I have to give it up to Joshua, he did an outstanding job breaking some of these tricks down. I've been telling people since Dec to move your fpv cam into 60degree, hold it in your hand and see what the thrust does in certain position in reference to the fpv camera. But now ill just point them to this video lol. But one thing I dont suggest doing is just putting your camera to 60 and head out flying. gradually move it up. around sept i really started working on my speed, and it just made sense to me to fly with more tilt. i started at 45 and slowly went up to 60-70degrees. but I learnt the new flight physics and mastered them before moving to an enclosed concrete structure like underneath the bridge. I dont want to see anyone getting discouraged because they break there gear. I came from stunting motorcycle where if i didnt perform a trick properly i would break bones. so it doesnt bother me that much if i break a quad or gopro. Also I dont fly lumenier gear. I fly a LRC X frame. Its ultra light, a true X frame and perfectly balanced on all three axis. Thanks again Joshua, its an excellent tutorial.
+Diego The Wolf I am pretty sure that matty and others like him just learn to fly that way. I have gone from 15 degrees uptilt all the way to about 45 degrees. Each time I add another 5-10 degrees, the copter feels like it's flying a little weird, and then my brain sort of re-adjusts and I'm good to go. When people suggest fancy mixing and other features to compensate for camera uptilt, I'm a little skeptical. I want my stick inputs to correspond to motor inputs, not camera inputs. My brain can handle the translation.
Hell, I knew it was camera up tilt, but it still makes my mind melt. Only Josh could break it down so the synapses could fire around it and understand.
this video explains it so well , not everyone has the ability to work this out with verbal explanation , i never doubted mattystuntz ability to do what he was doing but i now feel a pratt for asking matty how it was possible, even through his verbal explanation i couldnt understand, put on the drawing board by joshua with crisp demonstration it makes so much sense, thanks Joshua, sorry Matty.
yeah 800th like on this video and proud to give it. Just got into FPV flying few weeks back but already learning a lot, mainly thanks to your clear explanations. So many concepts to grasp, so many new things to learn, love this new hobby. Being a fixed wing pilot and paragliding instructor, i never understood why people call it flying when they are standing safely on the ground... but now i start to understand :)
Thanks Joshua! Excellent explanation of how mattystuntz does it. Reckon change in perception with 60+ degrees is a little like flying 3D, perhaps we just need to give this style of FPV a name? 2.5D? :)
Magician. I had thought this myself but your explanation is so well thought out and to the point. Please continue to educate us Josh, I know i'll be a better flyer for it :)
Great post Josh, very educational. It's really helpful for beginners trying to understand what we're seeing in the pro's videos. Matty is insane, what more can I say?
Thank you! Now I know why I find it so difficult to transition to a higher camera angle. I hadn’t realised the roll and pitch behaviours change so drastically. At least now I can try and adjust my turns...
Bought a RTF kit and Velocidrone to practice a month or so ago. I have close to 20 hours into Velocidrone and a couple packs each day in the last couple weeks. It was getting extremely frustrating because it felt like I was never in control. I saw this video and plugged in a 50 degree camera into Velocidrone and now I actually go where I intend to. Waiting for some packs to charge and the wind to calm down outside now to test IRL. Would have never dawned on me to test camera angle; just thought something was wrong with my motor skills.
Very nice educational video. FYI small detail - generally thrust vectors are in the direction of movement (up from quad in this case). I had a professor grill me on that once. I know I know... splitting hairs please don't mind me..
Exactly what I was thinking. At first I was wondering to myself "Why are his motors upside down?" Lol. Once I understood what he meant, I disregarded the mistake.
+Joshua Bardwell Hard to pull the wool over your eyes :). Skitzo runs flat GoPro and abut 30 FPV cam tilt. This gives all his barrel roll type tricks looks much more axial. It also makes the GoPro look at the ground during FFF so that's why you always see him going vertical
FinalGlideAus Tell him to try out the cam uptilt compensation feature. With 30 of FPV, try putting in 15 of uptilt compensation. should give relatively axial rolls while making framing of regular shots easier. If you were to combine 15 degrees of GoPro uptilt with 15 degrees of uptilt compensation, then the GoPro should be perfectly axial, but less staring at the ground during forward flight.
+Joshua Bardwell But then it really screws with the way the quad flies. The whole point of us acro pilots is that we remove as much of the influence of the FC so we can do what we want.
Awesome Video Joshua, Many thanks for doing this after I asked for it, means alot so now can understand alot more now its done... now to chop carbon so I can get over 45 degree tilt.....
I was going to ask mattystuntz if he uses 3D. Thanks for sparing me the embarassment! Excellent explanation. As an engineer, I appreciate that. I also recommend to first practice on a simulator before going flying. A change of just 5 degrees will require some re-training.
This is very informative. Thank you! Can you make a video on tilted motors? Your video shows the benefits of having 60 degrees of uptilt in terms of aerobatics, but to get the most speed, would having less uptilt but with tilted motors be better? Tilted motors allows the quad to get the same amount of forward vector but at less tilt, which makes it more aerodynamic. Despite this benefit, tilted motors are apparently unpopular. Do you know why?
+Fyre SG I've heard they mess with yaw characteristics, since your motors are no longer in the same plane. There are several frames now, such as the Krieger and LRC X frame, where the increased drag is negligible, so motor tilts don't have much benefit anymore.
Well done Sir I love the physics included! And here I've been sitting on 20 degrees thinking how are they doing this, I'm missing the link! I figured more tilt would surely help in racing, but I don't race! Didn't think of the advantages in acrobatics! Time to stop sitting cozy at 20 and up the ante! I'm off to crash the sh** out of my quad!
I'm feeling proud of myself, because I could see some of the effects you mention coming, but I gathered my courage, and set my camera to its max uptilt position. Which happens to be 60 degrees... on the FPVFreerider sim. The same one I learned acro mode from you on. Thanks. I went from not even being able to fly to the FIRST gate, to feeling good, and doing neat tricks. Even in my real quad. I was brave though to try it, but not crazy and scared to try it on my real quad. Hence the sim. I pretty much figured out the effects you're talking about, and had pleasant surprises, and negative ones. But I kind of expected them. Split S's become a visibility piece of cake, but pull out low with the horizon level, and your gonna crash! Just flying around was a bitch. If your heading towards an opening level, you're hauling ass. To gain a little needed altitude, without changing attitude can take A LOT of throttle, if you can do it. So I was gaining loads of speed, and I already was going faster than I wanted. I think stuff I learn in the sim transfer well into a real quad. Thanks, you're explanations were great. I was in shock! LOL
thanks Joshua. makes sense. A true master of all dimensions would maybe try headtracking his cam tilt - but then it gets so weird :)Once I was curious to see if HT on a quad makes any sense - and of course it was a short experiment :)currently I'm at 10-20° of tilt and already feel cool flying this way :) Ah yes: more wideangle lens might be good for those extreme stunts, doesnt it? (I guess most of those guys fly 2.1mm lenses?)
