K-pop scandal: Exposing the secret chat groups | BBC News
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- Warning: This film includes descriptions some viewers may find distressing.
In South Korea, K-pop stars have fame, fortune and millions of female fans.
But, some led a double life.
This film tells the story of the female journalists who took on the task of investigating the secret chat groups where evidence of sexual crimes were being shared by prominent K-pop stars.
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This reporter is a hero. What a disgusting situation.
is not a hero, she couldn´t stop the situation from happening, she only uncover a piece of something that is still happening right now in other clubs
@@thadalikamanot hero but BRAVE
This is because she was caught engaging in prostitution. The punishment for prostitution is too light. Korea is a place where desire is suppressed due to strong Confucianism, but in the women's generation community, women in their 30s are having sexual relations with middle and high school students. The female director of a dermatology hospital hires female employees in their 20s to make money. They hire people to eng*ge in prostitution.
I think she is still infact a hero, coz she unconvered the truth behind those girlies trauma @@thadalikama
Very brave these people who are speaking up. The reality and truth really isnt that pretty behind the doors of entertainment industry the fact is
2 years for gang rape??? In Australia they'd be gone for decades. That's the problem. The laws are't strict enough. It's a patriarchal problem. Disgusting.
No one protected them because they were men, they were protected because they were rich and famous. If they were women, they would still be protected.
Australia’s legal system is a bit better, but not by much. It’s a case close to me, but there was a p*do charged with 6 counts of SAing girls under the age of 10, and he got 100 hours community service. That’s it. It’s ridiculous. There’s no justice, not properly.
Yeah that’s why these Korean men say they love the laws in Korean, because the laws don’t really give a damn
because the MEN in power and/or with status are also criminals and corrupt hence they wont do anything to strengthen laws and protect women, because for what when it benefits a society that is made for men by men?
only 5 years for gang rape ? The Laws in South Korea aren't strict enough. I agree it's a patriarchal problem. DISGUSTING !!!!!!!!!!
It’s not about K-Pop alone. It’s about Korean culture. It’s the Korean men’s mentality. It’s their culture which they should address and correct.
Nothing wrong with our culture. That's just your irrelevant opinion. You're just jealous because nobody wants you.
👏👊
Correct
It's not about Korean culture or Korean men's mentality alone, it's about men's mentality in general. This kind of thing happens everywhere. One common denominator...
Confucianism
The fact that people are still supporting seungri , is so disgusting 🤢🤢🤮
Exactly!
I saw a comment by a girl saying "they are lucky I wish to get touched by seungri" 💀💀
These guys are so mediocre as singers and dancers, I don’t even understand why they could be idolized to start with.
Sentences are shockingly low.
Korean and their rich people
Murder is only 5 to 10 here in South Korea.
And he’s back on tv with his own show -
@@missragsdaleseungri
Seungri got the lightless because of YG Entertainment connection to politicians.
Jung Joon-young seems like he's alone and didn't have someone great behind him so that's why he got more.
i used to really like kpop from 2009 - 2013/4, just grew old but still dapping every now and then. it wasn't a surprised for me when i heard about this scandal and their prison terms. even cases of murder or pedophile, the perpetrator got no more than 10 yrs - like for a nobody person. i feel like the reason the sentence is so low is because of the politicians in their national assembly, they probably did it too so they also don't want a harsh sentence so that's probably why they wrote the law that way.
I'm a high school girl in Korea.
First of all, I'm truly,sincerely grateful that bbc brought this up because If I raise questions about these kinds of issues at school, I'm branded a thumping piggy feminist, an "emotional disorder."
I shed tears of unknown reason when I saw comments from foreigners who said they would listen to this and stand in solidarity. Thank you very much.
When this incident broke out, Korea was quiet. When Room N broke out (a case in which 260,000 Korean men watched a video clip in which a caterpillar was placed on a video device sexually assaulting elementary, middle, and high school and adult women my age), Korean men exaggerated the incident, saying that the actual sexual assault rate would be reduced only when the victims watched such videos as "enjoyed" because they wanted to. The mastermind of this nightmare was sentenced to 40 years in prison, and the person who disclosed their personal information about the criminals in anger was sentenced to two years in prison.
Three years later, just yesterday, a group of male students from Seoul National University, the nation's most prestigious university, posted illegal compounds of 60 women from their alumni and enjoyed watching them in more than 200 chat rooms. Another man from a prestigious medical school killed his girlfriend, who told him to break up at the same school.
Even though women are being sexually assaulted and killed every day in this land, the media keeps silent about the demonstration of a female nursery teacher who has no motherhood, and Korean men treat me as if it is the only big deal. It is a sense of victimization. Women also enjoy watching children's play, but they cover up the case, saying, "Isn't it the female version of Room N?" I cannot comment on these issues at school. That is why I desperately need your attention and solidarity. please Don't believe what they say in K-drama. I hope women take care of yourself and stay safe.
What is that female version of n room??
Stay safe out there! If you and your homegirls ever decide to go party, please remain constantly alert and don’t let anyone tamper with your drinks or make you drink a lot! Here in America this happened before but recently ladies are taking action against date rape and stuff. Stay safe ❤
What the hell. It’s crazy that k-drama is a lie 😭 I feel bad for korean women. I could never live in a society so terrible where the men are misogynistic overly conservative pigs. Here in the U.S its bad, but holy shit South Korea is a SCARY place for woman!!
