Nassim Taleb on Black Monday, Fed, Market Lessons

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  • čas přidán 15. 10. 2017
  • Oct.16 -- The Black Monday crash was 30 years ago this week. "Black Swan" author Nassim Taleb was a trader for First Boston at the time. He made a lot of money while others lost fortunes. He recounts the experience with Bloomberg's Erik Schatzker.

Komentáře • 126

  • @mikeblack9109
    @mikeblack9109 Před 6 lety +197

    The reporter was actually quite respectful and polite this time. Very good, doesn't interrupt

    • @requiemforamerica8432
      @requiemforamerica8432 Před 6 lety +1

      Hifza ahmed yeah last time he was just an anti trump ideologue and kept trying to lead the interview and turn it into his own diatribe

    • @jamrollz
      @jamrollz Před 5 lety

      He reads the comments lol

    • @ladgrove
      @ladgrove Před 5 lety +6

      He's a great interviewer for NNT. They get on well.

    • @Regular.Biceps
      @Regular.Biceps Před 4 lety +1

      Not a good idea to interrupt NNT

    • @perezpepito104
      @perezpepito104 Před 4 lety

      He is off the coke now.

  • @dmonarredmonarre3076
    @dmonarredmonarre3076 Před 4 lety +79

    This is what happens if you get Tony Soprano to read books

  • @vytautas456
    @vytautas456 Před 5 lety +95

    'It's very easy to sell people a seatbelt that only works if there's no accident, it's gonna be very comfortable. If there's an accident, they're gonna die, they're not going to complain.' Brilliant

    • @adamblomberg
      @adamblomberg Před 4 lety

      Except their relatives and testing agencies.

    • @5Gazto
      @5Gazto Před 3 lety

      That doesn't make sense. What about the victim's relatives?

    • @FirstLast-tx3yj
      @FirstLast-tx3yj Před 2 lety

      @@adamblomberg they are also wearing seatbelts...
      In the markets everybody crashes at the same time

    • @adamblomberg
      @adamblomberg Před 2 lety

      @@FirstLast-tx3yj In the markets yeah, not traffic accidents. It would be very obvious when the first hundred dies after wearing a seatbelt, undermining public trust.

    • @FirstLast-tx3yj
      @FirstLast-tx3yj Před 2 lety

      @@adamblomberg public trust is also lost in the case of crashes and bailouts where it is known that people hate the politicians during a massive economic crash

  • @justinwr092
    @justinwr092 Před 6 lety +74

    Wow I found a youtube gem. Brilliant. The interviewer won't have too many interviews like this in his career. He looks like he's in awe. I'm working my way through all of Taleb's books btw. Life changing stuff.

    • @philocleandes9302
      @philocleandes9302 Před 5 lety +6

      His notion of skin in the game is so refreshing. It can be used as a heuristic to cut through so much bullshit.

    • @joeg8304
      @joeg8304 Před 4 lety

      He's an interesting contrast. As a person, he's a jackass who spouts of mindlessly. In his fields of finance, risk, and statistics he's an insightful force to be reckoned with.

    • @MrDrey787
      @MrDrey787 Před 4 lety +2

      @@joeg8304 he's a teddy bear who likes to act snarky on twitter and throw shade at IYI Harvard-Soviet fragilistas in his books. Why do u think hes a jackass?

    • @colefaulk982
      @colefaulk982 Před 3 lety

      MrDrey787 yea I’ve never quite understood why so many people say this stuff about him. He has his convictions and doesn’t waver from them. I don’t see how that makes him a jackass or someone who just “spouts off mindlessly”

  • @Value-Investing
    @Value-Investing Před 6 lety +94

    Nasim is amazing, I really recommend his books especially if you are a trader or investor, so much to learn from him and so much common sense that nobody cares about in this market!

    • @nv3796
      @nv3796 Před 6 lety

      Thanks

    • @nv3796
      @nv3796 Před 6 lety +3

      Q> Why do people still use the Black Scholes models?
      NNT’s A> Because they don’t pay for there losses. Some one else pays for their losses.

