The Division | Solo Player Dark Zone PvP Build/Guide | Patch 1.5

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  • In this video I will be showing you what I believe to be the best Solo Player PvP build in Patch 1.5 and how you should be playing with it in the Dark Zone. Unfortunately when it comes to damage, there aren't that many good options to go with and AlphaBridge with assault rifles will remain to be dominant until some adjustment to the game have been made.
    Welcome to my youtube channel, I mostly cover 'The Division' but I also have a lot of other content for the ones interested! Hope you like what you see and enjoy my content!
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Komentáře • 426

  • @widdz
    @widdz Před 7 lety +63

    that intro made me giggle, wish there was more build diversity in 1.5 tho

    • @Raibad1911
      @Raibad1911 Před 7 lety

      Im actually wishing for some kind of nerf to alpha since thats what everyone uses, me tho i have a 1-shot sniper high end build going on, trying to see what i can do to make it better, but it has base damage of 133k with elevated,prepared,and brutal, i use a mobile cover and booster for increased damage and have a tenatuis(slaughtered that don't know how to spell it) and skulls mc gloves, my headshot damage is 178% and my toughness (in the DZ) is 359k and i use a famas with it

    • @RE30RN
      @RE30RN Před 7 lety

      widdz this is when two great division players are talking...

    • @NakedAvanger
      @NakedAvanger Před 7 lety +2

      1.5 Dark Zone is trash... its so fucking bad
      i cant believe how easily they just fuck up the game after they just revived it

    • @Holdenmagroin75
      @Holdenmagroin75 Před 7 lety

      Big shame that two of the best & most knowledgable players in the DZ wont be in the PvP ETF though, could've really done with your input on this matter guys.

    • @wesleybrown5785
      @wesleybrown5785 Před 7 lety

      widdz i wish there was more build diversity in the game period . There is always a trend that comes and dies

  • @comptin7likedthis671
    @comptin7likedthis671 Před 7 lety

    Best alpha bridge video I've seen to date!!! Thank you for this!

  • @nocta.official
    @nocta.official Před 7 lety

    Because of your QUALITY content, I was able to get back into the Division and actually enjoy my experience. thank you.

  • @claudiocamilucci9189
    @claudiocamilucci9189 Před 7 lety

    thank you for keeping me alive with this build

  • @thewoo1ster
    @thewoo1ster Před 7 lety

    Nice Video! Got a cracking Alphabridge build on the back of this, thanks :)

  • @misterdizzle6972
    @misterdizzle6972 Před 7 lety

    Great video! I've learned a lot watching your videos and I'm going to start working on this build now. I already put together a healer Reclaimer build, but I need to tweak it to get better stats - keep up the good work!

  • @iMac-Pilot
    @iMac-Pilot Před 7 lety

    very good. playing since day one and still learning new things that i didnt know. thx for that!

  • @sacristar
    @sacristar Před 7 lety

    Perfect video. 10 minutes is acceptable time wise. All your choices explained. And tons of nifty little known game mechanics. Love it =)

  • @andy44280
    @andy44280 Před 7 lety

    Fantastic vid Marco, ive been playing since release.......and just picked up some wicked tips on skill uses, great work, keep it up !!!!!

  • @thesir8028
    @thesir8028 Před 7 lety

    Nices setup MS. Will definitely try this gear setup because I always get jump by group with nearly no luck what so ever. Thanks

  • @bakeerjg
    @bakeerjg Před 7 lety

    great video! it helped me refine my solo builds thanks.

  • @alekzsey701
    @alekzsey701 Před 7 lety

    this is amazing, gonna give it a shot since I mostly am a solo pvp'er. subbed!

  • @harrysynnott2379
    @harrysynnott2379 Před 7 lety

    Brilliant. Thanks, Marco.

  • @Walkeraish
    @Walkeraish Před 7 lety

    Thank you for this guide!

  • @levitationq4734
    @levitationq4734 Před 7 lety +7

    Quality not quantity, nice one Marco!

