Is It Worth It? The Predator Revo Review!!
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2019
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1:31 Beginning
1:53 Unboxing
2:19 Amazing Product B-roll!!
4:21 Product Overview
5:54 My Initial Thoughts
7:13 My Extended Use Thoughts
9:45 Price
11:22 Pros and Cons as well as Verdict
UPDATE!!! I tried the Kamui Brown Soft, DID NOT LIKE IT. I now have a Zan Premium Soft and it's definitely better.
FINALLY!!! I got motivated to finish this video I have been hanging on to for a long time. I would like to thank all of my subscribers for your patience. For the new viewers, welcome and I hope you enjoy this video.
This is the Predator Revo shaft, a 12.4 radial Revo in fact. Man, I have such a love-hate relationship with this shaft. I know this is an expensive investment and a lot of you are not in the market to buy a $500 shaft but I wanted to see what all the hype there is around the carbon fiber shaft market and why not start with the most popular one.
Below is a link to the Dr. Dave video I talked about in the video where he goes into more of the analytical science comparison of Low Deflection shafts.
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Thank you for the review of our product! We always appreciate the feedback on our products so we can continue to make them better for each and every player out there. Keep an eye out for our launches in 2020, I think you'll be happy with what we have in store.
Wow!! Thanks for the comment and I really appreciate the time you took to watch the video! My first aftermarket shaft was a 314 Pre-cat and have always had an affection for your LD shafts. I definitely look forward to seeing what you have coming in 2020. I also hope to make the 2020 SBE so maybe I will see you there at your booth. If I do make it, I plan on doing a video on it. Again thanks so much for the shout out!
@@PoolAddiction Yes we will be at SBE! I'm not 100% who all is going (ie social media) but we'd be happy to talk with you about our products. Hope to see you there.
when are you launching in 2020? I'm ready to buy my first Predator carbon fiber shaft and now I want to wait knowing this. Thanks!
@@jeanstarkey9524 Sorry I haven't put anything up in a while. Between work, family life, and good old procrastination I haven't been keeping up with things. Anyways, I am currently working on a video but it's not a shaft video. I will have probably 3 to 4 videos after the one I am working on which will be on carbon fiber shafts. Since you’re about ready to pull the trigger though I will say this, I have tried the Revo 12.4, the Cyngery 15K, BeCue Prime M 12mm, and used a friends Jacoby Black. Out of all those, I would recommend the Cynergy. I feel it's the best all-around shaft. Don't get me wrong though, the Revo is nice and I like the Prime M's small diameter tip but I keep finding myself going back to the Cynergy. I am still playing around with all 3 and trying different tips to see if it improves things. I will finish with this piece of advice, a carbon fiber shaft is a great LD shaft option but is really expensive and don't expect this to be a miracle piece of equipment that fixes everything. You will have to practice and get used to it to see improvement and at the end of the day some people end up not liking the characteristics of an LD shaft. As for me, I like them and I do think it helps me with the way I play. Good Luck and let me know how it goes!
I played with several and settled on the Jacoby black.
Wow ! Your B-Roll and post production was incredible. Hats off.
Thanks! I wanted to make something a little more entertaining than standing in front of the camera. I have been inspired by people in the tech gear genre as well as people like Peter McKinnon and Matti Haapoja, and Casey Neistat to name a few. I like that it gives me a creative outlet with something I love like pool. Actually, I have been watching your videos too for a while now and I have actually applied some of your stuff to my game. Thanks for watching!
You're knocking it out of the park now too! I've been watching you develop the quality of your videos too Shari! The last year has been great!
Fantastic review! Very much appreciate the perspective of both initial thoughts as well as those once you had an opportunity to truly put it through the paces.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video!
A good honest rundown on the shaft sir. Thank you.
Thanks! I have another shaft review coming out in the next few days. Trying to finish up the editing now. Hopefully, I can stop procrastinating.
I feel a lot of honesty in your analysis. In addition to very well explained. Lucky
Thanks I try to be as upfront as I can. I’m glad you liked the video!
I gave a thumbs up just for mentioning dr Dave.. it's awesome to see guys supporting each other!
Edit: great video btw
Dr. Dave does a really good job on the details. I have never met or spoken with him but I have to give credit where credit is due. Thanks for the like and for watching!
Cool video. I use Kamui brown clear soft too and it’s amazing
Thanks, I am glad you liked it! Nice to hear the Kamui brown clear worked for you. I had problems getting used to it myself but it was definitely better than the Victory tip it came with. I have received some recommendations from some others that I am going to give a try, mainly a Juma pad with a G2 tip. I figure giving that a go and see how it works out. Thanks for watching I really appreciate it!
PLEASE watch all the way through because I give my 8 month thoughts at the very end. Thanks everyone for watching and I hope enjoyed the video! Also for the subscribers out there, thank you for your patience!
Thank you so much for the video, there was so much insight. Personally I went from the 314 with a med tip, to the same shaft going to a medium clear super soft Kamui. Then I tried out both the 12.9 and 12.4mm REVO’s with the standard tips, I personally enjoyed and adjusted to the 12.9 faster and better and prefer it over the 12.4, if you would like to try those two in comparison.
That's good to hear someone else's thoughts on the Revo. Everyone has a unique playing style and personal tastes. I have had some opportunities lately where I was able to try several carbon fiber shafts and I really do like them over the conventional ones. I hope to put out some more videos in the near future on the other shafts. With that said, I appreciate the offer to try the 12.9 Revo however, at this time my plate is going to be full for a while just trying to get some of these new products into videos. I am glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
Very good video, this channel deserves way more views. Keep up the great work!
That is a bunch! I’ve actually subbed to your channel on my private CZcams account. I like how you’re actually doing a hands on review of the different systems the pros use. Going to sub your channel with the Pool Addiction channel as well. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction Thank you, much appreciated! Found your channel last night, really enjoy your content.
I put a thin white Juma pad on the tip of my 12.4 and paired it with a G2 medium and couldn't be happier. It softens the tank sound the revo makes.
Thanks for the recommendation. I will try it out when I get the chance.
I had the same problem with the victory tip. I think it dried out too fast. I had to reshape it constantly to get to better leather. I switch tips regularly so it’s not like it just got old. I love the kamui black super soft personally. Excellent tip.
I just saw your review of the revo. It is very well done. I've never hit a revo and was just about to order one when my friend started to make his own carbon fiber shafts. I hit his prototype, and I loved it! His shafts have a small white ferrule that helps with sighting the cue better. And for me, that was huge. Hopefully predator realizes this element that a lot of "regular" players would like to have and give it to them. But anyway, I'm glad you made this video so I will have some criteria to evaluate my new shaft which should be finished in a few hours. I'll let ya know how it goes.