Josh... You said, 'most of us would crash when you do that' at the end of the vid. Remember that you can fly with regular up tilt on your FPV cam. You only need to have the recording cam with the extreme up tilt. No crashing!
+mattystuntz Yea that is the real key here in how these videos melt your brain, the FPV cam is at 60 degrees and the HD cam is at 45. Really smart stuff for getting outstanding footage and I am sure it takes quite an adjustment to fly with a 60 degree angle :)
I'm not ready for the hyper speed yet. maybe once the trees sprout leaves again. As a compromise, I've installed a2.1mm lens. it was really easy to adjust to. The only problem was the ground comes really fast when you get closer so you gotta be careful there. it's nice to know if I can't see the obstacles I probably won't hit them.
Technically you don't actually need to fly with 60° up tilt. You could get the same effect with a conventionally angled FPV cam. and your action cam set at 60°.
Great video, I was wondering how he did that. I figured he had reversible props maybe. But this makes sense also. A couple of moves he does later on in that video, he is in the trees coming into a split -S blind, and it just looks like a luck shot to me, it's so strange looking, but cool at the same time.
If you watch one of his earlier videos he shows how much prep work went into doing a reverse blind exit from a loop. It's not luck. He practices like crazy with LOS spotters to help him get his visual references correct.
Very informative, I'm just getting the parts to build a QAV250 to move away from my smaller training junk and so I'm looking at as many setup/instructional videos that I can find. Question for you Joshua, what would his FPV camera be set at? The same degree as the HD camera or something different?
I believe he sets his FPV camera to less uptilt. Personally I prefer to keep my FPV and HD cameras at very similar angle because it helps with framing. But other top pilots run at different angles. Less HD than uptilt mea s you can fly fast while keeping your rolls looking pure. Less FPV angle than HD means you get more 3d like effect.
I watched Matty's last vid, 'A new Age', with my jaw on the floor the other day, in awe of his skill and the beauty of his flying style (plus that song.. wow). That I got to 2:04 in the vid and confusion set in :lol: All the cam tilt in the world doesn't explain what's going on here; he's knife-edging round the beam with no loss of alt! It seems that for Matty, not only is gravity no impediment, but neither are the laws of physics. JB, please explain :D
+Revs Hmm, think I've sussed it. It's subtle but it looks like a/ he is losing a little alt and b/ he's not quite rolled 90*, so he's only losing alt slowly, but with so much cam tilt his roll angle actually looks like yaw... if that makes sense. Oh, and his quad weighs like 5 grams lol Still, a stunning video and pilot.
+Revs Ive told people to do this a couple months ago in my previous video comments. put your fpv cam to 60, then hold it in your hand and see what the thrust does in different orientations. when you fpv camera is in a knife edge position you are still producing lift. thats what makes knife edge rolls possible.
+mattystuntz Only just found/subbed you a couple of weeks ago dude, but you have some great vids. Now I've thought about it I see what's happening, but how you do it in realtime is beyond me. Did you just slowly work up to 60deg? If so, did you have trouble adapting? Cheers for the reply btw :)
+mattystuntz Still Amazing!! With the angle so high do you use an OSD with horizon to know when you're level? That's what I'm trying to adjust to when I change the angle. I don't have an OSD yet.
Maybe odd question. Can you share your slides? I am trying to get together a course for aviation students at my Uni to use quads to learn aviation terminology (I am in Japan). These simple slides would be helpful. Thanks for the vid! Informative as always. (I learned something today!)
Curious to hear your thoughts on this, Joshua: an option in beta flight where camera up-tilt is entered by the user and the flight controller mixes the roll/yaw inputs so that, for example, a roll-only input would result in the copter only "rolling" from the perspective of the fpv camera (no PERCEIVED yaw). So, if 90 degrees was entered (and used on the copter), roll and yaw would be completely swapped. This would mean if you used a stick input to roll the copter left, the fc would actually be yawing it to the right instead. If 45 was entered, a roll input would be broken into 50% roll and 50% yaw in the OPPOSITE direction. A yaw input would result in 50% yaw and 50% roll in the SAME direction. Just curious to see if any pilots can imagine this resulting in a desired flight feel or if it would just add to the confusion. Maybe this is already being done in transmitter programming? Maybe the copter would be unflyable? I'm still trying to process this mind bender.
+ghall05 I don't personally like that option. In order to do snap rolls at high uptilt, the copter would need to mix in large amounts of yaw. I think it's very likely that the copter would not have enough yaw authority to keep everything together, and would become destabilized. I don't mind coordinating turns and rolls by hand. It takes a bit of adjustment, but I get used to it and I'm fine. But I feel like coordinating a snap roll to get pure roll back out of this algorithm would be difficult, because it's happening so fast. I like knowing that when I bang the roll stick full over, no yaw at all is being commanded, and maximum authority is being given to the roll axis. The snap-roll makes a cone instead of a line, but it happens so fast that I don't care. I also kind of like some of the unexpected effects of up-tilt on the camera, such as entering a split-s "level" (actually pitched forward) and then being pointing straight down when I roll 180.
+Joshua Bardwell Great point. Of course, a 50/50 roll/yaw mix would feel like you were flying a copter with 0° tilt (except at WARP speed). Since most of us are probably used to flying with an angle of about 30°, the mix could be tweaked to give a copter with a large amount of up-tilt the feel of one with a less extreme angle (except faster!) and would lessen the amount of work the yaw axis would be required to do. All in the name of MORE AWESOME!
Joshua, great video, however I'm trying to understand your thrust vector arrow pointing in the wrong direction. Any reason for that? Is not thrust the force opposite to prop air flow?
Question... Why would you need your flight camera at such an extreme angle and force to fly differently? Your GoPro mounted at an extreme angle (60 degrees) while leaving your flight camera at more of a conservative angle (40ish) creates the same affect without the confusing optical illusions during flight
It doesn't, because then you're not flying at high uptilt and the GoPro simply looks at the sky and the ground. The GoPro angle must be relatively close (say, within +/- 10 degrees) to the FPV camera angle for the flight footage to look good.