  • @wilfredocolon8971
    @wilfredocolon8971 Před 7 lety +1

    Amazing video thanks for the tips

  • @randyg8010
    @randyg8010 Před 7 lety

    great video brotha very informative thank you

  • @Jesssxox
    @Jesssxox Před 7 lety

    A very clean and understanding video definitely getting a 👍🏻s up 🙂

  • @Royarinn
    @Royarinn Před 7 lety

    Nice, I have a build just like that only completely different, but it's still 4 piece Alpha with refreshed mask and specialized backpack. But now I know how that build is supposed to be so off I go to make some adjustments, thank you very much MarcoStyle for this video.

    • @Royarinn
      @Royarinn Před 7 lety

      313k dps, 466k toughness and 116k electronics vs. MarcoStyles 124k, 490k and 118k. Close enough I would say :-)

  • @patrickabo4510
    @patrickabo4510 Před 7 lety

    Thank you very much marco..you are the man

  • @thegreat3933
    @thegreat3933 Před 7 lety +1

    great vid! I always run solo in the DZ

  • @jordyvanderwolde1242
    @jordyvanderwolde1242 Před 7 lety

    love the fact u still output content, used your video's and builds a lot back in the day, around release.
    just returned to the game and now i am your sup and ill trow u some like's on those video's.
    to be honest u got ahead of the rest of the guys creating content, just because we share the same country. (beside that u explain the why a bit more in detail, keep up the good work).
    tot later

  • @SniperVinc
    @SniperVinc Před 7 lety

    Your videos are great, man! THX! ;)

  • @jonnywoodbeast4306
    @jonnywoodbeast4306 Před 7 lety

    Awesome vid Marco

  • @joshdumont4928
    @joshdumont4928 Před 7 lety +35

    They need to reduce the health of downed agents, it's insane that it takes almost an entire mag to finish them

    • @BiLLYb0ngTHRTN
      @BiLLYb0ngTHRTN Před 7 lety

      Josh Dumont get more DPS lol I can drop and fold dudes in less than a mag

    • @joshdumont4928
      @joshdumont4928 Před 7 lety

      BiLLYb0ngTHRTN / AA-12_Billy how, what are your stats

    • @BiLLYb0ngTHRTN
      @BiLLYb0ngTHRTN Před 7 lety +1

      Josh Dumont All high end build, 335k DPS and 420k toughness. Alpha Bridge, 360k dps, 420k toughness. I think the Alpha melts faster

    • @BiLLYb0ngTHRTN
      @BiLLYb0ngTHRTN Před 7 lety

      Josh Dumont stack enemy armor dmg as well.on mask and kneepads

    • @joshdumont4928
      @joshdumont4928 Před 7 lety

      BiLLYb0ngTHRTN / AA-12_Billy I have the same stats as you

  • @iceberg4736
    @iceberg4736 Před 7 lety

    You had me there at 'no more AlphaBridge'

  • @vagrantsneaker6514
    @vagrantsneaker6514 Před 7 lety

    You.Are.The.Man. Thank you!

  • @MylesJohnstonGamingAndGoPro

    Finally, Thank you!

  • @seanstaaa3338
    @seanstaaa3338 Před 7 lety

    Nice vid helped me out alot

  • @emperorofrome4039
    @emperorofrome4039 Před 7 lety

    amazing build thanks Marco! only thing i have trouble with, actually getting good Alphabridge pieces. im only dropping Holster and kneepads for Alpha. cant seem to get anything else. no chest piece yet :(

  • @TurkOglu1990
    @TurkOglu1990 Před 7 lety

    nice was hier op zoek thx!!

  • @ItsSailcat
    @ItsSailcat Před 7 lety

    Nice vid Marco. I agree completely with this build.
    Despite running myself with Barretts chest + Ferro's mask, since I got them, but that's not something everyone can do.
    If I didn't I'd run this for sure.
    Boostershot with Refreshed and Specialized is super nice.

  • @sevennvd
    @sevennvd Před 7 lety

    Zie je leuter! Great vid again. Keep it up, greetings from Twente.

  • @kariokabrz1845
    @kariokabrz1845 Před 7 lety

    Congratulations, by the tutorial. The best I've seen on CZcams. Could make one of the predator ??

  • @josepholivo6127
    @josepholivo6127 Před 7 lety

    Thank you Marco for reiterating the fact that alpha is op at the moment. And I hope they fix this as soon as possible. But great video. You go in depth every time, which I like. Keep up the good work.

  • @gregoryvinson9299
    @gregoryvinson9299 Před 7 lety

    Great video!

