧

  • @Paul_Davies77
    @Paul_Davies77 Před 2 lety +2

    Loved the Floyd reference for your intro.
    We also call secondary school comprehensive, or more commonly just Comp

  • @emmaseager1006
    @emmaseager1006 Před 2 lety +4

    Hi I think uniform is a good thing all the children look the same so it’s non judgemental on if you aren’t wearing the latest trainers etc also if you are on school trips you are easily spotted amongst people who don’t have uniform

  • @SageRue
    @SageRue Před 2 lety +1

    Basically in England it goes:
    Nursery (3-4 year olds)
    Reception (4-5 year olds)
    Year 1 (5-6)
    Year 2 (6-7)
    And so on
    The last year of primary school is year 6 (10-11)
    You then start secondary school (often called high school) secondary school starts in year 7 (11-12) and finishes in year 11 (15-16)
    You can then choose to go to your schools sixth form or go to a college or do some other type of educational course. Your time here usually starts with year 12/lower sixth (16-17) and ends with year 13/upper sixth (17-18).
    After this you can choose to go to university which is usually 3 years.

  • @ffotograffydd
    @ffotograffydd Před 2 lety +13

    Calling it sixth form is a throwback to when the years were named differently. Secondary school used to be 1st year to 5th year for kids between the ages of 11-16, then lower 6th and upper 6th for those between 17-18 who were doing A’levels.

    • @pbainbridge5
      @pbainbridge5 Před 2 lety +2

      That was my experience of the year numbering system too, and it makes more sense than the current continuous numbering scheme to me on the whole. Mainly because Secondary school was a completely different school, much larger drawing together pupils from several Primary schools in the catchment area. Being a First Year pupil at secondary school then makes far more sense year god knows what in the continuous list thing because we all started from scratch again at a new school. Interestingly, uniform was not required at primary school, that only started at Secondary school, encompassing First Year to Fifth Year. By 6th form we were deemed able to dress ourselves once again, so no uniform needed during my A-levels.

    • @rbbm454
      @rbbm454 Před 2 lety

      It was 1993/4 where it all changed, ended term a 4th year, came back as year 12 or something, I was very confused. And yeah, 6th and upper 6th is a throwback to those days.

    • @littleussi
      @littleussi Před 2 lety

      @@rbbm454 I thought it ended in 1990. I was due to become a fifth year but came back as Year 11. We were all confused for a while.

    • @TheNatashaDebbieShow
      @TheNatashaDebbieShow  Před 2 lety

      Where's the head scratching emoji

    • @susanpearson-creativefibro
      @susanpearson-creativefibro Před 2 lety

      Because of a throwback to the two school system (which we later reverted back to) I went from Middle School to high school and started in year 3. Which at some point during the year changed from year 3 to year 9 because I have the odd thing from school that uses both of those class names. It is funny how we still ask someone if they are staying of for sixth form when it hasn’t been called that for years.

  • @ianreid
    @ianreid Před 2 lety +10

    Happy anniversary to 2 lovely people. As Al Murray said "separated by a command language and a great big ocean"

  • @zebj16
    @zebj16 Před 2 lety +7

    No dark sarcasm in the classroom,
    Hey teacher, leave them kids alone.
    Ah Mr R Waters I presume (goes with the prism t-shirt though that's a different album).
    Love you video again...

  • @davehopkin9502
    @davehopkin9502 Před 2 lety +1

    Math v Maths - Mathermatics is divided into branches, Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry, Calculus etc, therefore the word covering them all is a "mass noun" therefore plural

  • @TheNatashaDebbieShow
    @TheNatashaDebbieShow  Před 2 lety +24

    Hope you all enjoyed this episode! We definitely did but towards the end got a bit confused at the multiple year "names" still working on it. But we learned a lot in the last 2 months, so we're confident we'll get this too! Let us know if you prefer the video in the middle. Thanks for watching & for your support! ❤❤

    • @christopherhandscomb6614
      @christopherhandscomb6614 Před 2 lety +1

      When i was at school (think it's roughly the same in my area now) we had Nursery (mainly cheap babysitting with a little bit of teaching how to go to the toilet by yourself) then there was lower school years 1-4 ((ages 5-8) year 1 was reception basically playtime/ learning colours and the odd letter and number!) then there's middle school years 5-8 (ages 9-12) basically preperation for upper school but with a fair bit of learning (year 6 is also when we started to learn a second language (french in my case, didn't work as the teacher was an ejit)), Upper school is years 9-11 (ages 13-15) up to and including year 9 everyone would have to do classes in every subject but in year 9 we have to choose what subjects we wanted to focus on for our GCSE's in year 10 and 11. In years 10 and 11 though there are still core subjects everyone has to take (English, Maths, Science, a language usually 1 or 2 choices available and a few other subjects) but there were a few extra subjects you could take (you had to choose i believe it was 4 extra subjects) as they would be adventageous later on with A-levels and Degrees etc. For instance i took graphic products and art as i thought it would help me towards that sort of career choice. Years 12 and 13 (ages 16-17) you would have a choice, if you in school and do years 12 and 13 you will more than likely be doing A-levels ((of which you would have to do 3 or 4 subjects but no more) these have been split up for the last 20 years (god i'm getting old!!! :( ) so you can do the first year and get an AS-level then get a qualification and then if you want can do a second year and get the full A-level) if you are don't get on well with test then you can go for what's called an NVQ (again this was 20 years ago they may have changed the names of things) or a National Vocational Qualification (sort of on the job training, aprenticeships etc) this would be done not at the school but at a local college. The colleges also do A-levels and would probably have a wider veriety of subjects and would also provide higher qualifications too (can't remember what they're all called now) but after that you would then go to University where you would do Degrees, Doctorats, Masters etc In Britain (well England where i'm from) ALL education is free (unless you go to a private school obviously) upto the age of 18 after that point you may get some help through loans etc but you'd have to pay if you wanted to go into higher education (University). sorry was long winded but hope that helps (this was my experience growing up) Also just to put a spanner in the works some areas in the UK have a 2 tier system so will go to lower school years 1-6ish then upper school years 6-13 (personally i prefered the 3 tier system! ;)

  • @advanced_ict
    @advanced_ict Před 2 lety +3

    The "year" numbering system in England is relatively new - it didn't exist when I was at school. We used to start counting again when we started secondary school, so current years 7 - 11 were called the 1st to 5th year, and that's why the following year is called the "6th form" when it's years 12 and 13.

