Documentary on Union Pacific 844.
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Stats on UP 844:
Builder American Locomotive Company
Serial number 72791
Build date December 1944
Configuration 4-8-4
Gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 (standard gauge)
Driver diameter 80 in
Length Loco & tender 114 ft 5 in
Adhesive weight 266,490 pounds or 133.24 tons
Loco weight 490,700 pounds or 245.35 tons
Tender weight 421,550 pounds or 210.77 tons
Total weight 912,250 pounds or 456.12 tons
Fuel type No. 5 fuel oil, originally coal
Fuel capacity 6,200 US gal
Water capacity 23,500 US gal
Boiler pressure 300 psi
Maximum speed 120 mph
Power output 4,500 hp
Tractive effort 66,800 lbs
Factor of adhesion 4.18
Operators Union Pacific Railroad
Class FEF-3
Numbers 844 (8444 from 1962-1989)
Disposition Operational, based on Cheyenne, Wyoming, in roundhouse
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So? Any strikes?
I watched that episode when I was little I called it trains number 4.😊 1:14
This is one of my favorite documentaries 844 from when she left the factory in 1944 all the way to the beginning of her excursion career. Most of the shots seen in this video where used on a couple shows back in the eighties and nineties and I can name all them off the top of my head in order that they were made ghost trains was the first one, following that was Shining Time Station, she appeared on When Giants Roamed twice and Trains Unlimited 17 times including the episode Age of Steam, and her most recent appearance was on Extreme Trains where she just returned to life after extensive rebuild. 844 the Queen of the Rails, the Star of the Train World, and yes the Living Legend herself 844 will always be my friend I am glad that steam shop is always taking care of her she is the face of the Union Pacific and the ambassador of good will. Soon her brothers will be awaked and the last surviving engines of their classes will take to the rails to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the railroad and the Golden Spike. 844 is back in service and soon Big Boy and 3985 will be back in service also I can't wait.
14:13 very interesting to see. It’s like the 844 is having surgery! I saw her once and hope to see her again!
Bruce Tharpe mee tooo Sir! Family History
How ironic seeing 844 assisting stalled diesels.
If they thought 844 was handy to have at that particular moment, imagine their eyes if 4014 had showed up, LOL.
She's the living legend and she never retired
That lucky 5 year old boy getting to ride on steam locomotive for his last wish.
Long Nguyen yes, it was very nice of up to do that for him
I feel bad for that Kid:(
R.I.P
@@manageable_f164 rip rip rip
The 844 and the big boy must be such good brothers :)
sisters
GamingJamesGames 8444 is a She !! Sherman Hill Gang! WhoootWhooooot! 4004 , 4005, 4014 Big BoyZ! WhoootWhooooot! 4014 Hello 👋 On Wheels! Cheyenne Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 history and hell on wheels... i saw it! Lived it WhoootWhooooot
How are they brothers? There a compltey diffrent class
Actually, its brother and sister
I want to see the 844 in real life. It looks so amazing!
She is truly incredible! WhoootWhooooot 8444... she’s always gonna be UP8444 my late Beloved Brother in Law is “ UPRR Locomotive 🚂 Engineer William “ Bill “ Riley Sr! Operations of Steam Locomotive 🚂 8444! WhoootWhooooot! A lot of the footage is from my old Wyoming home and Back Yard!! My old Play Ground set WhoootWhooooot is 4004!! Big Boy and Ol Sadie!! WhoootWhooooot Cheyenne Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 Railroadies! Yesssssireeee WhoootWhooooot!! Make me cry like a Big Boy Steam Whistle!!! Whooooooo Whoooooo .... both 8444 and the diesel 844!! I WhooootWhooooot! 4014 “ Big Boy Lives Again! Ambassadors! “ Hello 👋 on WheeeLs ! Nunn Colorado USA 🇺🇸 WhoootWhooooot Grampa Foggs Lazy D Grazing Assn from Chaulk Bluffs Rd S CheyTown into Colorado USA 🇺🇸 20 miles+ of Cattle pasture! Yes indeed Howard Fogg is also our family’s relation!! WhoootWhooooot!! Maybe someday my Late Brother-in-law “ William “ Bill” Riley Sr can get one of those rail passenger cars of UPRR names William R Riley Sr.... to go on the Tours ... Railroad 🛤 History....Gold Spike Award 🥇 WhoooOotWhoooooT! My FAMILY
Both 4014 and 844 are running
Oke YES
What a great and impressive documentary on the Union Pacific rr fef class 4-8-4 locomotives and specifically the 844, Union Pacific had a variety of famous examples of steam power during the steam era. The UP 844 has an impressive operation history and I really enjoy seeing the 844 in the "greyhound" style paint scheme, UP should repaint the 844 back into that scheme again.