  • @adamomediagroup3986
    @adamomediagroup3986 Před rokem

    I miss this game! I miss watching your videos!

  • @dondwayne
    @dondwayne Před 7 lety

    Amazing vid!!

  • @TheGimGamer
    @TheGimGamer Před 7 lety

    Another dank video Marco

  • @owief2747
    @owief2747 Před 7 lety

    you are a monster man! thanks for sharing! :-)

  • @SylonHD
    @SylonHD Před 7 lety +2

    Loved the video! Are you going to make an updated solo build video after 1.6 drops? Being with all the changes it'll bring and all. I hope so. Again, love the videos!

  • @jean77flip
    @jean77flip Před 7 lety

    Thank you Marco. Will you make an updated Tactician build for 1.5 soon?

  • @onkargoswami5104
    @onkargoswami5104 Před 7 lety

    Amazing Video! You know the difference with you and other million unskilled youtubers? You come up with ideas that are out of the box. Obviously you could have made a barrets chest alpharetard build. But you chose to find something even better, as I am sure some of the people you were fighting and beat had barrets chest.
    Thanks for being MarcostyleNL ;)
    **Also for being down to earth, other recent youtubers with catchy titles and thumbnails can be sincere in a video but end up being toxic in game. You sir are a different breed. Was fun farming the bullet king with you ;) You dropped a crappy alphabridge backpack for me.

  • @elew6000
    @elew6000 Před 7 lety

    Like the outro music

  • @NakedAvanger
    @NakedAvanger Před 7 lety +16

    If they dont bring back the other sets i'll fucking riot

    • @Stino-ajk
      @Stino-ajk Před 7 lety +2

      NakedAvanger go riot kid

    • @Stino-ajk
      @Stino-ajk Před 7 lety +1

      NakedAvanger pretty much, are you a shotgun warrior?

    • @RangerColinLZ
      @RangerColinLZ Před 7 lety

      inb4 Varrock Wildy riots

    • @jchevar
      @jchevar Před 7 lety

      How is bullsheeet not banned yet?...I've seen him hacking on multiple CZcams videos

    • @Alldayanyday1OnThePS4
      @Alldayanyday1OnThePS4 Před 7 lety

      What do you mean? The other sets are actually really good lol no one realizes it though...4 piece lonestar is amazing because of the fact that you don't need to reload at all. 4 piece tactician is the best support build in the game, idk why Marco didn't use tactician for the healer build versus the reclaimer, I kinda don't see reclaimer ever being better than tactician. 3 striker 2 sentry and barret's chest is amazing as well, 3 striker, barret's chest, savage gloves, and ferro's mask is all really nice together..4 piece sentry, decisive gloves, bliss holster with assault shield basically melts enemies so fast.....you gotta realize there are so many really good builds still but everyone is so focused on alphabridge.

  • @albertogomez86
    @albertogomez86 Před 7 lety

    nice job marko i will do that i like it

  • @EatYourFood5
    @EatYourFood5 Před 7 lety

    perfect video!

  • @teckillahh
    @teckillahh Před 7 lety

    Hi maco, I love all your movie about gear set ect, and i wanna see a build about Hunter's Faith if you can do ! Talking about What do you think and what you want to change on this set !

  • @hoyincheng6604
    @hoyincheng6604 Před 7 lety

    Nice video, lesrn more things now, tks

  • @lz3yariel454
    @lz3yariel454 Před 7 lety

    Good video marco

  • @yuhanuncitgez5863
    @yuhanuncitgez5863 Před 7 lety

    Was waiting for this alrdy ;) I'll watch it tonight. Go sleep now Kappa

  • @digitalillustration604
    @digitalillustration604 Před 7 lety +2

    Massive should hire Marco.

  • @CouchCit
    @CouchCit Před 7 lety

    Amazing video, once again Marco. I farmed for almost 2 weeks for Barrett's Vest only to get a crappy roll and find out that it's bugged, so I'm gonna give this a try.

    • @JohnPhillipJunior
      @JohnPhillipJunior Před 7 lety

      Juls Token really?

    • @CouchCit
      @CouchCit Před 7 lety

      Barrett's vest is bugged; many report it doesn't work properly/consistently and there's a known bug with the stats not showing up properly that Massive has acknowledged. They say it works even thought the stats don't show, but many say it doesn't.

