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Metallica Lars Ulrich testifies to Senate Judiciary Committee July 11, 2000 - FULL OPENING STATEMENT
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July 11, 2000,
Future of Digital Music
Witnesses testified about new technologies for the dissemination of copyrighted music online.
FULL HEARING: www.c-span.org...
Prepared Statement of Lars Ulrich (partial -- trimmed for CZcams length restrictions)
Mr. Chairman, Senator Leahy, Members of the Committee, my name is
Lars Ulrich. I was born in Denmark. In 1980, as a teenager, my parents
and I came to America. I started a band named Metallica in 1981 with my
best friend James Hetfield. By 1983 we had released our first record,
and by 1985 we were no longer living below the poverty line. Since
then, we've been very fortunate to achieve a great level of success in
the music business throughout the world. It's the classic American
dream come true. I'm very honored to be here in this country, and to
appear in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee today.
Earlier this year, while completing work on a song for the movie
Mission Impossible-2, we were startled to hear reports that a work-in-
progress version was already being played on some U.S. radio stations.
We traced the source of this leak to a corporation called Napster.
Additionally, we learned that all of our previously recorded
copyrighted songs were, via Napster, available for anyone around the
world to download from the Internet in a digital format known as MP3.
As you are probably aware, we became the first artists to sue Napster,
and have been quite vocal about it as well. That's undoubtedly why you
invited me to this hearing.
We have many issues with Napster. First and foremost: Napster
hijacked our music without asking. They never sought our permission--
our catalog of music simply became available as free downloads on the
Napster system.
I don't have a problem with any artist voluntarily distributing his
or her songs through any means the artist elects--at no cost to the
consumer, if that's what the artist wants. But just like a carpenter
who crafts a table gets to decide whether to keep it, sell it or give
it away, shouldn't we have the same options? My band authored the music
which is Napster's lifeblood. We should decide what happens to it, not
Napster--a company with no rights in our recordings, which never
invested a penny in Metallica's music or had anything to do with its
creation. The choice has been taken away from us.
What about the users of Napster, the music consumers? It's like
each of them won one of those contests where you get turned loose in a
store for five minutes and get to keep everything you can load into
your shopping cart. With Napster, though, there's no time limit and
everyone's a winner--except the artist. Every song by every artist is
available for download at no cost and, of course, with no payment to
the artist, the songwriter or the copyright holder.
If you're not fortunate enough to own a computer, there's only one
way to assemble a music collection the equivalent of a Napster user's:
theft. Walk into a record store, grab what you want and walk out. The
difference is that the familiar phrase a computer user hears, ``File's
done,'' is replaced by another familiar phrase--'' ``You're under
arrest.''
Since what I do is make music, let's talk about the recording
artist for a moment. When Metallica makes an album we spend many months
and many hundreds of thousands of our own dollars writing and
recording. We also contribute our inspiration and perspiration. It's
what we do for a living. Even though we're passionate about it, it's
our job.
We typically employ a record producer, recording engineers,
programmers, assistants and, occasionally, other musicians. We rent
time for months at recording studios which are owned by small
businessmen who have risked their own capital to buy, maintain and
constantly upgrade very expensive equipment and facilities. Our record
releases are supported by hundreds of record company employees and
provide programming for numerous radio and television stations. Add it
all up and you have an industry with many jobs--a very few glamorous
ones like ours--and a greater number of demanding ones covering all
levels of the pay scale for wages which support families and contribute
to our economy.
Remember too, that my band, Metallica, is fortunate enough to make
a great living from what it does. Most artists are barely earning a
decent wage and need every source of revenue available to scrape by.
Also keep in mind that the primary source of income for most
songwriters is from the sale of records. Every time a Napster
enthusiast downloads a song, it takes money from the pockets of all
these members of the creative community.
The day Lars sounded an alarm that an entire industry was about to be fucking decimated.
The music business has never been the same
How in the world do you see it this way? Decimated? What?
Jesus calm down nigga its not that deep
industry that has exploited and monopolized artists for decades and even to this day, is that the industry you're talking about? Vampiric billionaire oligarchs.