    • @kreteman777
      @kreteman777 Před 6 lety +1

      Love your channel Sven.

    • @reehji
      @reehji Před 5 lety

      Hi again, and I just ordered the incerto set ;)

    • @marvindube3572
      @marvindube3572 Před 5 lety

      Invest with Sven Carlin, Ph.D. really thnx bro will di

  • @mckeesk
    @mckeesk Před 4 lety +33

    14:57 "We had options we had bought for $10,000 . . . they were selling for 17 million."

  • @marcusmarcula
    @marcusmarcula Před 6 lety +11

    One of his best interviews, albiet he rarely gives interviews unless they are short or to selective few.

  • @azwan1992
    @azwan1992 Před 6 lety +16

    Thanks for uploading. This is brilliant.

  • @letsif
    @letsif Před 3 lety +2

    One can learn a lot about life in general and human behavior, through understanding how one thing works. Taleb is on one of our teachers.

  • @enzodalfiorantunes5365
    @enzodalfiorantunes5365 Před 6 lety +10

    What a pleasant conversation!

  • @jackglore4043
    @jackglore4043 Před 4 lety +7

    nassim if you ever read this i just want to thank you so much... you saved my life.. jack from syria

    • @FirstLast-tx3yj
      @FirstLast-tx3yj Před 3 lety

      شو صار معك؟

    • @joskxy
      @joskxy Před měsícem

      great to hear!
      mind if i ask you what all ideas helped you and how? thanks

  • @gordongordon98
    @gordongordon98 Před 3 lety +1

    This is great stuff. I about to begin my 3rd Taleb book. I am a big fan, also appreciate Peter Lynch, Charlie Munger, Joel Greenblatt...

  • @wdjaz
    @wdjaz Před 6 lety +25

    "It's very easy to sell people a seat belt, that only works if there is no accident." mic drop @ 21:40

    • @philocleandes9302
      @philocleandes9302 Před 5 lety +3

      In other words, so much of human need is dependent on only hearing what we want to hear.

  • @KevinPillow
    @KevinPillow Před 5 lety +6

    The best part is the last 30 seconds, the Bob Rubin trade

  • @yogeeswarpal
    @yogeeswarpal Před rokem

    The back spread he explains in the 2 minutes is the simplest it comes to explaining buying the OTM options as a portfolio holding.

  • @braaitongs
    @braaitongs Před rokem +1

    I would love to know which options he bought. I reckon retail investors do not have access to those options.

  • @danielracovitan9779
    @danielracovitan9779 Před 3 lety +1

    A legend. And the seatbelt analogy :)

  • @blah148
    @blah148 Před 2 lety +1

    the bravery of this guy to actually call out the system is huge. We’re lucky that he’s as good of a teacher as a thinker

  • @Alloverthegolf
    @Alloverthegolf Před 4 lety

    How about new hunters for black swans isn't timing became better and better for short side of market?

  • @LGseeker
    @LGseeker Před 4 lety +11

    Naval from Angellist got me into Nassim 💯

  • @mikefatah
    @mikefatah Před 6 lety +4

    “Black Swan” was a great book and an outstanding work by Nassim Taleb. At the time of its release and around the time I first read the book, I didn’t realize how prolific of a role his book would play later on.

  • @takashikashiwase3461
    @takashikashiwase3461 Před 6 lety +30

    Nassim Taleb for Historical Philosopher, Practitioner, Mathematician, writer, and Human

  • @timfelsky
    @timfelsky Před 6 lety +7

    Powerful

  • @oloffrojd3368
    @oloffrojd3368 Před 6 lety +3

    The master

  • @dundoderdumme3044
    @dundoderdumme3044 Před 5 lety +2

    Can anyone explain to me how you can be "set up to be harmed by a small move"? Can you buy options on volatility itself? Like a VIX option?

    • @EnsonPortela
      @EnsonPortela Před 5 lety +3

      Dundo Der Dumme no you cannot by options of vix! But you can arrange a position of puts and calls of any asset in a way that if the market moves a little you lose a bit; if the market moves a lot you make a lot! And that is independent of the direction that the underlying market moves!

