Rina Sawayama: 'Therapy made me realise I was groomed at 17' - BBC News
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- Rina Sawayama has been called ‘the future of queer pop music’.
The Japanese-British singer speaks to the BBC’s gender and identity correspondent Meghan Mohan about her frustrations with the music industry, how her sexuality informs her art and growing up with racism in the UK.
She also reveals, for the first time, the deeply personal and devastating inspiration behind her album.
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This interview was aired the morning Rina performed the Seattle show and the show was so emotional and beautiful. I could feel her passion and healing through her performances. She is truly an amazing performer and a beautiful soul 💗 Hold the girl is so special to me because when i first listened to it I felt so seen and I didn't feel alone. Her music is truly euphoric. Rina deserves the world 💗
the applause and roar of the crowd during the moment she shared this was outstanding. so well deserved and I'm glad she was able to receive that praise and acknowledgement
I was at this show and the amount of emotional catharsis expressed and felt by all was profound. ❤
It was a great performance of "Your Age" and it's from the lyrics what it's about. I had a feeling this was coming someday. I'm glad she's feeling empowered. I hope this guy gets named and shamed soon. 💪
What an amazing and insightful interview! Props to the interviewer for asking the right questions and getting rina to open up
Not sure you can really be groomed at 17. Seems a bit old.
The interviewee was more than willing to get the free publicity and score some sympathy points.
However at 17 a choice is a choice.
Blaming her choice on someone else because she regrets a relationship much much later is pathetic.
17 is still young and especially when their is an imbalance in the power dynamics of the two parties
"Hold the girl" is a very deep album and you are very brave for expressing everything, we (fans) love this album and all its songs, thank you for this wonderful interview 💗 wish you all the best, Rina!!
Rina, I’m so sorry you went through that kind of abuse (9:32) . Thank you for sharing your experiences through your brilliant and artistic songwriting.
You are brave, and your songs are relatable, relevant and cathartic for child abuse survivors. Again, thank you for sharing your painful experiences through art with the world.
to anyone who is blaming rina for what happened to her when she was 17: i hope that if you ever have children, that they never get manipulated into a relationship with their 30-something year old teachers. not just because it's disgusting, vile and perverse of a teacher to do that to a student, but also because you've clearly shown here that you would rather call a victim "attention-seeking", "naive", or "lacking accountability" than call a predator a predator. any child who has ever gone through that trauma would only suffer further at the hands of parents as shitty as you. no student should ever have to go to school worried if their teacher will make romantic/sexual advances on them. school policy and laws (people love to point out that age of consent in the uk is 16, but it's been illegal for a teacher to have sexual contact with a student under 18 since 2001) exist for a reason.
bro 17 if u cant think half straight with 17 ur prob never can and callin some 1 a predator because he was in a relasionship with a 17year old girl that wanted it 2 is just disgusting
@@aaronrohland9381 someone should check your hard drive
there are so many special moments in this interview and i always appreciate rina for her honesty and vulnerability. it takes courage to face your traumas, revisit it through creative outlets, and to share it with the masses. hold the girl has got to be one of the bravest and rawest pieces of work i’ve encountered, and i felt her intensity as it mirrored my own. i resonate so deeply with the dissonance of being an asian diaspora and tending to the inner child who has been a victim of adult(s) who took advantage rather than protect us. so proud of rina, her inner child and the woman she became ❤️✨
“Hold the Girl” was a masterpiece thank you Rina for sharing your vulnerability with the world we love you ❤❤
I really like Rina's way of being a popstar. She can give you looks, vocals and performances (love that!). And she is also insightful and seems to think about the community she's in. (here I'm referring to the entire society)
Call me insane, but I honestly think she would be the perfect Psylocke in the MCU in the potential future.
Rina Sawayama is amazing and we love her! ❣️
I love how eloquently she expresses the frustration of having the pressure to 'represent' a culture that might be your family's, but it's not really yours. There's way too much impotence put on race, when really it's culture...race is kinda made up, people are not different creatures they just have shared traits from ancestors being born in a location and breeding with others from that location... it's not like dogs, people are not different like a Chow Chow verse a poodle.
Nonsense. You talk make believe ideology, not facts.
There are different humanoid races.
One might even say different species or different hybrid species.
Wow this comment section mostly does not pass the vibe check. She's amazing and her healing journey is admirable.
right no one here has any drop of human decency, the second someone opens up about something so hard for them people in the comments start victim blaming or bible thumping its so disgusting
Completely agree. As an Asian woman who has experienced similar traumas that Rina has, her music & story have really helped me heal.
