Why Playing PoE for 6+ Years Doesn't Make You a Good Player
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00:00 How long have you played Path of Exile?
01:05 How Long it Takes to No Longer Be a Noob
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Meta is fine and all but trying to make your own build work and actually succeeding is so worth it!
You really are everywhere. BTW, thanks for your content too!😊
i play poe before even leagues existed and its not just learning new things. i keep forgetting stuff constantly. There are times i would redo same build 3 times learning interactions once again to make it better.
failing 30 rebuilds on standard to have one good one: my jam
yooo
I've been playing off and on since basically the beta and I'm AWFUL at this game. I take 18 to 24 hours to get thru the acts, I pick up every single rare to sell or do the chaos recipe, since its my only way to make any currency. i have never crafted a single item - i dont even know where to begin with that. I've gotten to red maps twice, once victor's mage skeleton guide and once with phox RF jugg. Never seen a boss, don't know how to even get to one.
So yeah, im bad, lol.
Keep on learning fellow exile, you will have multiple epiphanies along the way.
Dont worry I am kinda similiar. Good old times when gemcutter prisms were the gold standard.
Actually it might be the reason why we are bad. The game was vastly different to what it is now. Nowadays speed is king and you get a loot filter that hides everything less than chaos orb (I guess its divine orb now?). But I am used to playing the game slowly, to being overinvested in defense because desync (who remembers that lol), to trade ITEM FOR ITEM on the forums, to itemisation being completely different (uniques being stronger than most rares), to character progression being different (you used to have most power from skilltree and skill gems, now rare items are the king). We also had very hard time to learn crafting, because it used to be prohibitively expensive (without the crafting bench). I personally have 0 idea how to craft nowadays because I have never tried it, because i remember it being so expensive.
Maybe its my shortcoming that Im bad at adapting to the new game, but whatever, I dont play anymore. I grasp basic game mechanics pretty good but I cant be arsed to learn secret league farming strats from discord and play in this hyper efficient way that makes you a "good" poe player.
(However if you really clench your butt you should be able to get to maps in 10 hours, I just hate being low level so much that I had to learn it, lol)
Since the past few leagues I pre plan a build and push it as far as I can. Currently killed the feared 3/4 leagues so far on a self made build. This is what I live for, making fun builds for myself. Thinking of vigilant strike jugg or flicker self bleed/chill jugg next league unless some new whacky skill comes out.. or interesting reworks.
5 years playing and the maximum ammount of divines/exalts I had at any point was 21
to wich I used to make the worst coc ice spear possible
Wtf man I've played a solid 5 years and had multi drops of items worth 10-20-50+ div. You got some back luck or bad build?
@@FubzyMC bad luck mostly, my mostly valuable drop was a 249% widowhail that I sold for 4 div
if you count cards my most valuable was a seven years
This is my first league and Affliction gives so much that if count all my loot i have loot since i start at least 1000 Div ( i started 2 week late into the league)
Loved your video, just discovered you and subscribed! Man your fps is struggling (looking at the captures), think you need a new computer at some point? 😉💙
I played more than 6 years and I wasn't even aware of the Item Mod you have mentioned 1st.
Was able to do some stuff except uber bosses and conquerors in the Siege of the Atlas due to work and only cap to 20+ divines for a league and I can't get any higher. But to my defense, I never played meta stuffs. I do void sphere, decay support chain lightning, witchhunter's judgement ignite, etc. It's just so much fun doing your own thing despite me not completing pinnacle end game stuffs.
The feeling of always having new things to learn and the difficulty are the 2 main reasons i keep having fun with it. That's why i love HC SSF Ruthless, cause it's very hard and you have to create exotic builds with what you find to succeed. And man... the joy and excitement when you find a build enabling support !