+Rigo He's not flying backwards. I think that he's basically doing a nose-in spin around the pylon, but the camera's uptilt makes it look like he's pitched back.
That part initially confused me too. However if you do what Joshua suggests and imagine what the quad is doing then you'll see that it is 'just' a power loop with the quad pointing at a right angle to its direction of movement. It requires a huge amount of skill to pull off, but he's not breaking physics to do it! 😀
Imagine it as a roll maneuver with 90 degrees uptilt. It would look like yaw because if the uptilt. Whenever you're above 45 degrees uptilt, yaw and roll appear transposed from the camera's view.
Josh. Great work again. I'm still trying to work my way through your PID tuning videos. Is freestyle flying better or worse with a 3D quad with reversible props etc?
+clifton23 He said no. He said the GoPro is at about 45 degrees while the FPV cam is at about 60-70 degrees. But the GoPro has such wide FOV that it still captures everything.
very nice explanation Josh! again I find your videos very informative. I have an off topic question again for you. a few weeks ago I asked about 4s batteries and my quad shutting down on full throttle. your suggestion was higher c rating. well I purchased a 40c battery (zippy) and still get the same result. what I don't understand is why I can fly on 35c at 3s but 40c on 4s and I get low voltage. I don't fly very aggressive at all. what c rating would you suggest (or batteries) and is there something else I may be missing? thank you very much in advance!
+J dog harrell You can't judge what C rating you need until you determine how many amps your motors are trying to pull. Check the results in this video: czcams.com/video/chPSEXXQ3hk/video.html Notice that, all else being equal, switching from 3S to 4S results in about 30% more amp draw at full throttle. But honestly, if you say you don't fly aggressively, then there is probably something else you're missing, but I don't know what it would be.
+Joshua Bardwell OK, so in theory the throttle/amp curve is much greater on 4s at the higher end as compared to a 3s battery? that would likely explain why even a 40c battery would still shut down my quad (assuming the C rating was accurate). I have a tattu 45c in the mail to try, hoping for positive results.
i have a question joschua ;) why is the thrust in 90° to the circle circumference ? it could have another angle aswell or not? or is this model with a locked in thrust angle, circle scale and circumference?
In order to fly a circle, thrust must be 90 degrees to the tangent, I believe. I am pretty sure (but not 100% sure) that if thrust was not 90 degrees to the tangent, you would fly an arc instead of a circle. But honestly, it's all abstract. It's just concepts.
I have a question. What angle is the fpv cam? What angle is the footage cam? I'm trying to clear this up between a friend and I. He swears up and down that the footage cam is at about 30 degrees, and the Fpv cam is 60. I think it's the opposite. Could you clarify this for me please. Thank you.
+RadioActive RC The HD cam is definitely, unquestionably, at high uptilt. There is no way to do the tricks that matty does without high uptilt on the camera from which we are seeing the footage. It's possible to run the FPV cam at lower angle than the HD cam, in which case the HD cam looks like crazy mattystuntz land while the pilot is actually seeing something more normal. It's also possible to do the opposite and run the HD cam at lower angle than the FPV cam. This lets the pilot fly fast but keeps rolls looking centered for the viewer. It also means that the viewer sees more of the ground and less of the sky, which can be okay to a point, since the viewer doesn't need to actually steer the copter. I think I remember matty saying that his FPV cam was at a lower angle than his HD cam, but I honestly can't remember where I heard that, so don't take it as gospel.
+Joshua Bardwell thank you for the quick reply. It made sense to me that the HD cam would be at a higher tilt angle in order to give us the awesome anti gravity footage. Thanks for clearing that up.
can an aireal quadcopter do tricks and flips like racing drone??I'm just getting in the hobby and purchased a promark p70...any help with this question would be appreciated
I was going to shim the gopro mount down to 15 degrees from 30, but after watching this video I'm going to adjust my fpv camera to 30 degrees. I think I'm ready to move past 10 degrees at this point.
I'm flying with about 10 degrees uptilt. Is it better for beginner to set up something like 30-35 degrees and start to learn flying with it, or better to start from 10 and go up step by step? I think it is difficult to fly slow with high tilted cam for beginner
+Joshua Bardwell so it is better to learn with small tilt. By the way - thank you for the work you do. It's amazing. It is better channel about fpv. And your videos comes out right as just as I imagine any question about fpv)) some kind of magic?)) For the last month or two just watching rotor riots and their separate channels "for the soul" and fun and your for all of the technical issues.
I think that Matty doesn't run the same angle on his gopro as his FPV camera. But if you want your audience to see the effect of the crazy uptilt, you need to run the gopro at the crazy uptilt. I think that Matty runs his FPV camera at less uptilt than his gopro.
how does he do the one where it looks like he is looping up then going under an object in reverse without any sight of the object in the camera? no one else does it everyone else loops up and over then forward and through...is he editing the video to run in reverse?
I wonder what would happen if someone tried 90 degrees of uptilt. If they did manage to control it (dunno if it would be possible), the footage would absolutely destroy your brain
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I was bashing my quad around the other day. Knocked the camera into a negative tilt. Man was that a mind fuck. It was so disorienting, forwards was backwards, I slammed into my car.
Personally i have to disagree. I think that his quad is a bit more heavy meaning, it has greater momentum, also since he is going really fast that also adds to the momentum of the quad thus giving more hang time. I dont think he has more than 45 degrees of uptilt, i think its very challenging to get the 60 degrees uptilt. From what i know Mr Steele is using 25-30 degrees which is relatively a small angle. So to sum it up... i think the momentum is the secret. (i also think he is is using 3D, cause even if he had 60 degrees of uptilt he would not be able to pull those tricks of. (simple trigonometry))
Ok fair enough but he is going pretty much at full throttle and he's quad has the thrust. The main point is that i disagree with the up tilt .. i really dont think he is using such an extreme angle.
+Claudiu Ciontea well, you're free to be wrong. Once upon a time, way back when, I accused Tommy Ummagawd of using a gimbal, he was so smooth I just couldn't believe it. I've been there.
hey Josh I got a quick question for you since they found those new planets they are questioning gravity and they are questioning whether or not the Earth is actually spinning I had somebody ask me a good question and I did not have the answer for it when we do a bunch out to the clouds why when we descend are we not in another location if the Earth is actually spinning I know I need to put my tinfoil hat on LOL I figured you would be the perfect guy to ask on this
+Ultimatevapor918 just to be clear, nobody legitimate is questioning whether the earth is spinning. But to get to your question, let me ask you a question back. The earth is spinning. You are standing on the surface of the earth. You are therefore spinning. The Earth has an atmosphere. When the atmosphere moves relative to the surface of the earth, we call that wind. Sometimes there is no wind. What does it mean when there is no wind?
