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How to easily and effectively take apart armatures for copper.
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2022
- Hello scrappers and planet lovers. In this video, I will show you how to take apart an armature for a great score of copper and zero waste. I have had some people comment that they pass up vacuum cleaners now because the field windings are aluminum. However, the great thing about armatures is that they are always copper. I will show you how to easily and effectively identify and separate the metals in order to help maximize your profit and divert this entire piece from the landfill.
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Lag bolts, lock washers, and nuts. Game over. Lots of work but good job Tinny !
That is a GREAT THING to thank your dad. I'm glad that I have invested in a Stripmeister e250 for the extention wire, not just for the !#1 but also for the #2 wire extention cord wire. Yes, I bless the Kanook bastage who made that creation.
Kid, keep on the scrapping!!
Blessings from a state once called California now Sodomfornia, where in a state that everyone gets screwed!
What a timely video! I have a bucket full of these, and I have sold them as motors in the past. I will change it up and follow your Dad's method......thanks Dad!
Another awesome video, Tin Man! A HUGE THANK YOU to both you and your father for not only finding the secret to dissecting the armatures, but sharing it! Keep up the great work! Can't wait until I find my next motor so I can take it apart!
Hey Tin Man. First time watching. Great job on the video and demonstration. That ring is called a commutator and it’s what the brushes contact to make the motor run. I know you’re not fixing’em so it might not seem important, but it’s helpful to have a working knowledge of what you’re scrapping so you can plan your jobs, just as a general principle. I leave stuff like that as-is and just toss it in a bucket of teeny copper bearing items. My yard calls it breakage and they don’t give a heck of a lot for it, but 100lbs adds up quick. It’s easy to get upside down timewise taking fiddly things apart for so little return. Great channel. I know how I’ll be spending my evening!
Thank you for the comment and for watching. Yeah, I don’t spend a lot of time on these either if I begin and they are stubborn. I too throw them in a bucket and they do add up quickly as you said. Thanks again. Stay well and happy scrapping
Your vise grip is screaming "please tighten me to the table!" Lol great video man it's unbelievable how much good metals are thrown away.
Thanks 👍lol, it keeps coming undone
Thanks learned something new today how to get the copper out faster. Saves time and time is money when scrapping.
Fantasticly informative! Thank you for showing how it's done.
Great Video! I've been saving these for years trying to figure out a way to get the copper out easily. Thanks Tin Man! I got a lot #2 to add my bucket now!
I think most people don't want to spend the time it takes to do this... But I always try to do as much micro scrapping as possible. For 1 small motor... Not worth the time, but if you save them up and have 20+ you can make up for the time. Just do them all 1 step at a time: remove all the rods, cut all the tops... And so forth. Use a bucket or old oven pan to collect any fine copper dust.
Absolutely the easiest technique I've seen! Glad I've saved a bucket full of these! Thanks for another great video. You da man!
I hate to throw things away. Your video shows me how to save at least something of value before it goes to the county dump. Thanks so much for taking the time to video the details.
Thank you for showing this now as I'm in the process of doing these this weekend.
Hello TinMan,, Sweden here again and scrapping still rocks.
That was a neat little trick, I have to try it as I have a bunch of them in the garage. I no longer cut open sealed units, just drill a hole and drain the oil and get electric motor price and that is good enough as they are heavy. Sometimes I get 25-30 of them in a month.
Scrapyards here also doesnt take burnt copper wire, unless it's from a house fire or burnt car,, the yard checks it up.
You really should have more views. Your content is very good and thorough.
yeah, but it took 5 minutes out of 11 to get to the point. then another minute to get started. I understand why the views are low.
Thank You. I had the same idea of saving those Armatures. Then I realized I would be grinding away alot of Copper. I already grinder off the Steel rod short. Didn't realize that it punches out. Now it's the matter of the item that wraps around the Copper. I am not selling it for fifteen cents a pound!
You have shown me a technique I have never seen before. 💣🔥
Great idea. I've been using tin snips to cut one end b4 I push the winding out the other end. It works but not ideal for large batches like you do
Thank you so much for this video! I learned a lot and will no longer throw these in the copper bearing motor pile :)
Glad I could help. I will say I have come across a few stubborn ones and if I can’t hit the steel pole out I will throw it in the copper bearing motor pile
Thanks for your video, I always learn something from you. I don't like to be wasteful when it comes to copper.
Nor doI given the price. Thanks for the comment. Stay well and happy scrapping.
Awesome thank you glad I kept these, I knew eventually someone would know how you can recycle them efficiently
me too.
Thank you very much. I'm going to share this with my son. Good stuff. I've been usually just throwing them in the shred bin but not anymore. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
Glad it was helpful!
Thankyou great video been trying to work out how to remove that copper now i know thankyou
Hey, thank for showing how to do that. I have a bucket full and always forget to bring them in. Now I have a new winter project!