Thanks for the comment! If you haven’t seen it already, I just put out a cynergy review yesterday and it has the white ferrule and that’s one big reasons why I bought it. In defense of Predator, they have recently started making the Revo with a white vault plate. It’s not as big as a small ferrule but it’s nice to see them listening to their customers. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction I haven't watched it yet. But I picked up my new XLR8 carbon fiber shaft 6 hours ago and I really love it thus far. The hit is only slightly louder than my cue with an ivory ferrule and elk master tip. I'm going to do a video on it sometime this week. Oh, and by the way .. it costs much less than the others. TTYL.
Very very articulate. I ordered the Revo 12.9 mm, with the Joss pin. I love my Joss and ordered it after calling Danny Janes back in 80's. I'm 81, retired 1980 military (USN, USCG, USAF). All I do is shoot pool, basically. One eye out of commission w/AMD last 15 yrs, Lutein
still works. (history, way too long.. & a grounded pvt pilot)
Occasionally run table BCA 8 ball.
At 25, Boston, ran over 100 14.1, with 2 eyes, house stick, Dec '63. Only Mosconi 1st book student..1 time. Key was bridge hand, firm.
If u r still reading... Play 7' tables, long shots worst, but often manage.
* Your review so encouraging. Slickness is my bag, hit-feel important,
seeking to hold cue ball as in my past, noise and tip no problem for me. Bright yellow will work. I would prefer my 62" *Ingram, over std 58", but can handle it. Yep, price sux, but I cant fight that clock, & I keep improving. (I can run like a deer.. but not all that far).
I 'll email down the road .. & be less
VERBOSE.
Thanks Gerald for the feedback. I hope you enjoy the Revo. I am still torn as to which shaft I like playing with nowadays and I hope to put out some videos about what I am currently playing with now. I have always loved trying new equipment which is why I wanted to start this CZcams channel to help others with the decision process since it can be a very expensive hobby, thankfully not expensive as golf though. Also, thank you for your service! I am retired USAF myself.Glad you like the video!
Hi ! You just don't know how much you made my day with such interesting comment. I use to blame my advanced age whenever I would do poorly in a game. I am about a dozen years younger than you are but now I feel very encouraged. I am a music instructor and performer and picked up pool around 2013 and became addicted from the first hit. I fell in love so much with the game that I took lessons just to understand it better. I was fortunately to run into a former pro(J. Garcia) who highly recommends the Revo; Unfortunately I can not currently afford it but sooner or later I will probably pick one up.. Be safe and stay hydrated during this current crisis ..
I have all three of them (12.9 12.4 11.8) and I LOVE the feel of the 12.4 the most. Plus it has a perfect mix of the power of the 12.9 and the cueball action you get from 11.8.
Nice. It’s nice to know others experience is as well as the other versions. I am going to revisit the Revo with a 11.8 I picked up. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Very honest opinions and reviews. I almost had the exact love/hate feeling. But over the time I have been adjusted my aim so apart from the price, I am enjoying basically only pros and no cons from my revo. Of course I would also argue that the price is worthy considering the longevity and consistency of the shaft, as long as you are serious about pool.
It has such low deflection you have to make some adjustments. Over the years, I have had to make those adjustments with other LD shafts and you have to like the way to aim (not having to adjust for shaft deflection). I have heard a lot of gripes from people saying LD shafts suck but I think some people feel their game is better with a regular shaft. Price is still a major issue for most people but I think with all the other competitors out there now I think the price will be coming down a bit. This is a very opinionated subject and I love talking to people about so thanks for the comment, it definitely helps people on this channel to get other thoughts other than just mine.
It does take some commitment to get the best results, I have seen some give up and go back to wood, they don’t know what they are missing
I use a kamui clear SS with my revo. I also add a mini extension with my 9k predator cue, it really acts as a silencer for the ding sound.
Is that a rear or a forward ?extension
I find my Revo 11.8 does come loose quite often. I have added tightening the shaft to my pre-shot routine, as the shaft comes loose often enough to make tightening the shaft mandatory for each shot just like chalking the tip. It is slick, but here in the Philippines the slick shaft is a real plus (high humidity). I have also dropped my cue enough times to make me appreciate the no nicks on the shaft.
Even though this is four years after the initial upload of this video, I really appreciate your review.
I like my Zan hard/medium hybrid tip on my Revo.
Absolutely worth it
I have a Meucci Carbon Pro 12.75 MM shaft. I have been playing with it about one month. At first I also had trouble with thin cut shots. But it is getting better. I love the shaft. I am playing one to two balls better with it than I ever played with my OB Classic shafts. I took the Ultra Skin Ivory Soft off and replaced it with a Kamui Black Soft tip and it plays a lot better.
I have been hearing that a lot of people really like the Kamui Black soft tip on most of the carbon shafts out there. Nice to hear about someone's experience with the Meucci Black shaft. I don't know many players with it at this time. As I said in the video, I have been playing with the Cynergy shaft the last few months and there are differences between Carbon Fiber shafts. The Carbon Fiber shafts just feel really nice. Thanks for watching!
I love my meucci carbon. But 12.75 would be an issue on thin shots for me as well. I got it specifically because it was the only cf thatcoffered 12.25 mm. My lucasi 11.8 was a bit outside my skill over long rail shots, but the 12.5 killed my short rail control in 9ball. The 12.25 really hit the sweet spot and allows me to go back and forth between it and the 11.8 in 8ball
So glad to see you back. Hate it when the wife gets to loud haha
Thanks!
I think a small piece of automotive pin stripe wrapped around the ferrule area might work wonder and hold up pretty good. I did a thin layer of painters tape and it just wears to quick but works nicely. Also you could just add a chunk of white or other colored material between your tip and vault plate?? More you add more deflection it will add. Might get it right where you need it.
Another person was telling me that they put a small Juma ferrule between the vault plate and the tip. I may try that down the road. They also said that they use a G2 Soft tip. I have thought of the tape thing as well, I might try that before the ferrule. Thanks for watching!
I bought the Revo 12.9mm version. I decided on the radial joint version and it came with a soft Kamui Black Clear tip on it. I chose the radial joint version because I have 2 playing cues and a break cue that has that joint, and other cues with different joints. When I use this shaft on my AE cue I get a distinct plinking sound. The shaft diameter and the cue diameter match very well. When I use it on my Samsara cue I never get the plinking sound. But the Samara cue is slightly thinner than the shaft. I don't mind playing with either cue, but I've been using the Samsara because it was easier to change the weight to more heavy. When I try a wood shaft I feel like it is sticky, even though that is what I used to use.