Dark side of Korea…tragic and disturbing
Korea or Bangladesh are both same.😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
As a Korean woman, i hope every people know the present of Korean women right. Thank you BBC. In Korea, whenever women stand on women's side, they are considered as terrorist(surprisingly, some men think feminist as terrorist). Raising voice for women is definitely not easy in Korea. It needs so much courage in Korea. I just want safe place for every women. Korea is not that place for sure.
Is this why women rights activist are advocating the 4Bs (do nots)... do not date, do not marry, do not have children and do not have sex? It makes sense now but your country birth rate is already so low....
Women need to wake up and stop listening and defending men , my life is horrible because i keep giving them chances
왜 이렇게 한국의 현실과 다른 이야기를 하는가? 한국에 직접 와서 확인해 보세요. 이 여자들은 거짓말을 하고 잇습니다.
이들의 말과는 다르게, 한국사회가 한국남자에 대해 착취하는 내용들을 안다면 이렇게 일방적으로 한국남자를 욕되게 할수는 없을 것입니다. 평균적 한국남자의 상황은 버닝썬과는 다릅니다. 한국여자들도 압니다 평균적 한국남자들이 착취당하고 있으며 버닝썬과는 무관한 삶을 살고 있다는 것을. 그걸 알면서도 한국여자는 남자들을 이렇게 매도하고 있습니다. 한국에 대한 거짓을 멈추세요 한국여자들아.
Contrary to what they say, if we knew how Korean society exploits Korean men, we would not be able to unilaterally dishonor Korean men like this. The situation of the average Korean man is different from Burning Sun. Korean women also know that the average Korean man is exploited and lives a life that has nothing to do with Burning Sun. Even though they know this, Korean women continue to criticize men like this. Stop lying about Korea, Korean women.
As a korean girl, thank you for covering this issue. Really really thank you.
we support you and hopefully in the future things get better! always here for support as another fellow American girl
Stay strong!!!
Korean girls are the most bully girls though. You put this upon yourselves lol
Girls romanticized Korean guys because of K-Drama thinking that all of them are gentlemen, polite, innocent, loyal, etc, etc but in reality, it is the opposite. That's why it's called "drama" because it is fictional, not reality.
we know the truth now. I can't even look normally at unaccused idols because I don't know what they are like behind closed doors
@@Saara-ci7bx Same, every time I look at a male idols I feel that they are deceiving me. It's scary.
Even here in the Philippines people go crazy over a race who thinks they are above any Asians and are having fun mocking us. I wish they're forever banned 🚫
Actually, Korean dramas also tell a lot about the society. People constantly commenting on someone's weight or looks, feeling obliged to drink until late with their coworkers or bosses, putting pressure on working mothers, openly slapping younger siblings or children etc. Even in romanticized versions of reality some things really stand out for people from other countries and societies
Wow- well put!
PLESASE PROTECT THE REPORTER AT ALL COSTS
The sad part also was "HARA" committed suicide, the South Korean singer who help the reporter, very unfortunate turn of events😢
I honestly hope that she just first leave that freaking country with her child rn 😢. She can continue her goal abroad
@@lianison8983and I really don’t think it’s suicide, it’s a coverup, cuz many Korean celebrities not standing with these evils “suicided”
@@lianison8983But did she? Or was it a murder to silence her?
Fr Fr ikr I hope she is safe
As A Malaysian, I am disgusted when I found out there's a recent news about a high profile businessman with title "Tan Sri" invited Seungri to sing on his birthday party. SHAME ON YOU!
that the problem , majority malaysian tend to not do research and stuck in their fangirl past, and layan that shameful ex idol, he's been in malaysia a few times already, probably has some business here god knows what
@@dariel299 yes seungri owned a restaurant in Pavilion named aori ramen. Tapi dah tutup during covid
Can’t believe how these K-pop star look so innocent but behind cameras were monsters
It's not just k-pop. It's all korean men
I cannot wrap my head around the fact that they were sentenced to a few months of jail for rape, sex trafficking, illegally drugging and filming women without their consent... I already knew there are huge societal issues in South Korea, especially regarding women's rights and how male offenders are never punished, but I think that of this documentary, I find the lack of judicial action and protection even more disgusting and distressing than what these women have had to suffer and will have to keep enduring without a reform of the law.
It's Korea, a primitive dump.
Yeah and people wonder why Korean women are not as interested in dating or having children. The concept of legal protection just doesn't exist for many of these young women
At least I hope that what used to be fans that loved them, instead will despise them, and use this opportunity to wise up and perhaps look for someone that is kind and loving, instead of someone that have looks, but are ugly on the inside. A good example of how not to judge books by their covers.
Its south Korea for you, They are fake innocent like their face plastic surgery
Reminds me of here in America, tbh.
the biggest problem is that it's still happening!
Because the kidz still love em no matter what
@@syifamsIt's not like western celebs are any better
@simple__k-lover exactly, but the video is focusing on K-pop, no?
@@syifams ikr it's focusing kpop
@@syifams ikr
the time they spent in jail is not equivalent to the amount of scars and trauma those women felt
As a Korean, Korea has problems with its social structure. Even the atmosphere across society is cynical and resigned. The high suicide rate and low birth rate issues, and these incidents are not surprising.
