Francis Ford Coppola Calls Marvel Films Despicable
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Rokaan Al-Zeer - In the words of the smiths, “bigmouth strikes again!” Francis Ford Coppola has come out and defended Scorsese’s comments about comic book movies and even said they’re not inspirational and called them despicable. What do you think?
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I feel like at this point, journalists are intentionally asking film director pioneers for their opinions on these films as a form of clickbait and controversy
Probably. Fair game though cause they are in a position to exercise their personal pride and maybe some jealousy OR be above it and praise something they didn't and would never create
Well mcu is pretty cheesy
@@lexis4490 who's a normal person? Legends of film directing are not normal.
@Travis Journalists can be shady we know this, that still doesn't let Coppola or Scorsese off the hook.
And you’d be right. But the directors now are going out of their way to be snobby dickheads
Coppola is basically taking a shot at his nephew who played the Ghost Rider twice.
Antonio Darcy what critics Rotten Tomatoes? Average CZcams guys looking for clickbait? The movies are geared towards children
Super Rat last I checked the mcu got hate from people like you online and these two (respected)but old director’s who are just out of touch.
The films are loved by critics and audiences alike with long time marvel/comic book fans it’s the dceu that needs to take criticism not them
I kinda liked ghost rider as well tbh
Quisha Kiera MCUs fan base in 90% kids an 10% grown adult babies. Toy story Aladdin lion king made a Billion obviously kids movies will always be around. It doesn’t make it for mature adults
Quisha Kiera sorry but most adult men don’t have 1001 action figures lmao 🤣
Every time John raises his voice, I feel like a kid getting yelled at in school.
Lol. Michael Scott, where are the turtles?
Colin Matzkows it reminds me of this one time my SUPER COOL gym teacher in middle school yelled at me in the office lol
Really? Because I feel like a grown adult wondering why another grown adult is acting like a sad little bitch
He’s the kid. Sad some people just won’t grow up boys and there toys
I feel like a teacher having to tell a kid pipe down and stop whining.
I'm not a fan of the McUniverse, but I'm not gonna dog somebody that does enjoy it.
Yeah you’re what’s called a mature human being lool
I mean, who doesn’t enjoy a big Mac now and then XD
I wish the nerd community had more laid back individuals like you
Okay but I'm totally calling the MCU the McUniverse from now on.
get ready for the next phase wont be saying that
To paraphrase James Gunn on the subject, there was a time westerns, gangster, and sci fi films were accused of being “invader” as well.
@Happy or you could just accept most people like something you don't like.
@@ryansmith-jr4gn right
Truth hurts doesn’t it, that backlash is because deep down you all know they are right. Sci fi and westerns did invade and they all died out and now have become films you for the most part make with a big big vision
James Gunn? the golden razzie winner? what does he know about cinema? lol
Westerns, gangsters and "B movie" sci fi films were the founding genres of cinema, just look at the films from the 30's, 40' and 50's.
Drsoe08 I won’t defend movie 43 but given the talent on that film I think, literally half of Hollywood have that black mark.
Also Coppola did make Jack. So careful about throwing stones. ☕️🐸
It does sound like they're taking it quite personally.
No more personally than John is. He’s just as pathetic, even more so
They are.their projects aren't financed anymore because everyone prefers to give money to the MCU (which is great in my opinion. They are great filmmakers but they are quite limited in range. They are no Spielberg)
@@thestarkknightreturns I agree that comic book films are limited in form, they are after all great distractions from what's going on in the world today. In times of peace and stability, you'll find that people tend to be drawn to _deep_ movies and are willing to take a risk to see a movie that scares them. Yet now, most moviegoers just want a chance to escape so that's the main appeal of a comic book film. You get to see the good people defeat the bad most of the time. At least that's one way to look at it.
Apparently, Scorsese isn't allowed to have an opinion.
@@amazingkris I agree. Yet, these guys are huge icons and should know better than to make seemingly childish comments that a young adult would. I feel their reaction lacks maturity and all it really seems to do is inflame people. It totally seems calculated due to the fact that these comments are being made at the MCU while it's in a transitionary period. It's like their thinking is "This is our chance to use _Cancel_ them and put even more doubt in people's minds!", so it doesn't seem like these comments were made simply as an opinion but more of a well-aimed sniper shot. It just seems downright mean-spirited and entitled.
Making movies that make people happy is every bit as laudable as making movies that explore some dark corner of human experience, and as John says its comic book movies that are keeping the lights on.
