Who were the Proto-Indo-Europeans?

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  • čas přidán 9. 06. 2017
  • The existence of the Proto-Indo-Europeans (formerly referred to as Aryans) was once argued purely on linguistic evidence, but recent analysis of DNA of the Yamnaya culture and related steppe cultures, demonstrates their genetic legacy on Indo-European cultures in a timeframe that matches the expansion proposed by linguists.
    Most interesting of all, despite the fact these people started off in the Pontic Caspian steppe of Eastern Europe, modern populations in all of Northern, Central and Eastern Europe all have a strong genetic affinity with them.
    This video explains what genetic and linguistic evidence tells us about how they lived, what they looked like and what their pagan religion was like.
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    Sources:
    Massive migration from the steppe was source for Indo-European languages in Europe
    www.nature.com/nature/journal/...
    Steppe people had healthy genes
    biorxiv.org/content/early/2017...
    90% of British DNA replaced in Neolithic by steppe descended invaders
    eurogenes.blogspot.se/2017/05/...
    3 populations make up modern Europeans
    drive.google.com/file/d/0B016...
    Culture and language among Corded ware people
    drive.google.com/file/d/0B016...
    drive.google.com/file/d/0B016...
    Anthony, D., 'The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World'
    amzn.to/3wOUyUQ

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  • @Survivethejive
    @Survivethejive  Před 7 lety +359

    Learn more by reading the links and sources in the description. Please be civil in the comments.

    • @user-ps5ww4pe9x
      @user-ps5ww4pe9x Před 7 lety +18

      What are you sink about Russians? Russians have a R1a haplogroup. The highest caste of India, the Brahmans, who, according to the giving, were the Aryans, also had haplogroup R1a. Your thoughts on this?

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Před 7 lety +26

      Борис Борисычь R1a and R1b are clearly haplogroups of the original PIE speakers. Russians have a lot of yamnaya ancestry through the corded ware culture

    • @voramurlidhark
      @voramurlidhark Před 7 lety +4

      Survive the Jive one thing i want to correct is in hinduism bothsun and moon are male gods including 9 celestial beings whoz position affect a person .. And moon god has have all the constellations as his consorts

    • @zhannaibrasheva8167
      @zhannaibrasheva8167 Před 7 lety +6

      + Survive the Jive About origins of wheel:
      Döñgelek (Kaz and Kyr): from verb döñgelenu (turn).
      Verb Döñgelek was formed by combining words domalau (roll) and kelu (to come/arrive).
      Döñgelek/Wheel/Koleso
      Word Döñgelek describes exactly what a wheel does: it rolls and comes/arrives.
      Also it contains letters G, E, L some of which appear in English “wheel" and Russian “koleso”. When forming Russian KOLESO, “g” shifted to “k”. It is surprising, because originally in Kazakh there was “k” (in kelu (to come/arrive) and then it shifted to “g” to harmonize.
      So, it seems we found the origins of Eurasian wheel.
      By the way, the origins of English “ride” are in the Steppe too. Kazakh for “ride” is “aydau”.

    • @slappy8941
      @slappy8941 Před 7 lety +11

      Keiser Sior I find it amazing that the concept of hospitality is so old among our people that it has a mutually intelligible term in languages that have evolved so far apart.

  • @hersirivarr1236
    @hersirivarr1236 Před 5 lety +1307

    Indo-Europeans, what happens when a tribe spends all their tech-points on military technology.

    • @volka2199
      @volka2199 Před 5 lety +86

      To this day too lmao

    • @louispellissier4716
      @louispellissier4716 Před 5 lety +44

      You don't get hipsters, that's what happens

    • @SxVaNm345
      @SxVaNm345 Před 5 lety +45

      Well, it turned out pretty useful for them in the end.

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee Před 4 lety +6

      Also, most of the world's surviving religions

    • @cnpf312
      @cnpf312 Před 4 lety +9

      They did leave more of a presence than the peaceful people of Thera.

  • @HoundofOdin
    @HoundofOdin Před 4 lety +791

    So, where do you want to go?
    Proto-Indo-Europeans: Yes.

  • @jaypee6061
    @jaypee6061 Před 3 lety +128

    One small Steppe for man , one giant Steppe for mankind........

  • @user-zb5qn4pt6b
    @user-zb5qn4pt6b Před 5 lety +226

    The indo-europeans are very indo-european

    • @anunnakmm
      @anunnakmm Před 3 lety +2

      Wrong they are indo _slavik

    • @feiliormia
      @feiliormia Před 3 lety

      @@je-freenorman7787 Lmao

    • @davidcockayne3381
      @davidcockayne3381 Před 3 lety +1

      @@je-freenorman7787 And mostly Brahmin, oh dear.

    • @niklask8753
      @niklask8753 Před 3 lety

      @@je-freenorman7787 western culture comes from Greeks and romans. Who also made Christianity become possible. So please stop your anti Christian stuff

    • @Lee-sd8uo
      @Lee-sd8uo Před rokem

      ​@@anunnakmm 😂 ok

  • @boci_levu
    @boci_levu Před 7 lety +829

    So Hinduism is the last trace of the original Indo-European religion before the mass conversion to Abrahamic religions?

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Před 7 lety +503

      Boci Levu pretty much. There is also Zoroastrianism

    • @boci_levu
      @boci_levu Před 7 lety +334

      Then both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism would be the last 'pagan' religions left. The world needs to ensure the preservation of both!
      Throughout their history both Christianity and Islam have tried to wipe-out or convert pagans (and each other) through their aggressively expansionist doctrine. Now there are far fewer people in Eurasia who practice the original beliefs of their Indo-European ancestors :-(

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Před 7 lety +94

      Josh Hari its partially derived from persian paganism

    • @ManabDasiammanab
      @ManabDasiammanab Před 7 lety +230

      Zororastianism is taking its last breath in India. Parsis of India are Zororastians who came from Iran to India to save their Religion and Culture from Islamic invaders.

    • @ManabDasiammanab
      @ManabDasiammanab Před 7 lety +119

      Josh Hari you stay happy with that Arab cult but don't expect us to love it. We will always hate that death cult.

  • @jglammi
    @jglammi Před 6 lety +742

    there was no Turkey 3600 years ago. Better to say Anatolia

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Před 6 lety +233

      true but there was no Anatolia either

    • @szobione
      @szobione Před 5 lety +67

      @Survive the Jive Exactly. There was the Hittite Empire in that location (and the place was not even called Anatolia back then) at that time and they were basically Aryans aka Indo-Europeans.

    • @MegaMayday16
      @MegaMayday16 Před 5 lety +28

      anatolia means anato helion in greek. so basically land of the rising sun. but we cult call it asia minor aka later turkey

    • @erikpomrenke267
      @erikpomrenke267 Před 5 lety +20

      Anatolia just refers to the geographical peninsula, no? @@Survivethejive

    • @Xiphiidae
      @Xiphiidae Před 5 lety +44

      Agreed. 'Asia Minor' and 'Anatolia' are useful geographic descriptors, 'Turkey' is not.

  • @HistoryTime
    @HistoryTime Před 5 lety +247

    I've been binging your channel over the last few days. Really enjoying it.

  • @pite9
    @pite9 Před 5 lety +306

    So basically a Yamna man with a horse was like a man with a nice car in the 50's, a chick magnet. I totally get that, and it also explains why western girls seems to love horses.

    • @AMsamification
      @AMsamification Před 5 lety +5

      ONLY MARGINALLY. Freud spits on you ..but it returns to him in the wind.

    • @redshift1223
      @redshift1223 Před 4 lety +50

      @@AMsamification lol fk freud the bullshitting asswipe

    • @APsupportsTerrorism
      @APsupportsTerrorism Před 4 lety +52

      It's same now. Sexual revolution freed women from 1000yrs of traditional sex roles... and observe, they naturally coalesce into harems that strongly value traditional male sex roles.

    • @thebrocialist8300
      @thebrocialist8300 Před 4 lety +8

      Women like horses because they have gib bix. If western women were drawn to ‘nice cars,’ however, one would naturally expect to find more women of means driving sports cars and a greater general knowledge of/appreciation for cars amongst females. We don’t see that. What we do see are older men of humble endowment thinking that possession of vehicles and commodities of this sort ‘attract’ women. The comical error of such American consumerist thinking is difficult to overstate. Try cleaning yourself up, working out, projecting confidence in your demeanor, and showing women a fun time. Convey whatever wealth you have in a humble manner (women interested in such things will pick up on that no matter how subtle the cues are).

    • @nthavotelcam4112
      @nthavotelcam4112 Před 4 lety +8

      Maybe you got a point there all Indo-European woman like horses? Maybe a genetic memory 😝

  • @archaeopteryx91
    @archaeopteryx91 Před 4 lety +138

    Pater Dyus = as a Spanish speaker thousands of years later, I could understand what that means immediately, no explanation is required. It's simply amazing. It's mind blowing really

    • @trexor67
      @trexor67 Před 2 lety +15

      Dyus Pater... Yus Pater... Jiupatter... Júpiter

    • @geoffreyharris5931
      @geoffreyharris5931 Před 2 lety +4

      dispater in Gaulish. Pater is father in Latin. (pater, patris, patri, patrem, patre). Dyeus is like deus, Latin for God but also has the sense of sky about it.