    • @JohnPhillipJunior
      @JohnPhillipJunior Před 7 lety

      Ohh ok didn't know

  • @wjthomas23
    @wjthomas23 Před 7 lety

    fantastic

  • @jester0075
    @jester0075 Před 7 lety

    I tried fighting 2 teams of rouges after 2 of my teammates died and even at 1,054,000 toughness they still kill me. Im pretty sure it was because they weren't standing in front of each other and every bullet was hitting me directly. plus i was doing battle with one guy trying to shoot me in the back. Lasted longer than i thought i would. Great build Marco!

  • @Lord02Infamous
    @Lord02Infamous Před 7 lety

    Thanks bro

  • @indowgaruda6206
    @indowgaruda6206 Před 7 lety

    goed bezig jonguh!!

  • @KashouWannabe
    @KashouWannabe Před 7 lety

    I'm relatively new to the game (and to your channel, hi!), and I seem to have a similar mindset when it comes to DZ builds. I am not a rogue player, but I use scrambler just to keep off potential rogues radars. However, I use the support station as being able to "super tank/death tank" groups of NPCs, even in DZ06, has saved me many a time.
    Currently using the Security Link as I'm short on points for the Medical Link. Must admit, I like the running speed for those GTFO moments.
    I am also remaining at 29 for a while, just to get DZ experience (and DZ rank exp), and bumping up my credits can't hurt. I use a SMG and a Bolt Action Marksman, with a Firearms focus, while still boosting armour and health when I can, and recently got a specialised backpack just to help skill power. I'm still tweaking my build, but I am pretty much at the gear cap for level 29, so it is only minor changes here and there. Currently, my stats are F:3137 (111984 smg dps) S:1641 (150929) E:960 (41966). Is that decent for 29?
    I am drawn between between my current support station and booster shot... any thoughts?

  • @NathanBest
    @NathanBest Před 7 lety

    I'm going to have to give this a try tonight. I always get smashed in the dark zone when I go solo 😡

  • @OldManShoutsAtClouds
    @OldManShoutsAtClouds Před 7 lety

    Yes, the stacking all three of insane. I've been considering trying that in combination with the defense ult... you would truly be invisible for at least 10 seconds.

  • @ezpz5382
    @ezpz5382 Před 7 lety +1

    @marcostyle alpha bridge becomes even more powerful when you run it with 7 talents - for me its competent, which i unlock trough the hand shotgun, i activate it trough pulse or booster shot, switch to my m4 and fire with 7 talents

  • @Pav56
    @Pav56 Před 7 lety

    Jeez Marco, just when I thought this was going to be alpha-boring, you do some crazy shit.
    A million toughness...A MILLION?!?!

  • @shepsbarbershop
    @shepsbarbershop Před 7 lety +2

    @marcostyle will the mods on both guns effect the uncomplicated talent?

  • @Prestegist08
    @Prestegist08 Před 7 lety

    can you direct me to an earlier vid showcasing where to get alpha bridge from? trying to get back into division and this looks intense

  • @superlarryman
    @superlarryman Před 7 lety

    I'd like to see you make a build centred around tanking in cover. High-End talents Robust on the Chestpiece and Sturdy on the Holster give you extra armour when in cover. Increased my armour from around 50% to 64%. 350k toughness to 500k+ after the needed 4 seconds for the Sturdy talent paired with Robust. Pairing that with Smart Cover might make you very difficult to take down, but I haven't tried it yet. I'm still trying to think which gear set to pair it with.

  • @Filthyalcoholic
    @Filthyalcoholic Před 7 lety

    omg, ben jouw van de week zoooooo veel tegen gekomen, nu snap ik waarom we je niet konden killen:)

  • @the_hunterghost9231
    @the_hunterghost9231 Před 7 lety

    one little thing to have in mind that heads hoot damage for the mods on the weapon is good if ur are an accurate shooter and always aim for the head But when the target moves a lot and u are hip firing which most players do head shoots mods are a waste... if I was u I would use critical chance on most and ur build would be much better belive me I tried it already... overall great vid like always Marco... like they say in the Netherlands cya later :)

  • @thanosmylonas3859
    @thanosmylonas3859 Před 7 lety

    DUDE YOUR BUILD IS GREAT I KILLED 2 FOUR MEN SQUADS AND 1 MANHUNT ALL ALONE!!!!