@@amonynous9041 what about the artists is it ok to steal from anyone under the cover ohh they are rich so it’s on to Rob them
@@AntecGreeno83 If somebody's rich it's more likely they already robbed you, you ignorant fool. You can't have the rich without the poor and vice versa, how don't you see that?
Every modern artist and streaming platform should be thanking Lars forever.
He helped them earn millions, and become rich like him, wow what a hero lol
No
You can still pirate music to this day , I’d say even more easier than back then so no you’re wrong .
@@tydiedyung3997and they get shut down and creators sued for millions so yea fuc%ing thieves
Thanking them for what? If Lars really had his way, you’d still be paying 10 dollars for each individual album you listen to and there’d be NO such thing as stuff like CZcams poops or review channels
Remember when the nostalgia critic had to re-enact every movie scene he reviewed like the Batman vs Superman episode? Imagine that but he wasn’t even allowed to use their logos on the costumes, that’s what every media review channel would have to become, or just someone’s brainless opinion about it without any visual representation on the screen
I swear one of these days I am gonna make LARS WAS RIGHT t shirts and take them on tour.
I would buy one
@@enchantress7 I agree the same here even Metallica should sell these shirts on the merchandise section of their website
Please do. It'll make it easier to point you out when I'm laughing at you.
I was literally just thinking this
Lars was right about everything I support him 100%
Lars now literally says he was wrong here.
he is singlehandedly responsible for the amount of copyright abuse we have today
@@SicTr4nsitLink source? I recall he was only wrong in how he approached it but ultimately stood by what he did.
@@WrangleMcDangleOver-exaggerating here. The whole Copyright abuse happened when the DMCA was first enacted (2 years before Lar’ Lawsuit). But it’s a 2-way street, Without it, our favourite artist wouldn’t be able to make a dime on their work and be able to distribute it as they please, but of course there will be those who use it for stupid reasons too, same with anything. Stop spouting nonsense.
@@simplebutnotsolongname6642you sound like an undercover cop
I was so pissed off at Lars in ~'98 or whenever that was, but I was also 20 years old. All my friends were pissed, but I'm pretty sure we're all on the same page now: he was right.
I don't know if he wrote this speech, but if so, really well done and super effective
Lars now openly admits he was wrong here.
@@SicTr4nsit great, now I disagree with him again, lol
@@drmojo5439 😂
He made *some* decent points, but the bulk of it was just completely uninformed. Like the shoplifting analogy. A good speech didn't make him right, but thankfully he sees that now. A lot more people have access to music bc of Napster and it undoubtedly grew their fanbase and popularity.
@@SicTr4nsit k
@@drmojo5439 sucks 2 be wrong and stupid, huh?
People should understand that artists have every right to own what they made, and make copies of their work to put out for people who would love to own a copy. How would you feel if you make a cartoon character, and some corporate head takes your work and having other companies take your character without your approval? My point exactly.
Exactly, this should be such basic common sense...! Like seriously, WTF is wrong with people? Apparently we deliberately choose to be stupid and ignorant in our modern world. (and back then also) We lack the ability to be honest with ourselves, and let this kind of shit slide by because it's more convenient for us. To this day I still buy CD's and then convert them digitally for convenience. And back in the day I bought cassettes. I was a 90's kid and LP's were pretty much dead by then.
For me personally, I prefer to own an actual physical copy of my albums because it has all the liner notes, album cover and artwork etc. I just don't get a complete sense of ownership from a digital copy. And also if it gives the artist more money when you buy a physical copy, I'm all for that! For all the effort that goes into their work they absolutely deserve it.
Except LARS is the corporate head here, how do you not see that!?
@@Pangloss6413 care to elaborate?
I've met Lars several times in Australia. He's a gentleman. Love him like a brother!
Very intelligent as well the 1 thing he said which so many will overlook is its not just Metallica/artists that suffer its everyone else attached/employed by the music industry, its not just the artists your hurting and frankly if your not willing to pay $2 for a song or $20 for an album your not a true fan.