That’s interesting that there’s a difference like that depending on the cue butt. Thanks for the comment, it definitely adds another interesting discussion.
Have 4 Revos, love love!
I have a predator p3 with the 11.8 revo and the kamui super soft clear nothing shoots like it for me. Best stick I’ve ever owned
That's awesome! The 12.4 just wasn't for me but everyone has different things they like when they play and whatever works you should stick with it. I do have an 11.8 Revo to try but haven't started playing with it yet. I figured to see the difference between the 12.4 and the 11.8 and re-visit the Revo technology. Thanks for watching and I hope you like the video!
Awsome video man. I have the 12.4 revo predator I have a request. Can u please make a video on the proper way to shape your tip or do you???? Or scuff to chalk on the revo.
Thanks
I will put it on my list. I did do a Willards tip shaper review where I discuss tip shaping and scuffing but only using the Willards, It does have some general tips though. Also, tip shaping on the Revo isn't really different than a regular shaft. Here is the link for the Willards video. czcams.com/video/m8xDxbgu7UI/video.html. Thanks for watching!
I bought one of the first revo cues, the first thing I did was change the tip to a KAMUI black soft. The victory tips seam mushy and inconsistent and I couldn’t get used to it. Had to drive almost an hour to find someone who knew how to change the tip. Change the tip and enjoy.
I change the tip to Kamui Brown soft a while back but I don't really like that one either. Should've gone with a Kamui Black. You are exactly right though with the Victory tip, I had the same problems! Thanks for watching!
I've played with both the Revo and Cynergy. The Cynergy was by far my favorite due to having a actual ferrel.
I do like the Cynergy over the Revo. In my experience so far, they all do a good job but some just feel better than others. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
I hate the revos taper compared to other cf with traditional pro taper. I run with a muecci carbon pro, but think the cynergy 15k is the best out there. Im excited to see what lucassi brings
Nice video! I shoot with hard tips. I cant stop thinking they have an alterior motive for putting soft tips on all these carbon fiber shafts. Feel is less important to me than easier action, more spin on cue ball. I'm definitely interested but skeptical. Thanks!
Playing with soft tips on a carbon fiber shaft, in my opinion, is the way to go. Make sure not to use a hard tip on a carbon fiber shaft thought, they are meant to be used together. Thanks for watching!
Ha ha, yup. To sell more tips! Plus it reduces the "DINK" sound. 100% agreed on hard tips.
Good video.
I also prefer the cuetec synergy
Purchase revo...after 2 weeks swapped cue tip...still not like ..
Did not notice any more accuracy than my R360 and could not get pass the noise on cue contact. .sold on 4th week.
Loved the cuetec from day one.
Thanks for watching and the comment! I am hoping to put out a Cynergy review soon. I am currently working on a different video but the video after that will be the Cynergy review.
Do u guys think that the tiger sniper has anything to do with that?I have a meucci 11.75 carbon fiber and I hated the tip that came on it.I put the tiger sniper on it and I loved it.
@@jriley7164
As I recalled I replace the tip on the revo with the oneI play with and , still not l liked.,.
That is a good tip from tiger
I simply made a wrap with white electrical tape to emulate a white ferrule. No change in weight, balance and feel. A few folks at the hall have asked me how I managed fo find a Revo with a ferrule. LOL
Try a Kamui hard tip. I had soft and medium tips for years. The difference in accuracy is very noticeable, and they don't flatten out like you described. If you already have a decent playing break cue with a hard tip, try one of those cut shots. I think you may be really surprised. Then imagine that with the added benefit of a low deflection shaft.
In retrospect, it's simple physics. You wouldn't drive a nail using a hammer with a pillow head. Intuition would lead you to believe that a soft tip conforms and bites the ball better, which is "mostly" false. It does bend though, adding to the squirt effect, pushing the ball offline. With extreme outside english your tip ends up looking like this as it strikes the ball:
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And it doesn't deliver the kinetic energy nearly as efficiently.
Most chalks are powders such as fiberglass, which is harder than the porcelain balls. Think of applying 3000 grit sandpaper to your tip to bite the ball. Diamond dust would work really well if it were cheaper lol. But that's what is actually causing the tip to grab. So a harder tip with a nice dime shape keeps it's contour better, delivering more kinetic energy in the "actual" desired direction.
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However, I'm not suggesting a porcelain or phenolic tip either. Lol. Too hard and it won't hold chalk, and won't bite the ball at all. Plus all of your shots would make a terrible "tink" sound. Like chalking a phenolic jump cue. PITA and almost impossible to chalk... But in that same light, think of how efficiently a phenolic tip is able to drive the ball into the table with massive force, from a very small/light cue.
IMSO, something in the low to mid 80's (hardness scale) is ideal. I think most players who use soft tips actually prefer the feeling and soft sound, not realizing the drawbacks.
You would also need to replace your tip FAR less often. I was going through medium tips every few months with very little shaping /pricking. They would flatten or mushroom (which is the worst), and magically shrink/disappear until they were the thickness of a dime. I had an accidental kamui soft install, and it lasted 2mo.... The Kamui hard (same brand) lasts me a year with daily play, and requires very little maint. But best of all, I get better more consistent and more accurate shots.
I hope that helps.
Thanks for the comment. I have always either used a medium or soft tip on my playing cue. I think I may give it a try. I have been playing with Kamui Black Softs for years now and I’ve tried other tips but I keep going back to the Kamui. Thanks for watching!
I’ll try the hard tip, next time
I agree with pretty much everything you said here. I like my Kamui black clear medium tip and it's hardened up a little bit over time so it plays more like a medium/hard tip now. Might switch to a hard tip when this one eventually wears out, it helps chalking the side of the tip kind of roughly to smooth out and counteract mushrooming. Also I dont break with my playing cue, I break with a 22 oz hard rock maple butt and 13.2mm shaft with a Samsara break/jump tip so that might explain why my tip doesn't mushroom out faster. Been using the same one for 4 or 5 months now and might have to replace it soon but as of now it's just fine.
Hi I have 2 revo I am at 540 fargo I like the shaft works well with kamui soft clear it works really well the only thing I find it a bit difficult is on long stun shots its a bit difficult to gauge the speed to play it with sometime I get too little or too much stun compare to the mezz carbon shaft is a lot easier to use the mezz carbon shaft is also a lot smoother to use compare to revo but I still keep the revo just might not play much with it since I be playing with the mezz 😊 thanks for your review
Yeah I had the same issue as well. I haven’t had the opportunity to try a Mezz Ignite yet. I hope to sometime soon. I’ve heard good things about it. Thanks for watching and the comment!