The 16 down votes are from the crews that were pushed by this train after they broke down and needed grandpa to get them home.
Sadly, not anymore.
If they still make these, they should do 4014 when it returns
4014 is running right now
Brooke Wilson Clemons ahatbears commented before it was in reasteration
I wish 844 was still in Greyhound paint, she looks so handsome in it.
Me too, but apparently they had problems with the paint always getting dirty.
2:51 is when one of the FEF's reached 124 mph, so close to beating the Mallard.
CSCR_TRAIN_844 h
we were close bud very close
Well, mallard hit 125.88 once, these things where ment for regular service at 95-110mph. So there still slightly better then the A4
It’s almost more impressive that the FEF3’s could run their speed all day long without streamlining, where the far lighter and streamlined Mallard run a fast speed once. It’s like seeing a Ferrari go 200mph and a Buick Roadmaster going 195mph..
Yep
Now, that's what I call a well-oiled machine!
I Love This Locomotive
2:46 Bill Waldrop: The 800 class locomotives were designed to maintain speads of 110 miles per hour. At Jacinto, Nebraska, one 800 class locomotive was recorded at a spead 124 miles per hour, pulling a fast limited passenger train.
Union pacific 844 goes to strasburg railroad first time in 2022
Now if we can arrange 611 and 844 to double head! I think it would be great to do a cross country excursion for veterans and to raise awareness for veteran suicide. 22 of us die each day. I think the railroads can help. Do something like a Roanoke VA to Cheyenne WY. Or Washington DC to San Francisco. Maybe convert some of the support cars dedicating each branch of the armed services. And maybe haul cars of various military equipment from ww2 to the war on terrorism.
eggomania j class 611 cant its coal fired not oil
I grew up near the New York Central', (big 4) Cleveland city by pass. When I was about 4 years old, my dad and I ran to see my very first train. Imagine seeing 3 NYC versions of this loco (Niagara's) at the head end of a freight, with 2 more mid train, and one more pushing at the rear. Needless to say, I've had the smell and sound and feel of steam locos ever since, I'm 73. I just love the sound of 844's deep throat whistle, sometimes I get a bit of a chill run through my body, just for the love of trains. ;-)
I watched this episode when it came out it is an amazing story towards the end of this episode where 844 pushes a stalled freight up Archer. It was amazing back in April when I was given a rare opportunity to take part in the Operation Lifesaver Special as part of the Boise Turn Heritage Tour. Operation Lifesaver and I go a long way back I actually helped them out a couple of times. This was a thank-you gift to me for following rail safety and plus it was a dream come true for me when I got to ride 844.
UP I take my hat off to the steam crew and there huge effort to keep these magnificent living machines. 844, 3985, and 4014. On the road.
I'll watch it again and again and again.. Hear that lonesome whistle blow. (Johnny Cash)
Another spellcheck failure. Their. Lol
I was able to ride the Boise Turn from Boise to Glenn's Ferry. It's an incredible opportunity to ride behind steam.
this one steam locomotive is more Special then LNER mallard , 844 is longest running steam locomotive in to world never retired , And I hope she still running at 100 year old and she can do this as she 78 years old now that all down how UP look after its Locomotive fleet
If Art Lockman were still with us he'd tell you that the UP 800 class were the best steam locomotives ever built.
I’d like to be the engineer on that train. How do people do that
Jonathan Erickson ask those people who did it!! Edwina Justice our “ Curly Jo” my late Beloved Bro gave proper Locomotive 🚂 instructor to many Locomotive 🚂 Engineers!! Apply at UPRR!! WhoootWhooooot 27:22 and Hillsdale!!! Pine Bluffs and Burns... Archer Grade and the Blizzard of 1979 trains Stuck!! TJoes was not yet there.. or Sapp Bro’s.. can you digg it! Wyoming History and Railroadies History!! WhoootWhooooot
The Large 4-8-4 was never from active roster by UP and she's out of the Twilight of Union Pacific Steam and she's kept going strong was Union Pacific #844 has been renumbered 8444 (1962-1989)
Being 58 1/2 years old; trains don't look right without a caboose!
Agreed
They don't look right without steam and smoke gushing out the stack.either.
I love 844 union Pacific steam train
I love it....she's beautiful especially when no diesel assist
Or when it helps a non-working diesel!
Thank you for posting this!!
Johnny Rossman 👍
While Big Boy was being resurrurected 844 and 3595 did all of steam work for UP. I understand that 3595 will be retired and not restored?great video thank you.