    • @dundoderdumme3044
      @dundoderdumme3044 Před 5 lety +1

      @@EnsonPortela Is there a name for it? Can I look up how it works? I really don't understand how you can aquire such a position with options :D

    • @EnsonPortela
      @EnsonPortela Před 5 lety +10

      Dundo Der Dumme a typical example is that you buy OTM calls and buy OTM puts. If the market moves a little or doesn’t move you lose a bit ( OTMs are cheap). If the market moves a lot your OTMs might become ITMs and you make a lot of money. I have seen options going from 5 cents to 10 dollars. Taleb says on the video that he bought 10k of OTM and sold it for 17M!

    • @petarz9029
      @petarz9029 Před 4 lety +2

      yes, you *CAN* buy VIX options, and they are a great way to play volatility. If you are interested in options strategies, just search CZcams, Zacks has a channel with good options strategy content.

  • @Molloy1951
    @Molloy1951 Před 6 měsíci

    Genius. Not only because he understands complex phenomenons but especially because he clearly identifies obvious consequences that just few people do.

  • @purukarna
    @purukarna Před 6 lety +9

    Brilliant

    • @231wildy
      @231wildy Před 6 lety +1

      His views are very insightful. If anyone has not read his book "Fooled by Randomness", it is a must read. But, I guess most would have read his book by now. Awesome and pragmatic views.

  • @grumfeldvanderspooijwanker1627

    Wow, NNT with Bloomberg?

  • @royreyes8422
    @royreyes8422 Před 4 lety +1

    beautiful ... just wolfed Psei 5100 and ES1 snp 2525 ... march 12, 2020 fri the greater bull run is on day 1 to fresh highs.. thanks bloomberg

  • @marijnstollenga1601
    @marijnstollenga1601 Před 5 lety

    I'm inspired to get some options now

  • @macclark4112
    @macclark4112 Před 6 lety +17

    Money disappears regularly in such volatile markets. Wealth never disappears,it is simply transferred to others.

  • @paulerosier6948
    @paulerosier6948 Před 5 lety

    + de vidéos en français, s'il vous plaît. Merci.

  • @nrpbrown
    @nrpbrown Před rokem

    I'm really happy he's seen Trading Places, he doesn't seem like much of a movies guy

  • @ariedtrades
    @ariedtrades Před 4 lety

    Selling seatbelt thing reminded me on Warren Buffett on selling insurance for nuclear bomb. When it happen we all die while it didn't happen he get to keep the money.

  • @19battlehill
    @19battlehill Před 6 lety +12

    To see the obvious is easy and he did that -- he got lucky that he timed them right. That is random luck, and I think he would be the first to admit this.

    • @w0ttheh3ll
      @w0ttheh3ll Před 4 lety +1

      in his book "the black swan" he specifically recommends that people don't become traders. while that's a job where you could make millions in a single day, the chances of that happening are so very low. with a regular job, you can reliably earn a living.

  • @vimalb88
    @vimalb88 Před 6 lety +18

    "Someone else pays for their losses"

  • @ninetyninecent
    @ninetyninecent Před 6 lety +3

    continental illinois and rtc was volcker, not greesnpan

  • @prasannanidumolu7508
    @prasannanidumolu7508 Před 6 lety +14

    Tony Soprano is back!

    • @kitzchim
      @kitzchim Před 6 lety

      Prasanna Nidumolu better taste in suits though

    • @DUDINCHI
      @DUDINCHI Před 5 lety

      Horizontally challenged tony

  • @willdehne1
    @willdehne1 Před 6 lety +6

    I read his books, follow his speeches, agree with most his ideas.
    Implementing his ideas is not easy for me. I guess I am not as smart.
    All I have been able to do is diversify.

    • @seanyboyclutch
      @seanyboyclutch Před 6 lety +3

      Wilfried Dehne buy out of the money put options...

    • @adriand9526
      @adriand9526 Před 6 lety +3

      If you have no experience with options don't buy them.