I would love a carbon shaft just cant justify buying one
Daniel Garcia, It is hard to justify and I definitely would say that this investment is not for the beginner or occasional player. I will say though, I really like them and I feel the Cutec Cynergy 15K did improve my game a little but MAN that price tag!!!!! Thanks for watching and for the comment!
I had a Revo didn't like it sold it and bought the cuetec cynergy. Love my my cynergy didn't like the tip that came on it so I put a G2 soft on it. It plays good and hits good. Might want to try that tip. Just my opinion I also sold my BK Rush and bought the Cuetec Breach break cue love it also it shatters the rack.
Thanks for your experience with the Revo. I am currently filming my Cynergy video. I hope to have it out in the next week or so. I really like the Cynergy. Thanks for watching!
I get the same Outstanding Performance and accuracy with my Z shaft as I did yhe Revo 11.8mm. I love the feel of wood compared to Carbon fiber. I am able to move whitey much more efficiently with my Z Shaft. The Deflection difference between the Z and Revo are so close that the Z shadt offers me much more playability options as well as much better feel. That's my opinion on CF
I have heard that from a few others about the Z shaft. I tried one years ago when they first came out and it just wasn't for me. It's nice that the Z shaft works well for you. Some people spend years and a lot of money finding something they like. The Revo wasn't for me either and my favorite CF shaft right now (Mar 22) is the Becue Prime M 12 although, I primarily play with my Hsunami shaft right now. Thanks for your comment and insight. These kinds of comments I think are really helpful not only for me but also for others who may read them. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction Can you tell me a little more? What didn't you like about the Z shaft? I was super confused how a stiff cue could be LD, but I know its Predator quality, I just don't understand and that's fine. But still curious what you thought about the Z. Have you also used the old classic 314?
Been playing for 25 + years. I love Predator cues and just yesterday I FINALLY test hit one. A friend of mine said he loved it due to not warping. Easy to clean and plays good. My other friend said they clean easy and plays good. After hitting a few balls... I was slightly impressed because in the end... You still have to pocket balls... I'm more drawn to the idea of not having it warp and wiping clean after use or leaving it in the car. Would I buy one? Still undecided... They're pricey. Thanks for the review!
I have played with 4 different carbon shaft brands and I love the feel of a carbon fiber shaft....so smooth! The feedback from the hit is good as well. Like any other low deflection shaft, you don't have to compensate for squirt as much as a regular shaft when you aim and some people are just used to compensating and they don't want to change. As far as it helping your game is like with any other piece of equipment, you have to get used to it and sometimes it just doesn't work for your game. The question is, does it help your game enough to warrant the price tag. I'd say it doesn't help enough for most people. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction Thank you. Good review
@@PoolAddiction Good analysis, sometimes people don't want to change... I'd rather not have to adjust...I like the Jacoby btw. Good review.
@@MF-Rell Cool! I think change can be good. I tried a friend's Jacoby but I didn't like it as much as the one I am reviewing right now. I'm filming it now and hope to have it out in the next week/week and a half. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction I'll be watching 🎱
I'm still getting used to my Revo. I find myself losing matches and then switching to my meucci pro shaft and I make a come back.
I do that from time to to time with shafts. The Revo, for me, was a hard adjustment. It was my first CF shaft and that might explain some of it. Thanks for watching!
Just an Idea (Im also thinking of purchasing this shaft, and appreciate your review) have you tried maybe using white electical tape (just a band to see if you can "pretend" the white ferrule. If that works why not just mask things off and get a nice spray paint.... Maybe gold??... Anyway I hope that you continue to play/enjoy the game and look forward to your impressions/updates.
If the Tape works... I would also suggest a Kamui Clear black soft tip.... Im guessing as the shaft is so firm, I would go one hardness down from my usual medium..... Just my thoughts.... :)
A few others have recommended the same thing. I haven't tried them yet because I have been trying other things lately for reviews as well as for myself. I am going to give it a try sometime in the future to see how it works out and I may do a video talking about the solutions others have recommended. Thanks for watching!
It doesn’t matter what you use to stop deflection when striking the cue ball. You can try a carbon steel rod, a carbon fiber shaft or a fence post and as long as you don’t strike the cue ball at the PERFECT center, there will be some deflection! Practice will work much better than a carbon fiber shaft and will provide a much better result at a much lower cost.
Agreed and no where did I say a CF shaft is zero deflection, it's a lower deflection shaft than a normal shaft. Practice always makes perfect but your game is going to adjust to what you practice with whether it is a normal shaft or a LD/CF shaft. This is has been an ongoing debate since LD shafts first came on the scene and everyone has their own strong opinion about them. There are other advantages to CF shafts as well which no warpage and resistant to dings as well as the finish nice and smooth without all the maintenance. I know those things don't make the shaft play any better (and a shaft isn't going to be the magic bullet, it's the person) but it's nice they have those features. Thanks for the comment and I hope you enjoyed the video!
I'm of the camp of thinking, "It's not the arrow; it's the Indian." CF shaft has there uses, but I feel they are more of a crutch. It won't fix bad mechanics. It will be more forgiving for poor mechanics because of the low deflection. In my opinion it is a side benefit of what many engineer shafts were trying to accomplish. Wood shafts have shortcomings because of its inconsistent nature. First were metal shafts, aluminium and someone made a steel one. Not sure if someone tried titanium. Then there were the fiberglass and coated shafts. It then progressed to laminated shafts. Today we have the progression of shaft technology in CF. It is consistent, durable, easy maintenance, and .....Low deflection. Is CF worth the cost? Well, if you're someone who leaves his cues in a hot car, never cleans it, throws it around or lends it out without considerations, then yes. Using one because it's low deflection means you have poor stroke mechanics. Won't matter what cue you use, you will always have poor stroke mechanics. It also means you will have a harder time adjusting to other cues and particularly to those that aren't CF. Cursed. Plus, most people I know who use CF shafts usually use them in combination with gloves. Why is that?! Moisture! So now you have to have additional equipment to use a CF. Though I think the "functional" part of a good shooting cue is the shaft, you can't ignore the butt end. I feel the next cue advancements might come in the form of a modified joint or butt section. There's already cue mid and butt end extensions and pins selections, but I think we'll see something more from an electronic inclusion in the construction of the butt end. Or maybe some sort of internal dampener. Just for giggles, I wanted to make a cue that lit up after hitting the cueball. Annoying, I know, but funny to me. ADD: Why would PRO's use it? My thinking is if it improves your game 5%. If you're like most of us, 5% won't mean much. If you're a PRO, 5% gives you that much more of an edge over some other PRO. It's more useful to you.