I'm glad you finally ground the little lip off the front of the vice. So much quieter now... LOL.
great vid, i have been trying to scrap these,, this way will save a lot of time,, and Dude bolt that vise down!!! place it so the back jaw is one inch or so over hanging the edge of the table,,so you can put long items in the vise..thanks again.
Great video was wondering how to clean these without burning them. Thanks so much for sharing this.
great video and the first time I've seen a way to remove this winded copper
thank you for the compliment and comment. Stay well.
A good vise is a scrap man's best friend.
I use it all the time. I need to change the bolts to make it tighter to the bench. But yes, I love my vise
Please note it does not matter if copper crown is top or bottom. If the steel tube is not coming out you may need to first smash the crown. There can be a serious amount of glue holding the windings to the crown.
How do you handle the armature that has a serious amount of glue, as you put it?
Have you ever looked at the time versus the return? Seems like a bunch of work unless you are just maximizing your winter time. Guess I am a little spoiled here in FL
you really are Superman!!
Lol, no, just another scrapper. Thanks for the comment. Glad you enjoyed the video. Stay well
Always looking for all sizes of motors. Copper rules.😎😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
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I dug it. Thx for sharing the info. This will help me in my future refining projects. 😊
Glad it was helpful! Stay well and happy scrapping
Like that technique Tin man thanks
I always wondered how to take that center rod out, now I know. I would just scrap it as a whole piece. Not no more. Thanks for the info.
Glad you found it informative.
Thanks for that I have got 100s of them and never know how to take them apart thanks tin man
Greetings from London, Ontario! Cheers! :)
you sir are a star, i have learnt some tricks----thanks
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for the comment and support. Stay well and happy scrapping.
Ty soo much that was very helpful 😂.
Thanks for watching. Glad you found it informative.
Great video thank you for sharing that
Great video. One thing that rubberized ring is actually powered iron with a bonding agent if I'm right. Do a magnet test and the copper ends I believe are brass. But again great video and I will try this out soon
Bonding agent most likely is an epoxy resin.
Hello fellow rapper dig that crazy beat BRO !
Thank you for the tip! I was always wondering how to get them apart! I probably have 1000 or more of those in a barrel I have been saving for years. Always say someday I'll get to them 😂. I like tearing A/C's apart! I get alot of copper out of those! Thanks for great video,👍❤️ You got new sub
yup, things add up quickly.
Thank you. Very helpful
Thanks
Thank you, man!
Great vid ,glad I watched it ,been wondering what to do with the stators, now thanks to u I dont have to wonder no more!
the rotors... not stators, which are the stationary field windings.
Great video
excellent, got buckets of these things, big and small. just waiting for the right instructions. another tip (from another scrapper) is to save those broken screw drivers, cut the broken ends off evenly and you have a nice set of punches.
The only screwdrivers that last are tang through ones- they're meant to be hit.
@@rossbrumby1957 thanks, scrappers are really hard on screw drivers and most are now composite steel/metal, junk, you can't abuse them at all.
Thanks for posting. I was wondering the best way to do that.
Glad to help. I do have another video on the topic for stubborn ones.
Good info ty Frank from Las Vegas
Thank you. Stay well and happy scrapping.
Super 👍
Does the profit from copper cover the cost of buying and using the cutting disc? These discs are small and wear out quickly.
I buy 50 for $12 dollars Cdn. and I did 5 with a new blade and still has lots of use. Copper cutting does not waste a lot of the cutting blade.
If they wear out fast, you're probably using the grinder wrong. Cutting the direction the grinder wants to drag you saves discs, so does not pushing heavily. He plunged that grinder in hard, slowing it several times- not to mention using it upside down. And poor control ended up with the copper end not cut cleanly off. Done right, you'd only see steel with copper spots to punch out easily instead of the ground up mess he left.
Also great video I’m gonna try this myself
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I'm glad I subscribed to your channel ive learned alot from you
Thanks for the video. I have been wandering how to get to the copper. I just don't have a grinder to cut the ends off
Thank You, bro for the interesting video. 😊
Glad you found it interesting. Thanks for watching. Stay well.
I just watched a video where the guy cut it in half and pulling the copper out was easy. He used a blade and hammer to cut it in half. He cut it right in the middle of the armature.
Thanks Tin Man and Tin Man's Dad
Good day Interesting. Thanks
I live in London
Ontario
Remember the curly cords on your house phone. I knew a guy who would strip them for the copper inside. That wire is as thin as your hair. 50 cords might yield you an ounce of copper. Salvage is one thing, but that is a waste of time. He would also remove the tongue from a pop can before taking the can in for deposit. He claimed they would not notice the tongue missing and he could sell them separately. Imagine how many of those pop can tongues you would need to make a pound of aluminum.
yeah, there are wires I will not strip.
I get eighty cents a kilo for the small wires. I just cut off the ends to get a better price, in Austraya.