    • @blotski
      @blotski Před 2 lety +1

      The present system of numbering has been in place for about 33 years so not that new really. Time flies I'm afraid.

    • @advanced_ict
      @advanced_ict Před 2 lety

      @@blotski The last school I worked in opened in 1440, so it's all relative.

  • @ruthgrimley7653
    @ruthgrimley7653 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm in England (yorkshire). In my primary/middle school we had uniforms but were only really worn when necessary, like photo day or if something special/important was happening. In my high school we didn't have school uniform as such, but school colours. So within reason we could wear what we wanted as long as they were in school colours

  • @damightyshabba439
    @damightyshabba439 Před 2 lety +28

    You girls are getting better at this - that dry humour and semi-scripted opening is good, on any standard ;) I watched some of your earlier videos and yes, you were gabbling away for a while, going off point etc. Which was fine - quite endearing, actually. But now you seem a little more focused, organised. Feel free to bring on the chaos every so often though. YT loves unpredictability.

    • @samgarrod4781
      @samgarrod4781 Před 2 lety

      No it doesn't. Please don't change what you do due to a comment.❤

  • @lederra1
    @lederra1 Před rokem +1

    When I was at school in the UK, the schools were known as Infants (roughly around the age of 5 -7 years, though I started when I was 4 and half, was not typical to have younger children than 5 but occasionally there was), Junior ( 7-11 years) and then it was Secondary School (11 - 16 years, though again because I started school earlier than most I was 15 when I left school). It was in 1986 when I left school. I did go to college but not straight after leaving school, I did other things, however when I went back to education as a mature student at the age of 36. I was the oldest student at that time in my local college doing A-levels.

  • @damedusa5107
    @damedusa5107 Před 2 lety +3

    The 6th form is a throwback. Because in the past the year number used to be reset at secondary school. So year 7 used to be year 1 again. So lower 6th and upper 6th form which is now year 12 an 13. We tend to keep many old terms mixed in with the new.

    • @wessexdruid5290
      @wessexdruid5290 Před 2 lety

      So - where would Bunter of the 'Remove' fit in? 😃 (I was a first former, in 1970 - we still had mid-morning 'parade', back then...)

  • @denisemeredith2436
    @denisemeredith2436 Před 2 lety +3

    In the county of Worcestershire where I grew up, they still have primary, middle and high schools. I remember primary school where in the first year we did some study but we also had story time followed by nap time. My high school had been a grammar school and they kept some of the traditions. Prefects had to wear black scholar gowns, we also had 3 ties - the basic school tie then if you played sport for the school, you were awarded a games tie which had a different stripe and when you reached 6th form, we had a smarter tie with the addition of a thin red stripe next to the wider pale blue with navy background.

  • @nickthomas4092
    @nickthomas4092 Před 2 lety +5

    Love you both you kind of remind me of a female Penn and Teller with Nat talking a lot and debs barely getting a word in. Congrats on your anniversary, love your work and how it is developing.

  • @cydery
    @cydery Před 2 lety +1

    A comment about uniforms. When I went to school back in the age of the dinosauses, uniforms were a way to prevent distinction between kids from well off families and those less privalidge. It broke down class.

  • @zebj16
    @zebj16 Před 2 lety +14

    Dr. Brian May is an alumni of Imperial College, London (gaining a B. Sc. (Hons.) then a Ph. D. in physics). I believe he plays a bit of guitar 🎸 or something?
    Imperial College is of course a University (indeed part of the University of London). Not many girls go there (mostly engineering/science based) however the Royal College of Music is just across the road and is full of girls (there are boys as well) so I'm guessing that's why Brian started playing guitar 🤣.
    (How do I know this, coz I went to Imperial 😎). Love you two 💗 & happy anniversary 🧁

    • @BaresEatBeats
      @BaresEatBeats Před 2 lety +2

      Alumnus*. I didn’t know May went to Imperial, though! I just knew he studied physics. I imagine Imperial students are hugely grateful for the Royal College of Music being close by. 😂

    • @zebj16
      @zebj16 Před 2 lety +2

      @@BaresEatBeats (Latin, ha, "Romans go home", wrote another Brian of the Python kind - he had a bit of trouble too...) I was there early '80s, long after May - South Kensington & the Sloane Ranger set were "easy pickings" for an oik from Norff Lundun - then again I sure I was their "bit of rough" before they settled down at Daddy's estate, there were some very posh girls with very "interesting" attitudes & I certainly had too many hormones to resist. Then came AIDS, I guess I was very lucky (unlike Mr. Bulsara)! Everything changed then - now, today another virus...

  • @MrDunkycraig
    @MrDunkycraig Před 2 lety +1

    Hi there, school uniform here is a norm here. It slacked of in my secondary school days around 81-88. We stopped wearing ties and blazers, and things became very unregimented during that period which had teacher strikes. Yet when my kids started school around 2001/2 uniforms had become the norm even in primary schools i.e. elementary. By the time my eldest started secondary in 08 the full blazer/tie smart shoes thing was back in fashion.
    I always felt it was a good thing uniform as it made everyone the same and less bullying for kids who didnt have as much money as others did. The only issue was the rising cost of school branded uniform, with crests,mottos and such which were only available from one or possibly two shops. It drove costs up a great deal to the point where a uk law had to be introduced to minimise the costs for parents. Kids will go through a pair of trousers/pants quickly. Mine did anyway playing footie in the playground. You could at that time buy a pair of trousers for 2-5 quid/pounds, but it became double that with branded clothing!
    I was a school governor for six years at my sons primary, which was in an area of part wealth but also deprivation so costs were a huge factor for most parents. My own thoughts on our education system are that in part its very good, but to many big problems bring it down. Our comprehensive system brought down attainment especially at the higher end, and Tony Blairs aim of 50% of the children to go to university has caused a lot of societal issues we now face. With manual jobs being seen as below people despite them being fundamental to everyday life. My ex wife had family in Maine who were teachers one was the high school principle and we stayed with them one summer for our annual holiday. The place was wonderful ive never seen so many trees before. He took us round the school and it was far better than we had near us at the time. Its a different outlook yet the same. Although general knowledge and knowledge of other countries did seem lacking but in all a very good experience