@@Craig-ky5zy which is bullshit. They did a study about how much money Metallica makes over the course of a record sales and its fractions of a penny to the sum of 10,000 dollars TOTAL. Napster helped so many smaller artists get noticed that weren't getting airtime on local radio. And actually the exact opposite of what you said happened. Album sales actually increased. People who downloaded a song went out of their way to go and purchase a physical copy of the entire album.
Most artists don't make money from album sales. They make money from Concerts, Merchandise, Media Appearances, and licensing.
Lars essentially set the music industry back 10 years. Not just the music industry. Because of his actions, he forced every digital media company to review their rules and regulations when it comes to copyright. That's why we have video games with DRM now, and why copyright laws are so strict to the point where people who were caught downloading media can get sent to prison for ridiculous reasons.
@@ivenstorm"album sales actually interested" - citations please.
@@michaelallen1154 you can look it up yourself. The short story of it all is that if people liked music they downloaded, they were more willing to buy the album at a record store. I myself bought 2 cds because of Napster.
You love him... As if he were your blood brother. You spent probably 2 min with the guy..and he's your brother. Like you would jump in front of a bullet for this man. See how autistic that sounds? You don't love him like a brother...he doesn't know you lmao
2:57 Kirk is like yeah! Lars! kill ‘em all
Lars knew it all along
I love that Kirk was there!
Imagine if Cliff was there he would get that hammer and break everything ❤
😂😂😂
😂😂😂That would be so crazy and insane
Lars is 100% correct. He was very brave and very intelligent. I appreciate outspoken people who fight for what's right even if its not a popular opinion. All the hate he gets for this is completely unwarranted.
He was moaning about a tiny fraction of money; these guys are loaded, what did they spend the money on? Drugs, drinks materialistic items.
No sympathy, he also lied that he was poor before metallica made it, also diminished Dave Mustaines contribution to the early Metallica tracks and didn't pay him, while kicking him out and selling his music.
I like the music, but separating the art from the artist hear. The other guys of the band seem cool; but Lars gets under my skin
@@KyloThomas304 it's his music! He has a right to say what gets put out to the public and when.
@@KyloThomas304 p.s. Kirk was sitting right behind him in this video. They all supported him.
@@enchantress7 unsure, Kirk looks like he doesn't want to be there lol. Mostly Lars was more about the stealing of music, the other members I feel had to go along with it cause of legal reasons with Lars.
They have been open about it nowdays, and said they went at it the wrong way; Lars has literally said that they themselves used to record tapes of music and trade back in the day
@@KyloThomas304 I'm well aware of Lars recent comments about Napster. I am mostly responding to you saying they are loaded and probably spent their money on drugs regardless of any of that is they do have a right to control their music and how and when it is distributed to the public.
Lars voice is pure ASMR.
Music is free through CZcams now.
no it’s not lol they get some type of money
@@tootsispeachyuse adblock or 3rd party youtube streaming app
Jesus Christ Man Lars is not even sitting on a drum thrown using drum sticks to play on a drum set and he's killing it I freaking love Lars Ulrich. When was the last time any artists fought for something that they believe in and hell when was theta last time any artist went to congress. Oh and uh do you see where it says The Great American Story of Jewish prays on the bottom Im not buying the new book screw that I was only watching this video because I support Lars Ulrich and let me tell you he should have won a award for that performance to be very honest
He was right boys
Only if you live under a shit economic system that exploits your labour and are forced to be the oppressor in order to avoid being oppressed to begin with!
That took balls to do what Lars and Metallica did back in the day. They literally saved the music industry.
I would also be ready to do anything to get a gold plated shark tank bar immediately
No they didn't. In fact, the exact opposite happened. Napster, in general, allowed smaller artists who weren't getting airtime a chance to get their music out in the open. People who downloaded a single song went on to purchase full albums from record stores. What this did was set the entire digital industry back 20 years.
Companies were forced to review their copyright laws, which is why we have DRM and people going to jail over downloading a single album, or getting sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Over stuff that isn't even available in stores anymore.
@@ivenstorm would you say that music industry at the time was very monopolized as in it was impossible to grow if you werent part of a large label?