    • @p.mrtynjy
      @p.mrtynjy Před 2 lety +2

      Rig Vedic Dyāus Pitãh

    • @DoomShrm
      @DoomShrm Před 2 lety +1

      @@geoffreyharris5931 the indo european one is more like phter

    • @DoomShrm
      @DoomShrm Před 2 lety +3

      Padre Dios

  • @historywithhilbert146
    @historywithhilbert146 Před 7 lety +699

    Triggered you forgot the Frisians but notwithstanding the lack of trigger warnings very much enjoyed the video 😉

  • @homelessrobot
    @homelessrobot Před 4 lety +106

    As an American, I really relate to people who call their cheiftains potis.

  • @yamnayaseed356
    @yamnayaseed356 Před 3 lety +129

    The beautiful thing about this language is that an English, Polish, Iranian and Indian persons can sit down listen to it and be like “hey I know this word!”. If you think about the word “ghosti” it is pretty universal

  • @wadysawwotrzewiszczykowyck2318

    -watch Survive the Jive video
    -listen to soothing and calm English accent for 20 minutes
    -video ends
    -fuck didn't pay attention have to re-watch
    Every fucking time.

    • @aidanhryc6334
      @aidanhryc6334 Před 7 lety +6

      Haha, I know exactly what you mean. His voice is soothing.

    • @Alfadanz1
      @Alfadanz1 Před 7 lety +2

      As a man you are telling us you enjoy listening to english man talk,and you enjoy the accent. Now If it was a girl I would agree because english women do sound soothing

    • @TheUltimateBAN
      @TheUltimateBAN Před 7 lety +18

      -listen to soothing and calm English accent
      -suddenly *DUNKELHEIT*

    • @Alfadanz1
      @Alfadanz1 Před 7 lety +3

      Great song !

    • @wadysawwotrzewiszczykowyck2318
      @wadysawwotrzewiszczykowyck2318 Před 7 lety +6

      I am quite heterosexual Rojek, buddy ol' pal. Your hair triggers me though I think I get flashbacks from Poland vs Ukraine battles.

  • @smtuscany
    @smtuscany Před 5 lety +142

    I'm Italian from Tuscany, and although all of my 8 great-grandparents were from Tuscany, my DNA admixture scan through GEDmatch came out with some surprising results. It was closer to the average Central European than I expected. Only 45% or so was ENF. Maybe it's because my mother's family probably had older Germanic origins, since their surname sounds like an Italianization of a German word. Now I understand why, when I was in the US, everybody thought I was from the Netherlands or France or something like that.
    It's interesting and fascinating to find out something about our ancient bloodline, but one must always remember that, you know, people moved A LOT across the continent since then, and interbred AF. Otherwise you wouldn't have those blonde-haired blue-eyed Sicilians, probably descending from Normans that arrived there around year 1000 CE. They're not common, but they're there.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Před 5 lety +50

      actually blonde hair was in the med before the indo-europeans were because some ENF had it

    • @pablos5364
      @pablos5364 Před 5 lety +21

      my great grandfather was a blonde haired blue eyed sicilian, he came to argentina in 1898. I'm interested in taking a dna test to see what the hell comes up.

    • @ericksousa911
      @ericksousa911 Před 4 lety +16

      Blue eyes is indigenous to Middle-easterns as well, and Sicily has been in the hands of middle-easterns along history (Carthaginians/Phoenicians peoples).

    • @krixxset2214
      @krixxset2214 Před 3 lety +5

      ​@@Survivethejive lol where did you get thatt.... every bit of info ive seen regarding the physical traits of ENF describes them with dark hair, dark eyes and pale white skin...

    • @LetsAllDrinkToTheDeathOfAClown
      @LetsAllDrinkToTheDeathOfAClown Před 3 lety +5

      I had a great grandfather from Consenza in the state of Calabria, where they believe King Alaric died and was buried. My great grandfather was blonde hair, blue eyed with a very light complexion but he was only like 5'6" so he was short like a lot of South Italians. He was more Germanic looking than his half-Swabian, half-Prussian wife that was tall with brown hair and brown eyes.

  • @magnomaxx2010
    @magnomaxx2010 Před 5 lety +46

    I speak Portuguese, indo european idiom. I confess, when a read some hindi word i feel a strange
    familiarity...

  • @vulpesinculta3238
    @vulpesinculta3238 Před 7 lety +213

    "Geysl" meant "prisoner"?
    "Gijzelen" in Dutch means "to take hostage", a "gijzelaar" is a "hostage", and a "gijzelnemer" is a "hostage-taker". The "ij" in all of these words is an "ey" sound.

    • @swevixeh
      @swevixeh Před 7 lety +33

      "Gisslan" in Swedish. Apparently, the Germanic terms are loans from proto-Celtic:
      en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/g%C4%ABslaz

    • @SchnauzbaertigerKanisterkopf
      @SchnauzbaertigerKanisterkopf Před 7 lety +51

      "Geisel" in German

    • @lounickerson6002
      @lounickerson6002 Před 7 lety +20

      We are our ancestors.

    • @SchmulKrieger
      @SchmulKrieger Před 7 lety +9

      In German >Geisel< is a prisoner that was taken by some warriors or thefts, bank robbers and so far to have a good negotiating position. Thus the word could have been changed for so long to hostage, because you are as a >Geysl< in the rooms of the >Geysl's taker

    • @autarchyan5426
      @autarchyan5426 Před 7 lety +6

      in tuscan Re means King, in ancient latin Rex. Indoeuropean word? Regs.

  • @hromundwodening2261
    @hromundwodening2261 Před 7 lety +109

    That abrupt Burzum bit had me legitimately laughing out loud for a minute. Haha, great video as always Tom, and great sense of humour haha

    • @BanjoSick
      @BanjoSick Před 11 měsíci

      For a Varg-looking guy, that is no surprise for me. Haha

  • @dantehenry5283
    @dantehenry5283 Před 6 lety +407

    I'm not white but I love your work and your more modest demeanor. I'm thinking about doing something like this for Africans and middle easterners. I think you need to write a book compiling your interpretation of the data mate.

    • @Eu-cj8vt
      @Eu-cj8vt Před 5 lety +4

      Dante Henry hmmm , no !

    • @coolbule1238
      @coolbule1238 Před 5 lety +19

      Hey i can recommend some african channels.

    • @empirical_blade6926
      @empirical_blade6926 Před 5 lety +62

      Africans also have beautiful cukture and historical kingdoms

    • @botanicalbiohacking6065
      @botanicalbiohacking6065 Před 5 lety +33

      If you are writing in an Indo European language then its your cultural heritage as well.

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 Před 5 lety +50

      You would have an uphill battle:
      -DNA don't preserve well in hot environment
      -less (for Africa) of written records
      But anyway, good luck with your project. If you combat those two limitations, it could end up as really good stuff.

  • @mrkslva4231
    @mrkslva4231 Před 3 lety +22

    Hi, I'm Praveen(Pravina -Sanskrit, proficient-English). I am a Sinhalese(Indo Aryan) from Sri Lanka, the southernmost Indo-European ethnic group. My love to all other Indo European brothers, sisters and cousins...

    • @thefuryofthedragon8715
      @thefuryofthedragon8715 Před rokem +4

      dravidian

    • @Whayleejay
      @Whayleejay Před rokem

      ​@@thefuryofthedragon8715 Where are you from? I got you no matter what you say and you won't tell me. Here's something for you: "Genetic studies comparing eight X chromosome based STR markers using a multidimensional scaling plot (MDS plot), revealed that South Asians like Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sinhalese people cluster close to each other, but also closer to Europeans. In contrast Southeast Asians, East Asians and Africans were placed at a distant positions, outside the main cluster.[42]"
      But either way, I'm of English ancestry and am no more pure "yamnaya" than this Sinhalese man, not that yamnaya genetic contribution matters; you're a historylet.

    • @thefuryofthedragon8715
      @thefuryofthedragon8715 Před rokem

      ​@@Whayleejay What I meant from my statement is that Sinhalese show more Dravidian AASI dna than their Northern cousins. and I am from Sweden and my ancestors have lived in Sweden as far as I know.

    • @Whayleejay
      @Whayleejay Před rokem

      @@thefuryofthedragon8715 Ah yes a saami boy.

    • @jacquesdegatineau
      @jacquesdegatineau Před rokem

      @@thefuryofthedragon8715 lol the snow monkey who would be completely forgotten about historically if it weren’t for more successful Europeans. take it to /pol/, you are valueless in real life.

  • @LivingHistorySchool
    @LivingHistorySchool Před 7 lety +155

    I love my milk and beer drinking cart driving ancestors! DNA U152

    • @kakibackup2koujo612
      @kakibackup2koujo612 Před 7 lety +7

      LivingHistorySchool milk is good

    • @ravkoleavikk8577
      @ravkoleavikk8577 Před 5 lety +2

      i love my finno-ugric ancestors!