  • @rogoth01themasterwizard11

    to give you a bit of a run down of the key differences:
    English schooling:
    Primary school:
    Nursery (age 3-4)
    Reception (age 4-5)
    Year 1 (age 5-6)
    Year 2 (age 6-7)
    Year 3 (age 7-8)
    Year 4 (age 8-9)
    Year 5 (age 9-10)
    Year 6 (age 10-11)
    Secondary school:
    Year 7 (age 11-12)
    Year 8 (age 12-13)
    Year 9 (age 13-14)
    Year 10 (age 14-15)
    Year 11 (age 15-16)
    Year 12 (age 16-17)
    Year 13 (age 17-18)
    year 12+13 until somewhat recently were 'elective' but as of a recent law passed by the government all schooling is now mandatory until the age of 18 in the UK, something to note here regarding year 12+13 is that it can differ depending on where you go to receive this education, most people will attend a '6th form' which is a college attached to a secondary school, or, you can attend and independent college and receive your final 2 years education there, so if someone mentions 'when they were in 6th form' it's just referring to the final 2 years of mandatory education and they likely attended it at the same secondary school they attended while they were in Year group 7 through 11.
    after the age of 18 you will then go on to either conclude your education there and look to join the workforce or go into higher education which would be University (what you guys call College), there's also apprenticeships which is a qualification you work towards while working on the job, for example an electrician or plumber would apprenticeship would spend a few days a week in a college doing written work and coursework while spending the rest of the week working for a partnered company to get hands on training and experience of the job role.

  • @gayledarlington-shaw5305

    Also secondary school is often referred to as high school in Uk… just to add more confusion

  • @dinger40
    @dinger40 Před 2 lety +1

    When I went to school it was Nursery > 4, Infants 4-8, Juniors 8-11,Seniors 11-15/16 + (optional) 6th form College or Grammar School11-17/18.

  • @SteveSmallMusic
    @SteveSmallMusic Před 2 lety +7

    Maths is called maths simply because it is the shortened form of "mathematics" with an "s", not "mathematic".
    You study mathematics = you study maths

  • @Payne2view
    @Payne2view Před 2 lety +14

    I've been subscribed to Lawrence's channel for a while. He can be quite entertaining in a dry way.
    It is called Maths because it is short for "Math(ematic)s".

  • @user-TROOPER42
    @user-TROOPER42 Před 2 lety +1

    Basically nursery is 3-5 reception year 5-6 yr1 6-7 yr2 7-8 yr3 8-9 etc up to yr12, yr13 or aka 6th form is up to 18

  • @octaviussludberry9016
    @octaviussludberry9016 Před 2 lety +5

    In addition to state and public schools, we also have private or independent schools, which are also paid for and don't have to follow the national curriculum.

    • @Hiforest
      @Hiforest Před 2 lety

      They take the same exams as the mainstream schools, they must teach the curriculum.

    • @ffotograffydd
      @ffotograffydd Před 2 lety +1

      @@Hiforest Public/private/independent schools do not have to teach the National Curriculum, but most choose to, especially if their chosen examinations are GCSEs and A’levels.

    • @Hiforest
      @Hiforest Před 2 lety +1

      @@ffotograffydd I'm in Scotland - I'm pretty sure they've always been the same exams here regardless of the school being private or state run, I didn't realise it was different elsewhere in the UK until my friend Google clued me in on IGCSES lol.

    • @ffotograffydd
      @ffotograffydd Před 2 lety

      @@Hiforest I’m in Wales, there are differences in the four different countries, but this video is specifically about schools in England where private schools don’t have to follow the National Curriculum. It makes sense to follow it if they are following the GCSE and A’level route, but less so if they are teaching for the International Baccalaureate.

    • @wessexdruid5290
      @wessexdruid5290 Před 2 lety

      And we used to have Direct Grant Schools - which a Labour government abolished, significantly reducing social mobility. 😞

  • @gcarr1089
    @gcarr1089 Před rokem +1

    When I was younger a long time ago you could leave school in England at 16 or stay on and do further education, I hated school so I left. On my last 2 years of school uniforms were introduced and also anyone ( who's parents who could afford it) could use a calculator in an exam. (A simple calculator was very expensive and out of a normal persons range unlike today).

  • @helenwood8482
    @helenwood8482 Před 2 lety +1

    I was being beaten up every day at school. I was grateful that the uniform meant that they at least could not bully me about my clothes.

  • @keithweelands5822
    @keithweelands5822 Před 2 lety +2

    Being a more mature chap in England the schooling was a little different. Ages 4 -6 infant school categorised as years 1 -3 no uniform. Ages 7 - 10 junior school years 1- 4. Ages 11 - 16 senior school years 1 - 5 wearing uniform, years 4 and 5 you sit your O levels (o for ordinary). Aged 16 you had a choice leave school altogether or stay on at 6th year and do your A levels (A for advanced), or go to technical college and study a vocation. From there you could advance onto university for 3 yearschoose your specialised subject at the start and no swapping.

  • @cgmat7804
    @cgmat7804 Před 2 lety +5

    The School Uniform in Britain is good for the following reasons; Standard priced and look avoids pupils turning up in "expensive trainers" and starting that "I'm richer than you chat" Secondly it reflects the Heritage and location of the school and something pupils can be proud of, thirdly it looks smart, well in the first week photograph at least

    • @cajunseasoning1846
      @cajunseasoning1846 Před 2 lety

      Copied from a comment i replied to earlier:
      Except it didnt work because uniforms are ridiculously expensive and poorer families resorted to buying uniforms too big for children that they'd grow into. Besides, kids will find any way to differ from eachother in any way possible, a uniform wouldn't stop rich kids bullying or separating themselves from poorer kids. Either it was the smartphones, weekly allowance, shoes, bags, haircuts, latest cool trend, people would find a way regardless. So no, the superior and infeior crap was not eliminated in one swipe. Less wealthy families were only forced to spend more money on poor fitting clothes and shoes instead of wearing what they had and schools mad it absolutely bs hell about what you wore and punished you for it not being acceptable enough. 'the tights are too transparant' 'trousers are too tight' (even though it was fine for others to wear it for some reason). And we were forced to buy MORE CLOTHES that realistically shouldnt have been an issue.
      And there was nothing 'smart' about turning up to class in the summer heat in a mandatory blazer and shirt every day when you look like a visibly sweating trash bag. And my uniform was entirely all black.

  • @Westcountrynordic
    @Westcountrynordic Před 2 lety +2

    Funny story about the school I went to ,in the UK, which was next to a large wooded area. As part of the uniform we used to wear green jumper(sweater) or sweatshirt, which meant of course if you jumped over the fence and into the wooded area you got lost in the greenery. The first thing a new Head teacher( principal) did was change the colour of the jumper/sweatshirt to a very bright red so that those who jumped over the fence were easy spotted. Of course you could take your red top off but then your white shirt would also stand out.

