Trae's passing tricks, Giannis vs. Gobert, Rose's scoring | 5 Thoughts

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  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
  • 5 Thoughts: A look at a unique part of Trae Young's passing; Utah's scheme around Rudy Gobert to build a wall against the MVP Giannis; Brandon Ingram's new shot; Derrick Rose's scoring explosion and Kendrick Nunn's rookie of the year chances.
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Komentáře • 228

  • @martindagoat3909
    @martindagoat3909 Před 4 lety +208

    I like how at 8:20 he shows a highlight from when drose was on the bulls and was playing the pistons. Then shows a highlight when drose was on the pistons and was playing the bulls.

    • @ThinkingBasketball
      @ThinkingBasketball  Před 4 lety +103

      I try to stick little connections like this in every video. Awesome that you caught that.

    • @martindagoat3909
      @martindagoat3909 Před 4 lety +3

      Thinking Basketball Impressive. I’ll make sure to be on the lookout for more in the future.

    • @captainjocksperow1058
      @captainjocksperow1058 Před 4 lety +3

      Thinking Basketball ur an artist bro

  • @charlieliptrott8473
    @charlieliptrott8473 Před 4 lety +83

    "ptsd related turnover" is my new favourite quote

  • @jackabah4279
    @jackabah4279 Před 4 lety +224

    I love how there’s a “the Giannis Rules” like how the Bad Boy Pistons had a “the Jordan Rules”
    I wonder if he can overcome this challenge like MJ did

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho Před 4 lety +27

      Jack Abah playing zones isn’t Giannis rules, it’s playing zones. Watch last fiba World Cup and you’ll understand. Interesting to me, as an european, watching NBA teams using zones

    • @adamv9892
      @adamv9892 Před 4 lety +8

      Viejotrueno to build on that the Lakers have faced more zone defense than any other team so it’s specific to Giannis and thus can’t really be considered “Giannis Rules”

    • @sofakingonmynuts1438
      @sofakingonmynuts1438 Před 4 lety +2

      He is shooting 3s, are you not watching?

    • @simonanderson4858
      @simonanderson4858 Před 4 lety +35

      MJ didn't really overcome it. They got old.

    • @Aaron-nm1ob
      @Aaron-nm1ob Před 4 lety +2

      I doubt it. Unless he becomes a good 3 point shooter. Not average. They'll be happy to let him shoot average wide open all the time and make the "Giannis Wall" like they did in the playoffs.

  • @joshuapark7350
    @joshuapark7350 Před 4 lety +101

    I honestly learn so much about the NBA from this channel. Thanks a lot!

  • @megakirbyx
    @megakirbyx Před 4 lety +476

    "61% of Trae's assists are layups"
    Yeah cuz those are the only shots his trash teammates can make lol

    • @kiccz39
      @kiccz39 Před 4 lety +39

      as a hawks fan that is a fact

    • @sevsthepokey
      @sevsthepokey Před 4 lety +21

      Young core, just wait. Hunter and Reddish combined for 44 tonight. Jabari Parker is finally playing like a 2nd overall pick. Collins and Huerter aren't even playing right now, and ICE TRAY is gonna be MVP pretty damn soon. Keep sleepin

    • @legoat3587
      @legoat3587 Před 4 lety +7

      Watching his trash teammates fumble the ball from sweet dimes and miss easy layups half the time hurts me.

    • @kiccz39
      @kiccz39 Před 4 lety +3

      jd i agree im not sleepin, im just saying right now We Suck straight up lol

    • @Sam-oe4dt
      @Sam-oe4dt Před 4 lety +1

      jd tree won’t be mvp soon bruh maybe like 5. Years and also we will keep sleeping those guys may be good but there in the west there never getting anywhere bruh

  • @Max20263
    @Max20263 Před 4 lety +79

    Can you do a breakdown on Eric Paschall?

  • @empathytrail4758
    @empathytrail4758 Před 4 lety +14

    I love this channel because it's basically a Pros and Cons on everything in basketball rather that hold everything on a pedestal and only showing highlights

  • @GustavoBidarra
    @GustavoBidarra Před 4 lety +5

    It's so cool seeing the evolution from Trae from your last analysis video about him, where you said he picks up the ball prematurely, to now, where you said that he likes to hold and be patient whit the ball. You are a beast in the analysis game

  • @johngriller4997
    @johngriller4997 Před 4 lety +16

    That “hey there’s trae” as Rose easily scores over him, was gold 😂

  • @davidfish1
    @davidfish1 Před 4 lety +443

    If you watch these videos, you’re a true NBA fan

    • @wadeaiello3261
      @wadeaiello3261 Před 4 lety +26

      ahaha honestly this channel changed the way i watch basketball

    • @berryegan8926
      @berryegan8926 Před 4 lety +11

      Or you’re just a statistics nerd like me.