As a straight male who has gone through child abuse and has seen many close friends of the LGBTQ community go through so much, it hurt a lot to watch the video. I've always had a lingering understanding of what she meant in her music, and it's why I admire her so much. I hope there's nothing but happiness for her, or anyone struggling with such pain.
Where are bbc's reports about Jaqueline Ma teacher of the year, Ellen Shell teacher, Haley Reed teacher, Amanda Doll Johnston, Andrea Serrano, Andie Rosafort, Jennifer Hawkins, Leigh Felton, Alissa Mccommon,Tracy Smith etc? You know, actual r apes that were proven in count?
It would be so interesting if musicians were able to unionize the way that actors have
Rina is such a cool person! The way she shared her experience is really powerful. This conversation inspires me a lot. Thank you!❤
I have mixed parentage, and have faced similar attitudes that Rina has regarding being profiled as a Japanese tour guide. However, when people ask me questions about the different countries in my heritage, it's usually because they are genuinely interested in them, and trying to fill a gap in their ignorance. If I feel like it's a tokenistic conversation, I'll say something like "I wish I could tell you more about X country but I've only been as a child...maybe check out Y for more information." I haven't had many of these interactions, as people usually have decent social skills and don't racially profile you. I think Rina's experiences demonstrate the types of social circle that she runs in, where people have less experience socialising with people of varying ethnicities.
Saw her at Lollapalooza this year! A great singer and performer! wish the best for her
What a well spoken queen! Have so much love and respect for Rina
rina's art means everything to me
She's very smart and very grounded.
so proud of her for sharing her story❤️❤️❤️ I hope she knows she’s touching so many people✨❤️
she is a true superstar
rina is such a talent ! love this interview 🫶
It’s a shame that I didn’t know her until today! I think many of us, Japanese, have never heard of her.
I admire her for sharing her bitter experience at 17.
I wonder why Japanese media do not interview her or feature her music in Japan.
What an amazing lady!
I’m originally from HK and having studied both in the UK and America for sometime, I noticed that Caucasian Brits made me feel less human (I felt like I was the Asian) whereas talking to an white American made me feel human? It’s hard to explain but i totally understand what Rina means.. and people just wanting to talk about your race and background and not necessarily you as a person
💯 % correct!
It might be Europe in general. I'm suddenly associated with Tokyo, sushi and ninja😂 *sigh*
Rina is an extraordinary person, I love her honesty and her art so much
So many comments here are so disgusting and insensitive, trying to invalidate Rina (and countless other women's) experience. Rina, you are so brave and thank you for your honesty. ❤
No one’s invalidating anyone. Meaningless jargon.
You invalidate a driving license. Not a human being.
love you ❤❤❤❤your music is always amazing
We knew Rina, we understood, thank you for your amazing work
This was a great interview. Megha asked interesting questions and Rina answered them sincerely 👍💯
amazing News ,we love her so much
And i like this video ❤❤
Whats a glorious time to be alive. Women like Rina finally getting the due they deserve! 20 years ago she probably wouldn't have been more than a backup dancer...
@6:05 Rappers lie about their age too. Nikki Minaj has been shaving off 5-7 years until recently when ppl found out she is in her 40s. It's no about the genre, it is about the gender. Men are told they are never too old for anything, even younger women (i.e. Al Pacino with a woman 60 years younger). As a woman, if you are with a man 5 years younger, people treat you like a pariah or make fun of you for it.
@@user-fi7uh5zh3i what do you know about women freak boy.
Your mother's virgina is the last one you saw and you were on the way out of it.
Women really hate annonimous stalker types who can't even put a name on their profile.
They really are weak feeble minded scum.
Yay for first-generation Asians growing up/living in a Western country! I am one, too.
Fancy way of saying immigrant.
Dear woman, and a creative powerhouse. So good, to hear her story of finding balance. Guys. Stop abusing women!! It really messes them up, listen to her!! Show respect, always.
That's to much adorable
Excellent interview! Thank you❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Rina ❤
❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
She’s like me I thought it was geniune loved but I was emotionally groomed
Love you Rina❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
if you are dating someone in their 30s when you are 17 you should know that's not normal.
Yeah, that 30-something should’ve been knew.