+Ultimatevapor918 here is another question. If you are in a car, driving at 60 mph on the highway, and you throw a ball up in the air, why does it come back down into your hand, instead of smashing into the back window?
+Lewis “BoosiveFPV” Boateng That's like saying that David Baline is "just doing sleight of hand." Put your camera at 60 degrees uptilt and go fly a few packs and get back to me. This is awesome, awesome piloting, combined with camera trickery.
+Joshua Bardwell Ohh there's no doubt he's an awesome pilot but he also tricking us in to making us believe he's doing the unthinkable making him look better and that this type of flying isn't possible when it's just the usual tricks with extreme camera tilt. I've only just started flying so I'll stick to my 30 degrees for now thank you haha. Check my channel. Not bad for the little experience I have. I will be this good one day ;)
+Lewis “BoosiveFPV” Boateng I really feel like it's overly dismissive to say that he's tricking us. What he's doing is not "just the usual tricks". Check out his first big video, where he does a blind backwards loop between two trees, for example. I had never seen that trick before he did it, and the behind-the-scenes video he published shows just how much practice and prep was required to pull it off. You try doing the vertical drops he does between trees... it's very hard! Heck, you try flying as fast as he does without crashing at all! Matty is definitely innovating. Anyway, the way uptilt changes the direction of thrust is so radical that I don't even think you can say this is "the same old tricks". Look at how he floats at the top, underneath the highway. Nobody who wan't running 60-70 degrees uptilt could even attempt that trick. You're entitled to your opinion, but I really disagree.
+Joshua Bardwell you did clearly say in your vid that the cam tilt gives the illusion that he's pulling off the unthinkable though. When it's just extreme camera tilt combined with professional flying skills. I guarantee if the other greats did the same thing. Their videos would have the same effect. Before this I thought he had super powers lol. But all it is practice getting the moves down and then gradually increasing the camera tilt as you improve. In a sense. Anyone can do this. It just requires practice like most things. That's all I'm trying to say. Not trying to discredit his flying at all. He's a world class pilot. I'm just saying that the cam makes it look like he's actually doing more then what he is. I'd like to see the action cam at a normal angle. I guarantee the videos wouldn't look quite as spectacular. Do you not agree?
+Lewis “BoosiveFPV” Boateng Well, in a sense, anybody can do anything with enough practice... Matty has always said he's not using any 3D or other tricks. Just camera uptilt.
I have to give it up to Joshua, he did an outstanding job breaking some of these tricks down. I've been telling people since Dec to move your fpv cam into 60degree, hold it in your hand and see what the thrust does in certain position in reference to the fpv camera. But now ill just point them to this video lol. But one thing I dont suggest doing is just putting your camera to 60 and head out flying. gradually move it up. around sept i really started working on my speed, and it just made sense to me to fly with more tilt. i started at 45 and slowly went up to 60-70degrees. but I learnt the new flight physics and mastered them before moving to an enclosed concrete structure like underneath the bridge. I dont want to see anyone getting discouraged because they break there gear. I came from stunting motorcycle where if i didnt perform a trick properly i would break bones. so it doesnt bother me that much if i break a quad or gopro.
Also I dont fly lumenier gear. I fly a LRC X frame. Its ultra light, a true X frame and perfectly balanced on all three axis.
Thanks again Joshua, its an excellent tutorial.
+mattystuntz Still stunning videos man! Love your work! It is definately something unique compared to others!
+mattystuntz nevermind how you do the moves, how the hell do you stand while doing these moves? i still feel like falling over o.O
+mattystuntz Do you have a custom mix in your RC or is it just learning, that the Yaw/Roll is nearly swapped ?
+mattystuntz Ya crazy! Haha! ;)
+Diego The Wolf I am pretty sure that matty and others like him just learn to fly that way. I have gone from 15 degrees uptilt all the way to about 45 degrees. Each time I add another 5-10 degrees, the copter feels like it's flying a little weird, and then my brain sort of re-adjusts and I'm good to go. When people suggest fancy mixing and other features to compensate for camera uptilt, I'm a little skeptical. I want my stick inputs to correspond to motor inputs, not camera inputs. My brain can handle the translation.
Hell, I knew it was camera up tilt, but it still makes my mind melt.
Only Josh could break it down so the synapses could fire around it and understand.
I'm more puzzled how he seems to glide around slowly at his 60+ tilt! If I put a tilt like that.. I'm zoomin!! Haha
probably low pitch on props?
this video explains it so well , not everyone has the ability to work this out with verbal explanation , i never doubted mattystuntz ability to do what he was doing but i now feel a pratt for asking matty how it was possible, even through his verbal explanation i couldnt understand, put on the drawing board by joshua with crisp demonstration it makes so much sense, thanks Joshua, sorry Matty.
yeah 800th like on this video and proud to give it. Just got into FPV flying few weeks back but already learning a lot, mainly thanks to your clear explanations. So many concepts to grasp, so many new things to learn, love this new hobby. Being a fixed wing pilot and paragliding instructor, i never understood why people call it flying when they are standing safely on the ground... but now i start to understand :)
Very good explanation about Matty's flying and extreme camera uptilt, loved to watch this. Thanks Josh. :)
Thanks Joshua. Well done.
Thanks Joshua! Excellent explanation of how mattystuntz does it. Reckon change in perception with 60+ degrees is a little like flying 3D, perhaps we just need to give this style of FPV a name? 2.5D? :)
Magician. I had thought this myself but your explanation is so well thought out and to the point. Please continue to educate us Josh, I know i'll be a better flyer for it :)
+Swarm FPV Thanks for the kind words!
Excellent analysis and explanation. That's using your brain! :)
Awesome illustration man :) well done!
thanks for taking the time to make this video
Quality explanation.. THANKS for the effort (especially the diagrams and video examples!!)
Thanks for watching!
Great post Josh, very educational. It's really helpful for beginners trying to understand what we're seeing in the pro's videos. Matty is insane, what more can I say?
Thank you! Now I know why I find it so difficult to transition to a higher camera angle. I hadn’t realised the roll and pitch behaviours change so drastically. At least now I can try and adjust my turns...