@@user-co1gi7yd2r Lets put it this way. You know how Justin Bieber got discovered by Scooter Braun? A lot of smaller artists/bands weren't so lucky. Napster provided a way for those smaller artists to get noticed on a much bigger scale.
So instead of singing to an audience of a couple hundred in the middle of a small town in Idaho, they had an opportunity to market themselves to potentially millions of people.
Ergo, at least a 1000 percent bigger scale, giving them a better chance at being noticed.
As for your question, yes, it was much harder to grow. Because at the time CZcams wasn't around to distribute music. I-Tunes was in its infancy and you had to pay to get on I-Tunes from what I remember. So Napster was free for everyone. So unless you were discovered or were lucky enough to send your demo tape into the right label, your out of luck. It isn't like today where you have countless ways to get your name out there.
they didn't save anything, people just moved from napster to limewire and torrents
what "saved" the music industry was the industry realizing allowing people to listen to music conveniently for free with ads or for a fee was the only way forward
as Gabe Newell said piracy is a result of the convenience, if you make your service more convenient than piracy people will pay for it
3:30 leads me to fully believe that they were 100% looking out for the best interest of other artists. It’s a shame what kind of backlash they got.
Lars was absolutely right .
He was right, but he's lying about how. He was the only member who cared they weren't making money from napster. He later changed the story so he would look less scummy
He was very fortunate to make so much money off of his music, most musicians would settle for reaching a large audience, before even thinking about making eve a modest living, not good enough for him that he made millions, he throws a hissyfit the second the prospect of having slightly fewer luxuries is a remote possiility! "SCREW the fans!"
He was speaking for ALL artists. Listen to what he said before you comment. Try being a young independent artist nowadays. You won't make shit on Spotify or any other streaming service. He called it a couple decades ago. Deal with it.
Lars sure as hell was a good businessman, he knew exactly what was happening and tried to stop it in advance. Now look at where we're at
I would like to apologize to Lars for all the hate. I, as well as all my friends, hated you for keeping us from our stolen music. You were so right brother. I'm sorry.
it’s not stolen
@@Randive Napster was stolen music, grow up.
Are you seriously willing to pay 10 dollars or more for every album you buy again?
@@Pangloss6413 I don't buy new albums, and I don't see us going back to that either way. Don't be an extremist, it was stealing. If you're OK with it and want to justify it by making up nonsense examples, then that's on you big fella.
That was hard to watch because I've never liked Lars, but he was right, and whether you want to believe or not, he understood the future of downloaded content. Fuck
This should make you not like Lars more.
Not to sound like a geezer, but music streaming services are the new Napster. The difference is that streaming services aren’t free, and they have obtained some form of consent to distribute the material. We can now legally listen to whatever we want, anywhere, at any moment for a small monthly fee. Lars said it himself: “The primary source of income for most songwriters is from the sale of records”. 22 years later we can listen to 30 consecutive days of anything for $8. Artists don’t sell records anymore. How do they make revenue now?
This is why ticket prices are so high. Lars warned us.
It's still a big deal, but not everyone can get to it. Even before, in the good old days, not everyone could make a living from music. Ask Anvil.
“We can listen to anything we want to from any time in history at any time of the day or night for free! THE HORROR!”
It just blows my mind how people focus on Lars' financial standing at the time in which he chose to fight for musicians and other artists who had nothing. We should hope that someone with that much money fights for those who don't have any. Consumers don't download free music because they're broke. They do it simply because the option is available. Sure, they might buy the whole album, but Lars' point was about creative control. If I make something, anything, I should have the right to choose what I do with it because I am the creator. This clearly had nothing to do with money per se, although some people made that argument much louder than it needed to be. It was about control of artistic creation.
Lars was fighting for his own money.
@@123612100thief be pissed
“We should hope someone with that much money fights for those who don’t have any”
How is a full grown adult this naïve?