    • @EnsonPortela
      @EnsonPortela Před 5 lety

      @Alexander Bayer Also, I do not know what is he approach to select how Out of the money should the option be!

    • @danielracovitan9779
      @danielracovitan9779 Před 3 lety

      @@seanyboyclutch it is not that simple; you have to carefully pick the put options writer, otherwise if they default you won't be able to call the options when they get into the money

    • @danielracovitan9779
      @danielracovitan9779 Před 3 lety

      @Alexander Bayer it is no more valid today; as of 2021 he stays away from long term sovereign bonds, from currencies and stocks; likes gold, put options, and very short term fixed-income securities

  • @zelareka
    @zelareka Před 5 lety +11

    taleb is a very smart manbaby

  • @Russel_at_whatever
    @Russel_at_whatever Před 5 lety

    there was no EUR/USD trading at that time, because Euro didn't exist then. what are they talking about?!

  • @luosongsu7456
    @luosongsu7456 Před 3 lety

    the way he talks made me think of the kid with no tooth on Strange Things

  • @-Bearito
    @-Bearito Před 4 lety

    Don't mean to be rude, but big moves on the Euro/Dollar pair on Black Monday in 87? The Euro did not exist at the time ;-)

    • @leonardovalencia8928
      @leonardovalencia8928 Před 4 lety +1

      EuroDollars is an interest rate instrument and it is not related to the Euro currency at all (despite the name). I would say it is one of the most popular (if not the most popular) futures contract offered in the USA.

    • @-Bearito
      @-Bearito Před 4 lety

      @@PaulRBerg Thx, I didn't know that. Indeed, one could swear it was designed to be confusing =/

  • @MISTERASMODEUS
    @MISTERASMODEUS Před 6 lety +1

    Well at least Greenspan did one thing right...

  • @sourabhvora2164
    @sourabhvora2164 Před 4 lety

    Rather share the exact opposite. Did you buy? No, i sold

  • @hamptaylor
    @hamptaylor Před rokem

    Pretty sure that aphorism at the end is plagiarized from Friedman 😂

  • @lenguyenthanhhuy4149
    @lenguyenthanhhuy4149 Před rokem

    Thử 91,000,000,000 tỷ vận may từ sự bất định của thị trường và có thời hạn có điểm dừng 600 tỷ/ thánh

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 Před rokem

    manic mondays are always black mondays.

  • @sourabhvora2164
    @sourabhvora2164 Před 4 lety

    oh my god, still using his playbook to not share what he does. Short volatility.

  • @Joe-jc5ol
    @Joe-jc5ol Před 4 lety +5

    I was shocked that he was saying something nice about Alan Greenspan and then he followed up with "it's the only good thing he did in his life" He really really hates him lol

  • @Senecamarcus
    @Senecamarcus Před 5 lety

    Erik my man u would be better at the Zoo with how u do new interviews

  • @ycnexu
    @ycnexu Před 6 lety +2

    Love Taleb, and he said it himself that he talks this way on purpose, but I gotta say I can't comprehend his muttering and hiccups. He speaks a bit like a drunkard, actually :)

    • @gomertube
      @gomertube Před 6 lety

      Yes, I do pity those who try following him without having read one of his books beforehand.

  • @aza1479
    @aza1479 Před 4 lety +2

    2020 march anyone

  • @lukecashin
    @lukecashin Před 6 lety +1

    Second.

  • @roayahelal4617
    @roayahelal4617 Před 6 lety +1

    72nd and first is not soho ~

    • @kitzchim
      @kitzchim Před 6 lety +1

      shut the fuck up no one gives a shit

  • @sourabhvora2164
    @sourabhvora2164 Před 4 lety

    yea yea. Swaps on Credit default Swaps. You actually know what make the most money. Hahaha. Cough cough.

  • @milarovas4363
    @milarovas4363 Před 4 lety +1

    To summarize, he got very lucky and made a lot of money betting on the stock market.

  • @artelc
    @artelc Před 2 lety

    He is repulsive.