The argument isn’t that people would know a Marvel Hero rather than historical hero, the argument is that these movies may or may not be cinema.
Disney forces cinemas to show these films exclusively for days when they initially release. There really is no competition, and they do literally keep the lights on for them.
If thats what is keeping movie theaters open then its time to close the doors!
I watch the marvel movies. Because the shit I go thru. They help me escape the real world for just a lil bit. Just so I won't do nothing bad to my self or others. Some of the real cinema. Is not gonna help me. I will think it a good movie. But then I will still that pain. When I'm watching it. But with marvel movie. It take it all away for some time. So you telling me. I have stop watching marvel movie. Even if it help me.
Ppl that don't watch real cinema. Is because maybe they don't want to watch it or don't like it. U can't make someone watch your movie. Because they like something else.
I love all of the prep: clearing the throat, drinking some water. When John is about to go off, he wants to make sure NOTHING gets in the way!
@@krisj827 Hahaha, nice observation! 😂😂
This reminds me of art teacher's say that comic book art is not "art", because it is not the "classics". So this directors are doing the same thing, but "Art is Art" regardless of what they think.
Sounds like your art teacher forgot one of its most important things, that art is subjective.
lpsalsaman John is time to grow up ur pushing fifty ur old too
@@tobiaswhale9552 Tobias, not sure if you referring to me or John or both. But liking a genre of movies, or music or anything to be entertained should be fine. I enjoy drama and any other type of movies, if they are good even better. Been able to see this movies of books I read when I was a kid, and recapture that magic is great. Age has nothing to do with it, is about what makes you happy.
@@markparkinson6947 Yep you right Mark, unfortunately and although comic book art, computer graphics and other main stream art is more recognized, they are still marginalized by some art instructors as "non-art". I still draw as a hobby, and those old remarks don't bug me like they uses to.
@Light Side I get what you are saying about standards, but I think you are missing the point. These movies are on a SciFi/Action/Fantasy genre if we are to place them correctly. The genre that Coppolla and Scorcese deal with are drama, action and more adult themes. So, if our generation now finds these comic book-inspired movies great, there is nothing they should say about them. These movies are for entertainment, just like other types of movies like Cowboy movies, Pirate movies and such, they were made for that purpose. To me, they sound like it's sour grapes because they are acting as if they feel not relevant but they should take the high ground instead of sounding bitter. Anyway, life goes on, we need to enjoy it.
3:57 this is when John became the Joker
I think John's being biased and he's completely wrong. Mcu needs to step up. Plain and simple
@@theswordofkahless1568 to your knowledge mcu has been stepping up and evolving in their own way. OK their is comedy, infinity war and end are very dim compared to other Thats not a bad thing.
The Sword of Kahless. “You’re wrong and biased. I win! Bye bye”
The Sword of Kahless I don’t see how John’s being “biased”? I mean he entitled Scorsese and Coppola to their own opinion, but also pointed out that their opinions/statements are extremely flawed. And the MCU having to “step up their game” is a completely different topic in general, what does that have to do with this?
Obby “I understood that reference.”
"Get off my lawn!"
Super Rat ?
Legendary filmmaker yells at iCloud.
Sorry but those men are Gods and must be obeyed. This is why I don't give work to Marvel fans.
@@stanfordite "Obeyed"? 🤣
@@avip8539 Exactly. Their word is the law and people need to have their tastes in movies dictated to them. Maybe it's time for Washington to seize control of the movie industry and tell studios what movies they can and can't make.
These men have totally forgotten sitting in a theater at nine or 10 years old watching King Kong or flash Gordon (both high cinema by the way) and being inspired to be a filmmaker. Sad.
Lmao you have to grow one day. They had Hitchcock , kubrik real pioneers to evolve their maturity
You can like what ever you like but you don't have to attack Comic book movies or other genres just because there jealous.
lindsay lake that's because king kong is art and marvel is not. Just like lotr is art but transformer is not. Period
@@jianchen8488 anything creative is art, just on different levels. I don't like lotr but I still consider them art and my jaw drops to the floor at how well they are made.....these old dudes are just jealous and seem to remember the film Industry being something it wasn't. The bigger films are always action orientated or kid oriented. The films that make you think and are well made, make far less but stand the test of time.
