How to build a 52V 10AH lithium battery with Maker Batteries (diybatteries.com)
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- How to building custom lithium batteries: a.co/jcc2OzV
No spot weld and no solder 18650 assembly kits: www.Vruzend.com
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Why not use copper strap instead? Thanks for posting this btw.
copper cost's more, that's the main reason its not used for short connexions and nickel is more than capable for this job but on long runs, connexions copper is a must also don't forget to add a fuse as he did. a fuse is a must!
I'm Interested in replacing my Car Battery with Lithium Ion for my 1981 GTI Rabbit that i use for racing. I know I can buy a Braille Batterie for about $550 but is there any information where I could build my own from recycled Batteries?
(DIY Batteries) Please let me where I can purchase the battery terminal identifier stickers (Positive and negative stickers) you have used in your video. Thanks.
DIY Batteries when you are soldering the white wires, are you connecting them only to the positive ends of each cell series??
FANTASTIC VIDEO mate!!!
You're the number #1 ebike educating dude..... LOVE watching your videos, reading your educational articles, your educational battery build kits... man... you rock!! Well done.. great job as usual =]
With your great information and the information on Maker Batteries I now understand the positioning of the BMS wires, other people haven’t explained this all the way. Thanks for the great video. I bought your book on Li-ion Batteries. Very informative book, not done going through it. Thanks again. MikeJ F
This is Fantastic content! I am waiting on my components, but this is my next step in my build. What you have done here is exactly what I was looking for. Thank You!
Great video. I really like the way you work - very precise and accurate.
Best DIY battery channel… full of details. thank you very much
Thanks for the video. A number of posters have suggested improvements on materials, configuration, etc., which is fine, but the essential thing you've done for me? Make me realize that I don't have to pay MANY hundreds of dollars to replace my bike's 48V, 9AH battery pack--I can actually do it myself, and reduce the biggest operating cost of keeping my eBike on the road. I do tend to agree with the commenter who suggested that you don't have to stack those nickel connecting plates as you do in the video--a single copper connector is likely to be sufficient, but I haven't looked into heat generation in a configuration like this, so won't offer that as an informed opinion. I also agree that heat management is very important when you build a pack from sub-component batteries, and I'm going to study that in greater detail. Thanks!
if you are riding an electrical vehicle keep in mind due to the bumps you want a solid connectivity between the cells
Awesome build! Thanks for the education!
You forgot lots of important things like fume extraction, face mask, hazmat suit, ear protection, a fire extinguisher, blast wall, faraday cage, RCD, lightning arrester, surge protection, a static grounding mat and wriststrap, a hardhat, a hi vis vest, ohh.. and elbow and knee protection in case you fall over. Apart from not covering those hazards - a pretty good tutorial really. thanks! ;)
and colin furze safety tie
Atomik Laser
I've just read your comments and you've made me laugh so much I've just spat my drink over the iPad . Fab sense of humour 👍
Nice useful tips, thanks a lot
great educational video many thanks for making it.
Thank You for the presentation!
Hi Micah; Thank you for your efforts in sharing all this information and training! I own your book - I have re-read parts of it several times, and I've watched many or most of your videos. I'm going to be building / converting my own bike to an e-bike. I'm shooting for a 750 Watt + power mid-mount motor. I'm shooting to having built a 1500 Watt battery - I believe it will be a 52Volt battery. My first attempt will be with my "lesser" capacity batteries so that I will "learn" with those. The batteries I have that are better - I will reserve for my second effort. Right now, I'm at enough batteries to make 3 such (similar cell-count) batteries. Once more, thank you! Josh
Flawless video ever on youtube!
1:40 "I like the nitrile gloves because I feel like they give me the most dexterity and also the make me look like a dentist."
*Smacks gloves*
Sounds like you know how to fill a cavity.
😬 They look like proctologist gloves to me. They always smack their gloves right before they go to sticking all kinds of shinny tools up your hiney hole.
Nice to get cells that accept solder. I got a bunch of cells that has stainless steel end caps,there is no soldering those bad boys! Ended up making a spot welder to weld the links on to make a decent battery pack.