Well highlighted. The two east Asia countries noted as being the countries with western values are facing the same societal issues. Alcoholism, over-work, mental-health and DV. I believe something needs to happen to the family unit. As society is built on its families.
@@Tomf-tz4pdSomething needs to happen to individuals. They need to stop being a**holes.
Since you are Korean, is 4b really a thing in Korea? Or not?
Korean media always try to show the bright side of country . That means , is korea has freedom or not . Say no to all show off and try to leave in reality atleast you can rise your voice against these scandals
@@dnookh5143 it’s difficult to really tell how big or small it is in south korea because feminists face extreme harrassing and doxxing when talking about their views.
The sentences are way too low. The culture will never change at this rate.
The sentences are a joke, it's a slap on the face of good men.
Its in their DNA south Koreans are too busy blaming other countries and show racism against tourist visit south korea
True. If these guys were in the US, they would be in prison for decades. And they would be playthings for Black and Mexican gang members.
I think the Hollywood industry is worse
which culture? south korea is one of the safest country and let me tell you. things that are trivial in uk or europe is considered harassment, sexism and crime in south korea. i lived in germany and newspaper like the Bild zeitung regularly exposed female breasts in page 3 for the male readers. in south korea these kind of things would be crime.
The female reporters are so brave. S.Korea call feminist to any woman who claims equiality or rights. They fought against all that and the power of the agencies and the corruption in the police to give a bit of justice to the victims. But as the victim said, they don't even expect justice,they know their society. The punishment was a joke to try to lower the noise of the crimes.
I think the Hollywood industry is worse
@@user-jy3ux5iy5fincel detected
@@user-jy3ux5iy5f might be worst or the same. But they are not selling you that the artist are " Idols" that are almost like angels.
Europe is less secure than South Korea 😂
@@softKactuz Why doesn't the BBC report on the Esptaine list?
My mom always used to say, don't trust people who are too much perfect. I think she is right ❤
Think??
Think also means in English what you truly mean, not only from thinking..
@@Burgemeesterr there are better expression though...
No wonder a K-drama series called 'Taxi Driver' plotted an episode that's literally identical to this issue, so people could see that this is a massive subject in Korea.
I watched it too. It immediately made me think of this scandal.
Me too… the name of the club sef…. The scenes the lady spoke off had identical ones to that of the drama
if only that kdrama was true
vigilante is also a good drama who describe legal insufficiency regarding theses horribles and desgusting crimes
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.
Celebrity & their fangirls are very toxic
Just like your mom
@@chade7669 Nice one “ Chad”
What's even more disgusting is WOMEN were protecting these men. Their fans were attacking the women who were exposing these men. How anyone can defend a sexual assailant is beyond my understanding. These guys just sing and dance for a living. They are not saving lives at some hospital or doing any humanitarian work. They are monkeys on stage, yet they get treated like gods
Korean/Japanese/Chinese/Vietnamese men have a disgusting attitude towards women.
It’s not a kpop thing. It’s a Korean men thing. In America I’ve seen Korean clubs with “ back rooms “ where I’ve heard of shady things happening there. They said it’s a Korean thing everywhere
Unfortunately, there are a lot of these things in K-pop. It's just very well covered. The Kpop industry is no different from Hollywood, make no mistake. Thr glorification of a "pure idol image" is not a coincidence. Many fans would never guess that some of their favs have done or been involved in some heinous things. You cannot make a mere human being a god, they cannot handle power.
Yeah, its a korean thing spread by Kpop
Korean even gambling a lot
It's YG
Imagine generalizing, if I were to say It's am American thing because of what Epstein did, is that valid?
Lol rape isnt considered a big crime in Korea ??? Ridiculius punishment. Like they didnt even really want to punish them.
These fans disgusts me how they are so blind to such inhuman treatment towards another women and they have the audacity to actually drag the woman who is trying to bring justice.
The man at the end saying that burning sun is happening everywhere and his own club is doing it?! Wtf?? You still have a responsibility to report it!! Knowing women are still being raped and sitting back and just saying "well its everywhere so what am i going to do" is crazy!
i agree but its nto crazy to feel helpless. you know how many women report stalking and the police are like im sorry nothing we can do until he does something illegal
@@duckiechen1321 Unfortunately stalking laws have only recently been put into stronger law in South Korea, after a woman was murdered in a subway bathroom by her stalker and he was captured on CCTV. It still did not go far enough to protect women overall.
Even Korean singers and actors, who have to deal with incredibly invasive stalker fans, didn't have legal recourse to deal with them until the last couple of years. Most of their companies seem to settle out of court if they receive an apology from the perpetrator and promise to work better on themselves.
Please broadcast about Andrew Albert Christian Edward case. IT WAS SAME CASE
That's the thing, he needs hard evidence, and even with that, the police and justice system are a joke. It took reporters, lawyers, celebrities, and years worth of evidence to take down one club, and that only happened because it was a high profile case, involving celebrities, and one of the the reporters was a entertainment journalist.
Gangnam alone is a big place, known for the wealth that surrounds it, with a huge night scene. This guy would more like end up dead or outcasted if he started outing places with little to no support, as in a system that will try to take these places down. Basically put, until the leaders with power change, this is going to keep happening.