Scorsese was fair. He just shared a valid opinion, which is fine. It’s Coppola who’s dogging on people for liking something that he doesn’t
I find it telling these cinema elitists say “Marvel” and not comic book movies or any other summer blockbusters. I mean why not take aim at those also? I’m sure they’re not “cinema” as well. This is what happens when you become the most successful company in the business. To be fair, apparently Scorsese wasn’t directly asked his opinion on these movies it just came up. Coppola on the other hand seems to just be echoing ignorant BS
I was saying the same thing. It shows the true reason why they are criticizing Marvel films. I do feel Coppola and Scorsese believe in what they are saying but at the same time, they are really upset at how much revenue the Marvel generates for each film. That is why they qualify with "Marvel...". This is also why mediocre actresses J-Lo and Jennifer Anniston has to open their mouths. After all of these years? Where is the complaint on James Bond ( I love these films but I am using them as a reference) or the "Saw" franchise?. Well, their criticisms are for naught as I will continue to see the Marvel films (DC as well) until I decide otherwise.
the popular you get, the more haters you attract.
I’m huge fan of marvel and dc but if people aren’t I’m cool with that it’s there opinion! I’m saying it’s not an a movement on the directors or the genre it’s just an opinion and John is making it something that it’s not
Brooke Tsimelkas he’s hurt because deep down he knows the quality simply just isn’t there so he resorts to personal attacks
Because the mcu has been generic and mediocre thats why. Stop lumping in other companies and movies when the mcu fucks up, just because the mcu fucks up it doesnt mean other films/companies are in that same boat. These people really see that the mcu has always been generic and the same output we get when we go to the theaters and they arent rewatchable imo. Majority of mcu films suck and are boring, they have no creativity, nothing to push the comic book genre forward and is most of the same shit. Mcu gets this much attention/money because it's really targeted for kids and families, but comic book nerds are just happy they are being portrayed on the big screen and overhyping it because they been reading comic books as kids and think it's good enough so they settle with mediocrity.
When you made Goodfellas ,the departed , wolf of wall street ,silence , the godfather 1 and 2, Apocalypse now........you can say whatever you want about todays movie
but if you should watch it before saying anything
True! It’s classes and levels above these laser cgi fake unrealistic man flying through the air movies.
@@serniebanders2858 your allowed to think that but everything Francis Ford Coppola said i get more from Marvel films than his films. I get that enlightenment. I get that knowledge i get that true Cinema feeling from MCU films
Short sighted.
Not everyone likes those movies either. Wolf on wall street is actually trash fr fr.
To call comic book movies “despicable” is pretty extreme. These movies aren’t promoting racism or advocating pedophilia or anything of that nature so I’m having a bit of a hard time seeing what makes them so despicable...
They're just pissed that the type of movies they don't like are the most popular on the market
Anurag ! John is old also lmao dudes fifty
Anurag ! John is fifty they both old ones still playing with toys 🧸
He is kinda right what he says though, the entire internet is flooded by superhero talk which is complete and utter fatigue.
it's media and industry satiation, it isn't about going to the movies .
you look at social media. youtube. they have all these channels like screenJunkies or COlider etc and 95% of the F''king topics are about superhero movies. flooded with it with stupid questions and topics. or rumours to do with who is staring in the next one. and all the mailbag questions are all to do with the marvel movies. it is rare as hell to find any mainstream youtube channel or podcast where it is flooded with the superhero topics. it takes a lot of searching to get variety now.
look at even your channel John count how many questions you get a day and I bet 90% of them are superhero questions and stupid questions about 'what if so and so was batman' I like those type of movies but I am sick to death of social media and youtube being flooded with that as most of the movie news.
I don't think it is about cinemas being flooded with these marvel movies they only have 3 a year at max. it's about the entire industry now flooded everything about them
Or glorifying the mafia.
As a huge anime fan, I take your point John. Not everyone has to agree on everything. You like what you like
Not a big anime fan...but i love my friends that likes anime, i cant seem to see people instantly makes you an idiot just becuase you like something they dont like
Anime is not real cinema
@@davidsoto8445 Akira, Ghost in The Shell and Princess Mononoke strongly disagree they're better than anything Hollywood has come up with for the past decade.
ghost in the shell@@davidsoto8445
akira @@davidsoto8445
Why does every movie have to be some evocative, mind blowing experience that "enlightens" you and makes you think? Why can't a movie simply be something that entertains you. By the opinion of these guys, I would think every romantic comedy, horror movie, action/adventure movie, western, almost every scifi/fantasy etc. is not true "cinema". They just happen to rail at Marvel films because they are the big dog in the room right now.