Makes 100% sense....Totally a No-brainer......one of those Duh!! Moments well done fellas!!
Fantastic explanation. Just recently found your videos and have already learned so much from them. Now time to go practice on FPV Freeride. Thank you.
+RadioActive RC happy flying?
Great analysis Joshua!
Good explaination...you know your good when other youtubers break out the drawings hehe.. thumbs up
Nice explanation the only thing amiss is the direction of thrust!
Bought a RTF kit and Velocidrone to practice a month or so ago. I have close to 20 hours into Velocidrone and a couple packs each day in the last couple weeks. It was getting extremely frustrating because it felt like I was never in control. I saw this video and plugged in a 50 degree camera into Velocidrone and now I actually go where I intend to. Waiting for some packs to charge and the wind to calm down outside now to test IRL. Would have never dawned on me to test camera angle; just thought something was wrong with my motor skills.
Very nice educational video. FYI small detail - generally thrust vectors are in the direction of movement (up from quad in this case). I had a professor grill me on that once. I know I know... splitting hairs please don't mind me..
Exactly what I was thinking. At first I was wondering to myself "Why are his motors upside down?" Lol. Once I understood what he meant, I disregarded the mistake.
This was an easy one. Now to see if you can explain why Skitzo's videos look different. Hint, it has something to do with camera tilt as well :)
+FinalGlideAus He flys with no camera tilt i guess?
I think Skitzo has less uptilt on his GoPro than his FPV cam. I was just looking at his Instagram the other day.
+Joshua Bardwell Hard to pull the wool over your eyes :). Skitzo runs flat GoPro and abut 30 FPV cam tilt. This gives all his barrel roll type tricks looks much more axial. It also makes the GoPro look at the ground during FFF so that's why you always see him going vertical
FinalGlideAus Tell him to try out the cam uptilt compensation feature. With 30 of FPV, try putting in 15 of uptilt compensation. should give relatively axial rolls while making framing of regular shots easier.
If you were to combine 15 degrees of GoPro uptilt with 15 degrees of uptilt compensation, then the GoPro should be perfectly axial, but less staring at the ground during forward flight.
+Joshua Bardwell But then it really screws with the way the quad flies. The whole point of us acro pilots is that we remove as much of the influence of the FC so we can do what we want.
Awesome Video Joshua, Many thanks for doing this after I asked for it, means alot so now can understand alot more now its done... now to chop carbon so I can get over 45 degree tilt.....
Brilliant stuff! Thanks for sharing that Joshua.
Great video - thanks for your well put together thoughts.
Keep it coming.
Magic show , great video
Thanks for this explanation. Opened my eyes big time and now I have some good understanding on camera angling. Nice!
+A Natural MOAR UPTILT = MOAR AWESOME.
Great video. That makes sense to me. Thanks.
I was going to ask mattystuntz if he uses 3D. Thanks for sparing me the embarassment! Excellent explanation. As an engineer, I appreciate that.
I also recommend to first practice on a simulator before going flying. A change of just 5 degrees will require some re-training.
thanks for your response Mr.Bradwell...
great breakdown, got to love the technical...
so i guess mattystuntz doesn't have magical powers after all ; )
Very nice video. I've tried to break it down myself, but this is very informative.
awsome!!! I was soo lost on how he was doing that.Thank you thank you
Awesome video!
Great explanation
This is very informative. Thank you! Can you make a video on tilted motors? Your video shows the benefits of having 60 degrees of uptilt in terms of aerobatics, but to get the most speed, would having less uptilt but with tilted motors be better? Tilted motors allows the quad to get the same amount of forward vector but at less tilt, which makes it more aerodynamic. Despite this benefit, tilted motors are apparently unpopular. Do you know why?
+Fyre SG I've heard they mess with yaw characteristics, since your motors are no longer in the same plane. There are several frames now, such as the Krieger and LRC X frame, where the increased drag is negligible, so motor tilts don't have much benefit anymore.
+PiMan, thank you, that was useful. :)
this is a revelation. thanks!
good analysis.
Bardwell in the house! Great explanation homie.
excellent explanations buddy, thanks so much for making this clear.
Thank you for this! These explanatory vids are just great!
Well done Sir I love the physics included! And here I've been sitting on 20 degrees thinking how are they doing this, I'm missing the link! I figured more tilt would surely help in racing, but I don't race! Didn't think of the advantages in acrobatics! Time to stop sitting cozy at 20 and up the ante! I'm off to crash the sh** out of my quad!
+IzakGt for what it's worth, many acro pilots fly with less uptilt for more pure axial rolls and to be able to slow down in proximity situations.
I'm feeling proud of myself, because I could see some of the effects you mention coming, but I gathered my courage, and set my camera to its max uptilt position. Which happens to be 60 degrees... on the FPVFreerider sim. The same one I learned acro mode from you on. Thanks. I went from not even being able to fly to the FIRST gate, to feeling good, and doing neat tricks. Even in my real quad. I was brave though to try it, but not crazy and scared to try it on my real quad. Hence the sim.
I pretty much figured out the effects you're talking about, and had pleasant surprises, and negative ones. But I kind of expected them. Split S's become a visibility piece of cake, but pull out low with the horizon level, and your gonna crash! Just flying around was a bitch. If your heading towards an opening level, you're hauling ass. To gain a little needed altitude, without changing attitude can take A LOT of throttle, if you can do it. So I was gaining loads of speed, and I already was going faster than I wanted. I think stuff I learn in the sim transfer well into a real quad. Thanks, you're explanations were great. I was in shock! LOL
I was thinking that same thing how he does those crazy stunzs!
thanks Joshua. makes sense. A true master of all dimensions would maybe try headtracking his cam tilt - but then it gets so weird :)Once I was curious to see if HT on a quad makes any sense - and of course it was a short experiment :)currently I'm at 10-20° of tilt and already feel cool flying this way :) Ah yes: more wideangle lens might be good for those extreme stunts, doesnt it? (I guess most of those guys fly 2.1mm lenses?)
Joshua Bardwell, You make the best videos bro.
Great video Josh :D Your a talented educator.
thank you very much!!!!! :)
Josh... You said, 'most of us would crash when you do that' at the end of the vid. Remember that you can fly with regular up tilt on your FPV cam. You only need to have the recording cam with the extreme up tilt. No crashing!
+Richard Ding Doesnt work that way. you need to see where youre going. you would crash way more with less tilt trying the maneuvers i do.
+mattystuntz I'll have to try it! Great flying BTW! Very trance-like watching your extreme up tilt vids.