    • @kyungjoonhwang5440
      @kyungjoonhwang5440 Před 4 lety +7

      yo moms a true NBA fan

    • @user-kv7dv8lw8w
      @user-kv7dv8lw8w Před 4 lety +3

      ur dad is a true nba fan

    • @rolmodel12.
      @rolmodel12. Před 4 lety +10

      In all seriousness: THE best basketball channel.
      Far more educational than a highlight video. And far more entertaining than a training/educational video.

  • @joshsteinkopf145
    @joshsteinkopf145 Před 4 lety +51

    I laughed out loud at 2:03

    • @dangon8138
      @dangon8138 Před 4 lety +1

      Josh Steinkopf me TOOOOOO Lololol

  • @jc_0108
    @jc_0108 Před 4 lety +18

    This has to be one of the most underrated CZcams channels on the planet

  • @trvspvrk
    @trvspvrk Před 4 lety +10

    Trae Young is most definitely an all star

  • @songsong1608
    @songsong1608 Před 4 lety +22

    "Hey there's Trae"

  • @raw687
    @raw687 Před 4 lety +6

    It still baffles me that this channel has so few subscribers when the content is so damn good. I'd replace all of stephen a smith, max, shaq, kenny, etc. just to watch this on a consistent basis.

    • @joshuat6124
      @joshuat6124 Před 4 lety +2

      I don't watch stephen a and max anymore - what a waste of time!

  • @fazebooquifius3186
    @fazebooquifius3186 Před 4 lety +2

    Just wanted to say that I love the frequency that you are putting content out at. This new 5 thoughts series and your podcasts are great for keeping up date with what's going on in the league and of course your more in depth player profiles and discussions are in the upper echelon of basketball content on the internet. Keep it up. I'm going to be getting your book for myself for Christmas and I can't wait to dig into it.

  • @ronenhet.2920
    @ronenhet.2920 Před 4 lety +1

    I just gotta say you are by far my favourite basketball channel and probably my favourite basketball analyst, its really rare to see someone have such great analysis videos that are also this entertaining. Love it

  • @Broooksable
    @Broooksable Před 4 lety +1

    These are my favorite nba videos. Perfect breakdown, goes over multiple topics, and just a smart basketball guy.

  • @En_Gho
    @En_Gho Před 4 lety +2

    @Thinking Basketball
    This is an excellent channel. Keep up the Great Work!

  • @PatrickRGannon
    @PatrickRGannon Před 4 lety +1

    Got away from you a bit, but mane love your work. Im a Trae fan so take it ez. God Bless, stay safe!

  • @SWANK-SAN
    @SWANK-SAN Před 4 lety

    I hope you do more of these, this was great

  • @dangon8138
    @dangon8138 Před 4 lety +2

    This video was SOOOO GOOD I love how you joked around too! “Hey there’s Trae” HAHAHA

  • @notsocooldude7720
    @notsocooldude7720 Před 4 lety +10

    I find it odd that no one is talking about Kyle Lowry having the best season of his career at 33 years old

  • @nirvanachile24
    @nirvanachile24 Před 4 lety

    These videos are so good. Keep 'em coming.

  • @ehtikhet
    @ehtikhet Před 4 lety

    Dude these videos and your developing style are absolutely top notch! Cheers! 👍

  • @TheBounceNBA
    @TheBounceNBA Před 4 lety +7

    If only Trae has better shooting teammates.
    Although at this point, I believe he deserves to be an All Star.

  • @jacobchaffee24
    @jacobchaffee24 Před 4 lety

    Love these 5 thoughts videos 💯 please keep them coming 👍

  • @cwilson9341
    @cwilson9341 Před 4 lety +120

    How would you evaluate Lebron's season thus far? Do you think he's playing at an MVP level?

    • @lucabush9739
      @lucabush9739 Před 4 lety +13

      obviously he is

    • @tribj001
      @tribj001 Před 4 lety +9

      Oh he is! The king is balling and looks as great as ever even if his game has changed and evolved a lot since his Miami/Cleveland absolute prime days!

    • @Aaron-nm1ob
      @Aaron-nm1ob Před 4 lety +6

      He's my last favorite because of the flopping, being a drama queen, always having to get his way, having to have two other stars to win a championship, and lack of defense but I have to give him props. This year he is playing D and playing amazing ball.