Rina is so mature divine empress .
rina 4evr🥹
My heart ❤️🩹 thank you so much for sharing, Rina. Too many of us can relate. In your healing process, you’ve helped so many others heal and feel less alone as well. The power of music ❤️
ミケランジェロの芸術は美しさよりもその美しさを越える力があり、人々の感激を引き起こす。
彼女は その力の中心に立っています。
😍😍😍😍😍
I enjoyed this interview insightful
i live and die for her
"Nudge Theory" same as grooming and economist was given Nobel Prize for the theory.
@11:00 I wonder how much of the "slut shaming" she experienced was actually due to her being Asian and having had an illicit relationship with a Yt teacher in his 30s. She said she went to Yt schools and was objectified for being Asian, so it stands to reason that she wouldn't be viewed as a victim as much as a Yt girl would. Asian women are often hyper-sexualized in western society. Also, England has a law that 16 and up is legal, although they are considering changing it.
Where does she say he was yt? I'm pretty sure if he was, she would definitely have mentioned it
@@avenged42Dude it’s England lol. If he was not white it’s more anomalous than not.
@@acetofresh1It wouldn’t be anomalous in London. Which is where she grew up. London is barely 50% white, and a lot less than that English.
This just cracked me open in all the best ways
16.
Lots of love to Rina ❤❤
adore her
Slut shaming is horrible. Yes you get weirdly pressured to do stuff you might not be ready for, but it is a time when you are just curious and want to explore who you are...as long as it's consensual it shouldn't be looked down on... it's almost like being a scientist of life figuring out what works for you
Devastating childhood. Amazing persistence through all of the safety nets of wealth. You are a beacon of light amidst the constant self promoting blinding light.
Great piece!!
We love you Rina❤
She's me
Is your age about this?
0:30 note to the video producers on "sugar pack" comment while the subject is drinking a "sugar free" coke, kudos
Excellent interview!!!!!!!!!!
She is such a talented singer.❤ Go Rina!🎉
Where are her eyebrows?
Chris Blackwell from Island record was a PIMP.
Bob Marley.
Wow very nice❤❤❤❤
Totally get her. Yeah it’s annoying.
Wake Me Up When September Ends
So is the teacher arrested?
No. He didn't r@pe her. He spit game on her and she fell for him and gave it up. Now she's just calling it "grooming" lmao.
@@diasflac0gbecause it is gr00ming…her bf back then was a 30yr old while she was a minor… just because he didn’t r@pe her doesn’t mean he wasn’t a bad guy
@diasflac0g Minors can't consent, and grown adults shouldn't be "spitting game" on them. Gross.
@@barbaramateran6960 You can complain all you want, but a 17 year old isn't a child. I understand that in 2023 even 30 year olds are "children" now days lmao.
A 17 year old girl knows what the hell she's doing already. That's not a "little kid" anymore.
The bottom line is that this teacher spit some game on her, she found him attractive for sure and she fell for him and gave it up to him. Is that simple.
Now that she's 30+ and a feminist, all of a sudden that game the teacher dropped on her turned into "grooming" when she willing spread her legs for him haha 🤣
linda
めっちゃ軽薄な会話
pan-fried
By a peado ??????
才能を否定するべきではない。どういうりなさまの才能？わずかだけの言葉を選べば、新た。新ただ。新鮮。予想意外。びっくりさせること。別なスタイルを組み合わせ、面白いコンビネーション。
とくに、前の人が思い浮かべなかったことをすること。まるでイギリス人。
There has been grooming in Britain as well, but the BBC ‘legacy and history’ correspondent has been on a long holiday!
You realise that she’s literally talking about an experience in Britain?
I feel 7 is too old.
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
Kalergi plan.
R.I.P😞
Ultimately boring.
Big black cawk
Why this bbc and cnn is not reporting about biden impeachment. And also 10000 ukrainian surenders this weekm??????
They already reported the announcement of the process last month... Biden has not been impeached so there is nothing new to report... but if you go onto there website it shows updates about the process... and there is little significant progress or news on the matter.
And because we in UK only care about Putin getting his nasty ass kicked... What do think you are revealing a secret or something!? We hate Putin... we have said that for two decades... it's not a secret.
Both have reported on the matter of impeachment.
But there isn't an impeachment so nothing to report.
You really do have to catch up with the news.
And hey your Putin is a loser!
После введение системы контроля бриллиантов по всему миру
She looks like a Otsubone-sama in the Edo period in Japanese
now i regret googling what that is....
leave my wife alone
OT: Benny Hill considered funnier than Monty Python by two TV stations--WOR and WLVI.
Why isn't the BBC talking about Sweden calling in the army to deal with migrants. Is that why they joined NATO?