Great Video.… it would be nice if you had links to suppliers of the triple batteries; the nickel strips; non-conductive tape; & foam
EXCELLENT INSTRUCTIONS !!!
Hey, That Kapton tape, I use it as a Purge Tape at work when i weld Stainless or Chrome pipe, It allows me to look inside of the pipe and se the root of the weld. This tape has many applications
THANK YOU... thumb uped.... I was looking exactly these to buy... thanks.. great video.. expert kingd of..
Very useful, many thanks!!!
you could use minus side on one side and plus side on another and then just zigzag the + and - contacts - simpler
hey Mikey good intro and good setup got me interested in 3 second
Design is sound for the most part. You really need to up your soldering game and also need to solder the nickel strips before you weld the nickel. It’s the little things that make a good idea great
much needed!!
I just purchased your book. I've watched a few, yours is by far the most professional. Quick question on fuses between the packs. I see some add fuses and some do not, can you explain why you don't?
The safety warnings are no joke.
A short circuit in the power leads through a wedding ring can be disastrous. There's a chance they'll weld themselves to your ring making them very tough to disconnect, the ring heating up will cook itself stuck onto your finger. Such an injury could mean loosing your hand or even kill you. And that's without the battery exploding or catching fire from being shorted.
Don't screw around with angry pixies unless you know what you're doing. Then it's actually remarkable safe. Safer than playing with internal combustion engines. You just need to know what bites.
And the small rubber you used to close the end of the wire in the last part of this video.. Thanks again
Heat Shrink ?
Nice job
Excellent craftsmanship here! Please, did you spot weld the plates on these triad cells or did they come that way? If you did the spot welding yourself, what equipment would you need to purchase to do this yourself?
Wow, nice video
thank you
thanks for sharing! keep up the hard work joined
nice
Great video ... I've found super glue much better than hot glue ... cheaper , much stronger fix , won't soften if battery gets hot, less messy , less weight .. Just tie the cells together firmly and apply superglue it gets in by capillary action
Cooooooooooool !!!!! Yes, there is this dentist look with the glove :)
Hi from Réunion Island ! You rock ! All the way. Thanks for this soooo handy video. Where could I get these materials so as to get mine done ?
excelent...
I love it ♥️
Very good
Awesome
Love it. Suggest open hardware version. And help to mount Renault Zoe batteries, to increase range (ie from 22kWh to 44 kWh).
yes but little bit doubt , any i learned alot
thankx
Dear, congratulation for the video. Could you post herre please where you buy the BMS to put 14 batteries in series? Thanks
It's a nice project, my only problem is the fixability in case of problem.
Thanks
Mike I really like that kit .how much does that kit cost thanks for your good work
back with the channel
could yo give me recomendation best gloves when build battery pack? or nitrile glove is the best for that condition?
Great video have you got any diagrams for 13 serial x 9 parallel
I might want to put together some batteries for my camper, e bike and tools. Air conditioner is my biggest hurdle. I want this all to be done by solar and awesome batteries. Any advice would help in a major way. Thank you!
Hi thanks for all great videos cen you help me how to charger Bicycle battery 36v 10Ah with power bank end Which power bank cen i use
for a big pack that can take high drain? what would be the recommended thickness of nickel buss plate?
Can you make a video on how to add another (16) 38120 LifePO4 cells to an existing battery pack to increase the Amp hours. ex: 48v 10ah to 48v 20ah. Can this be done in a triangle formation? also how to rewire the BMS for the additional batteries. Thanks for the great videos.
Superb
Hello Micah, thanks for all the instructional videos and I go through them all.
Some time back I wrote to you about Battery terminal identification ( Positive/Negative) stickers. Your response was that I could print them etc etc.
Now in this video, I see the stickers, that you are using to identify the terminals.
Would you be able to tell me, from where I can buy these stickers? I checked your book, DIY LITHIUM BATTERIES again, but couldn’t get any detail.
Please let me know, from where I can buy the Positive/Negative stickers. Thanks in advance.