  • @ltrtg13
    @ltrtg13 Před 2 lety

    When I went to school. Primary school was also divided into Infants school 5 to 7 years of age and Junior school which was 7 to 11 years of age. The UK school uniforms are also mostly purchased through curtain shops. Resulting in parents complaining about the higher than normal prices.

  • @grahvis
    @grahvis Před 2 lety +1

    Back when I was at school there was an exam called the Eleven Plus. If you passed you went to a grammar school where the education was more academic, if not you went to secondary school, education there being more practical.
    The problem with it was that failing the exam was regarded by many as the student being a failure rather than going to a school which might best meet their needs.

    • @jenniedarling3710
      @jenniedarling3710 Před 2 lety

      Also if it left little room for improvement. When I was 11 I was way behind the rest of my year group but I made big improvements at secondary school and was more of a mid range student (5 C at GCSE).

    • @wessexdruid5290
      @wessexdruid5290 Před 2 lety

      So the solution was seen as bundling everyone together of all abilities, in 'comprehensives'. 😞 Rather than the brighter kids pulling the others up, the reverse was inevitable.

  • @thisisnev
    @thisisnev Před 2 lety +13

    Advance congratulations for your anniversary on Tuesday!
    To clear up one point, the term "sixth form" is a leftover from when I went to school (dodging dinosaurs on the way). Each year of secondary school was numbered; from the first form to the fifth form we studied a wide range of subjects, culminating in exams at the age of 16. After this, you either stay on at school in the sixth form, where you specialise in fewer subjects at A-(advanced-) level, or go to an FE (further education) college; these generally offer more vocational study. To add to the confusion, these are sometimes called 'sixth form colleges' and may also offer A-levels!

  • @Ingens_Scherz
    @Ingens_Scherz Před 2 lety +3

    The "math/maths" (and "sport"/"sports") thing: see "Made In America" by the incomparable Bill Bryson. He knows!

  • @clarelawton4653
    @clarelawton4653 Před 2 lety +3

    Nursery from age 3, reception the year you turn five, year 1 the year you turn six, etc, high school year 7 the year you turn 12, year 11 the year you turn sixteen, then college next for two years (or 6th form, Lower and upper sixth, also known as years 12 and 13), university after that at 18+, (sixth form is so called because previously years seven to eleven were called 1st year up to 5th year, so sixth form followed and has stuck)

  • @iain860
    @iain860 Před 2 lety +3

    Quirks, oddities and differences... You are both so wonderful 🥰
    Beautiful almost comes close to describing you individually but together... ? Much Love, much kudos 💕❤️

  • @rebeccacondon1729
    @rebeccacondon1729 Před 2 lety +1

    My primary school age 5 to 11, there was no uniform. My secondary school was navy blue skirt, blazer, jumper, white shirt and red and blue tie. Girls and boys wore a tie. There were also rules to follow on skirt length and shoes worn. As I'm older I did a mix of CSEs and O'levels at 16. My school did not have a sixth form so I went to college to do my A'levels, no uniform required here.

  • @billydonaldson6483
    @billydonaldson6483 Před 2 lety +1

    In England you can start full time school at the age of four if your birthday is before the new school year in September. My eldest grandson was born in August so he was able to attend school at the age of 4. My other grandson was born in October so he had to wait until the following year to start full time school.

  • @achillesStar
    @achillesStar Před 2 lety +3

    I think the 6th Form needs a little more clarification as it doesn't really make sense even in England. However, historically before there was a year 1 to 13, the numbering system started again once you went to secondary school at the age of 11. So the 1st year in secondary school was called the 1st year (I know crazy!) this continued until the 5th year at the end of which you had finished your mandatory education. In those days the majority of kids left school to hopefully get an apprenticeship with an employer and earn a living. Those with higher aspirations, especially if they wanted to go to University, could continue their education and go on to 6th form and take their A-Levels. The 6th form lasts two years divided into upper and lower 6th (no 7th year). Many schools did not have a 6th form. In my 6th form we had kids who come from schools with no 6th form. As time went on more pupils wanted to take A-levels in order to gain entry to University and so 6th form colleges started to open up. So you could ether go on to 6th form at your school (if it had one) or go to a 6th Form college.

    • @gillianrimmer7733
      @gillianrimmer7733 Před 2 lety

      And the word "form" refers back to the Victorian era, and before, where everyone was taught in one huge schoolroom. The pupils sat in rowa, on forms (benches) according to age - with the youngest in the front ( first form) working backwards to the eldest on the sixth form.

  • @PCDratt
    @PCDratt Před 2 lety +2

    It's a little less complicated here in Ireland. Pre-school or Montessori followed by Primary School starting with Junior Infants then Senior Infants and on to First Class and finishes at Sixth Class at approximately age 12. Moving on to Secondary School with First to Sixth Years with Fourth Year being optional. Students usually finish school at 17 or 18 years of age. Then on to University or College if you want to continue your education.
    I had to wear a uniform to school. Hated it! My navy Primary School one was somewhat better than my bottle green Secondary one. What irritated me most was having to wear a skirt. Girls were not allowed to wear trousers back in my day. The students even went on strike later on in my time there because it was so cold in some of the classrooms that the girls wanted trousers!

  • @awall1701
    @awall1701 Před 2 lety +2

    At the primary and secondary school I attended many, many moons ago, uniforms were mandatory. At my primary school we had to change footwear to something like plimsols to wear inside the school.

  • @smockboy
    @smockboy Před 2 lety +39

    In theory, uniforms were supposed to cut down on bullying by making it less obvious who the poor kids were based on their clothing and to prepare children for the realities of workplace uniforms and dress codes. In practice, though, kids just ended up using other signifiers to signify that they were wealthy like designer brand name bags, the latest football boots, or something as simple as how regularly their uniforms were replaced. It's still relatively easy for kids to work out who the poor kids were by ill-fitting, hand-me-down uniforms and 'cheap' footwear and bags so it never really cut down bullying as were intended. In reality, though, while anti-bullying measures, the symbolism that they're all equals, and preparation for the realities of employment are still presented as the primary arguments for school uniform, the truth is that its just a way for schools to supplement their funding by requiring the purchase of monogrammed blazers, jumpers, ties, etc. made all the more obvious by the fact that secondary schools/high schools in particular tend to alter their uniform specifications every five years or so you can't just keep your eldest's high school uniforms for when your youngest moves up from primary.