Guys it's not about Hollywood or k-pop it's about the dignity of humankind in general and we shall protect it..@@user-jy3ux5iy5f
I’m glad BBC covered this. The crimes are heinous, the sentences are a joke
Lol, you're glad BBC covered this 5 years late? Should've reported it during the heat of it.
@@DanteLovesPizza it's better than not exposing it at all
@@NavyAng
This isn't an expose. This is like a recap. As far as celebrity news goes, this is like history.
Damn there’s no justice in Skorea. Seungri only being sentenced to 1.5 years is a joke after the amount of trauma and damage he has done! And they say SKorea is safe.. for who?!
The fact that fans tried to bully the reporter is disgusting. I knew K-pop fans were toxic, but eww, this is beyond gross.
1 year and 6 months? Wtf. I lived in Korea for more than 20 years. Men talk women like they are objects
And now those objects are choosing to die single. Serves these men right.
In Korea, there were forces that tried to put a lid on the incident until now. The BBC did a great job. Also, watch out for Korean clubs. They used to target foreign women.
I agree
Just avoid clubs
You think clubs is the only place😂, just be safe out there
How can their fans argue that they are innocent people?
It's tough to say but they are just blind people, they are the people who don't know anything and only knows the good side of em, it's like when you meet a new person you don't know their back story and what's in their mind and if they are actually good or not at first, it's the same with the fans too, they just started stanning them for their looks and voices they be delusional imagining that they will marry their idols, and for that they always try their best to protect the idols at any cost, but little do they know they are protecting monsters, it's just their mind examining that all the Koreans are like kdrama characters but they should need to be grow up but yeah the fans one, it's just their thinking that they are innocent of some videos
So why so many people said that korea is a safest country for women.
Most definitely not.
我去韩国网站了解，就连很多韩国女性都这么认为。他们有两派，一个是女权主义者才会骂
Anyone who knows about the reality of Korea would never say that
Dont listen or watch those you tubers or the international so called couples!!
Just because most bad news, especially involving crimes against women, are not on tv news or social, doesnt mean its safe!!
Being treated like a second class citizens in every daily life aspect is the law in korea!
At work, on street, by law, by family, women are just objects!
Only korean streets are safe, otherwise it ain't safe at workforce, university , military etc
As a Korean, Korean judical system is insane. A lot of Koreans are mad about it for a long time😵
Is it so lenient because your population is low? Anecdotally, countries with higher population don't have a problem giving harsher sentences, simply because human life is not as 'precious'. Whereas I'd assume with a lower population the attitudes would be, that we can't lock half our population up, for example?
@@orangenerator I appreciate your opinion. But this issue is, in a high chance, not because Korea’s low population and birth rate. Rather it involves the procedure how Korea became a developed country. Back then Korean government committed severe human rights violations(representing event was 1987 June Democratic Struggle when students protested against tyranny of Chun Doohwan). As Korea become democratic, because of such horrific experience of violation, legitimation had to be strict on human rights and the basic laws became fixed until today. The population was high until 1990s so it didn’t really influence the legitimation of basic foundation of law.
XIJINPING UMMA GAEBODAE josunjoj gaesaekiya
Wow chinese undercover office. Would blamed to XIJINPING?
@@user-rv4fq2wi3d what do you mean by legitimation had to be strict on human rights? Do you mean that as a reaction to choo do hwans police violence, the law errs on the side of lesser punishment to uphold 'human-rights'?
The point of this isn’t “K-POP”. It’s a whole issue involving sexual assault and human trafficking. It just happened to have a few K-pop singers a part of it. But involves political figures, businessman and the police. Mass issue revolving around those who have money, power and or fame.
So corruption IS their pop culture in Korea, no wonder…
They just want to use the term "kpop" for views.
@@jnfunvufb Corruption everywhere. Look at P. Diddy, he did worse things and yet even the video if him beating up his then gf was hidden from the public because he paid. Come on!
@@jnfunvufbYou love pointing the finger at others to feel better about your own garbage at home. Lol. And when someone makes you aware of it you go on about : 😭 whataboutism. Yeah right. Same to you.
And will be held accountable @@nillyk5671
I'm so frustrated with the South Korea. Instead of making fake beautiful images you'd better solved real problems in the country.
The very fact that the cop who helped them is STILL working as a police officer is baffling.. and he was acquitted of all the crimes... Make it make sense.. so sickening.
He was actually promoted because of his disgusting 🤮 role. He covered it up in every possible way. 🔥⚖️
A murder that just happened
1) The investigation into the murder has seen no progress for ten days because the perpetrator is a woman, She's name is Yujin-Kang.
2) The murderer was not detained and was allowed to return to her hometown.
3) Despite calling it an excessive invasion of privacy, there has been no mention of privacy concerns in other murder cases. Four witnesses saw the trainee soldier being tortured. One died, and the other three escaped and reported it. However, instead of taking their reports seriously, the Korean military subjected them to a full day of criticism and interrogation for daring to accuse a female officer of intentionally torturing the trainee to death. Meanwhile, the murderer,Yujin-Kang, was granted leave and sent home because she is a woman. There was no investigation for ten days. The perpetrator did not flee or hide; she continued her daily life and work. Moreover, she insulted the deceased by saying, "He was too weak, and I wanted to torture him more, but he died a bit sooner than I expected." Despite many witnesses to Kang Yu-jin's torture, the police did not investigate because she is a woman.