+mattystuntz Yea that is the real key here in how these videos melt your brain, the FPV cam is at 60 degrees and the HD cam is at 45. Really smart stuff for getting outstanding footage and I am sure it takes quite an adjustment to fly with a 60 degree angle :)
thank you :)
Thank you for the explanation. makes sense now.
Waw that makes so much sense. Its like a magic trick.
That was like watching those videos on how magicians do their tricks lol Thanks for the video. Those trees look a lot like TX...
+Smokkedandslammed i said the same exact thing in my head when the vid was over.
I love you! I've been looking for that edgy something to make my new rewindy freestyle look extraordinary and this is gonna do it :)
I'm not ready for the hyper speed yet. maybe once the trees sprout leaves again. As a compromise, I've installed a2.1mm lens. it was really easy to adjust to. The only problem was the ground comes really fast when you get closer so you gotta be careful there. it's nice to know if I can't see the obstacles I probably won't hit them.
Technically you don't actually need to fly with 60° up tilt. You could get the same effect with a conventionally angled FPV cam. and your action cam set at 60°.
+FunkinWacky It'd be hard to compose the shots that way though.
+Joshua Bardwell True but I'd be curious how it would look?
I've not watched video yet but no secrets just hard work, discipline, passion and being a Bad Ass!
should of used a liftrc x as a model! haha
Absolutely! The title is just to titillate.
+Tom Smith FPV I to very much agree.
Sorry about the Lumenier frame. I just snatched the first clean image I could find. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.
+Joshua Bardwell it's no problem, not like the LRC X has a bunch of pics bouncy around. Just as long as people know I don't fly lumenier.
Joshua Bardwell is the Alton Brown of FPV
Great video, I was wondering how he did that. I figured he had reversible props maybe. But this makes sense also. A couple of moves he does later on in that video, he is in the trees coming into a split -S blind, and it just looks like a luck shot to me, it's so strange looking, but cool at the same time.
If you watch one of his earlier videos he shows how much prep work went into doing a reverse blind exit from a loop. It's not luck. He practices like crazy with LOS spotters to help him get his visual references correct.
He deserves more attention I think, his style is unique.
3000gtwelder to say the least
great video very informative I hit the sub button .thanks for the lesson
Everyone watching and reading this should also watch SeanFPV. There are times I am convinced he is flying 3D but he is not.
Very informative, I'm just getting the parts to build a QAV250 to move away from my smaller training junk and so I'm looking at as many setup/instructional videos that I can find. Question for you Joshua, what would his FPV camera be set at? The same degree as the HD camera or something different?
I believe he sets his FPV camera to less uptilt. Personally I prefer to keep my FPV and HD cameras at very similar angle because it helps with framing. But other top pilots run at different angles. Less HD than uptilt mea s you can fly fast while keeping your rolls looking pure. Less FPV angle than HD means you get more 3d like effect.
I watched Matty's last vid, 'A new Age', with my jaw on the floor the other day, in awe of his skill and the beauty of his flying style (plus that song.. wow). That I got to 2:04 in the vid and confusion set in :lol: All the cam tilt in the world doesn't explain what's going on here; he's knife-edging round the beam with no loss of alt! It seems that for Matty, not only is gravity no impediment, but neither are the laws of physics.
JB, please explain :D
+Revs Hmm, think I've sussed it. It's subtle but it looks like a/ he is losing a little alt and b/ he's not quite rolled 90*, so he's only losing alt slowly, but with so much cam tilt his roll angle actually looks like yaw... if that makes sense. Oh, and his quad weighs like 5 grams lol
Still, a stunning video and pilot.
+Revs yes, exactly. The uptilt makes roll look like yaw.
+Revs Ive told people to do this a couple months ago in my previous video comments. put your fpv cam to 60, then hold it in your hand and see what the thrust does in different orientations. when you fpv camera is in a knife edge position you are still producing lift. thats what makes knife edge rolls possible.
+mattystuntz Only just found/subbed you a couple of weeks ago dude, but you have some great vids. Now I've thought about it I see what's happening, but how you do it in realtime is beyond me. Did you just slowly work up to 60deg? If so, did you have trouble adapting? Cheers for the reply btw :)
+mattystuntz Still Amazing!! With the angle so high do you use an OSD with horizon to know when you're level? That's what I'm trying to adjust to when I change the angle. I don't have an OSD yet.
Maybe odd question. Can you share your slides? I am trying to get together a course for aviation students at my Uni to use quads to learn aviation terminology (I am in Japan). These simple slides would be helpful.
Thanks for the vid! Informative as always. (I learned something today!)
These slides are long gone... sorry.
No worries! I appreciate your getting back to me so quick! Keep up the awesome work. :)
Curious to hear your thoughts on this, Joshua: an option in beta flight where camera up-tilt is entered by the user and the flight controller mixes the roll/yaw inputs so that, for example, a roll-only input would result in the copter only "rolling" from the perspective of the fpv camera (no PERCEIVED yaw). So, if 90 degrees was entered (and used on the copter), roll and yaw would be completely swapped. This would mean if you used a stick input to roll the copter left, the fc would actually be yawing it to the right instead. If 45 was entered, a roll input would be broken into 50% roll and 50% yaw in the OPPOSITE direction. A yaw input would result in 50% yaw and 50% roll in the SAME direction.
Just curious to see if any pilots can imagine this resulting in a desired flight feel or if it would just add to the confusion. Maybe this is already being done in transmitter programming? Maybe the copter would be unflyable? I'm still trying to process this mind bender.
+ghall05 I don't personally like that option. In order to do snap rolls at high uptilt, the copter would need to mix in large amounts of yaw. I think it's very likely that the copter would not have enough yaw authority to keep everything together, and would become destabilized. I don't mind coordinating turns and rolls by hand. It takes a bit of adjustment, but I get used to it and I'm fine. But I feel like coordinating a snap roll to get pure roll back out of this algorithm would be difficult, because it's happening so fast. I like knowing that when I bang the roll stick full over, no yaw at all is being commanded, and maximum authority is being given to the roll axis. The snap-roll makes a cone instead of a line, but it happens so fast that I don't care. I also kind of like some of the unexpected effects of up-tilt on the camera, such as entering a split-s "level" (actually pitched forward) and then being pointing straight down when I roll 180.
+ghall05 All that being said, I haven't actually tested it out yet, and I intend to test it some time soon, and maybe I will love it.