How many amps is this setup?What do I do different if I want to build a 36v 20A battery pack?Any info is helpful as the "store bought" ones are VERY expensive as opposed to buying components.Thank You!
just WOW
I want to rebuild a couple of Segway lithium batteries. They use 18650 3.2v ~6Ah....but I see 18650 3.2v cells rated at 10Ah. The Segway packs incorporate a bms. Could I safely use the 10Ah cells and hopefully increase the range of the device? Other battery suggestions? If 10s would overwhelm the bms, would a smaller bump in Ah work...say up to 7 or 8?
Maybe over insulate tiny red and black wires in case the covering were to melt off, if that did happen at least they wouldn't be close enough to arc.
Great video...but why not solder the connections using some 10 awg wire between the cells? Wouldn't that have the same current carrying capability?
is there any way to reduce the heat when the battery is running in high current equipment?
How do you calculate charging voltage, charging time and charging amps for that li ion batteries?
i like them i would not mind trying those
So this idea can be used to power a multi rotor UAV, right? Not 52V but something around 6S 22.2V? High Capacity? If you're using this for a eBike surely it would power an Multirotor! Right?
What solder are you using hollow flux or solid with your own flux. Thanks
if i wanted to build a 52 volt battery 20 AH, what would be the difference?
Use your series connections for the Voltage, and your Parallel connections, for your current ( Amps). How you lay these out is really up to you.
Awesome vid, how nuch distance roughly from that 10ah battery 30km?
The packing was so satisfying.....
And ain't it always better t spot weld rather than soldering?
Absolutely, it's kind of hard to watch him solder so many times like that. The heat can really screw up your batteries. The problem is that spot welders aren't cheap and fairly niche in their functions. So I don't blame him but I feel like he should mention that rather than showing the non-preferred way.
I agree with you that lead free solder is trash. But I highly suggest checking out the silver bearing leaded solder. Lead has a conductivity rating of 7%, tin is 15%, and silver is 105%. So just that little 2% content actually improves conductivity significantly
OK, I have ordered the batteries and the Maker kit. I will install the battery to a Zappy 3-wheel scooter, that has lead batteries (3x12V) installe. I do have a litiuim-ion charger (36V/42V) already. Do I HAVE to install the BMS?I'd rather not n order one of those also :)
what if you were to add a terminal stud in the middle of each triangle to simplify connections?
Dentist? No. Proctologist? Definitely! Lol great video!
hat kind of BMS is that?
I have a question please. If I have a battery, 12 v16A Lithium. Three cells. At what voltage should the charger cut the current? 12.6? or more? Thank you
Looks like this website is abandoned. a shame. Nice idea!
How you are saying 10ah, how much should have each battery totally for 40ah, I wud like to do a battery pack which contains 48v40ah for long run, per charge min 50km
so i have a 14s24p Li ion battery with a standard 5A charger and if my BMS supports for example 30A Chargepower i can use a charger with 30A safely at home?
samsung 25R cell btw
Hi, can you tell me what would be a good pattern to build 60v 12Ah battery pack with VRUZEND Kit (solder-less)? Or, if you even make a quick video on it, that would be even better! I want to buy VRUZEND Kit, but I don't know what pattern to use, and what mAh for 18650 battery to use? Thank you so much! I should have studied electrical engineering instead of civil eng! :))))
Did u ever gety any response
@@matthewsmithers9732 nope
divide watts of your wheel by voltage and add about 20 - 50% for sure and you'll get amps that you need
for 1000w 60v wheel you'll need a battery that can handle more than 17amps plus extra for sure and discharge drop, about 21 - 25amps
60 volts / 3.7 volt = 16 - 17 cells in a row
so you need 17 12000mAh cells that can provide 25amps continuously to build your battery with one row (17s1p or 17 in series 1 parallel)
but there's no such high capacity high drain cells on the market so you need more rows in parallel to increase amps
17s4p pack of 3000mAh 7amp discharge cells is the most plausible variant
17s4p of Panasonic NCR18650B youll get a 13.6Ah 19.2A battery , with Samsung ICR18650-32A 12.8Ah 25A , Sanyo BL 13.4Ah 28A
There have been numerous suggestions to use copper strips, but could copper wire be used as “jumpers”?
If so then solid core copper may be cheaper if it can be repurposed from old household salvage. Given that the battery pack shouldn’t be flexing, solid core should be safe and give good conductivity.