Definitely. I find that CF shafts just hits more consistent. More durable too. The declection issue not a big deal. It is more of a practice thing, how you adjust aim with spin. If you are an advaced player, you will probably maximize the equipment better and gain more from using premium equipment. If you give a beginner expensive equipment they will unlikely benefit from it. Master the basics first, then look for the equipment that works for you.
Thanks for the video, good stuff. A couple of things you may want to know about or try with your Revo. I'm on my third CF shaft, 2 of which were Revo 12.9's. The oe victory soft tip sucks, everyone I know who has the Revo changes it out as quick as they can. After 6 or 7 different tips I found the Zan hybrid max, it has a soft feel but awesome durability. Everyone who's tired it loves it.
Here's an easy fix for the ferrule. Tape off an area where the ferrule would be and paint it white with a high quality spray paint. Do 3 light coats, looks great, doesn't affect the deflection and lasts forever.
Over the past couple of years people have started adding tip pads to change the sound or protect the tip area of the shaft. Lots of tips come with a pad so some people have 2 or 3 pads under their tip and don't know it, just one tip pad can double the shaft deflection. Funny thing is it sounds like you might like going that way, the Revo is about stiffness and brute force, the Cynergy is quite flexable and more delicate. Last thing. Many pros put a med or hard tip on their CF shafts. Last info(1/19) on SVB's Cynergy shaft is he's using a hard Kamui brown tip.
Thanks for the comment. I have thought about painting what would be the ferrule area white but don't want to do anything too permanent. I have been playing around with a few things over the last few months and I plan on doing some videos on it soon. I have playing with several different shafts trying to get a feel for the different things out there. I was thinking of trying a Zan premium soft, I have played with one before and thought it was nice. I haven't tried a Zan Hybrid. I will have to keep that in mind. I know the pros like to play with medium and hard tips, mainly because they are so hard on them but I always heard that you want a soft on a CF shaft because of the action you already get with shaft itself. Thanks for watching!
Just stick a piece of white tape on the end of the shaft to create a ferrule effect. That's what I did.
If you give up on shaft I would love to try it out and give another review.
I Haven't given up yet. My plans are to do a comparison of several shafts. After that who knows. Thanks for watching!
You can add a faux Ferrell with a good hi quality white shrink wrap.
That's an idea, I haven't tried that yet. The problem I am finding is with reviewing other shafts, there's only so much time to go back and use the Revo. I just got done doing a Cynergy review and I have been playing with that a lot but now I am switching over to ANOTHER shaft so I can get use to it and give it a review as well. Thank you for the idea and I will have give it a go when I get the chance. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction years ago we would use teflon tape the kind used for wrapping threads on gas equipment . home depot has a tone of it in the plumbing isle cheap.
Hello man i enjoyed your review but i might have a solution to your tip issue. I playing with a 12.4 Revo with a 5 16/18 thread type i have had no issues with the cue coming loose but it does happen from time to time. Now i play in Jr APA im 16 years old also i do a lot of trickshots so switching to a carbon shaft was the best thing i could have done because its more durable. Anyway for the Tip i use a decently priced tip its called Techno Dud its between a Soft and a Medium tip but i got mine installed for about $20 ive had the same tip for about 3 months now and i had to trim it almost immediately but after that i have not had any issues with it.
I highly suggest you try the Techno Dud because it does play really well on the REVO hope you saw this comment let me know what you think.
-Benton
Thanks for the comment Benton! I haven't heard of the Techno Dud tip. I will have took look into it and give it a try. I was thinking of trying a Zan Premium soft but haven't done it yet, been too busy. It's nice to hear from someone from Jr APA, I wish I took pool seriously back then. I didn't start playing competitively until I was 21. Even then I was in and out of it for several years.
I just ordered my first predator. 1/28/24 hopefully.
I hit with the tiger, Jacoby, rouge, defy, meucci, cynergy, koda?, viking and I think becue?
I narrowed it down to defy... But too "soft". Rouge (awesome) and cynergy (long taper lost it for me).
So pechauer and predator felt like the ultimate so it came down to other intangibles. $950 for the pechauer i liked vs $944 for the predator i liked. Negligible. Both have lifetime warranties. All the dealers in my area said that both companies were extraordinary to work with. But predator came through in the end because they hold their resale value, the unilock joint which is much easier to come by than the pechauer joint and I can get the same extension for the cue for $75 less ($170 was insluting, even though most are doing that crap except cuetec and predator).
Except for one guy that traded his predator for a Jacoby and one that traded his for tiger, I can't get anybody in the Central or Eastern Pennsylvania area to bad mouth that Revo shaft. Even my carom playing buddies are enamored of it.
That's awesome that you were able to try all the different options out there. You're right about Predator holding their value, everybody knows them. I haven't used the Revo in a while but at the time I was 100% sold on it. I really liked the Becu shafts and still do. I found when doing these reviews, you're really spltiing hairs when it comes to performance but feel and feedback, which is subjective, is where the main differences are. Thanks for the comment! Comments like this really help out the community.
I played with all CF shafts , but revo 12.4 is the best shaft in the history. Nothing compares to it really. But revo 12.4 is not for beginners it is from intermediate to pro level
Nice table.
Thanks!
I love the predator revo shaft, I haven't shot with a shaft better. No need for a glove.
The Revo was the first CF shaft I tried. I plan to go back and revisit the Revo next year. Since my Revo experience, I got used to a CF shaft and I really like them. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
I was wondering, did you change the tip yourself, or did you send it somewhere?
I had a local cue maker where I live change it for me. Thanks for watching!
I personally couldn’t get used to the Revo. I tried it for 3 months, but it just wasn’t for me personally. With that said, like all billiard products, it’s a preference, because I’m still fine with my 314
CF shafts in general aren't for everyone. I like them but I don't regularly play with one right now. Thanks for the comment and I hope you liked the video!
@@PoolAddiction can you try an S-Tuned Z3?
@@DavidNYC83 I used to have a Z3 a very long time ago and didn't care for it but I was still very new to LD shafts. I will have to see about the S-Tuned Z3 some time and see what I think now.