You mean 3985
Fun fact: 4-6-6-4 Challenger 3710 (mentioned at 3:38-3:40) is actually the 3977 renumbered
You know they are planning on restoring this engine right
are you sure?
locomotive.wikia.com/wiki/Union_Pacific_3710
Alex D Yea. That locomotive that you linked below was renumbered in 1949 because of a coal strike (The Union Pacific renumbered 10 of the "early" Challengers by simply replacing the 8 with a seven, example 3810 became the 3710) but the U.P. renumbered that same engine again back to 3810 in 1950 (along with the other 9 "early" 4-6-6-4s that were numbered in the 3700 series). Now the "big" Challengers (which 3985 and 3977 are examples of) started being renumbered to the 3700 series in 1952. The U.P. converted to oil firing and renumbered 18 of the "big" Challengers (the conversion to oil firing started in the late 40s). 3975-3984 became 3708-3717 (with the 3977 becoming the 3710). The 3977 was renumbered again in 1961 to 900079 when her duties in snow melter Service began, when she was retired and put on display she got her original number back
guess the net doesn't have everything
Alex D It's all a little confusing to be honest lol. But in Territories like California and the Pacific Northwest where coal wasn't as available, U.P. Needed oil fired engines, and to make it easier to distinguish oil fired power from coal fired power, they changed the numbers of 18 of the Big Challengers to the 3700 series. If you ever want to read up on Union Pacific Challengers, there are two fantastic books called "Union Pacific Steam Challenger portraits" and "The History Of The Challengers", a lot of great stuff in those two books.
and my mom stood next to 8444 when mom was a kid
844?
@@eastgermanmig-23mf14 yes in Omaha in 1982
Love It!
Excellent thank you for sharing
just in case,what if up steam crew film a documentary on up 4014
That may be a while before that happens as 4014 is still brand new and has only been in service for 2 months since the restoration. But I'm sure as time goes by there might be a documentary made. For now we must wait.
Trains magazine is making one I think
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I'm not sure what's more impressive, 844 pulling 5,290 tons of freight solo (including up Archer Hill) or assisting the 11,620 ton freight. Either way, the high-drivered Northern is an impressive steamer!
It's very interesting that this steam locomotive was the living legend, just as impressive as the big boy locomotive
7:34 & 12:41 - Footage from Train Adventures for Kids: The Magical World of Trains
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This is one of those times, who cares who ownes it. This is our countries history!
well UP 3710 is really UP 3977,3985's only survived sister
I bet the Up Challenger 3985 would not have slipped up the,steep hill trying to get the freight train on its way to its destination cause it's bigger in size then the 844 Up steam train .
SP 4449 & UP 844
Exole001 😁
sp 4449 is my fav i like the up as well but i kinda hate union pacific because union pacific buy southern pacific witch sucks cause im a big southern pacific fan
@@jeffdemition7812 I felt that way for a while as well, as a long-time SP fan. However, when it really comes down to it, the SP were sick and going away no matter what. If no one had merged with them, they almost certainly would have faded away entirely. They were always out of money.
i love this tran
Steam is the best source of power try to change my mind.
Still on UP roster to this day...
Wow! I think UP 844 should go to Hollywood and all of the celebrities like Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, Ross Lynch, Sofia Carson, Kevin Quinn, Sabrina Carpenter, Zendaya, Peyton Elizabeth Lee, Maia Mitchell, Booboo Stewart, Cameron Boyce, China Anne McClain, and Dove Cameron will get a glimpse of Union Pacific's Living Legend! What do you think?
She already did that back in 1990 she left from Los Angeles and went up to Cajon Pass to Salt Lake she raced 4449 all the way to Barstow. 4449 turned North at Barstow and returned to Portland Oregon and 844 went to Salt Lake and then back to steam shop.
Wow! Amazing!
bad idea
What!!
and why is that?#844 already went to LA
Firemen on that footplate were sure letting out some black smoke. Lemme get my gnarled oily hands on them levers :|
From 24:54 to 29:26, history would eventually repeat itself years later.
An FEF-3!
13:14 What a treat.
Union Pacific 4-8-4 Locomotive 844
12:21 [train whistle] 26:27 [train chugging]
26:12 [train chugging] 13:11 [train chugging]
@48:20 how long has the 844 had it’s whistle
Since it was built. Its never been retired from active service since it was delivered in 1944.
NorfolkSoutherns#1Fan I know it’s never once been retired
Zachary Becker forever WhoootWhooooot
Well, it did have its whistle changed a few years back. Supposedly, it was lifted from one of the Big Boys.
Union pacific fef series 800 class
The 1944 Union pacific 844
0:37 what does the Christmas sign even say? I need to know
It says that its Alcos Christmas present to the union pacific.
It’s so hard to tell because the screen is bright
Is the Sacramento incident the reason why the steam specials are sent with diesel backup now? Seems prior to that most of the excursions were diesel-free.
Gabriel Perez Not really. Many of the excursions these days require a diesel for power to the passenger cars (on Amtrak sponsored excursions), as for the UP, it’s for insurance and it’s used as a tool to switch cars and such.