Yall just like being dumb. And and you naming all those genre have its classics and its dgrade movies. These movies are just content boomers no real meaning just shit to watch 1 time. I doubt yall re watch them
@@paulsantibanez525 u ppl let emotions, cause YOU dont like something, cloud ur judgement. Most ppl that are fans of these films have watched them multiple times, me included. Matter of fact, there's no way marvel is the most successful film studio of all time if there aren't repeat viewings. AND if marvel is such trash why are other comic book films not as successful? Let ppl like shit. Got damn
All yall do is except, no more judging , i always let people enjoy what they like but dont get offensive because i dont agree with your views.
@@paulsantibanez525 ya u r calling our favourite movies shit and somehow we are being offensive!
Idk Endgame, Logan and spiderverse were masterpieces to me
John Campea will receive a HORSE'S HEAD in his BED Tomorrow. 🐎🐎🐎
At the end of the day all they are doing is bringing more attention to the mcu and will not hurt Disney in anyway shape or form.
DuraDigi lmao really positive way to spin it
Plot Twist: They're all working for the Mouse...
MCU will die out.
Not for a very long time.
Damn, John is always so measured and even-tempered. Seeing him go ballistic on Coppola here is like a revelation. He really does have lines you can cross.
It's funny Coppala forgot to mention "entertainment", something he hasn't been able to provide for 27 years.
@Abu Tahir so take ur
'cult classics' and go fuck with them .No one cares of them now as neither did when it came out.
@Abu Tahir there lots of mcu fanboys triggering you
@Abu Tahir tf I'm saying that you guys stop watching I'm saying that stop overrated it
When I read their comments I feel like they're mistaking Comic Book movies with Transformers Franchise.
Transformers franchise isn't despicable
I know these guys are living legends and all... but why do we care about their opinion so much? Them saying these things shouldn't change our enjoyment of the movies we love.
Their opinions are well respected amongst the film industry and I'm sure all these Marvel directors know these two very well and look up to them so it hurts them for these two to say such negative things about their craft. Like a stab in the back.
It went out the window for me after the first sentence of Scorsese’s initial comments. He said he doesn’t even watch them. Opinion invalid 🤷🏼♂️
@Happy please tell me how
Exactly. Who cares?? The only ones I feel sorry, are the creative minds behind these creations, that are being dragged to the mud, just because some people are unhappy with them.
I hear you saying Logan and Joker ut they arent marvel films, Coppola and Martin are talking about MCU movies, which are amusement parks basially... The only difference between CW shows and MCU is budget
Superhero movies will continue to be kicking when these two geezers are long gone lol
Superhero movies are for low IQ idiots.
creative person And what is your profession oh wise one?
@@creativeperson5858 get a load of this society
They will die out like Spielberg said
So will Godfather and Goodfellas you idiot
These Marvel movies are similar to a lot of the other blockbusters coming out so why don't they attack them too.
Because MCU has found the most successful formula. Everyone comes after you when you're at the top of whatever you do.
Tommy Rex the formula is exactly what they’re attacking.
The things is a lot of people feel left out they don't know how to adapt to culture change, so they get angry and lash out instead of just letting people enjoy what they like.
Funny because literally the entire early days of "cinema" were adaptations from fairytales or novels like Jules Verne. That is what Marvel is, just adaptations of stories.
No they weren't. The early days of cinema during the silent era were either very simple comedies, swashbuckling adventures or dramas. Adaptations of fantasy didn't become prominent in cinema until the late 30's and 40's. Mind you it's mostly Disney that pioneered so much in the first place.
Just old men telling us to get off their lawn. 🤗
With respect to these men, this kinda makes me think about that quote from Brie Larson about old white men not being the audience in a different light. Not defending,not advocating,just thinking.
Tbh it's my dream to say that one day🙃😅
@@Noname-qe7to I have actually thought it would be fun to say that as an actual old guy.
Reminds me of how comics were viewed when they were getting popular.
DoomBoogie reminds me of McDonald’s happy meals steal a kids happy meal they get very upset
Reminds me of how people viewed interracial marriage.
Tobias Whale oh shut up. You like black lightning. That show is way shittier than the mcu.
@@tobiaswhale9552 You remind me of what someone acts like when they happen to be a clown.