I also want to say that the z2 shaft was the shit unlike no other when I finally adjusted to it waiting on my 11.8 and IL give you feed back wish I had the room like yours but my girl won't let me take out a wall just trying ro become a top player in league and I am I just know I can do better
The room is just big enough for the 7-footer I have. If you're perpendicular on the rail, I have to use a shorty cue or jack way up. Thanks for watching!
Diamond tables play nice
Yes they do. Absolutely love them but sucks when you get used to them and then play in league or tournament on bad tables. I feel truly blessed though to be able to afford a Diamond table because I know not everyone can. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction I'm going to be APA in summer time, they play on 9' diamond tables. It give and take relationship on a 9' compared to a 7' table
@@alexcollins1630 I like 9 footers as well as Diamonds. That's a challenging combo for APA, most just play on Valley 7 footers.
Can get an 11.8 shaft and also now a white vault if it helps
Do you still prefer the synergy over the revo? I have a synergy and was thinking of going to a revo but I am not sure
Although I mainly play with my Hsunami now, I still prefer the Cynergy over the Revo. I do plan to revisit the Revo down the road in an 11.8 version. Hope you liked the video and thanks for watching!
i have found some of the same issues. I find a wood shaft has a better taper and sound.
With the reviews I have done, I have been getting used to the CF shafts play and sound. I still play with my wood shafts from time to time though. If you ever want to try a CF shaft that sounds more like wood I would recommend Becue. Thanks for the comment and watching!
So I just bought a P3 with the 314 shaft and I find it very difficult to play with compared to a bar action pool cue. Any pointers? Would the color of the shaft or LD be the issue?
The color of the shaft is more to with a personal preference and shouldn't affect you're shooting unless it's subliminal. A 314 shaft is a wood shaft so it shouldn't be any different for you. As far as an LD shaft vs a regular shaft, there is a difference and not everyone likes it. What you are probably experiencing is the adjustment you learn to make when shooting with a cue that has regular deflection. What I mean is you have learned to offset your aiming to make certain shots. An LD shaft enables you to aim more true to the shot. Like I said earlier, not everyone likes it and they're used to making those adjustments. For. me. I prefer an LD shaft. Thanks for the comment and I hope this helps you out.
Is your Revo uniloc? If it is, I have Becue Prime-M 12.0 uniloc that I'm looking to trade for the Revo :)
Sorry, it's a Radial shaft. I pretty much shoot with Radial pin cues. I hope you can find a deal out there. Thanks for watching!
If you get a chance the revo work well with a predator butt I have the brown p3 it fits well the mezz is also the same it playes best with the mezz butt I had a friend with a different brand butt to the mezz but something dosent feell right unfortunately 😌 he since switch to the full mezz but and shaft and it definitely playes well and has a much more solid hit the revo with radial pin is the most closest you get to a solid hit feel but just can't beat mezz joint design its so tight I feel that its crossthreaed sometimes 😬 but its not just just tight fit 😉
Damn it i just bought my dad the revo cause i assumed it was the best shaft on the market didnt know how hard to see the tip was gunna be.. he gets it in a few days i really hope he likes it. Id hate to send it back its for his bday and fathers day gift im stressing he wont like it..
I spent 800 for the whole cue and shaft so i hope my dad loves is..
Some people absolutely love the Revo but it wasn’t for me. I had a hard time being consistent with finesse shots. Where did you buy it from? Pool dawg and seyberts have a 60 day money back no questions asked so you can play with it and return it if you don’t like it.
Does take a while to get used to , like the difference between a dump truck and a Farari
Lol, I like the comparison.
Get the 11.8!
I bought the 11.8 to do a revisit review just haven’t got to it yet. Haven’t even played with it because I want to give an honest first impression.
I just put a elkmaster on mine. The Kamui s just glazes to fast. lasted 3 weeks. meh. Lighter color helps with the sighting as well.
You are right, the lighter color tip does help. I think that may be why Predator used the yellow Victory tip. I haven't used Elkmaster in a while. I change out tips a lot, always trying to find a tip I like better. The one I use the most now a days is a Kamui Black Soft. I like to change tips so often I am thinking of getting my own lathe to change tips and clean shafts.
Only thing I would like is an old style joint instead of the quick release
I hear you. I like a radial or a modified 3/8x10 myself.
@@PoolAddiction Got a Revo carbon fiber for a an old stick, think it was 5/16 x 14 , wish I could get a p3 with the 3/8 joint
What's it like when drawing the cue ball the length of the table?
It does a good job. Check my comparison video part 2. It has a lot of my testing as well as shot examples. Here is the link czcams.com/video/XGg9q8I8zKA/video.html
Have you ever played with the McDermott I3 shaft it costs about $340 it's a low deflection shaft I'm a beginning to intermediate player I'm waiting for it to come in the mail
I haven't played with an I3. I have a few friends that uses or have used one regularly and like it a lot. I hope you like it, thanks for watching!
A very good review of the shaft pool is so mental that any doubt in equipment can cause a problem with your game as for me Rick Howard made a shaft or me I would not trade for any Preator shaft and I believe deflection is more mental than a real problem it is sales hype to sell garbage material for shafts but IMHO so very good review
You're absolutely right with regards to the mental side of the game. You do have to change your aim and alignment with a shaft that has different deflection characteristics but the mental side of it has a lot to do with as well. When I was using the Revo, no matter how much I felt I was trying to align myself and aim differently (trying to adjust to the less deflection of the shaft) I was consistently hitting the same area of the rail with the object ball. I honestly think it's in my head at this point. Everybody is different whether it's pre-shot routine, pattern play, aim, alignment, feel, and what they tend to prefer to make them comfortable so it's always going to be differences in opinion on who likes what, if that all makes sense. At the end of the day if you found something that works for your game stick with it! Thanks for watching and the comment, I enjoy hearing from everyone on their thoughts and experiences. It helps to learn from others.
I have the Meucci carbon fiber and does have a white and I do not get a sound with a hit. It sounds almost just like wood and feels like butter 🤣
I have some audio of hits on the video that is premiering today. It's the comparison video part 2. It has HXT, Revo, Cynergy, and Prime M. Hopefully I can get my hands on the Meucci before too long. Thanks for watching!
I do a somewhat review of it basically it's just a video of the way it looks
So how does it compare to the Hsunami 2.0 DR or the JFlowers SMO?
I have not tried the SMO, the J.Flowers I had was the older version. The 2.0 DR is really nice, I'd say they are both close in characteristics except when it comes to the amount of spin transfer a CF shaft produces. The 2.0 DR can get the same amount of spin transfer but you have to put a little more into it when compared to a CF shaft, but that goes for any CF shaft. For me, I like the hit, feedback, and feel of the 2.0DR better (more like wood obviously). The deflection comparison is negligible.