    • @mahakalabhairava9950
      @mahakalabhairava9950 Před 5 lety

      Milk is bad for the bones. Dutch people who consume tons of dairy break bones alot. Belgians, who consume less, much less. This is because of the acidity that milk creates in the blood.

    • @MrCristianposso
      @MrCristianposso Před 5 lety +4

      @@mahakalabhairava9950 But it also allows you to grow more so it doesnt matter.

    • @mahakalabhairava9950
      @mahakalabhairava9950 Před 5 lety +2

      @@MrCristianposso Grow fat, maybe... 😂

  • @archilleasvalente5320
    @archilleasvalente5320 Před 5 lety +59

    Watching: "Who were the Proto-Indo-Europeans?" at 4 a.m.
    My family: Sleeps
    Me: Oh, thats a good question

  • @varungambhir3403
    @varungambhir3403 Před 4 lety +25

    Thank you so much. I’m doing my high school final project on the indo Europeans and their influence on the world. I needed some help haha

  • @zoranristov7349
    @zoranristov7349 Před 5 lety +82

    hah 'gosti' in Slavic also means guests haha the exact same word

    • @MelleGamers
      @MelleGamers Před 4 lety +4

      Gäst in swedish

    • @trakuraul5370
      @trakuraul5370 Před 4 lety

      gazda,
      gazdui, gazduit, gazduire, gazdoie..gazdoi...in romanian

    • @ras573
      @ras573 Před 4 lety

      @@trakuraul5370 wait, that Romanian word is probably not the same one. Are you 100% sure?
      "gazda" means boss or master. And it's not Indo-European.

    • @trakuraul5370
      @trakuraul5370 Před 4 lety

      @@ras573 more corect pronuntiation is ,,gaszda" and mean... house master ..... , gas(zd)padar

    • @wolsky25
      @wolsky25 Před 4 lety +3

      @@ras573 gazda from slavic language. mean master.

  • @capriciousstoic2266
    @capriciousstoic2266 Před 7 lety +66

    They out- performed the other groups, because of war and milk.
    milk . They had the enzime to digest milk. 1 Litre of milk is 670 calories. By becoming yogurt, the bacteria eat lactose...meaning that the calories decrease..but digestiability increase.
    So proto-indo-europeans children had better nutrion...meaning just by drinking 2 litre of milk per day..they had the necesary calories. Nobody could drink milk...but farmers could consume yogurt...and cheese ( they lost some of the calories in the process ) - the hunters-gathereres not even that.
    So they had a evolution advantage - of having a grass-converter (livestock ) into calories...with highest efficiency possible for themself.
    Livestock in agricultural societys was limited a resurces that could not feed 10.000 of people( a few cows here and there ) . But for PIE, livestock was able to feed a population on the move that was in constant war..with a better outcome regarding drought and soil depletion, and with the posibility to consume milk they got the maximum from it...( calories wise )
    They probably had 8 -10 children per women and expanded at such a major ratio, waged war and dominated everyone that they encontered. By 10-15 generations they would have outbreed, killed and intermaried with everyone.
    War was the factor that killed ( and maybe other ecological factors ) : Old Europe / Cututeni Civilization - and with the colapse of the agrarian civilization also the population that could offer resistance decresed.
    Eventualy they intermingled and became the ancient populations that we know today. ( celts, latins, germans, thacians...etc ).

    • @zhannaibrasheva8167
      @zhannaibrasheva8167 Před 7 lety +6

      Horse milk and meat. And Kazakhs still eat horse meat and drink horse milk. There is an archeological site of so called Botai Culture in Norhern Kazakhstan where the remains of domesticated horses were found. Only of horses, not other domesticated animals. Also in pottery there were found the residue of horse milk. The Botai Culture dates 5000 years old.
      Horse was and is the fastest moving domesticated animal. So those who domesticated the horse and consumed its meat and milk could move faster than those who had other domesticated animals.

    • @lotionman1507
      @lotionman1507 Před 3 lety +2

      @CCCP it might be convergant evolution. herding cultures may be more likely to evolve the trait since they rely more heavily on livestock than grains. blond hair evolved in melanesians completely seperately from europeans, so lactose tolerance isnt out of the question.

    • @lukasmakarios4998
      @lukasmakarios4998 Před 2 lety +3

      A vastly oversimplified and sloppy presentation. Some good ideas, but you need to think them through and involve a wider set of contributions, including archaeology, genetics, culture, etc. How did horses contribute? Are you much dependent on cattle, or were horses a multi-source of power, food, prestige and replacement? Are there other factors equal to your "lactose" theory?

    • @Noone-gz8li
      @Noone-gz8li Před 2 lety

      Hmm now I understand why cow is so important even till now in north India
      Damn

    • @fleebogazeezig6642
      @fleebogazeezig6642 Před 23 dny

      Interestingly lactose tolerance is also found in some African tribes (obviously ones that practice/practiced pastoralism).

  • @nileshnath541
    @nileshnath541 Před 7 lety +22

    In Hinduism, the Sun (Mitra/Surya), and the Moon (Soma/Chandra) are both male.

  • @LittleSparrow.
    @LittleSparrow. Před 4 lety +68

    I'm Indo European Kurdish from Anatolia :))

    • @alireza-sj9rw
      @alireza-sj9rw Před 3 lety +1

      Of Course Kurd Are IndoEuropen and Aryan Thats Are Not Turk Moghol Altai !

    • @nikolascheryshev5305
      @nikolascheryshev5305 Před 3 lety +2

      i am kurdish too and my haplogroup r1a- z93 Indo-European, hello brother!

    • @rojanaryan3230
      @rojanaryan3230 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Před 4 měsíci

      Hello, distant brother! I have Anatolian in my DNA, but way back

  • @MsXerxes123
    @MsXerxes123 Před 6 lety +55

    As an Iranian: you are on point: friend. 👏🏻

    • @h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777
      @h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777 Před 4 lety +13

      Hope fire will rise again.
      Iran forever.

    • @user-cs1wi3fw5n
      @user-cs1wi3fw5n Před 3 lety

      @James F If you are not Iranian don’t tell them what to be free of because we’ve had enough of being told what to do by white people, thank you.

    • @sassaniandynasty3796
      @sassaniandynasty3796 Před 2 lety +3

      Zoroastrian from India here. Heil Zoroaster!

    • @sassaniandynasty3796
      @sassaniandynasty3796 Před 2 lety

      @@human8454 someone got kicked too by the British. Still love India

    • @p.mrtynjy
      @p.mrtynjy Před 2 lety

      ❤️ from india azizam

  • @TheGoldenOne
    @TheGoldenOne Před 7 lety +450

    Absolutely prosperous video as always, heryos!
    15:24 lol'd :-D

    • @approachinggnosis4613
      @approachinggnosis4613 Před 7 lety

      Buddy Rojek l2 Gloria

    • @waterdrager93
      @waterdrager93 Před 7 lety +1

      I don't think you can make those links. They sound more like folkloric explenations than credible ones supported by facts.
      In andere woorden, volgens mij slaan je ideëen op weinig .

    • @maciejniedzielski7496
      @maciejniedzielski7496 Před 7 lety +4

      Ferdian Tanjung Mandahiling Koto yes, he forgets Slavs connections in his videos (however great) he mentions just "Occidentaux"

    • @jcoker423
      @jcoker423 Před 5 lety +2

      rizferd. As some one who believes in the pedo prophet who flew to heaven on a winged goat, your beliefs are all stupid

  • @drewslater7989
    @drewslater7989 Před 7 lety +28

    Hey man would you be able to recommend a good genetic testing company? I am afraid to go with ancestry or 23andme because they own your genetic info.

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42 Před 5 lety +6

    Subscribed on the strength of this one video. Thank you! I came looking for information on the culture of the P.I.E. people through linguistics & that's what I got!
    I love discovering the echoes of these people in not only my language but also the smattering of other languages I have. Lots of "Of course!" moments... Hugely rewarding!

