Raglan Road Long Neck Banjo Lesson
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2014
- Pat Kelleher Irish Folksinger from Cork Ireland presents long neck folk banjo lesson for Raglan Road. "C" tuning used here as Luke did : G, C, G, B, D...Here is my interpretation of Luke Kellys famous lick/roll for the great song "Raglan Road". Bear in mind that Luke used his thumb and three fingers for picking. I use the more common thumb and two fingers. T = Thumb, I = Index finger and M = Middle finger. The figures 1 to 5 represent the strings you pick. A full lick sequence is T(3) - I(2) - M(1) - T(5) - M(1) - I(2) - T(4) - I(2) - M(1) - T(5) - M(1) - I(2)..Long Neck Music - All rights reserved - www.longneckmusic.com - CZcams Channel = longneckmusic
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Keeping the old souls alive.thank you.
Excellent playing and singing. Thank you.
Thanks again John
fantastic!!
I love this tuning and songs! I recently bought an older Vega long neck and haven't put it down even my guitars are gathering dust lol. Trying to absorb any songs i can find for this neat instrument. Love your accompaining voice!
Thanks - that's a great roll which I had been trying to figure out for some time but just couldn't get it. Do you know if it's the same roll Luke uses for the intro to The Shoals of Herring?thanks a bunch for sharing this and clarifying the roll pattern...
Yes Richard, to my knowledge as well as the slow verses of Paddy On The Railway. There may be a few more.
Of course, I forgot about "Paddy Works on the Railroad" - a great version by the Dubliners - thanks.....
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Great job. Thanks! How might Luke have played this with his thumb and three fingers? No fifth string? I’ve heard he played in C tuning but I’ve also heard he played in double C. Can you confirm? Do you know where i can go to get more info on his style? Thanks!
Hi Stephen. Not sure about double C. I doubt it, but I could be wrong. I don't think that there is any source of his style. I can easily mimic his thumb and three fingers style, but not as fluently as my thumb and two fingers style. I think his style was inherited from the guy that taught him in England. His style would resemble typical guitar thumb and three fingers folk style and possibly his right hand style that he was taught may have been influenced by English classic 5 string banjo playing.
agree@@patkelleheririshfolksinger these chord formations that Luke plays are definitely standard C, not double C
Forgive my ignorance, but I'm assuming I could play this on a standard 5-string banjo, just perhaps without that beautiful, low tonal quality you get with the longer neck banjos. I am a finger-style guitarist, and that is still more my area of expertise; the banjo has been a new venture, and I'm still very much learning... Mr Kelly brought me here.
+Mark English Would I just need to down-tune the low D string, and play it as you've demonstrated, without a capo?
+Mark English Yes Mark, you are correct if you tune the low D string down to C and then you can play along with me in the key of C. Luke Kelly sang it in D to my knowledge as my voice is getting slightly deeper as I get older. In public performances, I usually play it in C#. Once you get it clean and flowing, you choose the best key for your voice and use the capo accordingly. Thank you for your interest. Slainte, Pat
guy there,i jut bought a 5 string banjo,i luv the luke kelly songs etc,how do i get my timing right i seem to be all over the place,any help is appriciated,steve
Hi Stephen, without being smart, it takes practice and time. If you haven't played another instrument before (e.g. guitar), it will take time...a metronome of some sort will definitely help...Good luck!
At 0.50 seconds, I say third string instead of what should be first string. Follow the lick text below in any case and you'll see what I mean.
+longneckmusic the picking pattern in video shows you picking the 4 string!! is the sequence 321512321542
+f6rider1 My note sequence was incorrect. I've edited it. I must have copied and pasted. Thanks for highlighting. Your suggestion is different also. Here it is: 321512421512
+longneckmusic thanks for reply great video's
Hi should this sequence be T(3) - I(2) - M(1) - T(5) - M(1) - I(2) - T(4) - I(2) - M(1) - T(5) - M(1) - I(2) - the lick sequence above doesn't include the 4th string? (Otherwise, there doesn't appear to be any difference between playing in C or G tuning)It's a great lick though and I had been trying to figure out how Luke did that - thanks!!
Thanks for the heads up...I edited that error before, but it must have reverted back....did it there again.
Hello. Im interested in learning the banjo. Luke kellys music is a main inspiration. What kind of a banjo would be a good purchase?
Thanks.
Hi Shane, it's horses for courses really. Luke played the long neck (25 frets) 5 string for almost his entire career. On e can play most of his material depending on the key that suits your voice on a standard scale (22 frets) 5 string banjo. New long neck banjos range in price from a few hundred to many thousands of dollars/euro. Here are links to a few examples of long necks. Nearly all long neck offerings out there are normally good to play once the set up is good.There are loads of standard scale 5 strings out there used and new. Google for more.
www.hobgoblin.com/local/sales/products/SORLO23428/heartwood-long-neck-5string-banjo-open-back-tone-ring-no-bag-/
www.eaglemusicshop.com/search.asp?q=long+neck
Regards, Pat www.longneckmusic.com
can it be played on guitar the same way?
That's a good question. I haven't tried as of yet, but one could surely work out a similar finger-picking lick I would think.
Could you do a lesson on ‘come me little son’ would be appreciated
I'll try that ASAP...I assume along the lines of Luke's version?
That would be perfect thanks
I could figure out the right hand perfectly by watching this but what are the chords for the left hand?
The banjo is tuned in C tuning G, C, G, B, D. E. Chords use are C, F, G7 and (G occasionally) Example Chord C at 3.16 Example Chord F at 3.29 Example Chord G7 at 3.53 Example Chord G at 5.18
Thank you very much! :)
Paddy Riley?
Great video! Would you be able to share what chords / frets you're pressing for each chord? Thanks in advance!
It is in C tuning....bear this in mind....G, C, G, B, D starting at 5th string. , C chord is index finger on 2nd String at 1st fret and ring finger on 1st string on 2nd fret. G7 chord is 2nd finger on 4th string at 2nd fret and "pinky" finger on 1st string at 3rd fret.. F chord is index finger on 2nd string at 1st fret, middle finger on 3rd string at 2nd fret and "pinky" finger on 1st string at 3rd fret. Strings start with 1st from bottom to top.
C F C F C
On Raglan Road of an autumn day I saw her first and knew
F C G7
That her dark hair would weave a snare that I might one day rue;
F C G7
I saw the danger, and I passed along the enchanted way,
C F D F C
And I said, let grief be a fallen leaf at the dawning of the day.
C F C F G
On Grafton Street in November we tripped lightly along the ledge
F C G7
Of the deep ravine where can be seen the worth of passion's pledge,
F C G7
The Queen of Hearts still making tarts and I not making hay -
C F C F C
Oh I loved too much and by such by such is happiness thrown away.
I've always hard a hard time hearing the timing of this. Are you hearing it/singing it in 4/4/ and overlaying the 12-note rolls? And if yes, do the rolls land in a different place in the bar each time?
I play by ear weejoep with a bit of instinct and improvisation thrown in for good measure...pardon the pun. As far as I can make out, what you are suggesting is correct. Because of the lyrics and especially the melody and chord changes, yes you do not get to finish the entire lick sequence on occasions throughout.
Is this bluegrass???
No, this would be considered loosely as folk banjo style using a lick" or "roll" pattern which is basically a series of notes played in a particular sequence. Here is a link to an example of what would be deemed to be bluegrass style. However, there are many forms of this bluegrass style depending on the tempo of the tunes/songs as well as variations including melodic bluegrass etc. Hope this helps and doesn't confuse!
Thanks