Driven by malicious intent towards the trainee soldier, the perpetrator added heavy books to the already burdensome 40kg military gear. When the trainee soldier's health deteriorated severely, pleas for assistance from colleagues were callously ignored. Despite witnessing his collapse and repeated requests to rush him to the emergency room, she insisted on sending him to the infirmary, where he succumbed to his excruciating condition by 5 PM. Testimonies from the perpetrator's acquaintances and classmates vividly depict an ardent feminist consumed by intense hatred for men. While some young Korean women in their 20s and 30s argue the criticism is solely gender-based, the reality suggests otherwise. This dreadful act of torture and murder, rooted in misandry, is exacerbated by the rise of extreme feminist ideologies in Korea. Had the perpetrator been male, severe legal repercussions for murder would have been inevitable. However, being female, she is instead afforded psychological treatment and careful consideration from political leaders wary of the electoral influence of young adults. The lack of investigations into crimes by Korean women against U.S. soldiers and minors, as noted on the Yeoseongsidae community site, further underscores this disparity. In Korea, feminists seem to have achieved an almost untouchable status. This case exemplifies how feminist ideals persist even within the military, with the state actively facilitating the perpetrator's smooth economic reintegration. Under the Women's Protection Act in Korea, men bear the burden of proving their innocence, often leading to convictions solely based on accusations. A notable example is the case involving Yeongsu Oh, an actor from the Squid Game series, where the only evidence presented was the accuser's diary.
I heard about the photo of the deceased soldier in the ROTC group. At first, it seemed like the finger gesture was digitally added, but it turned out to be real. The gesture in the photo, made by female ROTC members, raises questions about its significance.
The finger gesture used by Megalia to mockingly depict a small penis and derogatorily refer to Korean men as "한남유충" (Han-nam insects) stems from a form of male chauvinism and sexism. It's intended to criticize and ridicule men, perpetuating gender bias and fostering division. This behavior is unacceptable and promotes discrimination, regardless of gender or race.
**Seoul National University Happiness Research Center and Kakao Together Value Publish "Korea Happiness Report" Based on Survey of 1.05 Million People**
"Women in their 20s and 30s show the highest levels of materialism and neuroticism, and the lowest levels of gratitude."
(Seoul = Yonhap News) Reporter Lee Seung-woo = A survey revealed that the overall level of happiness felt by South Koreans is average, while they experience a significant amount of stress in their daily lives.
The study also found that women in their 20s and 30s feel the lowest levels of subjective happiness compared to other age and gender groups.
In Korea, an expert with 14 years of experience as a military judge (Jihoon Lee, born on February 5, 1977, in Seoul, is a female attorney who holds degrees in Economics and Law, and a Master's in Law. She served as a military legal officer and human rights investigator in the Korean Army. Currently, she is the representative attorney at Jihoon Lee Law Office.)said there are situations where the lenient treatment of female criminals is questionable. Let's search for famous lawyers on CZcams and watch Search for a known lawyer on CZcams and watch '귀양?귀향?'.
# Namuwiki entry draft#### Title: 2017 Ministry of Health military officers club incident##### Background- **2017 incident**: A military officers club was voluntarily formed within the Ministry of Health.- **2019 military enlistment **: I am a club member who enlisted in the military in 2019.##### Incident Overview- **Photo Controversy**: After enlisting, club members took a group photo with their fingers holding the Megalia logo.
In 2017, the Ministry of Health suddenly formed a club for military executives and promoted Megalogo during the enlistment ceremony in 2019. As soon as he was appointed as a company commander, they tortured him with the health knowledge he learned in college, causing him to collapse from shock. At the time, Captain Kang was in the public relations role for the 2019 ROTC induction ceremony Megalia
Many K-pop fans, predominantly women, including self-proclaimed radical feminists, contributed to Shirley's tragic death with their hurtful comments, disapproving of her appeal to male audiences. This negativity led to Goo Hara's suicide, possibly influenced by the Werther effect. A large portion of these individuals gather on Daum's official community, Yeoseongsidae, boasting 840,000 extremists. Shirley became the target of a relentless witch hunt within this closed community, where she was unjustly demonized.
The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted.""A murder that just happened
1) The investigation into the murder has seen no progress for ten days because the perpetrator
Some of their fans still make excuses to this day or brush it aside as if it's not a heinous crime.
To me these people are not fans, are people that agree with crimes. They are criminal as their "idols".
I just had an argument with one on Twitter. They are blindly defending these men. I am shocked like how is rape a forgivable offense and since when ?
@@jinsrj4806 i think you can't reason with them. Those who support criminals clearly have strong criminal mindset themselves.
so true. Disgusting
@@jinsrj4806 there's even photos and video proof documented by the law.. but these fans think it's all fake
Those sentences weren't harsh enough
How do You think about Andrew Albert Christian Edward case?
They were like a joke..a filthy dirty joke to victims..
I applaud this journalist and her courage, which has probably saved many other women who could have been victims of these horrific attacks. I pray the victims get peace and justice.
I could not believe my ears when i heard the sentencing is so darn low. In my country, it is a minimum of 8 to 30 years with whipping not less than 10 strokes for each case. Oh man! They really need to revise their laws on Rape and Sexual Assault
In my country is 30 and more
I’m glad the BBC is reporting this and the world knows. Time for South Korea to feel the shame of this and fix this societal problem. The men in Korea have a real problem with respecting women and the culture needs to change.