They were called “robber barons” for a reason
The common argument for proponents of Napster is that it allows people to discover music they otherwise wouldn't. But the problem with that is, well who hasn't heard of Metallica? Who doesn't have any friend in social circles who couldn't share a Metallica song with you? Who doesn't have radio that would've been playing the Black album repeatedly in the 90s? People weren't using Napster to "discover" Metallica, but they certainly were using it to download their music. Lars admits the monetary loss to him is pocket change, thats not why he is here - he is here for artists to have control of their music, and to protect that right for the smaller artists who didn't want to risk standing up and facing the backlash.
This argument relies on the assumption that people are noble and want to hear an album before they buy to make sure its not a bad album. Although you could make an argument that half the fun with an album is discovering the tracks other than radio singles. But that this person then has the moral decency to buy the album if they decide they liked it, and that they will comply with this and not fall to the temptation of downloading an entire discography for free.
Maybe a struggling artist does want as much exposure as possible and was happy for Napster to provide that. Maybe, and as Lars says, thats not an issue. But another argument proposed is that "well artists make so little from studio recordings, the real money is in live work". Which is fine for Metallica, who can sell out arenas and employ a whole road crew to make the process as streamlined as possible. Part of getting venues is selling your artistery to promote to allow you to get a venue. How can you do that when you can't point to any music sales? Napster downloads? Well they are free, anybody can download them because they can and not care, who knows where they are based either. So the artist has to pay out of pocket to ensure they can put on a live show? With what source of money - you've denied them revenue.
So they put on a live show and try to recover costs (as well as opportunity costs they gave up if they worked a normal job) through ticket sales and merch, which are then $200, and you complain about the price! How are these artists meant to make a living when the consumer wants everything for next to free of charge? Do you really think your average artist, even a great talent, can just afford to travel the world on month long tours out of pocket? That used to be paid for by selling their music. So this struggling artist might get some promotion through Napster, but still can't do anything with it to make money from their talents.
Then you have guys like Weird Al, who suffered reputational damage by having any song parody be attributed to him, even the most vile, vulgar and offensive material, using his name to get it more attention.
This sounds awesome!
This is why I love the essence of black metal and knowing that money creates greed, no matter if you're respected....
Lars Was & Is Right !!!
Every one who is hating on Lars isn’t a musician. Making it as a musician is like making it to the nfl, almost impossible. Lars truly is fighting for All musicians, not just him self it’s genuinely true. And sadly musicians have basically no change of making it unless you make music for a corporation. Bands that start out in the garage aren’t even something that’s possible these days.
Lol chut up
Lars isn't a musician, he's a business man. Also, who gives a fuck about making it. If you're into making music it shouldn't matter if you make money or not.
I'm a musician and I think lars is a nepo baby dickhead who can't play the drums.
Making to the NFL is much, MUCH easier than making as a musician.
@@LucasPenidobullshit
Lars was right….and so was Prince.
Lars is greedy.
@@123612100 I don't really see it that way. To me, it's about permission. They probably would have gone for it if napster asked. And yeah, agreed to cut them in on the profits. After all, they wrote the songs. And they can't tour forever (the great old ones are tired LOL) CZcams iTunes and Spotify aren't being sued for no reason.
@@123612100 stay mad thief
How rock n' roll.
Bang on.
Yeah but we would tape trade back in the day as did Lars never payed the bands a cent
"The tech gurus say adapt..."
Nothing has changed. AI bros are saying the same thing to artists today.
We'll have another hearing when AI starts making its own "Metallica" music
It's true, all the old dinosaurs need to adapt or perish.
@@robertraymond9107 Hopefully. Fuck AI garbage.
AI destroyed my dreams of being a writer way sooner than any copyright pirate could or would
Fucking spot on. Look what happened 🤷♂️
Now we can listen to any music we want for free! THE HORROR!!!
lars be like "napster now allows listeners to see how shitty our new album is without having to pay for it"
Lars was always 100% right
Money good, napster bad!!
He was born in Denmark in 1980 as a teenager? In 1981 they started Metallica? Thatd be right.
i was born in denmark. in 1980, as a teenager, my parents and i came to america. i started a band named metallica in 1981 with my best friend james hetfield.
that’s how it splits up into sentences. his pace and enunciation is a little unclear at times because english isn’t his first language
He’s not a monster, he’s just ahead of the curve.