    • @insiderdtleftright5585
      @insiderdtleftright5585 Před 4 lety +8

      Myself being a Toronto fan I’ve always had a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to LeBron , but I have to give him props, he’s playing defence and putting up numbers , MVP level? Maybe not, you’ve got Harden ,Giannis and I would even put luka (offensively) in the conversation at this point , but then again it is way to early to be making a call for mvp

    • @vickhj6333
      @vickhj6333 Před 4 lety

      he got them numbers yo

  • @aaronwolf390
    @aaronwolf390 Před 4 lety

    Love the format!

  • @juliankelly2946
    @juliankelly2946 Před 4 lety +3

    Ben Taylor x J. Kyle Mann is the basketball analysis equivalent of Tupac x Biggie lets goooooo

  • @josephfernandez5215
    @josephfernandez5215 Před 4 lety

    love your work !

  • @drakehoward9631
    @drakehoward9631 Před 4 lety +2

    i love this series

  • @moisesacevedo6174
    @moisesacevedo6174 Před 4 lety

    Listening to this guy on the analyzing NBA would be really must watch.

  • @emintd21
    @emintd21 Před 4 lety

    I absolutely love your videos.

  • @douglasmaina141
    @douglasmaina141 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you 😊😊

  • @Industrious420
    @Industrious420 Před 4 lety +33

    Breakdown of LBJ's defensive intensity & uptick so far this season.

  • @n34m
    @n34m Před 4 lety +1

    i know you've already gotten this praise, but i really enjoy this format for the regular season.

  • @xVrity
    @xVrity Před 4 lety

    these videos are so good

  • @goodmusic4389
    @goodmusic4389 Před 4 lety +2

    6th man of the year should be Marcus smart. Biggest impact for any bench player. 38% 3 point shooting on like 7 attempts and UNBELIEVABLE defense 1-5

  • @Momo_Nana
    @Momo_Nana Před 4 lety +10

    Can we get a KAT breakdown. That night against Utah where he hit 7 threes essentially nullifing Rudy was amazing

    • @Momo_Nana
      @Momo_Nana Před 4 lety

      @phillip muskwe oh okay. I never listened to the podcast. Is it free?

    • @sofakingonmynuts1438
      @sofakingonmynuts1438 Před 4 lety

      Kat came out very strong this year and he is shooting that 3 as fast as curry

    • @levibertschi
      @levibertschi Před 4 lety +1

      Better not show last game, Kat got shut down by gobert pretty badly

  • @brettreese5838
    @brettreese5838 Před 4 lety +26

    Idc how bad trae young’s defense is...27 and 8 will make him an all star in the East

    • @ThinkingBasketball
      @ThinkingBasketball  Před 4 lety +32

      He's in a great position to *make* the East team...I'm think aloud about his actual level of play.

    • @toteispoe4
      @toteispoe4 Před 4 lety

      @@ThinkingBasketball How good do Trae and Reddish have to become for the Doncic trade to ever be viewed as a relatively even move for both teams?
      As a Hawks fan, I was exuberant when I saw they drafted Luka and then I was crestfallen when I saw news of the trade.
      Seeing Luka's current GOAT level of play has reawakened the bitterness and self-loathing that most Atlanta sports fans are familiar with.

  • @alexprs1513
    @alexprs1513 Před 4 lety

    Great video

  • @blackmanwhitesuit
    @blackmanwhitesuit Před 4 lety

    Summary: they're in considerations.
    Also Dimedrop is awesome. Nice to see you guys on this together.

  • @slimeyladude
    @slimeyladude Před 4 lety +1

    You the best youtuber ever bro

  • @chrissullivan6572
    @chrissullivan6572 Před 4 lety

    I love your stuff.

  • @des0163
    @des0163 Před 4 lety +6

    Do a Zion college break down before his return from injury

  • @gta4life112
    @gta4life112 Před 4 lety

    Dime drop and thinking basketball!!

  • @yvans.
    @yvans. Před 4 lety +7

    I mean to be fair last year Giannis abused of Gobert so we gonna see if Utah will be able to constantly maintain production in their 2nd matchups like the Raptors did.

    • @santisembe1229
      @santisembe1229 Před 4 lety

      Thought the same thing. Last year gobert couldn't do nothing against giannis

    • @misterbear1738
      @misterbear1738 Před 4 lety +1

      @@santisembe1229 Gobert definitely had a game where he made Giannis play poorly. And then their second game of the year, Giannis came with the fury and Gobert was trying to flop all game if I remember correctly n got in foul trouble. Two great players, trading blows.

  • @divinemattress
    @divinemattress Před 4 lety

    Best NBA channel

  • @jeffreyxu6430
    @jeffreyxu6430 Před 4 lety

    Can you make a video on lakers defense? Great quality vids as always

  • @TallestFiddle
    @TallestFiddle Před 4 lety +1

    Can you do something on the Celtics, or one of the Celtics players? Love your videos.