I have never used a build guide since starting in legacy league. Lots of my builds fail and feel bad but there have been some super off meta builds I’ve made and ended up great. Example: bleed explosive arrow
2600 Hours and I’ve never killed Shaper or Uber elder. Let that sink in. All my hours were on HC so the vast majority was me dying endlessly and leveling in campaign. Lately I’ve been playing soft core friend found (no trade, just among friends) and I still haven’t done it. I get bored before the late game bosses.
less than 4% of steams player base has killed 1 if any end game boss, fun fact
Took me 3 years too realise those different coloured pantheon mods weren't all included but just selecting said pantheon.
I spent my Saturday playing the event and got to act 6. Meanwhile, on my other monitor I had an edited half-hour video play of a CZcamsr finishing acts in the same event.
Made me want to stop playing.
I play PoE on and off since official release in 2013, and I still spend at least 12h-15h on campain on every character I make 😂😂😂
Yikes, how? Legit how? even on my first league witch was delirium i did it in 9 hours
@@franciscoamaral103 I don't know man, I think I'm super slow. When I do an entire act in 1 hour It feels pretty fast already for me hahaha
@@TheBrunoAM a lot of people enjoy the first acts of the game before maps, its like diablo
Two minutes in and my mind is still blown about the fact you can switch that temple mod.
I knew I could switch resistances with the harvest bench but I never connected that to the temple mod.
I now am crying a little about all the gloves that could have been worth way more. :')
Also: What happened to "TheVictor001" and 2? Were those your twins that you ate in the womb of your mother?
This is absolutely correct. Good video! Also if you ever do experience burn out, try playing SSF. It totally changes the game and it's so satisfying I'll never play trade again.
I absolutely hate trading, so SSF has been very nice
Pros and Cons of POE
Pros: No other game offers this much content and dopamine satisfaction
Cons: I cannot play any other as they do not give me dopamine satisfaction
i hate trading cause half of the time it takes 30mins to buy 1 thing
I am not ashamed to say that I hadn't realized how gem setups work until after I beat Kitava for the first time.
Bro same haha, I started in scourge league, i 1L molten striked to t7
I started this last event without any build in mind and tried many skills in act 1 and finally set in viper strike into pestilence strike, after that raider ascendency for speed and phasing and all poisong and chaos damage over time in tree, life and this build I am planing to league start with. not following any guide for first time in past 4 years.
I always recommend people to try SSF using a meta build guide or play a semi-SSF on trade and only trade crafting materials. Best way to learn the very complex trading system.
Been playing on and off since beta always grab a build guide but then alter it and use them for just a guideline. Still have fun
I was getting ready to release my own version of Path of Building, when POB got launced. I have been making builds since Warbands. That was a bit over a year after the release. I have been crafiting since essence league. That is 3 years after launch. I made my first mirror tier crafting in crucible. So yeah last league. I don't count my stuff synthesis since it was mirror tier for me. Nor in delirium where I early discovered the aura stacker and bought up everything needed for me and my bro. We had a blast trivialising all content in the game. Our builds ended up costing around 10 mirrors each, but they were bought for cheaps.
I do have autism and ADHD giving me hyperfocus and an unending hunger for knowledge within my passion.
Harvest league was stupidly broken, but sentinel league was even more broken. And crucible was just crazy broken, but not in the same way. And of course hinekoras locks, you could get them early on for cheaps. I bought some to sell later. Since I knew they were under prices by a lot. Thanks to experience and game knowledge.
What I am saying is, I am still learning, and I am still progressing my builds, crafting and currency strats.
I've been playing PoE on and off for about 5-6 years (started in/slightly before bestiary) with over 3.5k hours clocked on steam. I don't consider myself a good player and I often lack the patience to play every league until my leaguestarter or subsequent builds make it into red maps. I've started playing blind and later discovered build guides. Today I often watch them for ideas and inspiration on how to tackle certain problems (life recovery, defending against phys damage, dealing with ailments, etc). I've long lost interest in following guides blindly since you feel a lot more invested in making your own abomination kinda work out. That said I still feel overwhelmed by crafting and often don't know how people get good gear. I've been playing around with craftofexile though and I feel like I'm getting better at understanding what I can create on my own.