Is it Roger McGuinn who starts talking after Lars at the end? Sounds a bit like him.
They were 100% right. Amazing to see how nervous Lars was reading his testimony though. This was a pivotal moment for him.
Nervous? Do you have autism, he clearly was confident. I was impressed by how assured he sounded
If I didnt pirate music I can think of several albums and EPs that will be lost media at this point. I lost a mexican posthardcore band Jezer EP name " De norte al sur mejor el sur" due to my HDD dying and yeara earlier the download link from megaupload was deleted due to the website's dead. You cant not find that EP anywhere in the web now and I doubt anyone still holds a cd copy. The copyright laws killed that EP maybe forever
@Bon's Scott I doubt they have even one social media page where you can actually get in contact with them. Look for their name and the ep name like I put in my comment and you will get only one related result which is a Mexican christian metal blogspot where you used to be able to download it.The mediashare link doesn't work anymore and their myspace is dead with one single song that is unplayable. Only thing I have left to hear them is this official music video clip of my fav song of the EP someone uploaded to their personal channel : czcams.com/video/IEoJR4QuSM4/video.html
Right or wrong, Metallica's audience shrank drastically after this stunt.
nothing is free. there has been a cost to all of this "free" content. if you don't know what that cost is, figure it out.
You don’t think that’s something we should fix in our lives at all? You don’t think some things in life maybe are too important to have a dollar tag on them?
@@Pangloss6413 figure it out.
Lars took so much heat for taking on Napster but he wasn't wrong.
He was wrong. He took on Napster and lost because when Napster went, 10 other programs took its place. He found the names of its USERS, regardless of whether or not they used Limewire for piracy.
If he really cared about the little guys, he would not have tried to ruin the lives of the little guys.
yeah….by the way I think Dave Mustaine fucked up the snare on St.Anger so he can ruin the record:)
lmao
Metal AF
I would still pay 5 times of what is the spotify subscription 2023. Music is cheap today but that doesn't mean it should stay that way. An album shouldn't cost a tenth of my wage (yep it was the price in 2001). But it should not be as cheap as it is today.
Go ask a video gamer how they feel about paying 70 dollars for one of their games and come back to me on that
@@Pangloss6413 As a gamer I can say with confidence there are great deals similar to Spotify, namely gamepass and despite how popular it is they too struggle and don't add much to the industry. I think subscription based services are great. Are there too many of them? Yes. Are some of them too expensive? Yes. Are some of them too cheap? Yes - and these prices will eventually lead to something the consumers of the very product may not want.
Back in the day i thought Lars was being pathetic. You earned milions and milions with selling records, rightfully so because it's great music! And then you miss out on maybe a 100.000 dollars because some guys are downloading instead of buying. So what? It's not like you'll never sell any music again. Personally i'll admit that at first i did download some Metallica songs via Napster, when i liked it i bought the album. So in the end Metallica got their money. Disclaimer: When i started to get into Metallica i was 11 years old. How was i ever going to get the money to buy them all? When i had the money i did.
That said, in the end obviously Lars was right to do something about this.
Good speech from Lars, but his shoplifting analogy is false.
Downloading from Napster those days (or torrenting these days) it's not like stealing a cassette, but like copying from a cassette, thing that even 'tallica guys did in their youths, as they said many times in interviews. Afterall, cassette players had 2 tape compartments and one of them had 'record' button...
Who will pay for a recoded cassette you just copy the cassette for a friend but not for sale to 300,000 people
I think you have a point there. But back when I used to record cassettes I still always later went and bought the actual official cassette. I wanted the better sound quality and also to own the album artwork etc. for myself. I know not everyone was like that, but that's how I was anyway.
That was just the begining of music industry disaster. Nowadays people are so dumb that they pay subscriptions for robbers like spotify. But it all come from US so if Lars believed in "American dream" as he admitted here he should took into consideration that every dream can easily turn into nightmare 🤟
When you think about it, Spotify is nothing but a Napster with a subscription fee!