    • @davidhughes4089
      @davidhughes4089 Před 2 lety +3

      Spot on you've nailed my experience of school.

    • @smockboy
      @smockboy Před 2 lety

      @@deeperanddown It most certainly isn't bollocks, friend, though it may well depend on the country and/or county you live in the UK. My brother-in-law owns a shop that specialises in monogrammed uniforms (for businesses as well as schools) - every so many years he bids for the exclusive rights to produce and sell monogrammed blazers, monogrammed school ties, and monogrammed polo shirts for the 4 primary schools and one high school in the town that we live in. Given that I'm certain that that is the case in my hometown, its reasonable to assume that a similar practice is taking place in other towns and cities in my county at the very least. Now, true, without doing a Freedom of Information request I can't be certain that the amount he bids goes to the schools - but it most certainly goes to the Local Authority, so by assuming it goes towards school funding I'm essentially giving them the benefit of the doubt. I'd be mighty annoyed to discover it was being used for something else.

    • @Hannah-pk6iq
      @Hannah-pk6iq Před 2 lety +1

      Unless you were poor and had to wear 'hand me downs'. Coming from a family of 9 in Liverpool, my uniform NEVER EVER fitted.

    • @davidcook7887
      @davidcook7887 Před 2 lety +1

      Jonathan that is complete crap. I went to a home counties grammar school. Very posh and very poor all together. The uniforms, sold in shops, eliminated any talk of better than you, no one knew who got free school meals or handmedowns. What state school was it that you went to that made money out of ‘monogrammed blazers’? What absolute bollocks!

    • @smockboy
      @smockboy Před 2 lety

      @@davidcook7887 Sure, your experience completely nullifies mine. Sure, your assumptions completely trump my actual knowledge by being related to someone who actually bids for the rights to produce those uniforms. As for "what state school was it that you went to that made money out of 'monogrammed blazers' - I'm not about to dox myself just to satisfy some rando on the internet but I both my primary school and high school were Welsh state schools and both uniforms had blazers - supposedly so that their uniforms didn't mark them out as lower class than the academies and private schools in the area and as a "school pride" thing. I recognise that your experience may have varied, but there's no need to be an asshole about it.

  • @davidhughes4089
    @davidhughes4089 Před 2 lety +13

    What I don't understand about America is how home schooling is seen as normal. How can a parent cover all of the subjects that you need multiple teachers for?
    It seems like a way for religious families to keep their children ignorant of the wider world and when you hear about the worst cases of child abuse it's often homeschooling which has been used to keep the abuse hidden. Obviously these are an extremely small proportion of homeschoolers but I still don't see how it will produce a better developed child than sending them to a school where they have the chances to mix with other kids.

    • @stevenjohnson4190
      @stevenjohnson4190 Před 2 lety +1

      in the uk the law is simple, take your child home and educate them.
      the law does not specify HOW or WHAT you teach your child, as long as they are given a suitable education. the law doesnt specify what a suitable education is, either.

    • @andyp5899
      @andyp5899 Před 2 lety

      @@michaelmay5453 Stephen Johnson wasn't talking about the US

    • @Thebigbluemeany
      @Thebigbluemeany Před 2 lety

      @@michaelmay5453 Homeschooling is not all that well regulated in England. Quite a small number of children (less than 1% of the school aged population) are registered as homeschooled though, although we're talking about figures from pre-pandemic here so things might have got more complex. In a pre-COVID homeschooling frame of reference though, theres no legal requirement to follow any particular framework or teach any particular subjects. Most home schooled children DO follow the framework and sit the exams kids in school do, just because it's easier that way - but there's no requirement from the government that they do so, and no one comes to check educational provision at home is adequate.
      The government and local councils quite readily admit they don't even have accurate numbers of the kids who are being homeschooled. If you're interested in a detailed overview, this is quite good: researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN05108/SN05108.pdf

  • @DavidCookeZ80
    @DavidCookeZ80 Před 2 lety +1

    As a child of the mid sixties my experience of the English school year naming was perplexing. Ages 3 & 4 was playschool. At 5 we went to infants for two years (ages 5 & 6), then to junior school (age 7, which was the same physical building as the infant school). That year I was sent to do my first exam for entrance into the local public (ie. fee-paying school) which to my surprise I passed.
    So from age 8 I went to a new (to me, the school dated from 1545) junior school and the next three years were called "transition", "lower prep", and "upper prep". The day was now divided into periods, with one subject (English, maths, history, geography, art, music, and later French). The kids mostly stayed put in one room, but different teachers came in for different subjects.
    Age 11 I went to the senior school (same school, but a different area) and started in Form 1 (at least that made some sense). General Science, Latin, and Religious Education were added to the subjects. While we still had a form room, we now had to move between rooms for different lessons: some were for obvious reasons like science and art, but others seemed arbitrary as neither teacher or pupils stayed in one place. There were no lockers, so all books and so on had to be lugged about in your bag. The next years were Form 2 and Form 3 (sensible!) and then had to choose, at age 13, which subjects we were to study for O-levels ('O' for ordinary).
    At age 14 and in Form 4 we were joined by publis from the local preparatory school (wait, didn't we do "prep" in junior school?). Prep schools covered ages 7 to 13. At the time "tests" were just an test done in class, and were largely consequence free, all that would matter is the one "exam" for each subject at the end of fifth form. There were also "mocks" which were old exam papers taken under exam conditions during lesson time.
    Exam results determined what happened next: join the "lower sixth" at that school to study for A-levels (A for Advanced) with a view to a University place, go to a separate Sixth-form college (with the same aims), go to a techincal college (to learn a vocational trade), or enter the workforce.
    Sixth form was divided into "lower sixth" (age 16) and "upper sixth" (age 17). Why not six and seven? I've no idea. We studied just three subject for exams, but there were also other subjects (not examined) you had to choose from. I remember "black culture" (their words) being one of the more interesting. We also got free periods (sorry, study periods) where we could hang out in the sixth form centre which had couches, a kettle, and a toaster or catch up on unfinished home work (or slope off into town or the park if it was near lunchtime).
    There was no "graduation" at the end of A-levels (we weren't graduates with degrees after all). Rather, after making a coffee in the sixth form centre, we were just told to leave the premises.

  • @damodavies9273
    @damodavies9273 Před 2 lety +1

    In the UK children can leave School at 16 after year 11. Sixth form is year 12 and optional year 13. It is call sixth form if you "stay on" at your High School or you can take the same courses in a local College.