I am 70 years old and off and on I played pool. I once owned a Mc Dermott about 30 years ago it cost $295. I’m thinking about playing more because I need to be more active because I just retired.
I’m thinking of several brands, I believe having my own Cue. What would be a decent Stick to purchase? I miss more shots then I make and I am hoping with practicing and my personal Cur, it could help me.
Thanks
I don’t think you need something that costs a lot and I wouldn’t recommend a carbon fiber shaft right away. Depending on how much you want to spend can depend which brand is good. If I went off of $300 like what you had 30 years ago, I’d say maybe Lucasi. If you wanted to a bare bones model a Mezz, Predator, or Joss might have one in that price range. Out of the three, I’d go with the Mezz.
@@PoolAddiction I walked into a store run owned by an old timer, he knew the people that ran the pool hall where I bought my last Cue Stick from (211 Union Street, Seattle). I ended up buying a stick that felt great in my hands, and it has a leather handle. It’s the Mc Dermott 327. It’s a few hundred more than I thought I would spend, and looks completely different from the colors I had in mind, overall it’s brown.
Seems like a lot of places that have pool tables around me open for business close to 3 PM. 2 I’ve found feature a Happy Hour for three hours. These run from $12.00 to $5.00. Thanks for your help, now I am watching videos on how to improve my shooting. It gets me out of the house, usually I play for 1.5 hours. Right now I’m just trying to make shots, practicing some draw and follow through.
Does the carbon fiber shaft create a roll after a long period of time or temperature changes? If that makes sense.. thank you
Do you mean does it warp over time? I haven't heard or experienced carbon fiber shafts warping. They are very durable shafts and have very different characteristics than a standard wood shaft. Temperature changes don't have any effect on them either. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Pool Addiction yes I meant wrap. Thanks for the reply
Is that a 7foot Diamond with League cut 4.75 pockets?
They pro-cut and I believe they are 4.5. Thanks for watching!
What was the weight of 12.4 radial my 12.9 is 4.175oz.
Weighed it and it's 3.9oz. Thanks for watching!
You did get a soft tip, right? Perhaps that explains the needed work on the tip?
Predator sells them with the Victory soft tip. Of course you can have them change the tip to what you want however, the Victory soft is what they recommend. I normally play with soft tips and some soft tips are higher maintenance than others and the Victory tip, in my opinion, is one that requires a lot of maintenance. For me I like a tip that I don't have re-shape it every time I play. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction I have a Players cue with a 'slightly' harder tip than I would prefer for draw shots. But it was a retirement gift (I think @$150) and I do not want to mess with changing the tip for the small amount of pool I now play. (One night weekly). Nice cue. Certainly good enough for my skill level.
If the revo shaft accidentally drop from the pool table , would it warped ? , tks
All CF shafts a really durable and don’t ding, warp, or break easily. It all depends on how the shaft falls if it would damage it but, in my opinion, it should hold up well. Hope that’s help you. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Hey, I am looking for another pool shaft!!! I have a predator with a 314 shaft so I was wondering is it worth getting the new shaft!!!
I would recommend to try several of them out before spending that much money. Some just don’t like CF shafts and they all play a little different. The Revo is a nice shaft but it didn’t fit the I play. What I mean by that is, in my opinion, everyone has a natural way they aim and that’s where some people will naturally comfort with a zero deflection or may prefer a little less deflection. You can adjust for this but for me, if I can get as close to where I feel the most natural the better. The Revo is very low deflection shaft and it was nice but it just wasn’t for me. I’ve been lucky and was able to try several shafts. I will tell you that you will a good difference between your 314 and the Revo when comes to deflection. If you don’t want that much deflection then the Cynergy might be.a better choice. It’s a big investment when buying a CF shaft and it’s not magic pill but with practice with it, I feel it can improve your game.
@@PoolAddiction ok thx my man, my dad has a z2 and a revo so I will see about trying them and see which one i like
Try a g2 tip on it
Yeah, Dave Murrell mentioned using a G2 with a Juma pad. I am going to have to try that. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
How much does the cuetec shaft cost? Comparable to the Revo?
The Cynergy is around $399 compared to the Revo which is around $499.
Is your revo 12.4 still available? Maybe i can buy it iy you’ll let it go? Im dickerson by the way from the Philippines?
I am going to hang onto it for now. I have a video in the future I am going to use it for. Here is a teaser for you and this first time I am mentioning it, I have 3 popular carbon fiber shafts that I will be comparing in a video. Thanks for watching!
Pool Addiction alright and if you’re gonna let go of you revo 12.4 please let me know, thanks
I make a cue that can match or out perform some of the top brands
Nothing against production cues but I stop using them years ago. Partly out of what I wanted but also I wanted a more fine-tuned performance. Don't get me wrong, they can make some really nice cues but there's something about a custom handmade cue. The only thing I use from production cue makers nowadays is their shafts. I currently play with a Nitti cue and it's my third by him. I still have 2 of them but the other was damaged beyond repair. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction i don't make production cues i make each one with hand tools
@@troytheriot8679 Sorry I didn't mean to say that you make production cues. I assumed you are a custom cuemaker. What I classify as production are ones that are mass-produced by machine.
@@PoolAddiction i also hand balance them without using weights according to players stance,grip and arm postion
Go Gators! ^^
Go Gators!
It's a soft tip so of course it's going to flatten out faster and need more work.
Totally agree but it was more maintenance than other soft tips I have played with. Hope you liked the video and thanks for watching!
Have you tried one with the white tip/pad yet? Just curious
Not yet, but I hope to sometime. I hope you liked the video and thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction just found your videos today. Very honest and your newer videos editing has gotten even better! Thanks for keeping us informed!
I noticed your gator gear, are you in Gainesville FL by chance?
Not from Gainesville, Pensacola originally. I don't live in Florida anymore but I am still a die hard Gator fan.
@@PoolAddiction Born and raised in Fort Walton Beach myself, Gainesville resident now. Glad I found your channel. :) Keep it up!
Never been a fan of predator shafts; revo or otherwise; just think they are over marketed and the playability between two of the exact same shafts can vary remarkably. As far as the cost is concerned you have to look at it as an investment and whether it’s worth it or not depends on how often and how much you play.
Very good points about determining whether it’s worth it or not. I do think the carbon fiber shafts do play differently than wood and some just don’t like it. The different carbon fiber brands play differently and in some cases drastically different. With low deflection wood shaft brands, there was a little bit of difference but it’s a lot more difference between carbon fiber shafts. I haven’t been able to see if there’s a difference between identical carbon fiber shafts though. That might be a really good thing to test out sometime. Thanks for the comment, I really enjoy discussing these ideas.