How many breathes this dude gonna take?
For the record, I’m sorry if iv offended any members of one of if not the best metal band of all time. So if I came off as offensive, it was only for the interests of future musicians and in no way would I deliberately disrespect you, and for all you’ve accomplished is remarkable. Again i officially apologize. Many blessings and good health to All 🙏🏾❤️🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵
Thank you
Ethereal effervescence
Napster BAD!
Beer good!
I never bought another album of any kind or downloaded any ether after this happened .. that was years ago.. if they do not want me to listen to their music by god I will not!@!! btw in case you did not know.. Metallica started suing their fans over the downloads
So, you never had a job?
I don't wanna ruin the party but... Lars was right. I didn't understood him back in the day, now I can see how right he was.
Hear I am agreeing with Lars, but I stream every ufc event 😅
How else is he supposed to buy a solid gold humvee?
Or diamond-studded swimming pools, those things don’t grow on trees.
Thank God Spotify saved us from all that
What a legend!
And never bought anything Metallica since
Yeah and doing just fine without you.....
CZcams should be illegal to download the whole album now you can’t be a pro artist he saw what was coming now there is no market now it is only a hobbie
It's all about greed people...
Not only Lars' greed but that of music industry rulers.
Who knows if they did not set Lars against Napster (as precedence)
Ah yes, that's why they bought their own catalogue back and set up AWMH foundation. Because of greed. Right.
Lars is super gay
But the gayest is James.
Musicians don’t work, they play. 😏
you dont bite the hand that feeds you.
lars did just that.
I download music illegally off the internet
Lars was right.
What a little weasel completely threw away the integrity of his work to scrape a few more dollars off the little man
"a little weasel" - spot on! what a disgusting character
he was looking out for artists who don't have millions of dollars if you were even fucking listening lol
He said what Napster took was pocket change to him. He was looking out for the little bands and musicians that lost everything due to stolen art.
Lars is a putz. The music industry is the same as it always was. You could replace "Napster" with "record company" and it would sound the same. They've been stealing from artists far longer than file sharing has been around.
We got soulseek and others still xD
TBH, he just needed to stfu and make better music... 😆 I love metallica, but that's a fact
Capitalist system. Free market economic model. No wonder everyone hates Lars. He is the opposite of rock.
The last day that Metallica got a penny out of me.
cry about it
@@OohItzFritz You mad
@@dvdfrnzwbr cry some more
Because you wanted free stuff ? How often do you work and volunteer to not get paid ?
Nobody asked. If you worked expecting to get paid but didn't then I don't think you would appreciate that very much.
Lars is a tool. He's always wrong...
Complete hypocrite he was, they used to trade tapes; I know this is old news now, and he may have changed his views.
But he was in the wrong hear
Mix tapes were made from albums you bought though lol
Funny coming from a drummer who's band stole over half their riffs from other bands and openly shared bootlegs with his buddies back in the day.
Record labels have been and still are cancer. They also have a majority stake in streaming services, so let that sink in.
Napster didn't share a damn thing and artists have never made much off album sales.
Lars is full of shit.
You had to be high when you wrote that. Pre-internet era, artists their main source of income were album sales, that's why the artists were so heavily regulated in terms of quality/hit-senstive. Metallica is/was a real oddity when it came to a band of their proportions to be touring so much if you would compare it to let's say Madonna or Barbara Streissand (whom barely did shows and only for outrageous ticket prices).
After the Napster trial, bands and artists started to tour more than they did in their carreers before Napster came along. That is why categorically tours are still named after their albums because those were in support of album sales, not the other way around.
Lars tried to set the bar for what later on became CZcams & Spotify and all things considered, he was right.
Also, i'd like to see you come up with any evidence whatsoever on proven plagiarism on Metallica's side. Riffs from Mustaine? Sure, he was a bandmember after all.
Any other than that, i'd be very surprised.
@@Ngalfar Contract royalties and studio recordings go beyond album sales, but my statement is more about record labels taking advantage of artists. They still do today. So seeing Lars defend their position and not understand a damn thing about what was going on is hilarious.