That’s quite a speech about Coppola and Scorsese needing to “have some class.” I seem to remember a man named John Campea saying that Gal Gadot should “quit acting” after he watched the first Wonder Woman trailer. Yes, the trailer. Was that having some “class” too?
I will never get the hate for gal gadot. She seems like a sweet girl. This guys a fucking loser.
@@finnvalor1915
Her Israel stance is a bit offputting
Marvel movies aren’t “despicable” but I understand the criticism. They’re very formulaic and designed to make big money, not so much pass as art
@@raulramirez8515 people can make movies about whatever. It’s not like Marvel is breaking any laws. But their content isn’t super groundbreaking or creative
"We expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration." I know for a fact that many people don't look for any of that in films. They simply look to them for escapism, to self-insert themselves in the story and live out their silly fantasies. That's the case for many MCU movies, as well as Godfather and Goodfellas. Mafia flicks were once criticized in a similar manner to how Coppola and Scorsese are knocking the MCU, that they lack depth and aren't real cinema. Seeing folks lose perspective as the get older makes me terrified of reaching old age lol.
I do hope that Francis Ford Coppola is asked to present Kevin Feige with the Academy Honorary Award
No
He should know, the godfather 3 was despicable, horrible and shameful!!!
I Disagree, It wasn't good as the first two, but it was still a masterpiece.
@@anouar3194 No masterpiece but was ok.
Jack also was pretty bad
His comment remained me of BOB Seger “Old time rock n roll” song. Ever generation has their own unique taste.
“Old men yell at comic book shop”
These 2 directors have had those thoughts bottled up for a while. Endgame made them burst.
I agree 100% with coppola.
I thought the Godfather was based on Mario Puzo's graphic novel? 😂
Give me a break. Marvel is clearly propaganda. And to say "are you telling me Ryan Coogler making 'Black Panther' is somehow doing something that is less than what Marty Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola has ever done on any one of their movies?" is plainly dumb. Coppola nearly went bankrupt making one of the greatest films of all time, Apocalypse Now. Scorsese managed to pull himself out of a downward drug spiral by shooting Raging Bull, another one of the greatest film ever made. For them to be disrespected in this way, by people who do not know anything about actual quality cinema, or even the people whose film knowledge their questioning , is frankly appalling. If Stanley Kubrick or Orson Welles came back from the dead to tell you that Marvel is sh*t, you still wouldn't believe them! Before you define Marvel "films" as cinema, realize that there are plenty of incredible films that are high quality AND entertaining! Take Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, or The Shawshank Redemption for example. You don't have to turn off your brain in order to enjoy movies. There has to be a reason why whenever they ask one of the greatest filmmakers who ever lived what their opinions are on Marvel drivel, they all give the same answer. These are people who have spent their lives studying cinema, and watching films that you don't even know exist. They went to college to study film and earn degrees. You're just people who like movies made from picture books that a five year old could read! Have you even heard of 8½ or Seven Samurai? You're all buffoons! I can't believe I've wasted my morning typing out this comment!
Preach
I’ve followed comic book films most my life. When my 11 year old son and I went to watch Infinity War. We were laughing one minute and on the edge of his seat the next. Little more than half way through he looks over at me and says This is the best movie ever dad! Then the snap happened and the movie ended he looks over at me and says I hate this movie dad! It brought every emotion out of us. Totally worth the admission. I’ll never forget it.
This is like older athletes that say today's players couldn't have made it back in their day.
Exactly
And they’d be right. Just like these guys are right.
This is also like metalheads claiming whatever type of Metal music that they listen to is the "real" Metal and dismissing any other sub-genre of Metal ever existed. A pure class elitist dumbass.
@@nickisactor Yet athletes today are much better trained lol. I could easily turn it around and say athletes from back in the day wouldnt be able to handle how hard athletes work today.
They're right. Rules shouldn't be changed and the NFL should still be stick in the 1960s or at the latest the 1980s with open season on QBs. The spread offense should be banned and everyone forced to run a pro-style smash mouth offense.
Absolutely ridiculous. Unlike Scorsese, who was making a point and apparently "being nice", Coppola is simply being mean-spirited.
The MCU movies are indeed "hogtied into three-act structures", they do rely too much on comedy; they really are economical. But this does not absolutely determine what the movies are or could ever be; the filmmakers, like James Gunn, still play a large part. All MCU films being the same is a myth, and even fans could fall for this notion too.
I don't think anyone could learn anything from, say... 'Captain Marvel', other than the studio's cynicism and greed, but Gunn's 'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2' really influenced my writings and my stories, and it allowed me to reflect on myself.
