REMOVAL OF coaches FOR TORTURE AND VIOLENCE of GYMNASTs | MIXED GROUPS WITH BOYS | Lena Krupina
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- In the video, I talk about the online meeting of Irina Aleksandrovna Viner-Usmanova with the President of Russia Vladimir Putin and the problems that they discussed. About mixed group teams in rhythmic gymnastics, where they appeared and how it will look.
About football player Rob Gronkowski, who performed in rhythmic gymnastics.
Funny video with Dina and Arina Averin.
About the birthday of the first Soviet Olympic champion Marina Lobach and the film released in her honor.
About the first online rhythmic gymnastics tournament and Lalu Kramarenko about him. And her preparation for the tournament and the complexity of the performance.
About a scandal in the Swiss Gymnastics Federation with trainers. About bullying gymnasts, violence and torture.
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Physical and psychological well being of the gymnasts should be the top priority. Thanks for the updates!
I believe that having boys in the group competition will open up several possibilities of new elements to the choreography, just as the men in ballet lift the girls and make incredible jumps, without diminishing it but rather valuing them, I think that in RG it will also enrich
Unfortunately verbal and psychological abuse are common in gymnastics. It seems to happen in many countries and it’s just not right. The coaches think this pushes the gymnasts to be better and in a way it does but I think it’s also why many rhythmic gymnasts have such short careers. There’s only so long that you can take the abuse and being pushed past your boundaries, training on no food, etc. This can lead to more injuries because the girls aren’t eating enough for all their training and when you are so stressed for such a long time the body starts failing and you get injured more easily. I trained in dance for a very long time under one of the best teachers, but I was constantly anxious and unhappy because she was always screaming at us from a very young age. It didn’t make me a better dancer, just made me hate training.
Also I feel bad for Lala because she’s so young to be going through the pandemic away from her family, trying to train under restrictions. Having only a small room and no hallway access is not enough to prepare for a competition! Poor girl.
It’s not only verbal and psychological abuse, it’s also physical abuse, look at the pain young children are put through by their gymnastic coaches czcams.com/video/pWtsKBr-8M4/video.html
I'm Swiss and I observed the scandal in the past days. I can see that most of Swiss / Europeans are triggered by this kind of training mentality and treatment. So it wasn't surprising that they fired the trainers after the allegations became public. In our mentality/opinion, you can become a champion with discipline, force and hard work but harrassment and harsh treatment like this is not necessary. An example of this is Swiss artistic gymnast Giulia Steingruber (Olympic 2016 Vault medalist) coached by Bulgarian trainer Zoltan Yordanov. Anyhow, I think it's just a mentality thing, in general ppl in former Soviet union are tougher in many aspects and combined with "controversial", strong trainers they are unbeatable. And this is why Russia will always be on top and Switzerland the underdog.
@I M well, stato satellite yo
I train rhythmic gymnastics at home with help of one UK gymnast and I am a boy. My biggest problem is that the closest rhythmic gymnastics club is in town that is 2 hours away from my town. We also visit that town very often since my grandparents live there. Right now I am able to do those jumps from Dina's clubs routine and I am very close to do some of Arina's and Dina's risks. I really think that everyone should try rhythmic gymnastics. Also I think that boys should have European and world championships in rhythmic gymnastics
Daggi Azz aw.. I’m sorry that the closest club is so far away. At least you get to visit your family! I wish you luck with your journey, and I as well would love to see men rg!
Gerry Duarte how rude! People that think like that are the reason there’s been so much negativity in rg.
@@annan583 thank you so much
@Gerry Duarte Sport does define gender. I am not gay or LGBT and I define myself as a straight male. You are just being rude and following the stereotypes. I don't want to make enemies and to fight.
Do you have something against girls playing basketball or football or hockey or boxing or handball? Or Boys dancing, doing rhythmic gymnastics, figure skating and artistic gymnastics or synchronized swimming?
@@annan583 that is right
Sports are mostly a mans world and a sport where girls are the stars I think is very positive. I have seen many discussions about who is the best foolball player of the history Cristiano, Messi, Pele or Maradonna, but nobody pay attetion to the girls, not just in football is the same thing in basketball, Volleyball, cycling and many others. People pay attetion to the girls in few sports like tennis, skating and artistic gymnastics.
I have seen good presentations of men in rythmic gymnast but many men are les flexible, have problems with equilibriums and can't do some moves.
Your channel is such a good news source for Rhythmic Gymnastics! :)
Does anyone in their heart of hearts truly believe that this (beautiful) sport is healthy?
Samantha Mathews it is easy to be fooled when gymnasts are raised with a plastic smile on their face, and get such sweet rewards when they win. We see only the joy on their faces when they enter the podium, but not the pain on those that didn’t make it.
Back in the day before Galima Sugurova, gymnasts had very normal size bodies. Galima had exceptional flexibility, and thus seemed to start that trend. Some people feel you must be super thin to be flexible, but it's not true. Look at rhythmic videos from 1970s to see how it was. Flexibility was not the focus.
Ofc it's not healthy but rhythmic gymnasts always hide it behind their smiles they trained them to do that too
@seu cú excellent point. Sports are incredibly unhealthy
I think I wouldn't watch men doing gymnastics but I think everyone should have the possibility to do it and I wish every male gymnast the best of luck! :-)
I just don't want to see them dressed like the girls. But Japan has men's rhythmic gymnastics. Very masculine.