  • @kubislav1313
    @kubislav1313 Před 2 lety +29

    I liked watching your video very much! It points out many interesting aspects in my own language, which is Czech. I know that there is some recent esoteric-like movement around Slavic culture, but fact is, that Slavic languages preserved many interesting contexts from the past. You mentioned "bear" in Russian. In Czech it's the same- "medvěd" which actually mean "honey-knower". The root "věd" is very widesperad and important in Slavic languages with numerous connections. Czech language as an example-
    Vědět (arch. věděti) - to know
    Věda - science (see sanskrit "veda" - knowledge)
    Vědění - knowledge
    Vědomí - consciousness
    Vědma - she enchanter, fortune teller (someone who 'knows' in spiritual sense)
    . . . and many other words delivered from this root "ved" which seems to be proto IE. See for example famous celtic druids originating from *dru-wid - "tree-knowers" (in current Czech it would be "dře-věd" 😃 ). Although the Baltic languages are more archaic members of Balto-Slavic language branch, the Slavic ones preserved so much context and it makes them fun to learn - unlike languages with many loanwords you don't need to get explanation to every word, because you can trace their meaning by their context.
    Cheers and keep going! 😃

  • @CassandraPantaristi
    @CassandraPantaristi Před 7 lety +54

    Post-larnygeal late IE words:
    Relating to agriculture:
    aksis - axle
    qéqlos - wheel
    dreibō/wregō - I drive
    éḱwos - horse
    woghnos/woghos - wagon, cart
    yugóm - yoke
    Relating to war and conflict:
    ḱóros - war, struggle
    ḱóryos, strātos - troops, army
    ṇsis, kladyos - sword
    waldhō - I am powerful, I possess, I prevail
    Relating to patriarchal society:
    déms potis - master of the house
    wedhō - I lead, I guide (sneubhō is more used as "to wed", which is where Greek gets nymph from.)
    réǵs - king
    wedō (but also serō or yungō) - I join together
    wednos - bride price, dowry
    sneubhā, snusós - daughter-in-law
    Miscellenous words:
    bhrewō - I brew (brewṛ "brewer")
    álumṇ, sudhyom - beer
    gheislos - hostage, prisoner
    ghóstis - host
    ghóstipots - guest
    cōus (c represents gw) - cow
    peḱu - cattle
    oitos/loughyom - oath
    agóm/spṛdyom - contest
    apóqitis/qoinā -revenge
    woinos - wine
    Relating to society:
    bhlendhos/bhḷwós - blonde-haired, red-haired
    wéiḱs settlement, village
    wéiḱō - I settle, I inhabit
    wéiḱpotis/deuks - chieftain
    eryós - nobleman, kinsman
    nṛ, teutā - people, tribe
    genos - race, kin
    neros - hero
    Gods (deiwós, dhēs):
    Dyēus Pətḗr - Zeus, Jupiter, Tyr, Dyauṣ Pitā (God of the sky, husband of Diwónā)
    Diwónā - Juno, Diana, Dione, Dēvī (Goddess of marriage, women, marriage, fertility, cows, grain, the land and sovereignty)
    Sāwḷ - Sol, Sól, Helios (from Sāwelyos), Surya, sister of Mḗnōts, god of the moon
    Swéns qéqlos - Sun wheel, wheel of the sun, Diwós oqos "eye of Dyeus"
    Mḗnōts - Mene, Máni, Meno, Mēn
    Perqū́nos - Parjanya, Perkuns, Perun, Pērkons (God of storms, and the cloudy sky)
    Yemós - Yama, Yemir, Yima, Remus (earlier Vayu, Vėjas, Venti, Vejapatis
    Áusros (East, wind of prophecy and change)
    Súnteros (South, wind of prosperity and creation)
    Wéspros (West, wind of knowledge and mystery)
    Ḱḗweros (North, wind of war and death)
    Ṇgórā Déiwōm (assembly of the gods, established by Dyeus)
    Néktēr (The drink that keeps the gods immortal, stolen by the Déiwōs
    from the Dhwosōs)
    Dhéǵhōm (Earth, land of humans) “Earth”
    Dhǵhómonēs (Human beings, made by Manus from ash trees)
    ■ Ánsūs (chthonic gods)
    Wélṇos - Veles, Vala/Varuna, Ullr, Vellaunos, Vēlinas, Walis (God of the
    underworld, male fertility, husband of Príyā. Fought Perqū́nos in the
    form of a serpent, Ṇchis, or Ṇgwis "snake").
    Príyā (Wife of Welṇos, goddess of love, beauty, fertility, gardens,
    summer, and youth) > Frigga, Priya, Priye, Frya
    Dánu - Danu, Dānu (Wife of Áqōm Népot, goddess of rivers, healing, and prosperity, mother of tribes)
    Dhéghōm Mā́tēr (Pḷtwyā́ Mā́tēr) - Demeter, Gaia, Zeme, Prithvi
    Mater, Lelwani, Litavis, Mati Syra Zemlja, Žemyna (Mother goddess of the earth, plants, nature, fertility, motherhood, food, cooking, and agriculture, wife of Perqū́nos)
    Wḷkānos - Vulcanus, Ulkan, Varcas, Velchanos (God of fire and Blacksmiths)
    Pā́usōn - Pan, Pashupati, Puṣan, Faunus (psychopomp of the dead, God of the wild, part-man part goat, sings and dances)
    Trī́tōn - Triton (Son of Ák w ōm Népot, god of the sea and sailors)
    Álbhōs (Spirits of Nature) > Elves, Ṛbhu
    ○ Dréwyōs (Forest Spirits) > Dryads
    ○ Chédhruōs (Ḱorjōs) (Warrior spirits who accompany Perqū́nos, collecting the souls of those who die in battle)
    ○ Cháisōs (Mountain and Mist Spirits)
    ○ Chóndherwōs (Centaurs)
    ○ Nā́trīkēs (Ocean Spirits)
    ○ Néicēs/Néigwēs (Freshwater Spirits)
    ○ Serényéwes (Avenging furies, Sirens) > sirens, saranyas
    ● Mórinās (Snéntyās) (The three fates) “Weavers, Assignors,
    Alloters” > Moiriai, Parcae, Norns
    ○ Ṛ́tā (Past) “Order” > Urðr
    ○ Wérontyā (Present) > Verðandi
    ○ Skólyā (Future) > Skuld
    Récis/Régwis, Awónā (Flaming well that waters the g w īdoru, guarded by Áqōm Népots) “Deep place; Great Well”
    Bhúdhmṇ/Mori (Underworld, land of the dead and the dhwṓsōs, the
    sea) “bottom”
    Dhwósōs (demons, outsiders)
    ○ Ǵéronts (Ferryman of souls to the underworld) “Old Man”
    > Charon
    ○ Gā́gontes (Primeval giants, waged war against the Déiwōs)
    ○ Ḱeméros (giant bore who accompanies Ḱolyos)
    ○ Ḱérberos (Three headed giant dog who guards the underworld) ”Growler" > Cerberus, śarbala *k̑érberos
    Ḱólyos (Goddess of death and the underworld) > Kalypso, Hel, Śarva(?)
    With the afterlife, like the cycle of time, your soul get reincarnated after being in the underworld for some time (i.e. metempsychosis). And yes, both the bear, and the wolf, in Indo-European society were referred to by euphorisms because they believed if you said their names the animal would come after you. This also explains why Vikings raided while wearing the skin of a bear and acted like a bear. It was a way to overcome that fear. I am devoted to worshiping the Indo-European gods in their proto-form. Practices have been reconstructed to practice Proto-Indo-European religion. As for the creation myth, I have studied it, and made it poetic much like to that to the style of Ovid.
    Deiwóns kṃti twéd esonti! (May the Gods be with you!) :)

    • @aryyancarman705
      @aryyancarman705 Před 3 lety +2

      halig shit! i loved reading it
      and this is the first instance of me seeing some one use qeqlos instead of kwekwlos

    • @urania3652
      @urania3652 Před 3 lety

      Still doesn't matter to me at all because I'm agnostic but still, an very interesting read!

  • @Doctor_Manhattan777
    @Doctor_Manhattan777 Před 7 lety +195

    thank u so much for this! I'm sick of being propagandized and rootless in the modern era

    • @jonathanrealman8415
      @jonathanrealman8415 Před 3 lety +14

      Really? You need to go back about 6 to 8 thousand years to feel rooted?

    • @santiagogarciamedina4775
      @santiagogarciamedina4775 Před 3 lety +8

      You don't make any sense.

    • @michaelkappa8081
      @michaelkappa8081 Před 3 lety +6

      @@jonathanrealman8415 Roots would imply the very beginning of your people so yeah I would say the Steppe and caucus mountain range is the root of Caucasians.

    • @aaronpearson1744
      @aaronpearson1744 Před 3 lety +5

      @@michaelkappa8081 but where did they come from before that? Why draw a line there?

    • @BartChapman
      @BartChapman Před 2 lety

      Noah’s arc landed in the caucus mountains.

  • @MarkPMus
    @MarkPMus Před 5 lety +4

    Rktos reminds me of the l'os - the French for bear - also the word Arctic. Dyeus reminds me of Zeus - as I think you said, plus Dios and Dieu, the Spanish and French words for God respectively. Heryos may be the cognate of Aryan but it also reminds me of heir, as in descendant, a similar idea to kinsman. This is an immensely interesting video, and thank you for making it, and I say this as a relative newcomer to linguistics. The only thing I'd say is that your (undoubtedly lovely) face hid a lot of the maps and charts in the video for a lot of the time, and maybe you could remedy that in the future. This is the first of your videos I've seen though, so you may have sorted that by this time - January 2019. Thank you so much for the video!

  • @macchernac8922
    @macchernac8922 Před 4 lety +6

    I've got examples of possibly related words to the examples at the 8 minute in the video.
    These are from southern slavic languages:
    Sprd - identical word with different meaning : A parody, usually used to refer to funny plays. (Perhaps the culture was more nuanced and they didn't just compete with racing and fighting).
    Kwoyneh - Klanje : Slaughter (pretty easy to connect the dots)
    Gwous - Gvozde/Gvozdže/Gvozdenje : Iron chains which were used to tie cattle and prisoners.
    Ghosti and wihon are pretty much identical just written differently.