I like very low deflection shafts that are very stiff; my work horse cue is a Maraposa with an Ed Young shaft; my favorite cue is a Custom Cog made from orange co co bola with a birds eye maple handle and silver rings. Thanks for sharing your info I’m sure it will benefit a lot of people who are thinking about making the switch
Those are some nice cues!
@@PoolAddiction
Joey Gold is a friend of mine but I honestly believe he is the best custom cue maker in the US; I don’t think anybody comes close to the amount of time he ages his wood; his finishes or his detail work with woods and metals. Whenever someone gives me a custom cue the first thing I check is the finish. I have seen Cogs that are 25 years old and the finish is still smooth as glass. The problem is you have to have a pretty smooth stroke to play with a cog because if you don’t it will magnify every flaw.
Put kamuie tips on mine, clear black
Kamui is a good option.
Did that too!
is that 7 or 8 foot table?
It's a 7 foot. I have to jack up a little bit on perpendicular shots that are on the rail against the back wall so any bigger table will not work with my current room. I really would like a 9 foot but my room isn't big enough. Thanks for watching!
Please play a 9 ball game with this shaft
Most one-piece cues provide better feel and control than the high-priced gimmicky models such as the Revo. But pool players continues to fall for the marketing hype that using a fancy schmancy cue will improve their game.
This is a long debate throughout the years, when I first got into pool it was the LD shafts and they are snake oil. Now it the CF shafts. As I say in most of my videos everyone's game is different and people like different things. It's like in all sports like golf for instance, some people like a flex golf shaft, other stiff or steel......everybody is different. In pool you one-piece or two-piece, weight, length, joint type, tip diameter, tip type/brand, and I can go on and on but in the end, people need to find what works for them. As for me, I play with the Cynergy now and I notice a difference. It's more of what makes you most comfortable so you can concentrate on the shot or game itself, it's not going to magically make you play better but it may help you enhance your game. There's a guy on AZ billiards forums (Mustardeer) that put it rather well when he said and I am paraphrasing, The CF shaft is like a new pair of basketball shoes, sure it helps you because they are new and have better grip or whatever but it's the player that makes them great not the shoes on their feet. I would be curious to see if the old greats like Mosconi and Caras would think if they tried any of the new gear out there, chances are they wouldn't like them because their game is already built around the tried and true pool equipment......but maybe not, we will never know. Thank you for the comment and I hope you enjoyed the content!
The cynergy 15k is the best out there. My meucci is nice but the maple core bugs me. I like my cues light. I just started cuesmithing and am waiting on some cf blanks i am going to fill with marine foam.
Hey hey, were you interested in selling the Revo?
Sorry Dustin I am going to hang onto it for now. I have a couple videos in mind in which I plan on using.
Bought a 12.9 revo about 1.5 years ago and will never use wood again.
I love carbon fiber shafts. I’m looking forward to trying the 11.8 Revo when I get a chance. Thanks for watching!
why are all of the links to the Revo only include the shaft? I want the butt to come with it...
The review was for the shaft only. I did not review the Predator butt, sorry. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction No worries. It's just I can't find the butt + cue for sale... just the cue when doing searches. Frustration is more with the sellers than your review. Thanks!
@@ThiccEagle Try this link. It's a listing of all products Predator Revo. Hopefully you can find what you're looking for. I feel your frustration from time to time as well. www.pooldawg.com/nsearch/?q=predator+revo
Why are you playing 9 ball but just shooting anything you want instead of correct sequential 9 ball?
I wasn't playing strictly 9 ball. I usually have the 9 balls on my table because that is what I mostly play, however I was using the balls to just shoot around and try different shots and see how the shaft reacted to them not to necessarily play position play.
The greatest player ever never used these cues or shafts.Efren Reyes
He is the GOAT.
Efren won his first major tournament with a $15 cue he picked up in Taiwan. The commentators didn’t sound amused when they discussed this. Given his world class three cushion billiards background I’m not surprised he never used a low deflection cue. Having said that I use a 11.75mm Z2 (almost 20 years old) and just purchased a Revo 11.8mm. I’m hoping a for the same deflection (according to Dr Dave), but most of all a smooth shaft impervious to dings unlike the Z2.
in Usa 499 USD (430 Euro) in Italy 570 Euro (650 USD)
Wow! I didn’t realize it was that much more in Europe. That’s crazy it’s that much more.
What butt are you using? I just got the 11.8 Revo and don't have a butt. Did not realize I bought only a shaft. Need a radial Butt :/ Amateur mistake I know.
I have a custom Chris Nitti. Some of the Predator cues are radial and most all Jacoby’s are radial as well. Those the 2 off or the top of my head that I know are radial and might be able to find a deal on.
How is the 11.8 holding up? Better than the 12.4/12.9?
White narrow tape on end looks like a Ferrel. Problem solved
I've been playing with another shaft lately but I am going to go back to the Revo and give this a try. Thanks for watching!
the Tiger Products Fortis CF shafts take the cake. They dont vibrate half as much as the Revo does and dont throw the ball hard on max bottom left or right english shots like the Revo does. Predator has a monopoly and they have great marketing so people automatically think the Revo is some special shaft, but its really not. If you like a shaft that feels hollow and vibrates a ton, then the Revo is for you! If you want a CF shaft that has a solid hit, minimal vibration and amazing control then get the Tiger Fortis CF shaft. PLUS its American made and sold so you wont be giving your money to communist China.
You are absolutely right about Predator's marketing. I love what they are doing for the industry though with the Predator tour and trying to get pool more recognition. The game has had a long decline since the early 2000s and I really hope it makes a comeback. I need to check out the Tiger Fortis. I learned about it earlier this year but haven't done much research on it. I used to have one of their wood LD shafts about 8-10 years ago and it wasn't bad. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
What cue do you use? Looks like a shön
It's a Chris Nitti.
I listened to the entire video and this is what I get from your assessment of the Revo shaft. You sound like you wanted so much to like the shaft. But, deep down inside, you know that it's actually not worth the money. You bought $500 worth of aggravation. You sound disappointed on your purchase.
Thanks for saving me a couple of bucks. Subscribed.
Some people really like the Revo but for me, for $500 I didn’t like it enough. I’ve tried several CF shafts now and they’re nice. My main shaft happens to be CF, just not a Revo. I would definitely say try before you buy if you can. Thanks for the sub and I’m glad you liked video!