  • @ericbatemanrodgers
    @ericbatemanrodgers Před 2 lety +1

    I live in England I left school aged 15 and started working 3 days after leaving

  • @mathiasosiriswoodhal
    @mathiasosiriswoodhal Před 2 lety +4

    Lol loving the pink floyd lyrics at beginning lovee it and happy anniversary ladies xx loving your videos xxx much lovee from thee UK 🇬🇧

  • @-TomH
    @-TomH Před 2 lety +2

    I'm 28 now and my secondary school meaning years 7-11 ( I would have been 12-17 years old).. was actually a science college too, meaning the high school specialised in science, I also done wood work, cooking & textiles along with music, maths, English, geography, French, English & arts. We also had a swimming pool on site built for P.E we had our own football pitch too the school was HUGEEEEEE!! & also done six form as he mentioned so an extra 2 years if you wanted then go to university. My school has since been knocked down and rebuilt even bigger when I was there it had about 1300 pupils now about 2100.
    Ps. I also had to wear shoes, trousers, shirt, tie & blazer. I think that's to learn discipline from a young age, the girls also worn that but in the summer months they was allowed a skirt below the knee only.

  • @scifirocks
    @scifirocks Před rokem +1

    I think class sizes must have gone up since he went to school, it was always 30+ when I was at school in the UK (1991-2005)

  • @damedusa5107
    @damedusa5107 Před 2 lety +2

    The modern view, not the original reason. But why it continues is , Uniforms are used to promote equality, everyone is the same. Because rich kids would clearly stand out compared to poor kids. Having a uniform is an attempt to stop bullying because you haven’t got the latest trainers or expensive jeans etc.

  • @ameliam7292
    @ameliam7292 Před 2 lety

    I went to an infant and a junior school. Infant was from reception to year 2 (4-7) and junior was from year 3 to year 6 (7-11).

  • @charlottehollands9070
    @charlottehollands9070 Před 2 lety +2

    My education was a little bit different as I went to a Grammar School in year 7 as opposed to a state school. It is still a state funded school, but I had to take an exam called the 11+ in year 6 in order get a place in the school. I was really proud of myself for getting in! Only my parents moved to Hampshire whilst I was in year 7 so I had to move to a normal state school. There are very few Grammars left in the UK, but they still exist all over Kent which is where I'm from (and moved back to :-)).

  • @andyleighton3616
    @andyleighton3616 Před 2 lety +5

    When I was at school, we did our O levels (the predecessor of GCSEs) I then went into the sixth form at the same school. We still had to wear the uniform although we could use a sixth form tie - which marked us out as sixth formers. Everyone even had school approved sports tops for PE and sports. As well as the lower school being separated by year we also had a house system (yep a bit like Harry Potter). Finally my school was all boys when I started, although by the time I got to the sixth form some girls were being admitted to the sixth form - I think there were 2 girls out of approx 90 pupils in the sixth form.

  • @KattyKitty66
    @KattyKitty66 Před 2 lety +3

    As an American who went through the British school system, it can be confusing, but I find the American schooling system very confusing, I know both, I find it weird when I watch an American drama about school I just think OMG they are so old! I was going steady in what you would call 12th grade!!!??

  • @dianeknight4839
    @dianeknight4839 Před rokem +1

    Maths is a shortened version of the word Mathematics, Debbie was right in her analysis. In my day UK education was different. You started at Primary school aged 5 to 9, then junior school up to age 11 when you sat the 11plus exam which determined whether you went to a high school or secondary modern. I went to a secondary modern which I was pleased about as the high schools were all single sex schools. Kids who were of the Catholic faith all went to a Catholic school, if your parents were regular protestant church goers they could request that you go to a church school, but they were few. School leaving age was 15 but you could stay on to 6th grade (an extra year) if you were bright enough, My old secondary school was demolished to make way for a new one on the same site but upgraded, it still had the same name for a while. Things have changed yet again in the last 20yrs now all the high schools (11-18) are called Academies.

  • @FenderTele
    @FenderTele Před 2 lety +2

    Greetings happy anniversary! I can remember my uniform from 1st form to Upper 6th. We wore grey flannel trousers, white shirts with a tie and blazer. The tie always had to be worn at all times it was like the world was ending if you didn't have the tie on!

  • @infamyinfamy
    @infamyinfamy Před 2 lety

    In the UK, Reception year (the school year you turn 5 within) is mandatory. Nursery is optional.

  • @DrDaveW
    @DrDaveW Před 2 lety +4

    Pupils and students is interchangeable in the UK as well now. Laurence is incredibly knowledgeable but you have to remember thar he’s lived in the US for a long time now and some things have changed. Notably that we are starting to use some American English terminology.

    • @stevenjohnson4190
      @stevenjohnson4190 Před 2 lety +1

      my friends child says "zee" instead of "zed" and she doesnt understand why she is wrong.

    • @blotski
      @blotski Před 2 lety +2

      @@stevenjohnson4190 It's because so many of the children's things they watch especially on CZcams and Netflix are American. On the other hand, I've heard the popularity of Peppa Pig in America has got some kids over there coming out with 'Britishisms'.

    • @stevenjohnson4190
      @stevenjohnson4190 Před 2 lety

      @@blotski true. growing up in the 1970s all we had was american films and comedy shows etc, and i dont remember americanisms being common. sure, there may have been times when there were americanisms.
      thanks for the reply

  • @dale897
    @dale897 Před 2 lety +1

    It's very simple: nursery 2 years(technically optional) then go to primary school starting in reception then go through year 1-6, then go to high school/secondary school (we use both interchangeably), high school is year 7-11, at this point you are 16 and can leave school. Then you can go to sixthform for 2 years also known as year 12 and 13 these are sometimes within the school its self, and sometimes there may be a sixthform college where the students are all in sixthform and not mixed with the high school. You also have the option at 16 if you don't go to sixthform to either go and find a job which isn't as common as it used to be, or go to college this is more a kin to trade school in the US but also different as you can take a very wide variety of courses for qualifications in job that don't need a degree to do, such as most labour jobs, hair dressing/barber and catering ect ect ect. So if you do go to sixthform, after you finish your 2 years you can go to university and carry on your education, and you can get into university from some colleges too if the course/courses you took can lead to a university education.