@@masonwright7700 I try to look around over Scorsese's analogy and his perception of "real cinema", but I can't deny how economical these movies are.
What I *can* deny is they're all the same. As I wrote, it ultimately depends on the filmmakers. Gunn clearly poured himself into his works and not a mere "yes man" for Feige.
@@MichelleAlexandria-EM They're all fronted by a white man: Kevin Feige.
I judge art by its ambitions, the efforts and results, not the artist or especially the gender of the artist. For 'Captain Marvel', it's obvious "artists" were simply following through a checklist given to them by Feige. It's no art, it's a product. The whole "feminism" is just its gimmick.
If anything, I'm also critical of 'Doctor Strange', which starred a 40-something-year old white man.
Wow, thanks for the warning you hate women and minorities. Your writing is gonna be so revolutionary.
Great video John. What these guys forget is that when movies first game out, everyone involved in live theater and books looked a movies as being McDonald's happy meals.
@@Rishi123456789 Shakespeare was considered the equivalent of a popcorn flick in his day. Not a grand opera where only the elites would gather---Shakespeare's plays had a peanut gallery of the common folk.
@@Rishi123456789 let’s be honest here, the likes of Godfather, apocalypse now, taxi driver, goodfellas, etc., are miles better than any superhero flick.
I think its about award shows like the Oscars having superhero movies compared to their work
It's basically old men yelling at the kids to stay off the sidewalk in front of their house.
Did Francis Ford Coppola do his best Daffy Duck impression when he made that comment?
Jajaja these filmmakers reminded me my grandpa, he used to say Queen and Beatles songs were not music, just noise
4:08 It's funny that John mentions anime, as they've been a hate campaign against that medium for quite some time. Maybe MCU fans now know how anime fans feel when someone berates a genre or medium that they like.
neosoontoretro Most good filmmakers appreciate good anime. Akira, Cowboy Bepop, Ghost In the Shell etc. The shitty teen fan service bullshit that is coming out lately honestly deserves the hate.
I do question the experiences of people who disregard anime. There's so much variety that I can only assume that their experiences are extremely limited. It's similar to saying that one does not like animation in general. I guess it's possible though.
@@tiki1750 "the shitty teen fan service bullshit coming out lately honestly deserves the hate"
You mean 95% of MCU movies?
@Tiki "The shitty teen fan service bullshit that is coming out lately honestly deserves the hate. "
Er guy, that sh*tty fan service bullsh*t is NOT new to anime in fact it's not even exclusive to anime, just look at the history of American comics.
I always find it funny when ppl who disregard anime have no problem watching utter shit like Rick and Morty or Stephen universe.
Maybe he can’t relate to the modern characters and movies.
Ant-Man changed how my friend viewed his stepfather and he learned to appreciate him more. That maybe the realist thing affect I’ve seen a movie do
That’s why Chris Stuckmann stopped his worst of the year reviews
James Shelley why??
Dan96 Since going to Film School, he understands how hard it is to make films. So he stopped making fun of bad movies
About damn time, John... As I feel that you've been too kind to these jackasses.
Just as John stated they are what's keeping the movie business going to this day. You don't have to like the MCU to understand that. That's why I don't get about people they just want to bash something just because it's there to bash. Will they hit a ceiling at some point? Maybe so. But right now it is at the top of the industry. At some point, it will eventually hit it's peak... so people who enjoy MCU films better enjoy them while they can.
They’re not keeping the movie business alive. They’re keeping the movie theater business alive. Personally, I’d happily pay to see a new release streamed to my tv on the day of release. I couldn’t give a fuck about movie theaters but that’s just me
Happy someones butthurt 😂
Rob's been too kind to them? You do know, that Scorcese and Capolla is so big that probably even the people who work for them won't ever see Rob's channel, right? Lol!!
now see people like you who can't tell the difference between a quality steak and chuck trash are the problem.
I know people will disagree with me, but I think this is just them being salty that people are talking about Batman and marvel and other movies that are similar to comic book movies like rise of skywalker and not the Irishman and whatever the next movie Francois is making
Totally disrespectul to all the people who works on those Marvel movies.
What’s the point in getting outraged?
Pundits are getting all sorts of mileage out of this so-called controversy. It’s all grist for the mill.
Comic book movies are under no threat whatsoever, so just enjoy the ride!