5k hours and still using build guides and averaging around 50-100div each season. Seeing videos of people spending mirrors on single items is wild to me.
Its just about how much time u have to farm rn i average 100 to 200 divs a league but when i was in collage i was making 3 diferent multi mirror caracthers a league.
God i miss delirium league when aura stackers where legit gods.
I remember spending arround 11 mirrors copyng empyrian that league.
I have played for over 4k hours and I have never once looked at a guide. I get to level 90 and typically reroll to use something i found. I never play in standard so i play each character for a bout 2 weeks and forget about them for the most part. I've never sold a single item and rarely purchase anything. I'm pretty sure this is not the way most choose to play the game but i really enjoy it. Mines are my favorite and EOW or Forbidden Rite are the 2 skills i've been trying to make a build around. T14 is the furthest i've gotten in 2 weeks. The tree changes often enough that there is always a new thing to try out or something that needs to be avoided. My currency tab is always nearly empty and i am ok with that. I don't feel entitled to have exactly what others have regardless of effort like it seems many do. Ohh well 3.23 soooooooon
That amazes me every single time, I started on last year's january, improved a lot every league, last 2 leagues got a mageblood without any issue, and this league did a multi mirror build (around 5 mirrors), sometimes I chat with random players when they need help, and all of them tell me how they played for years and don't know how to craft even basic shit hahaha
So random
I wish crafting was more accessible and less expensive as someone who always fail my crafts
Here's the issue though, trying to make your own build and getting nowhere punishes the player a lot, as they either have reroll a new character and trudge through the campaign again, or try to respec their current character, which can be a massive headache.
real and true
so true that it hurts
i feel personally attacked lol. im good enough to get MB or close to it in a league now but i still suck ass cause it takes basically the full 3 months of grinding only this game
Getting good doesn't equal gametime it equals gametime with a concerted effort to improve. Similar to how playing random notes on a guitar doesn't make you an expert, you have to be focused on your approach to getting better at the game. Time your campaign runs, measure your divines per hour, improve your map clear times and pathing, and watch market trends. I've sometimes learned more about the game from watching videos explaining knowledge I didn't have then playing without that knowledge assuming I knew everything.
It's a game nerd game, that's what makes it awesome. Have played for 6 years and get to red maps but not much farther generally, just enough to leave some unknown that keeps me coming back.
So PoE has always been hard for me to approach.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game and I've been playing a long time up to red maps and beyond.
But my ADHD makes the complexity and FOMO absolutely psychologically overwhelming.
The part of me that is "I WANT EVERYTHING NOW" is absolutely incompatible in a game in which you MUST compromise on the content you consume.
What I realized is that I have to greatly reduce my scope, the game is good in all aspects, I have to shrink my consideration of it and go for a tangible, measurable goal in it.
I think I will try to start doing that by focusing exclusively on speedrunning the campaign.
4 Hour to act 10 seems like an achievable and easily measurable goal to set my eyes to, and I am sure that i'll learn a lot of things that can be applied to other aspects of the game.
I've been playing for more than 10 years, I've still never really engaged with the crafting system beyond the absolute basics. I just like killing stuff and hoping for a rare item I can sell for enough currency to buy the gear I need.
i have 2.5k hours in poe but im still a pepega, hardest part for me is finding strats for farming currency, its insane how some people are able to get 100 divines or more in 1-2 weeks after league start.
There were players on the seven day Blast from the Past event with well over a hundred divines. Just nuts!
LOL whats so hard? Choose one mechanic do it as fast as u can for long hours, currency has never been a problem to me,even on my first leagues.
Started in delirium league.