  • @nickname6747
    @nickname6747 Před 2 lety

    I went to school predominantly in the 80s - giving away my age here. At that time we had playgroup (ages 2-3), nursery (3-4), first school (4-9), middle school (9-13), and grammar school (13-16 or 18 if you stayed on to 6th form). This was replaced in the 90s with the system in the video. Sixth form (2 years - upper and lower) is a throwback reference to when school years were numbered 1 to 5 for ages 11 to 16 when you took your GCSEs (known as O Levels pre 1988) and moved into 6th form to do A Levels or equivalent or left school to get a job. Thanks for uploading. Interesting to learn more about US education system rather than just picking bits up from films and TV.

  • @chocoilike
    @chocoilike Před 2 lety

    Hi ladies. I work in a primary school as a teaching assistant ( think you call them teacher's aides) I am currently working in reception year so the children are 4/5 years old. I love my job and find it it very satisfying. I too could never get my head around your school sytem, now I k is it's just a year behind us.
    Enjoyed this video. Have a great anniversary week.

  • @billiespence2511
    @billiespence2511 Před 2 lety +1

    !! In the 1970"s you could be expelled for not wearing your tie under a crew neck jumper and having top button of your shirt undone !! Uniform represents your school if in uniform and out side of school hours and you are reprimanded your expelled !!! You are still not allowed to not wear your blazer tie etc : expulsion straight away in the UK

  • @sheenamaclean8324
    @sheenamaclean8324 Před rokem +1

    I think the term 'public school' is not as common as it used to be and is now more commonly called private school or boarding school.

  • @macconchradha5324
    @macconchradha5324 Před 2 lety +1

    In Ireland it goes pre school (1 year), primary school junior infants senior infants and then 1st class to 6th class each class a school year. then secondary which goes from 1st year to 6th year with exams at the end of each 3 years ,then you can go off to collage/uni etc

  • @skasteve6528
    @skasteve6528 Před 2 lety +2

    Uniforms are intended to eliminate differences between rich & poor pupils. It also develops ingenuity, encouraging pupils to push the boundaries as much as possible, without actually breaking the rules.
    Graduation is also different. Passing your GCSE's & A-levels, does not warrant a graduation (although meeting up with your friends at a pub & getting wasted, is acceptable), that is saved for when you achieve a degree.
    In the past, there were three further education routes, after school.
    Colleges, often run by local councils, where you could learn anything, such as: hairdressing, car mechanics, catering, design, business studies, etc. You could also take A-levels, if you needed to improve your grades to get into university. These colleges also doubled as adult education centres for workers who needed certifivates, to advance in their trade, and also for people who just wanted to learn just for the pleasure of learning.
    Next, were Polytechnics. Similar to a university, but without the cache. These attracted people, who had passed their A levels, but didn't have the required grades to get into a top university. Also, people who didn't want to travel & live on the other side of the country. Polytechnics had a very good reputation for producing engineers. Although a degree from a polytechnic is the same as one from a university, snobbery meant that you had to attend a certain university, to be accepted in certain fields.
    Finally, you had Universities, where they churned out classics scholars, doctors, lawyers, Rugby Union players etc. They were also useful for minor royals to achieve a degree in Art History.
    Sadly, these days, nearly all of these are classed as universities, although the snobbery has not gone away

    • @allenwilliams1306
      @allenwilliams1306 Před 2 lety

      There are the two universities, other proper universities, pretend universities, ex-polythechnics, ex-colleges of higher education, and the University of Derby.

    • @wessexdruid5290
      @wessexdruid5290 Před 2 lety

      @@allenwilliams1306 Like he said - the snobbery hasn't gone away..

  • @jameshumphreys9715
    @jameshumphreys9715 Před 2 lety

    In wales, you go from Primary and comprehensive/secondary in England you have middle, high school end sixth form college.

  • @andyp5899
    @andyp5899 Před 2 lety +1

    It's called Sixth form because of the old naming system. Years in secondary school (11yo - 16 yo) were numbered from First to Sixth
    The full word Mathematic(s) thus is assumed to be plural so short form also should end in "S"
    Education in the 19th century was not universal. People who could afford personal tutors was private education. Public schools were open to anyone who could afford the school fees. The rest received little or no formal education. Many worked from a very early age.

  • @MrNathansdad
    @MrNathansdad Před 2 lety +1

    Attended school in a Commonwealth country that's very close to the US, sooooooo... we had years, wore uniforms, learned maths, took exams, our own version of the gcse (bgcse), but also SAT and ACT and AP classes.

  • @martingibbs1179
    @martingibbs1179 Před 2 lety +2

    My understanding in England is that nursery school is elective and is a form of day care. Most will do nursery at least a little to start socialising children. Reception year is mandatory and is designed to transition children from a play environment to a more formal class environment. I don't remember getting a "play time" in year 1.

  • @terryloveuk
    @terryloveuk Před 2 lety +1

    As a 68 year old things were a little different but you can map it onto the current system/naming
    * Infant school: - 4/5 y.o. (depending on what part of the year you were born and the start of the school year) to 8 y.o. Then move on to ...
    * Junior School : - up to 11 y.o. (in my case it meant going to a different school, but some schools it was just a different building) where the focus was starting to get more "academic". In my day at 11 there was an exam called 11+ (Eleven Plus) to determine the next stage, those who passed went to "Grammar Schools" and those that didn't went to "Secondary Modern Schools".
    * Secondary Schools (both Grammar and Secondary Modern): - 1st - 5th years. In the 5th year (or 5th form) kids would do exams (GCE - General Certificate of Education, now I think GCSE - General Certificate of Secondary Education) called "O Levels" - the O is for Ordinary, as in expected basic level.
    The theory was secondary modern schools could/would work to get those kids more help to progress. In practice, often less so and the focus for many was getting them ready leave school and join the workforce or apprenticeships at 16. Those that did catch up could go on and join the 6th forms (upper and lower 6th) at a grammar school to do "A Levels" - The A was for Advanced. The A-Levels were in a selected subset of subjects aimed towards a choice of study at University and potentially future career.
    Grammar schools were more focused on academics for kids that showed early aptitude and (in theory) could progress faster earlier and with less "help". This wasn't always the case but... theory - Grammar schools also had 1st - 5th years (1st - 5th forms) and again took O-Levels in the 5th, possibly in more subjects. Kids might still leave at 16 but many would continue on into the 6th form (Lower and Upper) until 18, take selected A-Levels towards applying to Universities.
    That all changed a bit and my Grammar school transitioned into a 6th Form College and stopped taking 1st year intake shortly after I entered. It then focused on the A-Levels and those taking an academic path towards University entrance.
    I'm not sure about currently, (I'm single, no kids so I haven't paid much attention), but I think now it's required for full time education to continue to 18 y.o. and there are colleges catering for vocational and technical training for those not looking at the academic path.
    I think both sides of the pond politicians and "educational theorists" keep messing and tinkering with things, not all of these changes lead to improvements in the level of "education" children get and confuse the hell out of parents and kids alike and probably stress out teachers who have to try and make things work.