+Joshua Bardwell Great point. Of course, a 50/50 roll/yaw mix would feel like you were flying a copter with 0° tilt (except at WARP speed). Since most of us are probably used to flying with an angle of about 30°, the mix could be tweaked to give a copter with a large amount of up-tilt the feel of one with a less extreme angle (except faster!) and would lessen the amount of work the yaw axis would be required to do.
All in the name of MORE AWESOME!
What a great breakdown! Sub'd!
Joshua, great video, however I'm trying to understand your thrust vector arrow pointing in the wrong direction. Any reason for that? Is not thrust the force opposite to prop air flow?
I'm not a physicist. I got the thrust vector the wrong way.
No worries, still great video :)
Question... Why would you need your flight camera at such an extreme angle and force to fly differently? Your GoPro mounted at an extreme angle (60 degrees) while leaving your flight camera at more of a conservative angle (40ish) creates the same affect without the confusing optical illusions during flight
It doesn't, because then you're not flying at high uptilt and the GoPro simply looks at the sky and the ground. The GoPro angle must be relatively close (say, within +/- 10 degrees) to the FPV camera angle for the flight footage to look good.
What about the backwards flying around 2:04 mark in his video... Is he just pitching back and rolling? Or is he just lowering throttle and rolling?
+Rigo He's not flying backwards. I think that he's basically doing a nose-in spin around the pylon, but the camera's uptilt makes it look like he's pitched back.
Ok , this is not a secret, we all know that, but how he manage to do yaw spin at 6:18 at his last video
That part initially confused me too. However if you do what Joshua suggests and imagine what the quad is doing then you'll see that it is 'just' a power loop with the quad pointing at a right angle to its direction of movement. It requires a huge amount of skill to pull off, but he's not breaking physics to do it! 😀
Imagine it as a roll maneuver with 90 degrees uptilt. It would look like yaw because if the uptilt. Whenever you're above 45 degrees uptilt, yaw and roll appear transposed from the camera's view.
+Joshua Bardwell Yeah its more like a roll with a bit of yaw :D. Really stunning and game changing flying btw. It really makes you think!
Josh. Great work again. I'm still trying to work my way through your PID tuning videos. Is freestyle flying better or worse with a 3D quad with reversible props etc?
Not better or worse, just different.
Curious if the gopro or whatever is recording the video is at the same angle as the fpv camera?
+clifton23 He said no. He said the GoPro is at about 45 degrees while the FPV cam is at about 60-70 degrees. But the GoPro has such wide FOV that it still captures everything.
very nice explanation Josh! again I find your videos very informative. I have an off topic question again for you. a few weeks ago I asked about 4s batteries and my quad shutting down on full throttle. your suggestion was higher c rating. well I purchased a 40c battery (zippy) and still get the same result. what I don't understand is why I can fly on 35c at 3s but 40c on 4s and I get low voltage. I don't fly very aggressive at all. what c rating would you suggest (or batteries) and is there something else I may be missing? thank you very much in advance!
+J dog harrell You can't judge what C rating you need until you determine how many amps your motors are trying to pull. Check the results in this video:
czcams.com/video/chPSEXXQ3hk/video.html
Notice that, all else being equal, switching from 3S to 4S results in about 30% more amp draw at full throttle.
But honestly, if you say you don't fly aggressively, then there is probably something else you're missing, but I don't know what it would be.
+Joshua Bardwell OK, so in theory the throttle/amp curve is much greater on 4s at the higher end as compared to a 3s battery? that would likely explain why even a 40c battery would still shut down my quad (assuming the C rating was accurate). I have a tattu 45c in the mail to try, hoping for positive results.
i have a question joschua ;)
why is the thrust in 90° to the circle circumference ? it could have another angle aswell or not? or is this model with a locked in thrust angle, circle scale and circumference?
how you want to fly a circle in real life...^^
In order to fly a circle, thrust must be 90 degrees to the tangent, I believe. I am pretty sure (but not 100% sure) that if thrust was not 90 degrees to the tangent, you would fly an arc instead of a circle.
But honestly, it's all abstract. It's just concepts.
thanks for your answer :)
cheers from north germany!
have a great week
I have a question. What angle is the fpv cam? What angle is the footage cam? I'm trying to clear this up between a friend and I. He swears up and down that the footage cam is at about 30 degrees, and the Fpv cam is 60. I think it's the opposite. Could you clarify this for me please. Thank you.
+RadioActive RC The HD cam is definitely, unquestionably, at high uptilt. There is no way to do the tricks that matty does without high uptilt on the camera from which we are seeing the footage. It's possible to run the FPV cam at lower angle than the HD cam, in which case the HD cam looks like crazy mattystuntz land while the pilot is actually seeing something more normal. It's also possible to do the opposite and run the HD cam at lower angle than the FPV cam. This lets the pilot fly fast but keeps rolls looking centered for the viewer. It also means that the viewer sees more of the ground and less of the sky, which can be okay to a point, since the viewer doesn't need to actually steer the copter.
I think I remember matty saying that his FPV cam was at a lower angle than his HD cam, but I honestly can't remember where I heard that, so don't take it as gospel.
+Joshua Bardwell thank you for the quick reply. It made sense to me that the HD cam would be at a higher tilt angle in order to give us the awesome anti gravity footage. Thanks for clearing that up.
So do you think the HD cam is at the same angle ?
+Rotceh its at 45degrees roughly
+mattystuntz but its so wide it gets everything
Cheers mate didn't think it was the same :)
can an aireal quadcopter do tricks and flips like racing drone??I'm just getting in the hobby and purchased a promark p70...any help with this question would be appreciated
+Mr. Johnson in theory it could bit it probably is programmed not to.
I was going to shim the gopro mount down to 15 degrees from 30, but after watching this video I'm going to adjust my fpv camera to 30 degrees. I think I'm ready to move past 10 degrees at this point.
+Dean Thorton MOAR uptilt = MOAR speed = MOAR awesome.
Is there any talk about HD cam tilt angle?
+bendavis555 in a sense, this us all about that. Matty could be flying at any angle in his FPV camera. All we see is the HD.
so if you do 3d flying now with negative thrust, we need to keep camera at what angle? 0? :D
He actually flies with 100 degrees of up tilt. It's insane
+Alex Polakis So he flies with the camera tilted 10 degrees backwards? That would make a lot of sense.