And if you need further proof Lars was wrong here, look no further than Lars himself who now openly admits he was wrong about Napster and the way the industry was changing. Yes, Lars says Lars was wrong.
@@SicTr4nsit would love to see it because I'm fairly sure you're taking it out of context. Metallica knew at that point in time already they would get to a point to buy themselves out from record labels. Jason leaving just slowed down the moment in time.
As for contract, not one is the same. From what I remember, Metallica started off with the option to buy back. Not a lot of artists get that chance but you are categorically evading artist of a similar popularity considering your statement. Which is convenient, but not the whole story.
1. Your opinion on metallica stealing riffs is absolute bullshit 2. Record Labels may be full of shit but they are what made the artists money. Napster may not have effected musicians then, but it is now. It may not always be about money, but people genuinely need money to live. Now that everybody is independent and everything can be accessed for free, its extremely hard to make it big. 3 Napster is about sharing, that was their whole thing tf you talking about. They stole unreleased material without permission causing a chain reaction that made others a bunch of cash. also 4. Lars has never admitted he was wrong as of now you are totally full of shit. He's just accept what music has come to be..... Record Labels may take advantage of most artists, but they really are a big source of income and are big part in an artists success
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Well Lars 🥲🥲🥲….
Ladies and gentlemen, this was nothing but pissing, moaning and groaning..as opposed to what should have occurred were solutions, collectively with more than enough money to go around, instead he addresses the problems.
Anyone can address the hardships and sorrows of the many musicians as you did so elegantly at this hearing.
..however it takes a real warrior to Solve these hardships, sadly you walked away hardly a warrior. Much less a pioneer advocate of a new revolution of bands and musicianship at large.
Which I, a hard working musician that has mastered his craft, come up with a business model that if collectively and correctly put into place would be an ABSOLUTE solution to what I call an end to the sad crisis of starving musicians.
And I add this would be at no expense to any rich bands except one thing they don’t have to pay a dime for. Their NOTORIETY. It is all it would cost you.
With one tiny spark of a few huge acts such as Metallica (just as an example for all practical purposes) and of course hundreds other,
That perhaps invest 30 seconds of their generous sincere time my, no excuse me, to OUR solution with All bands (creed, Color genre, calibre of talent whether mastered and even beginner bands will now have something so exciting and lucrative to the future of all music
And have an authentic genuine heart for music. That spark will spread like wild fire. This will also include revenues of countless venues, stadiums, auditoriums, bars, clubs, producers, etc
If even one band of notoriety is interested in this selfless, generous and highly lucrative cause, please spread the word.
(Please excuse my poor grammar and spelling, im a musician 🤷🏼♂️ha)
(Unfortunately I have no web page, designs etc. because like I said, I’m a musician and it would be for the better interest collectively, that we have these fine folks with their technical, computer, copyright, domain skills put towards this specifically. This is my better judgement and Wisdom heart non domineering mind speaking.
I do have an exciting title for this and business model of this Rolling stone magazine dream idea for those in position to contribute for start up, which there will of course be millions in revenues to be made by this venture who are we kidding!? I project by 2025 $B3.4 in profits alone. This on top of no overhead and almost literally no capital to launch. No real startup costs really. Except big hearts for music. Notorieties and technical talent is essentially the capital of this venture. Fortunately I love being generous so this is so very specially “let me benefit All”. (Way of the Budha & Christ consciousness. (Iv no specific religious affiliation but adhere to the timeless teachings)
My life is dedicated to music whether I make a dime or billions of dimes. Iv failed at a lot in life, in a lot of areas. But iv never failed music and abhor the failing of the investments of human beings that only and always support the greatest of hearts of inspiration,
And the dreams of the inhabitants that send their wishes to the cosmos each and every night.
May Father sky and Mother Earth bless you richly
Eternally, “ethereal effervescence” 🙏🏾🌹
Christian Hunter Cascon (I be am Cascon)
Gr8ful i am, for you
That’s all I have to say about that. 🙂
“The bands xx***xx888”.