Nice Video Sir, may i ask where you purchase the BMS and the insulating paper? thanks!
Great instructional video - Thanks :)
Can I please ask you what temperature you would recommend for a temp controlled soldering iron ??
Also what wattage soldering iron do you recommend ?
To be honest, my soldering iron has a dial and not a digital display. From the dial, it looks like it's about 220 celsius. 60W or so should be enough. Just don't get the cheapest one on the shelf.
Champion -> Thanks.
Hi Mikey, How do you switch the battery off if you are not controlling the discharge circuit?
What type of bms??
Where did you find those batteries with 3 batteries already connected together?
In his book he explains that soldering battery may increase temperature and damage them.
Yeh bout rite bro and he soldering them 😂 I did same idea with mine tho but I made more powerful solder spot welder the solder goes under the nichrome ribbon and press down on it to melt solder and hold till cold works great when ya got a crap iron lol
He using the hot Chineseium iron that can melt everything lmfao
Hi the answer is simple: DIY
0.2mm x 50mm 99.96% Pure Nickel Plate Strap Strip Sheets pure nickel for Battery electrode Spot Welding Machine 18650 nickel (aliexpress)
What is that thing you use like soldering without lead, to attach a nickel to the end of the battery? THANKS
Spot Welder ?
Great
Hey, I was wondering if anybody could give some advice, I may potentially need to build a battery to replace the one in a Seabob F7, the current battery states, 2.1 KW/h, 56v, 40ah.. would this be possible to make from 18650 cells and would I be able to use the original BMS from the old battery pack with the new 18650 cells once they’re wired together? The old batteries were accumulator battery’s, I’m unsure what this means or if it matters? Also apparently the previous battery was 14 lithium cells, does this matter? Thanks :)
From past experience, the foam material is a big mistake! Any material that can hold moisture or liquid that comes into direct contact with battery contacts is asking for trouble. Moisture in the foam will short out a cell, and you have a fire bomb waiting to go off. Excess moisture in the battery banks is what caused the battery fires on the Boeing 787 aircraft.
Water + lithium = EXTREME heat and fire. Good point!
To avoid heating up the batteries you could solder each cell with just 1 strip, then add another to all the cells and so on.
good tip
How do you call this a no solder kit when 6:50 seconds in your showing how to solder the cells together?
Ah you idiot. That is a fucking link for kits. Not about the video...
I'll bet that 10 gage bare copper wire would be a lot cheaper than the nickel strips. AND, you only need one piece to handle 30 amps easily. Also, you'd stress the cells MUCH less than all that soldering to add 4 strips.
Frenchcreekvalley .frenchcreekvalley lol I was wondering why he used a nickel strip instead of a wire...
coloca os nomes da peças e bms?
What temperature do you set your iron to? I usually have mine around 830 F
That is real hot your iron prob is not that good if have to use that temp
Thanks for the video. The labeling the cells with polarity decal /stickers is the ONLY thing that I don’t have. Please let me know, from where you bought the stickers, so I could buy from them. The stickers, for me, plays a major role in identifying the polarity, because I made serious mistake twice before. Therefore, I request you ( I requested several times) again to, please let me know, from where you purchased the polarity stickers. Thanks in advance.
Thank you for your videos.Can you help me how many cells must be
used for out put 25.5v , 6AH and 25.5V , 8AH. I am from japan, I
bought Bridgestone ebike , but the all battery packs cannot charge
by protection lamps.I think as you teach , electricity blocked by BMS.
I also want to know there is BMS Error or not.Thank you and waiting
for your helps willingly .😲
for 25,5V 6AH you need 3p6s (2000mAh batteries) - 18kom 18650, for 25,5V 8AH you need 4p6s (2000mAh batteries) - 24kom 18650...
mkmorfius Thank you so much, I need to open soon.👍
How do you charge a 52V battery tho? Most Balance charger tho even go that high.
Hi may i know i same pattern of cell arrangement achieve 60v 40 amps? N wat type of bms should be used?
Can your vruzen be purchased from Amazon? I want to buy it but only have a store credit there
I accidentally shorted two LG HG2's.. in series... Burned some fairly heavy battery contacts in half almost immediately. Batteries didn't even get warm. Still work to this day.