+Joshua Bardwell just realized what I said. Oops. On his video it says 100 degree cam but it meant fov not tilt. Your right. He flies with 60
I'm flying with about 10 degrees uptilt. Is it better for beginner to set up something like 30-35 degrees and start to learn flying with it, or better to start from 10 and go up step by step? I think it is difficult to fly slow with high tilted cam for beginner
If you go with too much uptilt too soon you'll just crash a lot because you can't slow down.
+Joshua Bardwell so it is better to learn with small tilt. By the way - thank you for the work you do. It's amazing. It is better channel about fpv. And your videos comes out right as just as I imagine any question about fpv)) some kind of magic?))
For the last month or two just watching rotor riots and their separate channels "for the soul" and fun and your for all of the technical issues.
So, mattystuntz GoPro must be at 60degree plus angle also,correct?
I think that Matty doesn't run the same angle on his gopro as his FPV camera. But if you want your audience to see the effect of the crazy uptilt, you need to run the gopro at the crazy uptilt. I think that Matty runs his FPV camera at less uptilt than his gopro.
It frustrates me that your thrust vectors point in the wrong direction.
+Remotely Interesting I'm a quadcopter pilot, not a physicist, damnit!
Consider my mind bent
how does he do the one where it looks like he is looping up then going under an object in reverse without any sight of the object in the camera? no one else does it everyone else loops up and over then forward and through...is he editing the video to run in reverse?
He doesn't use editing tricks. You learn where the obstacle is and you fly through it backwards.
czcams.com/video/Gf_cUSGeZPw/video.html
Matty is just not human
I wonder what would happen if someone tried 90 degrees of uptilt. If they did manage to control it (dunno if it would be possible), the footage would absolutely destroy your brain
I'm on desktop and the video invariably stops loading past 50 seconds for some reason.
Even after refreshing the page and trying both safari and firefox.
Your computer is messed up. There is nothing wrong with the video.
Others might have the same problem. Just letting you know.
If you watch mattystuntz tutorial videos, he strongly suggests practicing in sims, as he does:-)
I was bashing my quad around the other day. Knocked the camera into a negative tilt. Man was that a mind fuck. It was so disorienting, forwards was backwards, I slammed into my car.
Personally i have to disagree. I think that his quad is a bit more heavy meaning, it has greater momentum, also since he is going really fast that also adds to the momentum of the quad thus giving more hang time. I dont think he has more than 45 degrees of uptilt, i think its very challenging to get the 60 degrees uptilt. From what i know Mr Steele is using 25-30 degrees which is relatively a small angle. So to sum it up... i think the momentum is the secret. (i also think he is is using 3D, cause even if he had 60 degrees of uptilt he would not be able to pull those tricks of. (simple trigonometry))
+Claudiu Ciontea a heavier quad does not have more hang time because it achieves less vertical velocity for a given amount of thrust.
+Claudiu Ciontea and Matty himself has verified thst I'm right. So there really is no debate.
+Claudiu Ciontea he is not using 3d.
Ok fair enough but he is going pretty much at full throttle and he's quad has the thrust. The main point is that i disagree with the up tilt .. i really dont think he is using such an extreme angle.
+Claudiu Ciontea well, you're free to be wrong. Once upon a time, way back when, I accused Tommy Ummagawd of using a gimbal, he was so smooth I just couldn't believe it. I've been there.
Figure it out... LOL
hey Josh I got a quick question for you since they found those new planets they are questioning gravity and they are questioning whether or not the Earth is actually spinning I had somebody ask me a good question and I did not have the answer for it when we do a bunch out to the clouds why when we descend are we not in another location if the Earth is actually spinning I know I need to put my tinfoil hat on LOL I figured you would be the perfect guy to ask on this
+Ultimatevapor918 just to be clear, nobody legitimate is questioning whether the earth is spinning. But to get to your question, let me ask you a question back.
The earth is spinning.
You are standing on the surface of the earth.
You are therefore spinning.
The Earth has an atmosphere. When the atmosphere moves relative to the surface of the earth, we call that wind.
Sometimes there is no wind.
What does it mean when there is no wind?
+Ultimatevapor918 here is another question.
If you are in a car, driving at 60 mph on the highway, and you throw a ball up in the air, why does it come back down into your hand, instead of smashing into the back window?
90 degrees uptilt anyone?
Bruno Eye Ha noob. 120° over here
Why to move de FPV camera? Just stuck de go pro in the extreme angle and fuck everybody´s mind
So this is just camera trickery? I feel fooled and somewhat disappointed lol.
+Lewis “BoosiveFPV” Boateng That's like saying that David Baline is "just doing sleight of hand." Put your camera at 60 degrees uptilt and go fly a few packs and get back to me. This is awesome, awesome piloting, combined with camera trickery.
+Joshua Bardwell Ohh there's no doubt he's an awesome pilot but he also tricking us in to making us believe he's doing the unthinkable making him look better and that this type of flying isn't possible when it's just the usual tricks with extreme camera tilt. I've only just started flying so I'll stick to my 30 degrees for now thank you haha. Check my channel. Not bad for the little experience I have. I will be this good one day ;)
+Lewis “BoosiveFPV” Boateng I really feel like it's overly dismissive to say that he's tricking us. What he's doing is not "just the usual tricks". Check out his first big video, where he does a blind backwards loop between two trees, for example. I had never seen that trick before he did it, and the behind-the-scenes video he published shows just how much practice and prep was required to pull it off. You try doing the vertical drops he does between trees... it's very hard! Heck, you try flying as fast as he does without crashing at all! Matty is definitely innovating.
Anyway, the way uptilt changes the direction of thrust is so radical that I don't even think you can say this is "the same old tricks". Look at how he floats at the top, underneath the highway. Nobody who wan't running 60-70 degrees uptilt could even attempt that trick.
You're entitled to your opinion, but I really disagree.
+Joshua Bardwell you did clearly say in your vid that the cam tilt gives the illusion that he's pulling off the unthinkable though. When it's just extreme camera tilt combined with professional flying skills. I guarantee if the other greats did the same thing. Their videos would have the same effect. Before this I thought he had super powers lol. But all it is practice getting the moves down and then gradually increasing the camera tilt as you improve. In a sense. Anyone can do this. It just requires practice like most things. That's all I'm trying to say. Not trying to discredit his flying at all. He's a world class pilot. I'm just saying that the cam makes it look like he's actually doing more then what he is. I'd like to see the action cam at a normal angle. I guarantee the videos wouldn't look quite as spectacular. Do you not agree?
+Lewis “BoosiveFPV” Boateng Well, in a sense, anybody can do anything with enough practice... Matty has always said he's not using any 3D or other tricks. Just camera uptilt.