Sweden treating Russian migrants so badly
I can't stand people like these that keep complaining .....these two really look scary as scarescrow......!
Because migrants are no new thing... and NATO has no commitment to deal with migrants.
Sweden Joined NATO because nasty Putin thought he was bigger than he actual is.
W H OMEGALUL
Who?
This is not news.
WHOOOOOOOO?????? bb
辱华了。
中国人的玻璃心碎了一地！
I've been a dog groomer for 5 years, please define grooming to me.
What Pakistanis do in Rochdale. THAT type of grooming.
Advertising is grooming.
theres another meaning to grooming, one being predatory to children
You can google a specific definition but basically it’s when a trusted adult slowly introduces the idea of a romantic relationship to a child so that they’ll come to accept it over time. It’s manipulation so the child is never aware that they’re being preyed on. That’s why victims usually don’t know that they were manipulated until they become the age of their abusers. They can see what normal behavior is and recognize that those people were NOT normal.
The innate instinct that most women have to evade accountability in all situations and want to be portrayed as victims in all aspects is amazing and exhausting to watch and deal with.
So is the denial of men to take full accountability for harrassing, persisting and grooming. No means no, it doesn't mean ask 8 more times.
남자새끼들은 하여간 국적불문 다 이모양이네
@@donhectorsalamancaIf no means no why is there a video with Henry Cavill harassed for 3 minutes straight? Or BTS members, Bieber and hundreds of other celebrities?
@@donhectorsalamancaHeadlines such as 'men who are forced to pen et rate are r ape victims, Study finds' prove the OP right.
@@donhectorsalamanca of course no means no but she did not say she said no.
Let’s be honest no one feels for her
you are horrible. get a life
@@jslee4613feel for her for what? What has she suffered?
No, thanks
no you were not groomed, you made a decision that you now regret. People need to take personal accountability for their actions.
Women aren't accountable. Just a fact of life.
Marriage is impossible, let alone sex. This is what they are now.
When they are 45, their world view changes. Strangely.
Imagine a chicken
@@curiositycloset2359their view doesn't change.
Feminism: I'm a strong powerful and Independant woman BUT also a victim 😢
Doesn't change the fact a man, being a typical man, groomed and harassed her. Men committ all the crimes in society and harrass and persist and simp over women.
@@donhectorsalamanca "Men committ all the crimes in society and harrass and..."
Tell that to the guys who were accused of sexual assault by a woman who,
a repeat offender, made multiple false allegations.
And here YOU are making false allegations.
Check police records. Check court records.
@@donhectorsalamancaand doesn't change the fact that all women sexually manipulate men, but like to pretend that that's not a bad thing. What you feel is bias.
Which one do you think is more likely to happen? For a woman to sexually abuse a man or for a man to sexually abuse a woman? Let me give you a hint, it's not women that commit over 90% of sex crimes. Nice try at playing victim though.
The incel energy is strong in this one
imagine wanting 2 date some 1 older and years later u decide 2 call them a groomer on the internet women logic
Face it advertising is grooming.
Influencers, same thing as advertisers, are groomers too.
plz never speak again❤️
Somewhere around 10 I looked at the Coca-Cola T-shirt I was wearing and went, what? Why am I advertising for them? Since them I've worn nothing branded that I don't support, and I don't watch commercial TV or listen to commercial radio (except for when my local NPR station is being especially boring...)
@@Aurakutlu plz grow up faster.
@@public.public Wait, you were being facetious? Pretty impressive to not realize you're making a valid point, does that suggest cognitive bias?
@@JeffreyGoddin Thankyou for that last reply. I misread your post and have removed my acerbic reply. I apologise.
Мы ограничим торговлю российскими алмазами. Российские алмазы не вечны, и мы открыто и откровенно объясним, почему эти санкции необходимы и оправданы», - сказал он. во всех заколотим кто против этой истины и даже на вторичном рынке запретим алмазы из России в течение 5-7 лет навсегда
Never heard of her
Why aren't you talking about actual proven r ape cases like Jaqueline Ma teacher of the year, Ellen Shell teacher, Haley Reed teacher, Amanda Doll Johnston, Andrea Serrano, Andie Rosafort, Jennifer Hawkins, Leigh Felton, Alissa Mccommon, Tracy Smith etc?
whataboutism
@@zonumanaid What about my whataboutism?
Wtf do you mean by actual proven rape cases
@@zonumanaid Just say you are a femceI
Pomp and circumstance in one scene.