That’s not his point tho. He’s shitting on directors for no reason by shitting on their movies
8:34 Campea Rant moment😍.
I agree with John Campea 100 percent! Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola are great filmmakers. But they should respect what others love. I love Marvel and DC movies. This sounds like jealousy by these filmmakers
He said marvel movies not comic book movies...
We first had Jodi Foster last year, then we had Martian Scoresese not long ago, then we finally now have Francis Ford Coppola.
Please respect STAN LEE Marvel legacy.
If I had not seen Iron Man 11 years ago, I would not have been an engineer now. So for some one to say they don't inspire is rediculous to me.
congrats bro!
Scorcese spent his life restoring films from every decade of cinema, CZcams is 15 years old.
That pretty much sums it up.
Concerning this story: I wrote a song called Granola with a lyric featuring the name Francis Ford Coppola. Old and curmudgeonly aside, he is now an official lyric in a song.
They are not talking about “comic book” movies, they are talking about Marvel movies - i.e. Marvel Studios, i.e. the MCU. And to that extent I have to agree. The MCU is increasingly a corporate entity that is a slave to popular fads.
8:30 reminds me when a teacher yells at you
All I hear from old people is "back in the days...[fill in the blanks] was better".
I look forward to Disney getting broken up by the government and losing Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar, and everything Iger bought. Hopefully Marvel will go out of business without Disney. It's time to bring back the studio system and put actors back under contract to make movies for only one studio at a time like Judy Garland, Clark Gable, Mickey Rooney, Lana Turner, and Marlene Dietrich at MGM and Shirley Temple at Fox.
Oh damn. Looks like there actually may be a “War on” for Marvel movies lol.
I wonder how this’ll affect the box office
😂😂
Vault of the Future not going to affect the box office at all no one cares what a bunch of old head directors have to say
Coppola has always had a disdain for "pop art" films, going back to his disappointment when his protege, George Lucas, decided to focus on the business of film-making, over the art of film-making.
He's made a statement which Marvel can't refuse. THEY SUCK!
You're a whiny preteen.
Who cares? The opinion that Francis and Marty are two of the all time greats is also just an opinion.
I don’t understand their are only 2-3 Marvel films a year. Plenty of time for non marvel films.
A thousand times yes
That's 2-3 too many.
But those are the movies the audiences are 100% going to see. What's more likely, an average movie goer seeing a realistic gangsta movie that is 2.5 hours long or a film about a team of super heroes taking down a cosmic threat, with tons of cool action and visuals
I only started going to Cinema because of comic book movies
Biniam Gaming well hopefully you watching something else at home.. remember between the comics it’s good to read a book too.. or something like that..!
Coolt XZ It’s only good to read text books. Anything else is boring and pretentious.
Well you need to expand your vision
I watch other movies at the cinema now, too. Woulda never went in the first place had it not been for comic book movies
Biniam Gaming good! That is very good.
Watching a marvel movie is like looking out a window for the first time and seeing squirrels tease a dog. Which is cute and funny. But the novelty fades after about 15 seconds.
Then through the same window you could watch a thunderstorm, lightning. A rainbow. A garden grow. The stars, shooting stars.
Just truly awe inspired events.
I’m glad you can find yourself to be entertained by more than squirrels hi jinx.
8:33 trying to get a twitter moment
No different than Gordon Ramsey saying Fast Food sucks. Coppola makes a different type of movie for consumption than what the Marvel consumption is. Not sure why we need to react to someone's opinion about something.
OMG. I love this rant. EPIC !
Marvel Movies: "Amusement Park Vacation"
Boomer Movies: "Colonoscopy Appointment"
or
Avengers: "Going to Six Flags"
GodFather: "Getting a Vasectomy"
Some people just don't want others to have fun, I guess...
The guy who's talking sounds like the guy from Chopped when he talks to the judges & chefs?
This kind of backlash is to be expected once Endgame became the highest grossing movie of all time. Like Avatar and Titanic before, the target becomes bigger when you reach those heights. To them, a film can't be good if it pleases and unites the masses.
People need to keep in mind these are 80 year old men who are out of touch.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 scorsese just made the Irishman which a lot of film critics and directors like Guillermo de toro and bong joon ho are calling a masterpiece. And it's a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes and 94% on metacritic
For there to be "high brow film art" there needs to be "low brow film art" as humans we love lots of diferent storys, the funny-est thing is while there film style is crafted art, there style PR coments have not been.