Please take 15 min. to secure your vise with 4 bolts, lock/plate washers and nuts. Pounding on top of the jaws will break out the bolts that hold the jaw in....eventually. Don't ask me how I know! I just add those to my copper bearing motor pile.
Compressors are usually overlooked as well because people don't want to mess with the oil, but if you drill a hole and leave them to drain into a bucket... Most of the oil will drain out and you can collect some SS as a side benefit.
Yup, I actually do that in my scrapping compressors video. Love the copper from these things.
Lately I've been seeing scrappers cut the windings in half with a machete. Removing the center rod like you do would enable the armature to be cut in half as well.
After watching him I had to go do a nother line
I never knew these were so easy to take apart. Have you come up with any tips or tricks to remove the copper from the donuts that you sometimes find in speakers?
If you use care the magnets in speakers can be removed from the cone base in speakers. Copper falling out will be then secondary positives. Magnets are a neat collection value item I hear from those scrapping them from hard drives. Schools pay money for them so students hands on experiences using magnets are the primary buyers of magnets short of paying the more prices at like a science book store for a magnet for use in school projects.
Thank you so much will defnite do your way
I tried removing copper from a small armature. It was coated with enamel. Too difficult and messy. I did get nice copper from the field coil though.
I don’t grab vacuumes anymore just because only way I’ve figured out to get them open effectively is destroying them with a hand sledge hammer and sometimes it don’t even work but I’ll still snip the cord
Looks safe enough
Bro are you really need to do after burning the wax or plastic casing off a copper is still in the vinegar while it's still red hot and the copper comes out clean
Using this today
Ypu shpuld get a hydrolic press. It would probably reduce your work time by 20x
the copper dust can be separated from the steel dust by magnet and also be sold with the #2, Dont throw it away
You are right. I always have a catch basin that collects the dust and I too throw it in #2 copper
I see after months you still haven't learned how to tighten the bolts down on the vise.
Vice ........x
@@roberthowkins3097vise!
A vise is not an anvil.
THANKS
Good video
You should turn the bench around and stand behind it, so you are facing the camera and we are not looking at your back. Thanks for the videos!
Thanks for the tip.
What a goofball! Super tool😊
woowwww thanks 4 the tips🤘🤘
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching.
Well Done
Hey tin man. What would you classify orange flex circuits? The things on circuit boards usually in cpus.
How do I salvage the copper to use in jewelry making without it being in ti y pieces? Great video, thank you. I'm just getting into motors for scrap.
Unfortunately it is going to be very thin stands. You will get longer ones once you cut the top off and get the strands going down the metal cylinder.
Needed that. 🐎🌻✌️
What makes aluminum windings undesirable when it comes to scrapping
On that copper commutator the insulation between the copper bars is usually mica which is an insulator. They may have changed over the years but what ever insulator they use it has to be able to withstand a lot of heat.
Thanks for the info.
Safety glasses and 8# Sledge hammer, or the sharp side of a peen.... and those laminated plates around MOST motors should separate in one swing. Takes longer to pick up the pieces. Good luck and I'll second the... tighten the hell out of that vice and it'll make your life so much easier but definitely appreciate the video.
Great tips. Proper words ....... Copper crown = commutator. Tube / bar / rod = spindle or axel . You mentioned TIN being there as a Metallurgist I don't know of any TIN being present.... perhaps you mean SOLDER ( not sod-er as it is wrongly pronounced in the USA ...there is an L there)
The shell will be classified as tin at a yard because it is a whole bunch of thin plates stacked together and at a scrapyard all magnetic metal under 1/4 classified as tin or shred, unless magnetic stainless steel.
nice vid!
Wish I saw this sooner! What is the grinder wheel you are using? I was smashing of the copper and cutting in-between the tin weight metal and using a hack saw and then channelok pliers and ripping the copper out then finally smashed the 1/4 prepared steel. what's and where can I get that style or name would greatly be appreciated. Thank you. Josh, out of carbon county, Pennsylvania. USA Thank you
using a metal cut off disc.
Word of the day is: ACTUALLY
Wood chisel the first side off ( at the 7 min. mark), you lose copper, and use elec. every time you grind.
yup, but cutting with side cutters wears out your wrists. There are pros and cons to all methods.
Let the blade do the work buddy.
Ive seen this other guy use a machete to cut the center, now just how practical that is I don't know and if u ever have tried that ?
I have never done that yet. However, even if you cut the armature in half you still need to loosen the glue at the top and bottom of the windings to help extract the copper.
I dropped a handful of pennies in my septic tank if you want them.
Great video. Do you have one on how to get copper from a refrigerator motor. I'll check your site to see but if you don't have any can you please make one. Again thank you for sharing this great video
The motors are compressors. I do have a video on them. Check out “scrapping compressors for copper”
Is this worth the extra time when you can just sell the motor as is? I forget what the rate is for a motor, but is it worth the time to disassemble the motor??
Not all. I will only do the ones that have large groves to slide the copper windings through. If interested, check out my other video in armature called “are armatures worth taking apart”