  • @christheconquerer9944
    @christheconquerer9944 Před 7 lety +5

    The story of humanity and its separate cultures has always fascinated me, this is so amazing for me, your videos or so awesome, as a young adult I don't have much knowledge of these lesser known older histories that are highly debated but this is understandable, interesting, and educational. I just found your channel and you're awesome! Thank you

  • @maciejniedzielski7496
    @maciejniedzielski7496 Před 7 lety +38

    11:00 finally Slavs connection in Indoeuropean History 😀 good point

  • @barbaricvm0
    @barbaricvm0 Před 5 lety +9

    I'd like to mention how i realized that the Slavic Indo-European branch has some striking similarities with Sanskrit,and even Proto Indo European that you referenced some words from.Like for example : Ghosti ( Guest / Host ) in Southern Slavic languages Gosti means Guest-s and Gost means Guest.Just a bit of a fun fact,i am no linguist but there it is.

  • @willackerman9557
    @willackerman9557 Před 5 lety +4

    Something came to mind when you mentioned the IE root word Heryos and that other words besides Aryan may derive from it. Do you think it's possible "heritage" and "inherit" are examples of this?

  • @igregurec
    @igregurec Před 7 lety +133

    "Medved" is the one who knows (where the) honey (is). "Med" is the honey in most slavic languages and "ved" is related to knowledge like "Vede", Hindu (holy?) books that basically mean "knowledge".

    • @hrvojezovko8426
      @hrvojezovko8426 Před 5 lety +28

      In south Slavic languages, bear is translated as "medvjed". As you see very similar to Russian and probably to other Slavic languages. But I always thought that it means "the one who eats honey" because "med" = "honey" and "jed" = "to eat" (roughly).
      Interesting thing nonetheless

    • @aaroniouse
      @aaroniouse Před 5 lety

      Could this be related to the Madhi?

    • @Patrioticification
      @Patrioticification Před 5 lety +20

      @@aaroniouse I think miód, med and other variants of honey in Slavic languages might be related etymologically to Madhu, Madhi. -wiedź, -ved part is about knowledge, not eating.

    • @thomasclaesson1631
      @thomasclaesson1631 Před 5 lety +11

      Ivo Gregurec in swedish ” vet”= know

    • @samuelbabic9441
      @samuelbabic9441 Před 5 lety +6

      In Slovak Medved means Bear

  • @Diederikk
    @Diederikk Před 7 lety +46

    Always been interested on your view on genetics and Indo-Europeans.
    The green screen is a bold move.

  • @patrickvandriel5350
    @patrickvandriel5350 Před 3 lety +4

    I really like your channel. You take on parts of history less known. Deep time :) Very well done.

    • @patrickvandriel5350
      @patrickvandriel5350 Před 3 lety +2

      By the way the indo-european word GEYSEL as you said prisoner, in Dutch it means to take prisoner to want something in return for. Like a hostage.

  • @lukamancini
    @lukamancini Před 5 lety +8

    Very high quality videos. Thank you. However regarding the wheel: the oldest wheel to date was found in what is now Slovenia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ljubljana_Marshes_Wheel It is 5000 years old. Found near Ljubljana which is subalpine region of the country.

  • @UltimateNinjaSrb
    @UltimateNinjaSrb Před 7 lety +54

    Also, if you want traces of the I-E creation myth and cattle, there is a Perun myth about his cattle being stolen by Veles which he then goes to retrieve because he is a warrior god who is not to be messed with, and since Veles is a shapeshifter who can take animal forms he causes trouble. There is also a story about Perun killing a giant serpent in the mountains which is related as well. But you probably know that because Thor does the same thing.
    Another interesting fact is the Vales is also called ''skotiyi bog/stočni bog'' meaning the ''cattle god'', and his name is related linguistically to Völsi, the Nordic fertility, phallus cult which I believe is also related to cattle and horses.

    • @random_shit_online6104
      @random_shit_online6104 Před 5 lety +2

      There is the story of Parshuram in the Vedic/Hindu mythology, who was a Brahmin. His father's cow 'Kamadhenu' was stolen by the pompous Kshatriyas of the kingdom and he(Parshuram) took a vow to kill the undeserving Kshatriyas. He retrieved the Kamadhenu and killed the undeserving warrior tribes(around 21 or 21 times i guess).

    • @vizionar28
      @vizionar28 Před rokem

      Two almost same religions...but in Slaws we have AllGod or Svarog. Svarog is the supreme incorporeal god, the primordial creator of the bright sky under whose roof "everything is born and happens." He is the forefather of the earth and every "kind and fruit", that is, everything on earth, but also the creator of the entire universe. This god was considered by all Slavs to be "full of glory and divinity" because he governs the sky that is above and beyond everything, yet includes everything. Svarog sleeps and in his sleep he created this world which he entrusted to Perun and the other gods to guard and keep the world. He cannot directly affect the physical, material environment he dreams of, but he can therefore influence the will of the other gods, and this is where his influence is enormous. His awakening will mark the end of the world. Alternative names: Rod and Usud. Ragnarok.

  • @zachary7109
    @zachary7109 Před 7 lety +5

    This is the sort of topic I want to start spending my life studying someday, thank you for sharing this information.

  • @armincal9834
    @armincal9834 Před 4 lety +26

    My name is armin(arian) from iran (the land of ariyans) and i speak Persian(a direct descendent of Avestan) i have a bronze skin color with pitch black hairs and large black eyes, i don't look northern european yet i am proud of my indo-european ancestors :)

    • @goulakh555
      @goulakh555 Před 3 lety

      go watch some david reich videos...

    • @BigMoney398
      @BigMoney398 Před 3 lety

      Persian is not descended from avestan. They are from different branches of the iranic language family

    • @armincal9834
      @armincal9834 Před 3 lety +3

      @@BigMoney398 you are right. Persian is not a direct descendant of Avestan,more like a sibling

    • @georgeevernight2814
      @georgeevernight2814 Před 3 lety +1

      Hi my persian brother, with jan from Armenia(land of arian people)

    • @armincal9834
      @armincal9834 Před 3 lety +2

      @PhasedPlasmaRifle InThe40WattRangeno my friend, ancient middle east was almost a 100% Semitic before the Iranian tribes arrived. Summerians, Babylonians Akkadians were all Semitic people. The only middle Eastern people who weren't Semitic were the Elamites.
      And yes I am probably mixed. The Iranian people are a mix of indo European, Semitic(not necessarily Arabic but also Babylonians Assyria etc), Turkic(they have immigrated to iran in many waves) and even some Mongolic(Mongol soldiers and their families who settled here)

  • @CulturedCarlo
    @CulturedCarlo Před 6 lety +1

    First video ive seen and I already subscribed few mins in!!!

  • @vangelderresike
    @vangelderresike Před 7 lety +12

    Awesome video StJ. And i'am really holding back in saying that.
    Maby a nice fact to add on how common bears probably were in these lands. In Xanten Germany they unearthed a Roman city and with that the foundation of a Roman Amfitheater (gladiator arena) which they rebuild and also can be seen. Go there, really. Anyways they also found a stone "manuscript" which read they catched fifty adult bears in six weeks for a tournament within the surrounding area that is the forests among the rhine river. imagine that without modern technologie in 6 weeks. And this was around the end of the first century AD, which is much later. Anyways looking forward to you next vid, great stuff!

  • @aidanwoodford8195
    @aidanwoodford8195 Před 7 lety +163

    just when you said cattle in creation i had a moment of clarity, in Norse mythology all water on earth came from the utters of a cow, and in Hinduism cows are very important, those are the two least similar and geographically most distant branches of the family connect, by super cows

    • @MegaMayday16
      @MegaMayday16 Před 5 lety +75

      holy cow

    • @jameshale1381
      @jameshale1381 Před 5 lety +26

      i find it fascinating that there are fairly direct ties between Hinduism and Norse mythology. As a former History major and Anthropology Minor, I won't say that I was completely unaware of the distant Indo-European connections, but I would have still seen those two systems as still fairly distant. And while nobody is suggesting that they're identical, the fact that they serve as a joint guide to the early belief systems is nonetheless amazing. While those two parts of the world might seem fairly remote, this video, among other things, clarifies why certain parts of the world are more closely related than what might otherwise be thought. Much will be taken from this video, but that might be my most notable aspect.

    • @luissuarez5153
      @luissuarez5153 Před 4 lety +4

      Cows are perfect animals for surveillance, they know perfectly that

    • @algonzalez6853
      @algonzalez6853 Před 4 lety +2

      so were "indians" miscegenated or did they just evolve to the climate

    • @arkadeepkundu4729
      @arkadeepkundu4729 Před 4 lety +28

      @@algonzalez6853 The modern Indians were formed from admixture between the Proto-Indo-Europeans who migrated into the subcontinent & the Dravidian peoples of the Indus valley civilization.
      Ironically, neither were the first people group in the subcontinent, that would be the old Indian hunter-gatherers, some of whom are still around today in a manner of speaking. They're called Aadivasi peoples (literally meaning old inhabitants)

  • @aivarasdarulis
    @aivarasdarulis Před 6 lety +75

    Found many similiarities between my language here, Lithuanian, the oldest Indo European language still spoken in Europe today. Koros - karas (war), kory - kariai (soldiers), ikis - akis (eye, Sanskrit), ignis - ugnis (fire), and so on. Interestingly, similiarities still remain in words that were relevant in such ancient times like to describe conflics and war, basic tools, body, dieties. Interesting stuff.