  • @zisk7270
    @zisk7270 Před 7 lety +1

    Get responsive or brutal (your choice) in the free slot on a G36 with destructive and unforgiving and then a FAMAS with vicious, deadly and uncomplicated. Use the G36 because it is naturally accurate and with responsive/brutal in the free slot you won't need any main stats rolled to fire arms. You will need to use all fire arms mods though so stacking enemy armour damage is very good. I have 330k DPS, 500k toughness and 100k skill power, 4 Alpha Bridge, Specialised and savage

  • @darrellcornelius9164
    @darrellcornelius9164 Před 7 lety

    Damn Marco you are king at this shit great fucking video dude

  • @mikemike5004
    @mikemike5004 Před 7 lety

    Great video! How did you get 736 health on the chest piece?

  • @jean-christopheh.226
    @jean-christopheh.226 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for sharing something that most gang squad rogues already know but that will make a more even play field. Or it will set PVP in this game back to what it was after 1.3 with tanks invincible players - until 1.6 that is, with Massive new plans for overhauling the PVP experience. Will they succeed? Well I presume one's anticipating judgement is likely to be based on how one assesses 1.4 for PVE... Have you done a video on 1.4 and 1.5 now they have been around for some time? I'd like... to be beg to differ probably.

  • @dino30k47
    @dino30k47 Před 7 lety

    That's what I want that build right there u can solo dz and pve with ease and be helpful for your teammates awesome. 👌

  • @SerCaliber
    @SerCaliber Před 7 lety +1

    Do an updated beginners guide for the people that have been out of the mix for a while. Please

  • @loafismlg2920
    @loafismlg2920 Před 7 lety

    I 1v4'd rogues with this build and it works amazingly well, especially when groups underestimate your toughness and DPS untill you hit the medkit and heal, then you can just turn the tables and turn into a savage. This really is one of the best builds for solo in the dark zone.

  • @HJMXmechuchemen
    @HJMXmechuchemen Před 7 lety

    Now i see math class really help in my life, to many numbers to a shooter game

  • @billybob-zc5jm
    @billybob-zc5jm Před 7 lety

    i love this guys voice

  • @bamablk79
    @bamablk79 Před 7 lety

    Marco can you please do a DFN Shield build if you haven't done one already. Thanks in advance

  • @Nicholasdross
    @Nicholasdross Před 7 lety

    @marcostylenl yeah it's the alpha bridge cookie cutter build but I think you put a good spin on it for folks who don't have Barrett chest. that 30% Health is, in my opinion, kinda like the the specialized book bad in that it's good all the time. Even get a nice boost from signature when it procs. And you taught me something I missed in your other video about critical save and triage. thanks Marco!
    P.S. About the hackers. I watched the white chaos interview video with a hacker should goes on to describe how easy it is and how he's been doing it for ever and massive ither takes weeks or never does anything about it. I'm going to chalk it up to them focusing all there funds and man power on fixing bugs and pushing out content. But I do fear it will get to a point where people don't want to dark zone anymore because of it, then they'll have to put everything on hold to deal with it.
    they should tap WoW's Watchdog.

  • @makosn
    @makosn Před 7 lety

    Marco, is there anywhere specific you use for farming out gear mods?

  • @Nakx95
    @Nakx95 Před 7 lety +1

    I know that alphabridge is good but now that every one is running it I wanted something different so I'm focusing on something else that produce stat effects on players (having 4 pieces pred a ferros oxygen mask and even having intense on your primary) cause for the few times I've 1v1 or 1vMany in the dz I've found it game changing according to my play style ( also I'm a console player )... what do you think could a stat effect focused build for pvp top the Alpha build?

  • @salvadoriparra
    @salvadoriparra Před 7 lety

    nice video

  • @prettyw1se
    @prettyw1se Před 7 lety

    not hopping on the barrett band wagon but i'm curious if you considered it while making this build. i gotta say, this looks like it would be a lot stronger. all that time spent grinding for one and i can't find a use for it. maybe an all high end build?