  • @vincentsalvadorlatosa5077

    Wow! Utah Jazz defensive rotation and coverage was so great. No coach can ask for a better defense than that.

  • @haydenhills3592
    @haydenhills3592 Před 4 lety +2

    Rose need to play for a contender and keep investing in keeping his body strong. He could be a threat on a playoff team coming off the bench.

  • @dominic64tblightning24

    it is thinking basketball time

  • @AreYouFNQRAZII
    @AreYouFNQRAZII Před 2 lety

    Need an updated Trae video😂

  • @intendedexpression6609
    @intendedexpression6609 Před 4 lety +3

    No doubt an allstar especially in the east. If he played in the west it would've been a tough no but hes an allstar with the hakes for sure.

  • @raygivler
    @raygivler Před 4 lety +14

    "Preternatural" - Ben's increasing your vocabulary, not just your basketball IQ.

  • @siphillis
    @siphillis Před 4 lety +1

    I'd love to see a breakdown of why the Spurs defense is especially awful this year, and if it's likely to improve.

  • @lito5953
    @lito5953 Před 4 lety

    I gotta catch more D Rose games

  • @FakeName-ki8cw
    @FakeName-ki8cw Před 4 lety

    you should do a video breaking down fivethirtyeight’s RAPTOR metric

  • @gaozhi2007
    @gaozhi2007 Před 4 lety +1

    That Gobert rejection on Giannis. . .

  • @Aiamnobody
    @Aiamnobody Před 4 lety

    Speaking of Leonard, do you think he is injured? I've watched almost every clippers game and what I've noticed is that he seems slower and less explosive than last year. He is not able to pass defenders and can't create enough separation from them. Another thing I've noticed is that he is shooting very bad from 3 and all his shots are short, meaning he is not pushing on his knees. I think he still needs to recover from the last playoffs where he get hurt against the Bucks. I hope he gets better soon.
    Great jobs as always!

  • @nofuture_at_all
    @nofuture_at_all Před 4 lety

    Trae Young is so crafty. Elite passer

  • @natsukiisbestgirlnodoubt1272

    "69% from the rim"
    nice

  • @allhailtalib9990
    @allhailtalib9990 Před 4 lety

    You make basketball cool

  • @jacktheteo
    @jacktheteo Před 4 lety

    You have podcasts mate?

  • @mihirp9546
    @mihirp9546 Před 4 lety

    TRAE!!! pls lead us to playoffs plsss

  • @qwikscopez6619
    @qwikscopez6619 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey Ben, I've never had the time to look at Goberts IQ defensively, do you have any thoughts about it?

  • @dohyunio
    @dohyunio Před 4 lety

    Hey Bill, you gotta hire this guy man. WHAT ARE YOU DOING PODPOP.

  • @norlandy272
    @norlandy272 Před 4 lety

    Derrick Rose getting some love !

  • @movementman9777
    @movementman9777 Před 4 lety +1

    Is anyone going to talk about any of the other rookies besides Nunn, Barrett, and Morant? They haven’t been amazing, but they have all shown flashes of being pretty good already.

  • @bluerabbitjeevs
    @bluerabbitjeevs Před 4 lety

    Hi Ben what do you think are the chances of Goran Dragic winning 6th MOY? He's playing incredible so far coming off the bench for the first time in his career, and i think he's got more of chance than lou williams, onces people start recognising his impact

  • @kyrie4451
    @kyrie4451 Před 4 lety

    7:16 what are adjusted points and rTS%?

  • @ehtikhet
    @ehtikhet Před 4 lety

    Oh my god is right

  • @beastical198
    @beastical198 Před 4 lety

    You gotta do a video on Luke Kennard

  • @jaredaulick343
    @jaredaulick343 Před 4 lety

    any thoughts on Eric paschall?

  • @guccimane8941
    @guccimane8941 Před 4 lety +2

    I feel my IQ growing within the first minute of watching these videos

  • @magic4412
    @magic4412 Před 4 lety

    It impressed me seeing how Utah defended the Bucks in the first half of the game. As you showed in the video it requires a team effort to successfully limit Giannis offensive game!
    I think it's kinda problematic how moreyball doesn't consider broadening the team shot selection when the opposition defense successfully stop your shots close to the rim - imo this is one of the biggest weaknesses of moreyball as a system!
    For this reason I simply don't trust moreyball in the playoffs... I hope the Bucks try to expand their shot selection otherwise I just can't see them defeating elite teams with strong defenses in the playoffs!