    • @geoffreyharris5931
      @geoffreyharris5931 Před 2 lety

      ignis is fire in latin, oculus, eye

    • @vincentfox4929
      @vincentfox4929 Před rokem +2

      Agni is sanskrit for fire

    • @langietor
      @langietor Před rokem +2

      we indian don't use sanskrit anymore, We know few words of sanskrit because it have many similarity with indian languages like - bengali , hindi etc.
      slavic/russian says ogun(fire). it also means same in hindi/bengali - agun/agni(fire).
      brother in law DEVER- devor(india language)

    • @langietor
      @langietor Před rokem +2

      oh , ikis - akis (eye, Sanskrit), we indian(bengali) use this words,

    • @Staerkebombe
      @Staerkebombe Před rokem

      *sound like mongol or turkish or hungarian to me, these words you mention ya akhiy*

  • @Translucent73
    @Translucent73 Před 5 lety +15

    Indo Europeans had a military advantage due to their larger tribal networks derived from a more mobile lifestyle developed in the western steppes. Essentially that meant that they where able to muster larger armies than their opponents could which was always a big help in winning battles. Later, superior chariot and horse warfare played a bigger factor than 'the network'.

    • @gshrdy5415
      @gshrdy5415 Před 5 lety +1

      What was Indo European population and why they had to migrate?.

  • @europeantraditionalist8183
    @europeantraditionalist8183 Před 7 lety +66

    Intelligent and well constructed video.

  • @patrickconnor5655
    @patrickconnor5655 Před 7 lety +16

    Very nicely explained. I've also heard that the spread of the Proto Indo Europeans can be partially explained by the emergence of the genetic mutation that allowed for the digestion of milk thus greatly favouring children's survival into adulthood.
    Thanks for the videos.

    • @iordanneDiogeneslucas
      @iordanneDiogeneslucas Před rokem +2

      I have always assumed lactose tolerance evolved due to strong natural selection against malnutrition.

  • @Jarvis_923
    @Jarvis_923 Před 3 lety +25

    Considering a lot of people disliked this clearly proves your point about this topic being controversial.
    Btw, that was not a hate comment.

    • @Dom-ny7vh
      @Dom-ny7vh Před 3 lety

      Yes it is

    • @maerythegreek9008
      @maerythegreek9008 Před 3 lety +4

      They are mostly acceptable by modern historians.
      The problem is the American theories about "CaUcAiAnS" ect that were written in 19century and peopel STILL use those terms and support these theories!
      You're free to do a research of course..

    • @seeyouingoolag6497
      @seeyouingoolag6497 Před 2 lety

      Dislikes are from envious Joggers/Shitlibs/Chews etc

    • @Jarvis_923
      @Jarvis_923 Před 2 lety

      @@maerythegreek9008 I know, I wasn’t disagreeing.

  • @kekaharris6618
    @kekaharris6618 Před 2 lety +1

    The lil bit of head off the pint. on ya beard distracted me lol. . I could not hear ya after that I was like wipe it! 😂😂😂I'm such a spesh

  • @alexandrbatora9674
    @alexandrbatora9674 Před 7 lety +6

    The bear taboo. Something I heard about from my father some fifteen years ago and ever since that, I'm fascinated with it.
    Lovely video. Our history is soo amazing!

  • @corwin8424
    @corwin8424 Před 7 lety +4

    Your content is MINT Love the channel!

  • @Ntron933
    @Ntron933 Před rokem +1

    Curious about the bear worship and euphemisms possibly being derived from contact with Uralic peoples, or perhaps an earlier ANE component. Avoiding the name of sacred/feared/revered animals is a common trait in Finno-Ugric languages, not limited to bears. In Hungarians "szarvas" is the word for deer which derives from "horned one", "farkas" for wolf meaning "tailed one". Northern Sami use the word "sarva" to refer to Moose/Elk with the same root for deer in Hungarian. I know this trait is present in Komi and Ob-Ugric languages as well, I do not yet know if this trait is present in Samoyedic or other Siberian languages (but bear worship certainly is).
    I'm not sure if the bear euphemism is present in indo-european languages other than those you mentioned, but they all stem from around the baltic sea and as such would have had extensive contact with Uralic groups, especially Finns and Sami. Russians in particular have heritage from a lot of assimilated Finno-Ugric tribes, and the Nordic peoples certainly have had plenty of contact with Finnic groups and cultural exchange.
    Bear cults are common across north Eurasia from the Finns to Khanty to Nganasan to the Nivkh and Ainu. All these groups have notable ANE heritage, so it could go that far back, or possibly be from more recent migrations and cultural exchange....

  • @graeme011
    @graeme011 Před 3 lety +8

    Very interesting, but I wish you hadn't mentioned the "bear" word. Now I am nervous every time I walk outside!

  • @muskoks5385
    @muskoks5385 Před 7 lety +211

    I've got to say, I'm a simple man. I see an STJ video, I like.

    • @muskoks5385
      @muskoks5385 Před 7 lety +3

      Never thought of it as a meme, but I guess it is. I really don't know where it comes from.

    • @alexandrbatora9674
      @alexandrbatora9674 Před 7 lety +8

      I really really like three YT channels:
      Varg is the most funny and he has wide range. #makemorewhitebabiesandblackmetal
      Lars has awesome ideas on survival and his awesome videoclips show the awesomness of Nature.
      Thomas, your soothing and calming videos are exactly what I need in this crazy-ass times.
      Love you guys!

    • @alexandrbatora9674
      @alexandrbatora9674 Před 7 lety +2

      Oopsss... Survival Russia. :-)

  • @brendankeane5725
    @brendankeane5725 Před 7 lety +80

    Re: "tewteh" or "people" survives in the Irish word "tuatha" meaning "tribe" or "people." Famously, the Irish pantheon is called Tuatha Dé Danaan, or the tribe of the goddess Danú. Her name is cognate with dána meaning "art" and may also be related to the English word "dawn," indicating the basic sun-moon-stars consciousness that prompts many religions.

    • @martinan22
      @martinan22 Před 7 lety +8

      Arent there stories of cattle raids in the Ulster Cycle?

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Před 7 lety +23

      "Tauta" in Lithuanian and Latvian for "nation".

    • @xmvziron
      @xmvziron Před 7 lety +5

      Brendan Keane Also, Dutch/Deutsch seems to related to tewteh.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Před 7 lety +1

      It is directly related.

    • @brendankeane5725
      @brendankeane5725 Před 7 lety +7

      Kuno Meyers worked on Germanic-Celtic connections before his work was interrupted by the World Wars. The sounds "th" and "d" are approximations of each other and give rise to "deus" and "theus" for example. It makes sense that "deutsch" and "tuatha" are connected. The connection of "germaine" and "German" or "frank" and "French" indicates to me a tendency whereby a language was once a sort of priesthood. Priests often call their association "bright ones" or "illuminated" or "truth seekers" or some such variation. The Irish for example refer to an "iris" and Gael means "glow" or "brightness." The Scots are named for "scoth" or "blossom" in Gaelic.

  • @sathiyamani2840
    @sathiyamani2840 Před 4 lety +12

    small correction there my man, Both the Sun and Moon Gods in Hinduism are male. Surya and Chandra are dudes :)

    • @krift1716
      @krift1716 Před 3 lety

      Not originally they weren't. In original PIE. The creation goddess was intimately connected with the bull of earth, but before she was a multi faceted sky goddess. Many iterations from Minoan/Sumer/Egyptian/Hindu/Armenian/Greece all have a Divine Twin "Hint" Where the Male Solar God, had a female aspect derived from Ashtar. Where we get "East". Where the sun rose. Hausea Goddess of the dawn. Was the Diwa/Daughter of Diwa-Pater (Sky Father). 4000 years ago this transformed PARA (Father OF Sun) to Piece of light. As in Child of. And the sun instead of being the child of the sky god, became The "FACE OF" or "KA" "QA" To emit. Like "Paravati" the female counterpart of Shiva, came to be known as "Piece of the mountain", but originally her name meant more like "gift of the father". Hindu isn't the origin. The origin is almost 10,000 years old. Sumer is next, then the Indus Valley, Then Asia, Egypt, and The pre Cycladic, Minoans/Greeks/ Phoenicians/Scythians, The Russians/The Celts. They were global travelers. The way these ancient people describe their gods as Tall/ lighter skinned/Blue eyes/ Red or blonde hair/beard. The indo-Europeans were Cro-Magnon hybrids. Who mated with and taught the Hindus, Natives and Buddhists. About all these things. There are thousands of year old Buddhist caves and scrolls that have Buddhist forefathers depicted on the walls. They've been axed, shot at, and tried to be scraped away. They show these forefathers as Red Haired Scythians/ With blue grey eyes. Atilla the Hun was described as red bearded with Grey eyes. His mother was said to be visited, by a giant blonde haired grey eyed man on a white horse who fathered Atilla. The Phoenicians (Phoenix people/red people/Wise people) wore shining armor, and had white horses and carts. The Vedas (i believe?) describe their god returning on a white horse to cleanse the land. We have pyramids in china where Tall blonde European mummies were found. We have the same things (almost 14,000 years old) in America. They are found near caves/mounds/walls where early sanskrit has been found. The mummies however turn out to be Caucasian.