Ditto
About the male gymnasts, they obviously have some measure of talent and I would not oppose or deny someone's choice of career/artistic expression based on a narrow view on aesthetics. It will be tricky to see how individual male gymnastics is handled, but a mixed group sounds like an idea worth exploring. To see the men and women mix together in a flourish of skill and grace, that is not something we should pass over. It's going to take time to find a proper venue for the men.
I like mixed teams,but like skating. The guy dressed like a guy and girl like a girl. I experienced verbal abuse and physical neglect as an artistic gymnast. Called hideous names by one spotter and dropped on my face by a coach whereas the bridge of my nose was cracked. Not sure what makes people abuse their position.
Israely coaches and italian coach looks so kind, unlike others.
john alamariz and Belarus too
Italian are
especially spela dragas and juleitta cantaluppi, i can tell you they really love in acoachying and motehrly way their gymants.spela raised agiurgiuculese in her home for 4 year when she was a child ,and cantaluppi saw milena ,talisa torreti and Raffaeli(especially talisa and raffaeli)growing up since they were really really young,i jnow personal episdes she kept protected her gymanst from politics in rhythmic . i feel like maccarani is already not as much sweet althought
@@annan583 liubov and the young blond one seem realli nice people
@@rhythmicmusicswap4173 Julietta was a very good gymnast in her day. And if you look at her videos you can tell she loved doing RG.
I’m from spain and mixed teams have existed for years in lower levels already, they just couldn’t compete in national level, which now will be possible. Such exciting news!
Lena, what do you think are the implications of Viner’s comments to Pres Putin that unis are not preparing gymnastics coaches, but people who provide a service? Is this her way of saying that it is OK to be abusive and bully, and not to care for gymnasts’ feelings?
I think men’s rhythmic looks great.
I think it's a concern about the training of trainers who are graduating from universities now and I think Viner trying to do everything well
I would like to see mixed Groups, sonds like fun. :)
If they just burn out the Gymnasts to get success and never care for them in any way, ruin their souls.... I lose my love for Rhythmic Gymnastics.
Then the love should be lost now. Because burning out the gymnasts you get success and not caring for them afterwards has been the method forever.
@@Constantin9va I have been a part of dancing and gymnastics. I know how burning out prevents success, because it simply leads into black outs. There is a difference between hard tiring work and crossing lines with burning out. To watch gymnasts closely to not cross this line is the responsibility of coaches. But I also have expierenced coaches who just wanted to feel better by mocking someone in a narcisstic way. Just to call yourself a coach does not mean you are able to coach.
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I'm loving your channel! Awesome! I'm boy from Brazil and I do rhythmic gymnastics, I love to do it, I think RG is for everyone, RG is the best sport in world! We need to inclusion mens, I believe in word with equality ❤🇧🇷
Wow boys !!!
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But sorry, russia isnt better in this case! Why nobody ttalking about this?
Because the brainwashing is so perfectly done.
Ina Gjukic Well, at the moment we talk about the Swiss team because it is in the news that there coach was suspended. Nobody said that training methods are better in Russia 🙄
You will always find some place that is equally bad or worse. But does that make anything better for the Swiss gymnasts who suffered psychologically? I think not.
And therefore I think its disrespectful to „wash away“ the issue with the Swiss head coach, just because it seems less important in comparison to the things happening in Russia or anywhere else.
@@mathildewesendonck7225 thanks for answering! I agreed
No boys!!!
Why?
@@scarletlira1380 This most aesthetic of sports was developed with girls in mind. I do not think that most fans will want to see the changes to RG that will come if they add boys to the mix. Certainly I will not want to. If they think as a business decision it is better to add boys, maybe they will do it, but I think it will hurt them. It is unclear why they would consider it in the first place. To me, this is the best sport in the world. It's not broken, so don't fix it. I do not think I am in the minority, but I don't know for sure. Do you think they should allow boys? If so, why?
David Carpenter I wouldn’t mind having men competing, but under different rules, different judges, etc. Men have such a different body structure than women, and in a sport like this, it will show. We would see new elements, new risks, with men’s gymnastics. There would be less flexibility, but more power and speed. And with this new cop we have right now, speed and apparatus handling is everything, and flexibility is near nothing.
Strange that Swiss gymnasts are complaining. They're not a world force in this sport and some of their girls are in fact fat.
Wtfff, why does the body matter? Stop body shaming
They can complain because they don’t have as much to lose by speaking out. This is not an isolated incident. I’m proud of the Swiss athletes who spoke out! ❤️
none of them are fat, they are just not underweight. they should speak out, no one should allow a person to verbally and physically assault them. you werent there at the trainings, so you have no right to speak on this issue.
vernon hendricks according to your logic, people shouldn‘t be complaining if they are are not a „world force“? Wow. And you appearently think it’s fine to call young girls with a perfectly normal body mass index „fat“?? 🤨
People like you with such comments are one of the main reasons for eating disorders in these sports. Because it is very offensive to call people fat, ugly or whatever. Especially young girls who go through puberty and have a lot of body issues.
I hope that none of the Swiss gymnasts we are talking about reads your comment!
bulgaria had already some scandals like young chilena gilrs verbally abused and forbidden to eat ,with phsicological trauma,and the little thing like a gymnats tried to suiced at 2016... it's not only bulgaria,russiaand other country are not free guilty,we need to understnad you can raise up a champion without abusing them(not only phisically),fathshaming them every single day,and caring for their health