What if 844 was traveled from California to Chicago on the metra line
Elijah Trofort It would be cool, but will probably never happen.
didn't it already travel to california?
no not this year
When is the RFD channel gonna do a documentary on Union Pacific Big Boy 4014
they did and I watched it Southwest might have it on here
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Some times she is belching massive plumes of smoke, and sometimes barely a wisp. Why is that?
Usually the plumes are either for show or they are sanding the flues. Barely a wisp is good because the fire is burning efficiently and that's what you want to see.
If you ever wanted to know what it was like to watch and
listen to vhs on a crt... 😜
I wonder how much of 844 is original
Why does the #844 4-8-4 have the large sheet metal cheek pieces at the front? It looks like it restricts visibility for the engineer, adds weight penalty, and will pack snow. Is it intended for an advertising billboard?
Cc Wynn No, they arent for a billboard, They are smoke deflectors, they help carry smoke up & away from the cab. Where they are, they do not really hinder visibility all that much. Don't really think they would pack snow much either, UP usually kept their lines plowed. The engine is always kept indoors, so snow getting on it is irrelevant. They don't run 844 in winter 95% of the time anyway.
OK. I guess at high speed that might work, and #844 has been clocked at 144 MPH in the past.
Cc Wynn yeah at high speeds they work. It was 124 mph, the record is 126.7 set by the british Mallard and it was a different 800 series engine, not 844.
At 124 in the plains or front range on a hot day, it would be miserable in the cab, otherwise, I suppose.
The chief engineer calls them the "elephant ears".
it was shown that 844 pulled many freights but doesn't tell how many he pulled
Yes but how much
that wouldnt be much help honestly up 844 was many passanger service not frieght
did you record your tv screen or pc? if you did this on your pc could you please use a screen recorder. otherwise nice film but it was bottlenecked because you recorded this with a phone lol
I used an actual video camera, the quality of the program was bad, and didn't fit in the whole tv screen, so i had to zoom in to make it fit and that didn't help either.
40:00 what happened with the footage between here?
Commercial. I didn't include those.
since shining time station released
the steam locomotive raced in the camera
and the cast screen of the first class
specials scheamer stacy jones and much
much more then the union pacific railroad 844
has resembled as the rainbow sun for shining time station
where dreams can come true
the other steam train has railroad funds
1991 steam locomotive
That show actually used some of the footage of the 844 (which was still numbered 8444 because a GP30 diesel locomotive had the original number) which is what you see in the opening and closing credits of every episode, except for the Christmas special which featured Grand Canyon Railway #18, but that’s another story.
1990/1992
I had tran documents without 844.
What channel was this on?
Rfdtv
@@southwestvirginiarailfan729 Hey, I used to watch that stuff on that channel as well! Man I miss that channel. I remember watching these Trains and Locomotives programs back when we used to have Direct TV. Now we have Spectrum TV and it’s not the same.
Is it me or did I just replay at the end again of some already scenes we saw?
Fire_Train I took out the video of 844 pushing the freight train out of this, since that was neat by itself. Since it was part of this, i left it in when i uploaded the whole show.
The 3985 Up Challenger should have been used , because I feel like it would have been much better cause it would have been faster then the 844 Up train
844 is a lot faster than 3985,4014 or somewhat surprisingly,any other locomotive on the up roster today.
What is the name of this documentary?
Action Set & Go! Railfanning & Other Cool Stuff
Union Pacific 844
And i think we have to bring back more steam to track, not to be sit alone and rusty in museum
3710 is 3977.
Can UP 844 Travel to New York State?
Railfanner Channel It could if UP wanted to take it there, but they would have to work it out with other railroads that 844 would travel over, since I don't believe UP has tracks of its own in new york state.
NorfolkSoutherns#1Fan there's a lot of Railroads who are steam fans.
Railfanner Channel There is railroads that like steam, but they usually put their freight business first, I remember reading about the group that owns 3751 wanted to take it to train festival 2011 in Illinois, a 5,000 mile trip. Their request was denied by BNSF to move over their trackage due to the fact they were expecting an increase in traffic volumes the month 3751 was scheduled to go. Even though 3751 operates on BNSF tracks all the time, sometimes they just won't let it happen.
@Railfanner channel no steam engines are aloud to enter new york state do to the under ground rail systems and due to its polution they cant really run steam there anymore all hudsens in the 1930 to the 1950's were not aloud in city limits
I'm not sure. I cannot think of lines off the top of my head that have height clearances for any of UP's steam trio, but I could be wrong
48:28 are those SD40-2s?
I believe so, they use to be top of the line motive power back then.
I think they're SD-45's
Very poor by videoing a video. Just horrible
Then don't watch it.
@@southwestvirginiarailfan729 i didn't, moron