  • @chanakyakautilya6954
    @chanakyakautilya6954 Před 6 lety +16

    Interesting words at 8:20 , I can relate them to Sanskrit -
    1. Bahvasav -> Breuh -> to make beer (asav)
    2. Goshthi - > Ghosti -> to discuss in group
    3. Gaus/Gau -> Gwous -> Cows ( cattle)
    4. Spardha -> Sprd -> to compete
    5. Vaik/Viz/Vansa (विश्) -> Weik -> Clan/lineage
    6. Vaikpati - > Weik-potis -> Head of Clan
    But I am unable to relate Heryos with Aryas.

    • @asheeshkumar1424
      @asheeshkumar1424 Před 5 lety +1

      Was Aachaarya ViShNudutta ChaaNakya black ? I am confused to this question.

    • @Sajjatayaan
      @Sajjatayaan Před 5 lety +1

      @@asheeshkumar1424 them eurocentric and afrocentric fools be driven me crazy!

    • @alzicario3466
      @alzicario3466 Před rokem +4

      Indians are not Indo european they just speak the language. Indo europeans were not dark brown.

    • @Concerned_one
      @Concerned_one Před rokem +1

      @@alzicario3466 how was the language brought to india tho?

    • @alzicario3466
      @alzicario3466 Před rokem +6

      @@Concerned_one by migrations, the indo Aryans became the ruling class in South Asia through superior technology and that’s why the caste system exists. Most modern Indians don’t have their blood, they just speak their language. Although Higher caste Indians have significant Aryan dna. The original Aryans were pale, with colored hair and colored eyes like the kalash, nuristanis and many Pashtuns today.

  • @architsharma2877
    @architsharma2877 Před 7 lety +151

    Just few modern Hindi words straight from proto indo European with exact meaning.
    gwous - gaus - cow ( cattle )
    sprd - Spardha - contest

    • @ahmedzs1
      @ahmedzs1 Před 6 lety +2

      archit sharma arabic has gamous/jamous for cow.

    • @Vithimerius
      @Vithimerius Před 6 lety +18

      Govs in Latvian

    • @FLMKane
      @FLMKane Před 5 lety +25

      @@ahmedzs1 arabic is afro asiatic, not indo european

    • @ahmedzs1
      @ahmedzs1 Před 5 lety +8

      @@FLMKane there is a bigger family that links afro-asiatic with indo-European through a bigger family called Nostratic family.

    • @FLMKane
      @FLMKane Před 5 lety +3

      @@ahmedzs1 Cite a reference because I dont believe that off the cuff.

  • @johnvictorengland7703
    @johnvictorengland7703 Před 5 lety +13

    Regarding bears, if you've ever seen a live bear in the forest you KNOW that our ancestors respected them. Anything else would be foolish. They didn't have guns back then. I can only imagine the terror you feel as a bear is charging you. Yeah you might be able to kill it with a bunch of spears and good hunting party, but it's just as likely that the bear will take one or two with you to the grave.

  • @Survivethejive
    @Survivethejive  Před 5 lety +41

    WhY iS hEaD sO biG? geT OuT oF WaY!

  • @Rashtrakuta
    @Rashtrakuta Před rokem +1

    Hi Survive the Jive I got my DNA info. I'm T2 from the maternal side, and L1a1 on the paternal side. Maternal grandfather has R1a. Am I Caucasian? How do I calculate steppe ancestry?

  • @Allworldsk1
    @Allworldsk1 Před 4 lety +4

    Please try to do a video on The Runes and explain what you can about them.

  • @chigimonky
    @chigimonky Před 7 lety +77

    I would like to hear your thoughts on the Basque people. Why are they so different linguistically from other Europeans? Also, what happened to the pre Celtic people of Britain that built Stonehenge? How much of their DNA is in modern Brits? Thanks for your videos.

    • @Wowzersdude-k5c
      @Wowzersdude-k5c Před 7 lety +57

      The Basque language is a relic and language isolate from the Neolithic (before the Indo-European invasions). However, the Basques are mostly R1b on the male side, which is an Indo-European marker, but for some reason they retained their old Neolithic language. It is rare for the females of a tribe to retain their native language when dominated by foreign males, but it is not unheard of. Why exactly the Basque language survived after being dominated by IE males is unknown. Many theories out there.
      As for Britain, we know that Stonehenge is about 4,000 years old (this is the estimate most scholars seem to agree on today). Stonehenge is similar to other megalithic monuments built all over Western Europe at the time which implies a cultural continuity throughout western Europe. In other words, the people of Stonehenge Britain were probably very closely related to people all over Western Europe (not just culturally, but genetically).
      A paper was published just a month or so ago focusing on the genetics of the Bell Beaker people of Central and Western Europe and how they fit into the demographics of Europe. The Bell Beaker people were prominent in Europe starting about 2700 BCE and disappeared in about 1800 BCE. Their culture was prominent in Britain just as it was on the continent. The question this paper wanted to answer was who were the Bell Beakers genetically?Were they Neolithic farmers or Yamnaya (Indo-European) or some combination of both? It turns out they were mostly Yamnaya (Steppe) according to DNA (and they sampled almost 100 ancient skeletons). I will quote you a portion of the abstract of the paper:
      "However, human migration did have an important role in the further dissemination of the Beaker Complex, which we document most clearly in Britain using data from 80 newly reported individuals dating to 3900-1200 BCE. British Neolithic farmers were genetically similar to contemporary populations in continental Europe and in particular to Neolithic Iberians, suggesting that a portion of the farmer ancestry in Britain came from the Mediterranean rather than the Danubian route of farming expansion. Beginning with the Beaker period, and continuing through the Bronze Age, all British individuals harboured high proportions of Steppe ancestry and were genetically closely related to Beaker-associated individuals from the Lower Rhine area. We use these observations to show that the spread of the Beaker Complex to Britain was mediated by migration from the continent that replaced >90% of Britain's Neolithic gene pool within a few hundred years, continuing the process that brought Steppe ancestry into central and northern Europe 400 years earlier."
      What this is saying is that Britain PRIOR to the Bell Beakers was mostly of Neolithic farmer heritage, similar to most of continental Europe (especially Iberia). However, when the Beakers came in, they replaced 90% of the British gene pool in only a few hundred years. This is astounding, yet DNA doesn't lie.
      As for Stonehenge, I suspect it was built just before the Steppic (IE) invasions into Britain. Why? Because the Yamnaya people never built megaliths on the Steppes or anywhere in Eastern Europe. This appears to be wholly a Neolithic farmer phenomenon. However, the Bell Beakers were already in Britain at the time Stonehenge was supposedly built, so either the dating of Stonehenge is wrong OR the Bell Beakers adopted some of the cultural practices of the native Neolithic Brits.

    • @TheM41a
      @TheM41a Před 6 lety +3

      Hiponakte no it isnt, R1b-M269 was found in nearly all yamnaya remains and was brought into western Europe by them. The R1b found in Europe prior to the IE invasions was R1b-V88, a much older subclade.

    • @TheM41a
      @TheM41a Před 6 lety +5

      Mathia Porrus 90% of it was replaced by beaker peoples, the DNA doesn't lie I'm afraid. Northern Europeans have far more IE DNA.

    • @TheM41a
      @TheM41a Před 6 lety

      Afghan Lion yes it is, and funnily enough no R1a was found in PIE yamnaya, only R1b

    • @GholaTleilaxu
      @GholaTleilaxu Před 5 lety +6

      @@Wowzersdude-k5c The Basque language survived because of their strong-willed women and their mostly forced isolation. And quite a bit of inbreeding.

  • @KenLattari
    @KenLattari Před 4 lety

    Hey Tom, In your opinion, what is the best DNA test I can buy ?

  • @_swagmeister
    @_swagmeister Před 5 lety +1

    What were the results of the then-upcoming study at 4:21 that Tom refers to?

  • @Getoffmycloud53
    @Getoffmycloud53 Před 4 lety +9

    So many words recognizable in Dutch, German, English or Latin. Fascinating, thank you.

  • @victorstrokov8181
    @victorstrokov8181 Před 2 lety +6

    Personally I'd be really interested if you could do a video about the proto-indo-european bear cult. That sounds fascinating

  • @lelandgrover603
    @lelandgrover603 Před 6 lety +1

    Survive the Jive I enjoy a lot of your content I can tell you & me have common interests.

  • @LaughingMan44
    @LaughingMan44 Před 3 lety

    Does anyone have a followup or link to the study Jive mentioned in this video? The one comparing ancient Greeks to modern Greeks. I tried searching his channel but can't find a video on it.

  • @soik1401
    @soik1401 Před 7 lety +3

    So what are your conclusions since we have DNA of Myceneans? It would be nice to make a video about that.