LMAO! This is stupid . Coppola and Scorsese are absolutely right. They were NOT bashing the directors directly they were bashing superhero films . For John to cherry pick certain characters to say they convey emotions in superhero films is laughable. You all need to man up and accept that superhero films are theme park rides that we gladly pay to entertain us. Your not going to pay to see a superhero drama or a superhero sitting on a therapists couch talking about his problems or a broken down superhero hooked on drugs and crying. Your paying to see superheroes kick ass use powers and blow shit up.
Yeah, this sort of a thing reminds me of my dad whenever he attacks some of the things I love, specifically Doctor Who and Twenty One Pilots' music.
Both aren't really conventional works of art but I connect with these things on a personal level and he attacks them every chance he gets. At first it felt like a simple opinion that he had but it now feels like a strange vendetta that's hurtful because those two things are a part of me.
Sometimes I wonder whenever someone goes on a campaign like this if they consider that some people really find special value in these works that help them through tough times in their lives or cope with ongoing things, like mental illness.
It's like Kris Carr says. Films are art and art is subjective. My my lady likes Rob Zombie films like House of a Thousand Corpses and The Devil's Rejects while I am not a huge fan of those films but I appreciate what she sees in those films. They're just not for me but I still enjoy them they're not my favorites like there are hers. But it is Art and it is subjective.
I think the directors are reacting out of jealousy more than anything else.
They're two of some of the greatest filmakers of all time, what do they have to be jealous of exactly?
The immense popularity of the MCU and how it affects the release of their films.
@@markparkinson6947 they not jealous
Don’t worry. You’ll grow up, you’ll see what real world is like one day. You’ll actually know what it feels like to be connected to something some day. Just cause this is important to you now? You’ll find real connection, then you’ll know, totally know just how much of a fad this comic phase really was.
It won’t control your life forever
Yeah just like 5 star restaurants are jealous of McDonalds, what a degenerate moron you are
Thank you John what you’ve said here is all that needs to be said about the situation at hand and people coming to grips with their own work which is amazing work counter to their own which they seem to be either an interested in to begin with RJ is not willing to understand the content that is being put out today but anyway thank you again for having a sensible opinion on the topic
Francis Ford Coppola 2019: *calls Marvel movies despicable and never seen with any MCU actors at all*
Francis Ford Coppola 2021: *has dinner with Tom Holland and Zendaya*
Lol really?!
Im Still Gonna Watch Marvel/MCU Movies Who Cares What He Said i do Enjoy GodFather Either Way
Me Too! 😆
@Harley Quinn BUT not Godfather part 3. I would watch Iron Fist season 2
@Harley Quinn Black Panther won 3!
Thanks Spiderman!
@Harley Quinn Black Panther Got 3 Oscar Mam
The Marvel Experiment was (and is) a significant phenomenon in the history of cinema, on a par with the inventions of feature-length films, talkies, Citizen Kane, 70's blockbusters, the digital revolution and all sorts of other stuff you can name that changed the landscape of the form. And at every point, there were members of the old guard who panicked and railed against it. This is simply more of that.
You really aren't comparing this to the Citizen Kane movie now, are you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No those had artist pushing things forward not corporations holding artists back and over saturating the industry with sterile awful films designed by boardrooms to appeal to the largest base through algorithms and focus groups and not take any risks
I’m curious as to what Spielberg’s take on all this is. On one hand he might just defend his homies Marty and Frank. Yet like Rob pointed out he’s one of the forefathers of great movie spectacle and magic which led to these epic superhero movies we have today.
Scorcese and Coppola just turned heel! What an angle!
He sounds/ acts like Daffy Duck. " yr despicable !"
Here's a man lecturing Coppola and Scorsese what they can or can't say.
I don’t understand, instead of being so offended by these movies... why don’t they try and help evolve the comic book movies as a whole. Things would get done a lot quicker and would benefit everyone really.
Movies are all about great stories and great characters and marvel is giving us that
Ok that's it. I'm will not watch the Irish men. Marvel has always we been there for me and I take his comments personally.
MY MANNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they try to hurt us let us make sure they pay for it
@@JordanBlueman half of the moviegoers to marvel films marvel fans never really go into a film like the irishmen
Trashing a film isn’t going to make the already dedicated fans dislike it, it’s just going to make them like you less. I think that’s what they need to understand.
MARVEL films NOT all comic book movies.
How many comics book movies release this year?4
How many are marvel?3
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