@@franciscoamaral103 whats hard is to find something u enjoy farming for long periods of time that is also profitable
Yup. Also, don't feel compelled to play every single league. If the mechanic is kinda meh, play Standard, and enjoy the goodies you've earned in leagues. =^[.]^=
Another great video! I have to ask, what's with the KEYWORD STUFFING though? :D
So true, so true
😁😁👍👍
The issue with making your own build and not following a guide in PoE is that the game will in fact actively punish you if the player doesn't know what they are doing. Sounds simple on the surface just learn the game. However, there are so many systems in place that to actually understand PoE the player needs to actually be good at math and love RNG otherwise the player will burn through their currency just to make a paper weight. That's why most people don't make it past the beach or past red maps.
3 days ago I was sitting at reddit writing down my knowledge of "how to make build noob guide". I ended up by deleting everything because Im not very good in Poe... well I made 1 build of my own that cleared all T16 corrupted and thats it. What is it compared to insane builds on poe ninja with hundred of millions of damage right? I felt like many people would dislike my post and there would be little to no appreciation...
I've been playing on and off since 2016, I still suck at the game.
wait there is tonns of ppl who dont make it to redmaps ?? on softcore ???? what
see I'm a different type of gamer. I don't just play the "meta" build. I like poe for the different builds people come up with. I always play the new builds of the league and move on from the game when I've played the interesting ones.
I think this is the fun part of the game, plus this is not the first game who did this kind of learning curve to play the game, Terraria .... Minecraft ... Factorio ... all have the same "problem" and yet still beloved by many players, and is fine! As long the dev knows who their audience is fine, instead of trying to satisfy ALL players like Fornite, just dedicate your game to the audience they know is fine too
started PoE during late Crucible, played my first 1.2k hours, learnt how to get 40m DPS, managed to get a Mageblood as thats my final goal for this league, the amount of knowledge i've gotten throughout those journey are just immensely vast, everytime i thought i have learnt everything in the game, there will be always a new knowledge i will get from other players, its like what i've learnt was only a small fraction of it, but yea i just wanna say its okay to be a noob, you will learn poe at your own pace, just dont give up and enjoy the game as you want
Playing since essence, never got more than 150 exalts\divines in chest, and builds of the same cost. I could, but it gets so boring, even though i never blindly copy guide builds and try to incorporate my ideas
in your first league you got further than 99.99% of players ever will lmao
I have a little over 4K hours in POE, but I have played very little over the past several years. When I started playing it on a more serious basis, I saw myself making progress each and every league, getting further and further each time. I was enjoying added new knowledge each and every league. Then came 3.15 and the great player power nerf. This set me way back in my progression. My builds that got to red maps and where I was starting to take on end game bosses now ended in yellow maps. This frustrated me to no end, and I basically now play each league for a few days to see the new league mechanic and I quit the league.
POE is balanced around the top 10% of its player base. For those of us who are more casual players, the nerfs they put into the game to try to control player power of the top 10% brutally screw the 90% who are not streamers and no-lifers who play 12-16 hours a day. Not casual or new player friendly. I would not recommend POE to most gamers. There are more casual and new player friendly games in the genre that will better suit most players.
"good player" fk this notion, just do w/e you want and have fun.
If you try and minmax everything, you will soon find yourself hating the game instead.
But this does not mean you should not do things efficiently, just find balance which works for you.
Pls turn of that music behid
Been playing since the beginning. Definitely just average at this game. Never got a character to level 100 and never touched true endgame. Still have fun trying to make God awful builds work lol
Great video! The only way to stop sucking at this game is to start a CZcams channel and get roasted for everything you don't know until you know slightly more than nothing. EZ
That is also an option that players could take KEKW
What does it mean to be good at poe?
Game the market with bots and follow meta slave builds with the most meta farming tactic (that you just learned from some discord)?
Or to have fun with your own wacky build?
i dont have alot of time so i follow a meta guide untell i enevatably in my arogance stop following the guide for things i find cooler
beat the big bosses for the first time this league going for mage blood next one
It makes you knowledgable but may not convert to actual skill lmao.
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It's embarrassing if you have been playing longer than a year and still follow build guides. Time to move on.
We need a big balance patch, with significant nerfs and buffs... It's been too long