  • @Paul-pc2le
    @Paul-pc2le Před 2 lety +5

    I loved watching your lastest reaction, very funny. Brian May did attend Imperial college, I guess you found that out during the video. Please do part 2. Happy anniversary to you both this week. I'll be checking in on Wednesday to watch your next reaction.

  • @loismccormack2485
    @loismccormack2485 Před 2 lety +2

    As a Brit, I love watching you two 😊

  • @leewright8094
    @leewright8094 Před 2 lety +4

    Ironically, "public school" means a private school in England

  • @samantha6054
    @samantha6054 Před 2 lety

    pre-school 3 years - 4 years. Primary school - they start the September after their 4th birthday, so 4 years to 11 years old, secondary school 11- 16 years, college 16+.

  • @BazzSelby
    @BazzSelby Před 2 lety +1

    It was much simpler, in my day! My school years started when I was 4, from 1965 -1977, and there was no such thing as pre-school. It was Infant school (from age 4-8yrs), Junior/Middle school (from 8-12yrs), and Senior School (from 12-16yrs). And Math's is short for Mathematics, obviously! :o) x

  • @RG-Zeldaplayer
    @RG-Zeldaplayer Před 2 lety +1

    To recap...
    The UK education system starts with a pre-school - This is not mandatory but like the US its generally expected. This is for ages 3-4. We refer to this as either a nursery, a play-group or a pre-school.
    Then from ages 4-11 we have Primary School. The first year is usually called Reception, but some schools call it Nursery (It varies by area and what the pre-school services are called near each school.) Then age 5-6 is year one, 6-7 is year two etc. up until year 6.
    From age 11 to 16 we have Secondary Schools. These are called various things such as colleges, academies, comprehensives or high schools. These are all names for the same thing - 5 years of education with each year numbered as "year 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11." (They are also sometimes referred to as "forms" numbered 1-5)
    At the end of year 9 of secondary school (Aged 14) you choose around 10 subjects to study for your GCSEs (This stands for General Certificate of Education). Years 10 and 11 (Age 14 - 16) is when you study these subjects culminating in your GCSE exams.
    At 16 you can leave school in the UK - however, you must be enrolled in some form of further education until aged 18 - this could be a vocational qualification such as a modern apprenticeship, or it could be further academic study such as A-levels.
    A-Levels (Or advanced levels) are seperated into a further two years of study. These are mostly studied at a seperate "6th form college" however increasingly many secondary schools also have 6th forms attached to them. These two years are seperated into "Lower Sixth" and "Upper Sixth". At the end of both of these years there are exams. At the end of your lower sixth year you take an AS level exam (Advanced subsidiary exam) - this is a qualification in its own right, but most students will convert them to a full A-level in their Upper sixth year by taking an A2 exam. Most students will study 3 or 4 A-Levels.
    This ends formal education - however you can then attend higher education at University. (Equivalent of US college) - Where you can study for a degree.

  • @tracybrowne7019
    @tracybrowne7019 Před 2 lety +3

    I watched him do a Maths GCSE and A level. Excellent Must watch!

  • @emmaleemadsen21
    @emmaleemadsen21 Před 2 lety +1

    When I was at school in Northern Ireland uk, it was nursery, primary school, secondary school, then further education

    • @TheNatashaDebbieShow
      @TheNatashaDebbieShow  Před 2 lety +1

      That was a simple explanation!

    • @emmaleemadsen21
      @emmaleemadsen21 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheNatashaDebbieShow I started nursery at age 4 to age 5, then in primary school age 6 to age 10, then in secondary school age 11 to age 16
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Northern_Ireland

  • @andreajarvis4299
    @andreajarvis4299 Před 2 lety +1

    My secondary school class was at last 30, although that was the 80s..

  • @kevinrussell2718
    @kevinrussell2718 Před 2 lety +1

    When I was at school, I was taught that all numeric problems were algebra.
    Happy Anniversary for Tuesday.

    • @wessexdruid5290
      @wessexdruid5290 Před 2 lety

      So what then is arithmetic? Surely algebra always involves the use of symbols.

    • @kevinrussell2718
      @kevinrussell2718 Před 2 lety

      @@wessexdruid5290 Algebra uses exactly the same processes as arithmetic: addition; subtraction; mutliplication and division.

  • @Gunner-11
    @Gunner-11 Před rokem

    I was in nursery when I was 3, then reception, then year 1 to 6 is primary school from ages 5-11 (depending on date of birth) then years 7 to 11 were secondary school from ages 11-16. Then college, then university.

  • @jackytyler4159
    @jackytyler4159 Před 2 lety +2

    I always hated my bottle green uniform, even bottle green knickers, but there again I hated school, full stop, it's like a prison, you have to do the time, I spent most of my time playing truant, or wagging it as we called it, and when folk say your school year's are the best, I just think what planet you on,but that was my opinion,loved the rubber joke, 😆

  • @CEP73
    @CEP73 Před 2 lety +2

    My first two schools were absolutely amazing ...My first school had 60 pupils in total, my middle school had 120 pupils in total, my secondary school had 1000! I absolutely detested secondary school plus we had a BROWN uniform !! I didn't go to geography lesson for 2 years because I didn't like the teacher, no one noticed!!!

  • @DrDaveW
    @DrDaveW Před 2 lety +1

    When I was at school (born 1972) the years reset when you went to secondary school. So, you were back at year one. However all schools used first year, second year, third year, etc.
    After finishing your GCSEs (our year was the year they were introduced) in the fifth year you could leave. If your school had a “sixth form”for. A Levels you could stay there.
    Confusingly the two years you stayed there were called “lower sixth” and “upper sixth”.

    • @blotski
      @blotski Před 2 lety

      They changed the system of year numbers in about 1988.

    • @DrDaveW
      @DrDaveW Před 2 lety

      @@blotskiSo I was out of the old system by then. Sixth form still used the old terminology

  • @davidhoward5392
    @davidhoward5392 Před 2 lety +1

    Many moons ago you could leave school at 15, I left just after my 16th birthday..

  • @vanessaking4495
    @vanessaking4495 Před 2 lety +6

    Hi ladies you seem to be quite the experts now well done 👍 the video was great hope you have a brilliant anniversary week take care xx❤️