One hundred percent!
We don't need to change anything. You don't like it then f**k off
Once again, you don;t know your idols the way you think you do.
Having "idols" in the first place is degenerated and childish. They are all fake and management raised slaves. Who the hell is dumb enough to stan people you dont even know???
The idea of having an idol itself is sick, no man or woman is worth being put on a pedestal.
@@khadyadjisall5708the most logical point of view!!
Idol, bias for what!???
@@khadyadjisall5708 truth but idol is just a name for a type of performer, it doesn’t automatically mean someone idolizes them
@@xrrgr Theoretically yes, but the level devotion and insanity this people are showing to their “idol” is crazy and unhealthy.
My middle finger stand for those fans who will defend this guys. 🖕
The current Korean President was the Prosecutor General of this case. Is that on his wikipedia page?
Even though I've already known this issue for many years, I still feel shocked and terrified by watching this report. It's soooooooo disgusting. And I hope there is no one experiencing this pain again in society. 😢😢😢
14:29 you mightve missed this part..
With these low convictions, Korea has shown how unimportant the victims' rights are to them.
on the other hand, how wealth and power they value in their society. They can do EVERYTHING without any consequent.
"Women victims". There is a difference.
What a joke! 2 years max? SK needs to fix their laws.
It’s the fans that are the worst. They are in denial, make excuses, and allow their idols to think they are above it all and have the right to do what they want. They’re as disgusting as their idols who have committed those crimes. I feel so bad for the journalist that did right by the victims.
몇년 전 BBC에서 한국 클럽 성폭행 뉴스를 처음 보도했을 때, 클럽에 갔고 남이 주는 술을 받아마셨다는 이유로 피해자들을 욕하고 조롱하는 한국인 댓글이 정말 많이 달렸음. 그것까지 취재됐으면 정말 볼만했을 듯
아직도 한남들은 패미욕하고 여성비하하는게 일상인데, 이런거 대대적으로 다뤄저야됨 한국 출산율이 0인게 뭔 집값타령하고 있는데 이ㅡ사회는 여성에ㅜ관한한 인식은 좌든 우든 토나올정도로 저질이고 수준이 낮음
I'm glad it's not the case anymore 😌
@@onuspromis7166 I checked the video again and saw many of the recent comments were still accusing the victims that they must have been aware of what they'd go through in clubs. 5 years from the scandal and nothing has been changed.
@@moi-wr2dbit's such a shame for koreans, they have the highest literacy and then these type of news come in, I think these things must happen every day there, it's just they are non reported because of their ✌🏻connections✌🏻with higher people. Such a shame for the fans of these grp
@@onuspromis7166Sadly, it hasn’t gotten any better but worse. Backlash against feminist movements is becoming one of the biggest social problems in Korea. Not only people would accuse women for ‘not being careful enough,’ or acting in a way that would lure men to commit sex crimes, young Korean men have extremely deprived understandings in feminism and are continuously demonising the movement. This sociocultural atmosphere is already educating the youth to think that speaking about feminism is ‘dangerous,’ shushing the mouth of victims, human rights activists, and simply people who believe in equal rights. I have a whole lot to say about this so lmk if you hope to know more
Shockingly low sentences. We call for a proper investigation. I appreciate the BBC covering this topic, which has been completely ignored by the Korean media.
Hollywood stars went to Esptain Island, but the BBC is hiding it.😅
This case needs to reopen.
This is absolutely disgusting. How can they get such low sentences for such horrifying crimes? People need to start thinking with their brains rather than other people's money and fame. Thinking about the pain the victims must be living with. Praying for them and one day justice will be served to them like it should have been all this while
5 years? 2 years? This damn low sentence and you expect to decrease the crime rate?
What should these men be afraid of if the law isn't scary enough?
one year is nothing for ruining a person's life
When will women be treated as human beings in South Korea...?
Yes, in Korea, but also all over the world since women continue to be victimized to some degree in every society.
Patriarchy is a worldwide issue hun not a South Korea issue. What’s with these Americans everywhere making this some korea issue. This is a human issue. This is not some “exclusive to Korean women” kind of issue.
@@zakeernalir2871 No need to use the condescending and sexist "hun", though. There's no indication whether the original OP is male or female.
I once saw a video of kpop idol drinking & asking a fan girl for online date on live stream. The video was posted by his fans themselves saying they were jealous of that fan girl. I felt disgusted. That girl would be a teenager. I'm not going to say who he is. If you know, you know.
who is he?
@@nancyveronica6851easy to find if you search..
Is it jungkook??? He has been behaving weirdly comfortable with his fans on his live streams...
@@nancyveronica6851did u find out
His name wouldn't happen to be Christopher, would it?
Gosh this is so shocking and disgusting. The dark side.of kpop and kdrama. The journalist is really brave to bring out the truth. She must have faced a lot of obstacles.
As a Korean, this is very painful news
This is the K-Pop that we don't see. This is the reality of it all.. Embrace it...
can’t hide from the truth
you all support financially, as fans..
🤔 👎🏻👎🏻
✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
Devil 👿 behind that face girls should learn something from this around the world
Its the truth.
@@Kamel718 Yes, obviously..so that's painful
And some people still defending them ......