  • @stephonrucker1839
    @stephonrucker1839 Před 7 lety

    Are you going to finish the weapon guide and do for all weapons

  • @Tubes78
    @Tubes78 Před 7 lety

    I've stacked everything in electronics (full tactician, 342k Base skill) I run barretts chest and relentless or specialised. I run seeker mine and anything the team needs based on the situation. It's pretty strong in DZ, players don't expect the seeker mine to instantly kill them and it's a good counter to the 'up in your face' Alpha bridge agents.

  • @Cu1Ba2No3
    @Cu1Ba2No3 Před 7 lety

    quick question if I do not equip stability nor accuracy mods on the FAMAS but i do on my other primary AR (lvoa or m4) does the uncomplicated talent get affected when using alpha bridge set?

  • @ugandanknuckles2334
    @ugandanknuckles2334 Před 7 lety

    marco i

  • @snakedoctor2054
    @snakedoctor2054 Před 7 lety

    Do you think that this build would also work in a group setting or just when for a solo player?

  • @sharkahh4600
    @sharkahh4600 Před 7 lety

    I watched this video like 5 times so far Bc I keep on forgetting what mods to use and gun mods

  • @BL4KM4GiC1
    @BL4KM4GiC1 Před 7 lety

    Zieke build man

  • @FullMetalProtoss
    @FullMetalProtoss Před 7 lety

    Marco do you have any info on the difference in damage between armor pen vs damage out of cover or flat increases from competent in PvP? Is destructive better than competent? I haven't seen a tier list for talents. So if you can't get these ___ talents then is a 3 piece pred/striker better because the 8% dmg from pred and 10% armor pen from striker. Obviously you'll be squishier without refreshed mask.

  • @Aurushi83
    @Aurushi83 Před 7 lety

    @MarcoStyle, where do I get a hold of any blueprints for Prototype stamina mods? I basically have the same build as you Im just missing that edge on the stamina...

  • @FPSmoose
    @FPSmoose Před 7 lety

    What do you think of Barrett's chest piece?

  • @ethanpollard5429
    @ethanpollard5429 Před 7 lety

    If you have the Barrett's bulletproof vest would you use that?

  • @ModulaGaming
    @ModulaGaming Před 7 lety

    As always very solid build Macro, but somehow PVP in its current state or the way armor works in PvP feels somewhat inconsistent atm. We've been running similar solo builds that yields relatively similar results yet we've encountered individuals that will decimate us in a few hits while taking very little dmg from us despite having a 58% armor penetration over 340k base DPS over 400k toughness with 54% mitigation plus a Barrets chest (extra 10% toughness ) and in most encounters were pretty sure that those buffs that increase resistance werent procked. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

  • @blurdt
    @blurdt Před 7 lety

    I prefer u make a video about how to optimize all the gear types. OR! a different approach to alpha thata build toward a support role. utilizing the skill power talent

  • @marcxgajeton
    @marcxgajeton Před 7 lety +1

    Great vid. What skills/talents would you switch up when using this build in a group, if any?

    • @dee21133
      @dee21133 Před 7 lety

      MarcoStyle do you every run the Barrett chest piece ?

    • @NautiOG
      @NautiOG Před 7 lety

      If using the healer build wouldn't strike back be even better than combat medic?? Since you would be providing more heals essentially. Or does Strike back, triage and critical save only proc solo when using a medkit in the last bar?? Sorry, 1 more question. Wouldn't using a shield build with BS DMR mods be pretty good for solo players also?? I mean the mods offer 20% ADR 100% of the time that you have the shield deployed. Therefore, its like procing On the move and critical save every time you heal yourself in the last bar of health. Ultra tanky with booster shot. 75% ADR just for timing the medkit properly. Yes, your movement is restricted but for console players I believe this is a viable SOLO build. Any thoughts?

  • @bertlog
    @bertlog Před 7 lety

    hey man, i have competent, responsive unforgiving in my first gun (already calibrated) while the second one has vicious deadly destructive . which talent should i remove from the second one? Also is EDR still a meaningful stat for a chest piece? Thanks!

  • @Paul_Brandon1993
    @Paul_Brandon1993 Před 7 lety

    Can you make a fire crest build for the Pyromaniacs?

  • @hawk16-85
    @hawk16-85 Před 7 lety +1

    @MarcoStyle I highly doubt this will get any notice but could you do an LMG build. I have been playing with them a lot but putting something together has been challenge and It would be cool if you found a good build for PVP/PVE