  • @jdelgado216
    @jdelgado216 Před 4 lety

    1. Young is improving his O but he definitely needs to improve his defense
    2. BI will have a better season in the Pels than in any he played in LA, he won´t have the same pressure and will have more playtime and more control over the ball
    3. Giannis is improving his shooting but it is not enough if he truly wants to succeed in the playoffs
    4. Nunn has a great shoot at ROTY but that will be difficult with Ja Morant and maybe Zion
    5. I´m glad for DRose, he is playing great as 6th man

  • @raneynewman8315
    @raneynewman8315 Před 4 lety

    Please do a video discussing how Tatum leads the league in plus minus, even though he is in a shooting slump.

  • @FovouTonElafon
    @FovouTonElafon Před 4 lety

    Just a few additional thoughts: Do you think perhaps, maybe, potentially Giannis gets fouled and the refs don't happen to call a tiny amount of this small number of fouls in some games? Do you think that in this highlight block where Giannis "had no chance", it is possible than he had Gobert's left hand first hack his forearm and then grab his shoulder to pull him downwards?

  • @prodlilrasta
    @prodlilrasta Před 4 lety

    do you have twitter?

  • @mygaffer
    @mygaffer Před 4 lety

    Trae and Luka should get voted into the All Star game.

  • @triplewproductions8982

    4:09 Who else thought this was a normal shot at first?

  • @drlca6601
    @drlca6601 Před 4 lety

    How are you not mentioning the Raps right now?

  • @walter942
    @walter942 Před 4 lety

    Nothing about KAT or Wiggins improvement this year??

  • @samuel96860
    @samuel96860 Před 4 lety

    Typo at 3:35. You didn't put "4" in front of "3PA"

  • @garretgill7168
    @garretgill7168 Před 4 lety +1

    Can you do a Ja Morant analysis

  • @alexprs1513
    @alexprs1513 Před 4 lety

    👍

  • @ike.o6944
    @ike.o6944 Před 4 lety +11

    Trae Young is an all star over Ben Simmons right now as we speak!

    • @saiwaqa2573
      @saiwaqa2573 Před 4 lety

      However, Philly has a winning record.

    • @tanver14
      @tanver14 Před 4 lety +3

      @@saiwaqa2573 Who cares... his not improved a lick the last few years. Won't even attempt a jumpshot.
      Trae was a potential bust according to a lot of experts but has been a great playmaker so far and is shooting better than last season.

    • @saiwaqa2573
      @saiwaqa2573 Před 4 lety

      @@tanver14 I mean the league will care. Not having a winning record is what will prevent them from naming him an all star.

    • @tanver14
      @tanver14 Před 4 lety +3

      @@saiwaqa2573 I know that but Simmons should not be an all star his been disappointing and his passive aggressive. I agree with you record counts but Simmons should not be rewarded for it.

    • @saiwaqa2573
      @saiwaqa2573 Před 4 lety

      @@tanver14 I agree. But say for instance, he picks it up over the next two mnoths, he will get in before trae which sucks. As a Luka fan, i experienced the same shit last year... Luka should have been an all star last year. And if they lose their winning record, he will also get snubbed. Thats how it is.

  • @UltimatelyProficient
    @UltimatelyProficient Před 4 lety +2

    2:03 I think Thinking Basketball failed NNN after that pass 🤣

  • @DeadGivaway
    @DeadGivaway Před 4 lety +1

    How can you not show the dunk of giannis on Gobert and 2 other defenders ? At least he got him one time :D

  • @johnsmith1474
    @johnsmith1474 Před 4 lety

    T.B. suggestion for a video: "Playing like a team vs relying on your stars, what's the bottom line?" Obviously, I'm a Celtics fan and hate the jerk on the Lakers, think he ruined the game by killing the team concept.

  • @edisjd
    @edisjd Před 4 lety

    "Like this"

  • @alexprs1513
    @alexprs1513 Před 4 lety

    👍👍👍

  • @tomashin2000
    @tomashin2000 Před 4 lety

    Music name?

  • @Loro23
    @Loro23 Před 4 lety

    Lol how’d that Gobert defensive wall look 👀 last night when Giannis dropped 50 🥶🙉🤣🥱🤡

    • @iTpyo
      @iTpyo Před 4 lety

      Gobert didn’t play last game dumbass

  • @wilhelminamonger2030
    @wilhelminamonger2030 Před 4 lety

    Can u break down Nikola Vucevic

  • @Zach-lc6bs
    @Zach-lc6bs Před 3 lety

    and brandon ingram settled in at over 39% from 3

  • @alexprs1513
    @alexprs1513 Před 4 lety

    👍👍