South East Asian kboos publicly supporting seung Lee
@@user-rg8ko6ib6c yeah and also some fans secretly arranging a fan meeting with him ( after this incident)is so idiotic.
Then they are not considered as people.... they are devils...wtf... after happening so many disgusting things they are still defending them...🤢Chhi...😡☠️
I have seen some comments from these lunatic evil fans waiting for the comeback of Seungri and the others. Despicable people, all of them.
I can't type anymore...I'm fed-up...
버닝썬 스캔들의 짧은 비디오 요약은 여기에서 영어로 보실 수 있습니다:
A shorter video summary of the Burningsun scandal here in English:
czcams.com/video/CiodDsIEzTo/video.htmlsi=3BV7kxhDGiwZ7mCs
#koreanactor #kdrama #scandal
The most disturbing part is that the enablers of high rank police officer was acquitted….
Why, they are doing the same!!
Covering for the high ones, they are covering themselves!!
It's sickening to think that nothing has changed. Seungri has become a pariah, but all over Seoul men in other nightclubs are still drugging and raping women. What's being done to stop it?
Not just in Korea but all over the world
@@emmavu09Exactly, which is why the focus on Seungri, and Burning Sun, makes little sense to me. The problem is not solved by forcing one kpop idol to quit and shutting down one nightclub. Nothing's actually changed for the better.
Its really a toxic place to live in for women.. i now totally understand women's mindset to not get married or have kids in SK.
Thats a little silly, cause its probably not most korean man, who are absolute psychos and this is like fear based people who say "Oh my parents got divorced, so I will never marry either!", acting like they cant choose their spouses and make better choices. Always assuming life is the same for everyone. The reasons people dont have kids in SK are numerous. Not enough living space, high costs, high rates of stress and depression, fear, unhinged school demands etc..
Why the hell were the sentences for these atrocious crimes so ridiculously short?!!!
Many Korean men praise the perpetrators and insult the victims for this incident. They also say that these events are experienced by all Korean men, and that Korean men have the right to watch sexual video.
Well, then there's porn for that where the acts are filmed with consent.
Porn is illegal in Korea lol
@NeoInoue-mj8bf Wow. Even then, the situation is bad.
@@jojipantsu They watch foreign porn.
What thats why the B4 movement is growing , Korean justice is corrupt as Hell
THIS is journalism! Competence and courage in one person.
A general reminder to all criminals out there, what is done in secret shall eventually be exposed.
I am so happy this reported dared to expose it all !!! So crazy that men have such power in Korea, even police involved.. but sentence time is ridiculous…
The online trolls in S. Korean are really twisted and sick. They like to troll the victims, like how they trolled the families who lost loved ones in the Seoul Halloween crowd crush.
Youngsu Oh
Money??
Many have some money contry?
A country Without religion there is no moral...
@@warsonggulch6998😅😅
Korea is devout Christian country. Dumbo
South Korea needs a change in its setup, men can do no wrong and women are easily 2nd class citizens, when the police turn a blind eye then the offenders are empowered. Rape is almost legal in the UK now with 98% of cases resulting in no criminal charges. We all need to keep the world safe for women, power corrupts.
As a Korean woman, I agree😭
Just what place on this beautiful earth is safe for women?
@@simple__k-lover Did you know that South Korea has the highest rate of domestic violence in the world?
@@user-er8yg2tc2x Ik
Hollywood stars went to Esptain Island, but the BBC is hiding it😅
지켜줘야할 인권과 생명을 무시해버린 역겨운 악마들의 범행들 그러나 고작 형량은 터무니없을 정도로 최악이었고 여전히 그들은 아무렇지않게 뻔뻔한 얼굴들을 드리내며 아무런 죄책감도 없이 살아가고있다 이 문제는 다시 철저히 재수사하여야한다 그리고 수고해주신 여기자님들과 bbc에 감사드립니다
How is this getting posted after so many years?
Dont forget to goo hara. She had a big role to help this case.
It’s in the full documentary 🙌🏼
@@rftg1793Where can I find the full documentary?!
@@meysam6221 in the other BBC channel ‘BBC Service’ if I remember correctly
@@rftg1793thank you!!
a part of me feels since she helped them, some paid to get rid of for working on exposing them. her help led to some powerful people being exposed.
여러 여성들 인생 망치고 국가 망신 죄 까지 저질렀음에도
형량이 고작 몇년...
저들 이미 벌써 출소 했다. 😤😤😤😤
Sorry to say your judicial system is f ...
You mean fucked
I am hoping the women in Korea can have more protection and respect in coming future.
In South America the civilians would kill them on the street. In America, they "kill themselves" in prison...unless you're a politician.
The entertainment industry all around the world is like this. This is not a South Korean issue on its own. If you can make a company millions, you can get away with crimes of all categories.
korean judical system is fucked
The Korean people are very thankful that the BBC has dealt with a very corrupt case that was buried in place of the corrupt media in Korea.
As the political community is heavily involved in this case, no matter how much the public talks about it, the government is in a hurry to cover it with gossip from other celebrities. It is still doing. Those who have taken courage in this case are dead and silent.
As a Korean, I stand for BBC.
Big Black ⬛ Cock .😂😂😂😂
the worst part is the high ranking police official who got off SCOT FREE
😤😤😤
😮😮😮😮😮😮 this is why we shouldn’t idolise famous people
Absolutely 💯
Real.