  • @giggletushjr
    @giggletushjr Před 6 lety +8

    My father gave me The Horse the Wheel and Language at age 14. Fascinating stuff. Drove an interest in indo-europeans

  • @_FrozenPanda_
    @_FrozenPanda_ Před 6 lety

    I'm a bit late to the party so I dont know if I get any response here. but could the finnish otso (old word for bear) be connected to the proto-european word?

  • @Scandinavianman9
    @Scandinavianman9 Před 5 lety +2

    Brilliant work my friend,thanyou,best wishes

  • @vgamedude12
    @vgamedude12 Před 4 lety +3

    Anyone have a link to what he mentioned early on about studies comparing modern Greeks to ancient ones ?

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Před 4 lety +3

      the study was very small and did not include high status burials. The presence of steppe DNA was discovered in Mycenaeans but not Minoans, so the IE theory is reinforced.

  • @alaskapowerlineadventures

    The not naming the bear story is the same among old Alaska natives. Athabascan and Denina people would just refer to bears as big animals. A similar way of dealing with bears as the Aryan. Perhaps.

    • @dulmater
      @dulmater Před 3 lety

      If I'm not mistaken both Indo-Europeans and Native Americans descend from ANE (Ancient North Eurasians), could be a myth dating back to that time before the split.

  • @Lompazius26
    @Lompazius26 Před 6 lety

    What a great Video... Thank you so mouch...! I have one Question: The Mythologie you talking about (Dyaus Pitar...) is from the RgVeda right?

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Před 6 lety +1

      other way around. Dyaus Pitar's name is derived from the same name as Jupiter and Zeus and Tyr

  • @deanturner9959
    @deanturner9959 Před 6 lety

    Love the synths man, your stories are great

  • @christinawendorff942
    @christinawendorff942 Před 5 lety +4

    Would be interesting to see all the europaen groups at the chart (from 3:39 onwards). Big parts are missing, for example Germany, Poland, Denmark, Romania .

    • @steffenlib1382
      @steffenlib1382 Před 4 lety

      Yeah that list annoys me. Seen it a few times already asking the same question everytime. Why would you leave those huge regional parts out. Makes no sence.

  • @mysteryneophyte
    @mysteryneophyte Před 6 lety +1

    Was that burzum when u show the brown one, honey eater after speaking his name?

  • @bernardo3142
    @bernardo3142 Před 3 lety

    What´s up, my man?! Can you please recommend me the basic bibliography on the Proto-Indo-Europeans? Marija Gimbutas? I am fascinated by this subject and wish to further expand my knowledge.

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 Před 3 lety

      If you want to expand your knowledge, stay away from Gimbutas, or at least from her more recent devotees. She was a brilliant woman but far too prone to create and believe in her own mythology and then try to shoehorn the evidence to support it.

  • @BNSFGuy4723
    @BNSFGuy4723 Před 6 lety +2

    Great explanation! Helped me a lot

  • @Leonidas-xx7yw
    @Leonidas-xx7yw Před 7 lety +41

    2 things :
    - the proto-indo-european word for sun is *sóh₂wl̥ , and it's neutral... and it rapidly turned into *sawelios which is male. So the sun was actually initially male.
    - the yamnaya had dark eyes. The blue eyes genetic variant is absent from the yamnaya gene pool (Morten E. Allentoft study)

    • @combatantezoteric2965
      @combatantezoteric2965 Před 5 lety +2

      Maybe because originally they know that everything is better as androgynous..lol.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Před 5 lety +5

      the sun deity was not male, nearly every IE religion has a female sun deity. . blue eyes comes from WHG as I said in other videos many times.

    • @combatantezoteric2965
      @combatantezoteric2965 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Survivethejive Same for the very archaic Japanese religion. The sun is a female deity.

    • @yaddayadda7595
      @yaddayadda7595 Před 5 lety

      @@combatantezoteric2965 cringe

    • @combatantezoteric2965
      @combatantezoteric2965 Před 5 lety +3

      @Turok Hilsen Then Amaterasu is what?

  • @giansideros
    @giansideros Před 2 lety +1

    Noticing others in the comments (before finishing the video) discuss "medved" the Slavic word for "bear" had me thinking it's the original Indo-European word till I watched at 15:00.
    I almost thought Punjabi derived a completely different word from elsewhere but we also conserved "rtkos" as ਰਿੱਛ or rech (sounds like wretch but the ch sounds more like a Polish "cz"). So it's not just Latin or Greek, I'd say the Sanskrit based one derives it best between the 3.

  • @redsunrises8571
    @redsunrises8571 Před 4 lety +1

    Every time you look at the camera seriously and ask a question at the beginning of the video, I'm expecting you to point at the camera and follow it with "let's find out"

  • @pan-europeanmovement3078
    @pan-europeanmovement3078 Před 5 lety +3

    Then tewteh - tribe, people ( 8:43) is also related to the words Deutsch and Dutch, which have the same meaning, and to the root Theod in the name Theoderic -> Dietrich, Terry etc.

  • @westernman7715
    @westernman7715 Před 7 lety +18

    Would love to see you do a video on the r1b and r1a haplogroup division that causes much autistic screeching in our circles. Would like to see how you think it correlates with Aryan people's and whether r1b has a claim to Aryan status or not. I havnt seen anyone tackle this properly and I believe you are the man for the task

    • @swevixeh
      @swevixeh Před 7 lety +6

      R1b does have a claim to proto-Aryan status (and a strong one at that). It was present in both the early PIE Samara culture and in the late PIE Yamnaya culture. Check out this paper (Haak et al. 2015, "Massive migration from the steppe is a source for Indo-European languages in Europe"):
      biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/02/10/013433
      It took a long time before this conclusion was reached (or, rather, before the evidence was uncovered). 15 years ago, it was believed to have been natively ice age western European. 5 years ago, it was believed to be a mediterranean late Neolithic farmer lineage.
      Every subclade within R1b originated in the steppes. A recent study (Mathieson et al. 2017) found R1b-V88, the earliest branch to split off from R1b, in a man from Mesolithic Ukraine. Today, this lineage is almost exclusively found in Central Africans, meaning that ancient steppe tribes migrated all the way to subsaharan Africa. It bears mentioning that this man was overall very genetically similar to the EHG ancestors of the proto-Indo-Europeans, who lived in the same area.

    • @kakibackup2koujo612
      @kakibackup2koujo612 Před 7 lety

      Western Man forgot I1

    • @OfficialShadowKing
      @OfficialShadowKing Před 7 lety +1

      Western Man
      I am Iranian, my haplogroup is consisted of 23% R1a and 32% R1b and 15% G2

    • @TheM41a
      @TheM41a Před 6 lety

      Afghan Lion r1b is IE

    • @Oscuros
      @Oscuros Před 5 lety +1

      @@swevixeh The outline you linked to has none of what you just mentioned in it.
      But it does say this though,
      ""the Yamnaya steppe herders of this time were descended not only from the preceding eastern European hunter-gatherers, but from a population of Near Eastern ancestry.""
      So it's miscegenated immigrants of near Eastern Descent that you're claiming as Aryan.
      You seem a little bit deluded and not true to your racist ideals.
      Right below an Iranian proved to be of those types.
      Do you look like a fucking Iranian? No, you look like an ugly barbarian with recessive genes, desperate to claim other cultures as yours while disparaging the real people those cultures belong to.

  • @sillysad3198
    @sillysad3198 Před 3 lety

    since PIE is a reconstructed lang, how do you exclude the possibility of contaminating it with our (modern or otherwise anachronistic) meanings of the words, interpretations and language practices?

  • @peterjones7886
    @peterjones7886 Před 5 měsíci

    Cheers Very informative. Any revised recent edition of this? Too much echo on speech.

  • @camerasessions5134
    @camerasessions5134 Před 6 lety +4

    interesting topic! It always amazes me to find similarities between russian, swedish and italian...

  • @Edwinvet420
    @Edwinvet420 Před 3 lety +4

    I like your content, never thought I would say this about a far-right channel but you're a very respectful guy with a lot of knowledge of stuff that is very interesting so I'm going to keep binge watching your videos, I don't really care about your leanings, you're cool and respectful

    • @moonchild6392
      @moonchild6392 Před 3 lety

      What exactly about this is far right?

    • @Edwinvet420
      @Edwinvet420 Před 3 lety

      @@moonchild6392 the channel? have you checked the channel's owner's bio?

    • @moonchild6392
      @moonchild6392 Před 3 lety

      @@Edwinvet420 no, where can I see that? Would be a pity, I really liked the videos I watched so far

    • @francoisdaureville323
      @francoisdaureville323 Před 3 lety

      @@Edwinvet420 what about his bio is a normal bio this got nothing to do with far right

    • @Edwinvet420
      @Edwinvet420 Před 3 lety

      @@francoisdaureville323 you really don't know who this guy is??????? Look him up

  • @TheAcarch2
    @TheAcarch2 Před 6 lety

    Learning a lot, glad I subsribed.

  • @RegginaAmaranto
    @RegginaAmaranto Před 5 lety

    I have one question, when the bear appeared, was that Burzum playing in the background?

  • @corbinbingham6169
    @corbinbingham6169 Před 5 lety +3

    Why was Ireland left out of the genetic mapping chart? Especially with the obvious linguistic connections.