Sooo true
Yes but this happens with any male perpetrators, famous or not
الحقيقة! اتمنى من الناس عدم تقديس المشاهير.
Finally a documentary....we need a longer one! And more attention to this ...
saddly this kind of stuff happens everywhere, but looks like in entertainment world is even worse
I am more concerned about their fans, really disgusting even though their idol has become a suspect but still defended by fans
A lot of them are very delusional.
Even crazy mostly girls
Even up to this moment, his cheap fans are still defending the perpetrator, reporting comments condemning the perpetrator and finally being deleted from CZcams, really disgusting!
Most of those people are women, A fly in the ointment
Those monsters got such light sentences - that's a mockery of justice
These men look so innocent but are monsters inside
Nothing has changed. Thats the saddest part. I wonder what those fans of the convicted artists are doing now after they attacked the people who exposed their criminal idols.
Some of them are still fans. Too many.
The concept of Kpop is wrong from the start. You can't call a simple human IDOL, is just a human being after all.
i always thinking abt this, they trying to make perfect thing called IDOL and people keep forgetting that they were just human being
You people calling simple human star and goddess too. Your hypocricy is finest
@@user-rg8ko6ib6c who are exactyl these "you people"?
Hollywood stars went to Esptain Island, but the BBC is hiding it.😅
@@user-jy3ux5iy5f why are you talking to me
The journalist is such a brave women
those sentences are a joke. they're so low it's like they're trying to mock the victims
@BBC please post the full documetary here. This channel has more audience than the others
where i can watch full doc?
@@diannita5477 in CZcams Channel “BBC News Korea”
@@diannita5477 BBC World Sevice/ BBC Korea
@@diannita5477 czcams.com/video/9EEp1q_iMYc/video.html&ab_channel=BBCWorldService
type burning sun BBC
Fans need to open their eyes. Their idols are just like this.
The most toxic industry
How the fuck are these people not just forever locked away and forgotten is beyond me...
1 year and 6 months wow .
A very disgusting crime. Is this a culture thing ? Because wow
Yes, it is!!
For korean men and law women are not humans!!
You should also watch a video about forgein girls who were rabed, reported it but got nothing but a letter saying their case is not valid!!
They couldnt even go to the court!!
@@user-hl4vl8qd7h shocking 😳 , such a cowardly crime 😑 . I feel like the men of Korea need to make a stand for their women if the women are being treated like this.
You have mums, sisters family and friends. What about your daughters Korean men ?
@@g4rrrrrrrr what??
Korean men stand up for women??
Why? This situation goes for decades and is so convenient for them!!
Men are also mistreated by the culture but women are low class citizens!!
Men throw the word feminist like an insult so I don't expect anything from them!
Even famous women with a carrier are being mistreated or have to leave their work to become housewives!!
Even in western world there are lots of women who try to make us believe that they became home stay mums by choice and they are having a great time!!
From my experience as a grown up woman and a professional, I have to say this:
There is no equality in every kind of relationship when both parties don't have the same financial status!!
The rest is a big lie from people who have problems but don't want to accept them and make them look pathetic!!
As for South Korea....
There will be no change at all for many years to come...
And I feel sorry cause I live in Seoul and hate this situation but I try to help in every possible way as I don't care about what people and especially men think!!
I will raise my voice as a proud feminist, mother, professional, friend!!
Some female fans still defending them.😡they don’t know the extent of their actions.
South Korea's law is really enabling this, imagine having all of those crimes but only face a couple of years of punishment? they will do it again.
Call the Taxi Driver team. If only they exist in real life but these journalists/reporters are real heroes.
My favorite show
Thanks for the work bbc. Sexual crimes like burningsun, nth room and other molkas are common in Korea.
Hollywood stars went to Esptain Island, but the BBC is hiding it.😅
@@user-jy3ux5iy5f Just going to a place doesn't indicate they were involved in or knew about anything illegal..... It just shows that the Epstein tried to forge links with powerful or well known people and some of them were happy to enjoy the hospitality of a connected person on a private island. If someone with connections invited me to enjoy a holiday on a private island I might go too, wouldn't you ?
And how are the BBC hiding it ? if you google "BBC News Epstein island" there are plenty of articles about it. There are loads even from this year.... Here are some titles of the top results I got from BBC news :
"Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton named in court files"
"Prince Andrew 'spent weeks' at Epstein home - witness"
"US judge orders names of more than 170 Jeffrey Epstein associates to be released"
There is even an article titled "Jeffrey Epstein list: Who is named in court filings?" Where they reel off some of the names....
So???? It doesn’t change the facts that crimes were committed. Pfft!🙄
@@kitcab3527 Shut up white man white culture stained with blood 🖕🏻
thanks so much for launching this documentary. at this point, when and where people almost forgot and were forgotten.
Korea should work really hard to resolve this problem or I don't think this country has any healthy future ahead. Everytime I bring up this issue around people, they think this is a misfortunate events happened to a few unlucky victims. And thanks for putting out that it is not. This is a case for everyone living in Korea. no one's exception.
Also hope this issue will spread out globally all over the world so we can all work hard to solve and care to make this a better world, country,and society.
Keep away from entertainment, it’s how the evil gets to you
Huge respect for this female repoter🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