Judo vs Bjj: Ground Game
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
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As someone who trains and competes (locally, and not always successfully...) in both BJJ and Judo, I totally agree that you should train both. In newaza, I like the fact you can pin unless I am getting pinned by someone who can't submit me😂
Getting smashed ssuuuucckkss lol
Great video again Hong !
Judo ne-waza is fine against any assailant that doesn't know grappeling.
BJJ focus on the ground and Judo on the trows so overall i think Sport Judo or Traditional Judo will get you better prepared for any self- defense then average BJJ schools. 🥋🤙🙏
btw i heard JJJ again i hope we will get a video about that too 😁
I would have love to have heard you mention the explosiveness of your typical Judoka vs the more methodical approach from BJJ practitioners. When I (Judoka blk 2nd Dan) went and trained with the BJJ guys I immediately realized how my ground game, although better than your average Judoka, was still lacking in overall knowledge vs the BJJ guys (mounting the back and just ripping is illegal in Judo, ankle locks, butterflys etc.). HOWEVER, my explosiveness vs their slower python type style really helped me hold my own against them in the gym and even surprise the coach who was 4 times my size and also a blk belt (but in BJJ).
IOW i won more off of my speed of execution whereas I had trouble when they started to tie me up and slowly work me. It was fun and interesting.
So basically, you being a judo black belt, you held your own in bjj.. do you think a bjj guy can hold his own in judo?
@@Rshen11Do you mean in the ground game only or when they try to work on their stand up game?
@Joseph981000 I mean, Judoka can probably compete and hold their own in a bjj tournament.. a bjj guy probably would not be able to do much in a judo tournament at all.. But who knows. It really depends on the athlete them selves
@@Rshen11 Hm, so for judo tournaments I’d say that BJJ guys aren’t as confident. At least at my dojo I see that they’re not as confident in their upper body throws as their leg takedowns and end up being very defensive.
Ill make a video about the speed of both sports. Thats a great idea!
Love the video
Train both if possible, but if not? I would pick Judo, unless you can compliment your BJJ with wrestling
I know you came from BJJ to Judo, but many say it would be easier to go from Judo to BJJ, maybe because the tachi waza is more intimidating and also let's not beat around the Bush. Judo is much more aggressive/intense and faster paced
Which u think is easier to learn I tried bjj just seemed like to many steps put foot here place hand here turn foot to left etc… just seemed complicated to many steps
@@Canecorso14 Judo has the same aspects in it's tachi waza (stand up). It's ne waza (ground work) can be just as complicated but because you learn to understand WHEN the situation is ideal for all those steps you learn you tend to implement them faster.
I'd argue Judo would take longer to master but BJJ does lack in the stand up game so your mindset CAN (not a must) be very limited for transitioning to a real life confrontation.
@@Canecorso14 I'm not too experienced yet to give a definitive answer, but I think Bjj is easier to begin with. Not easy to break the balance to throw a resisting opponent, especially one with knowledge
That being said both are great arts.
@bobronsons5780 Both are great arts and they're both physically demanding.
Nice content but I think you are missing something. You can only compare them in the context of the desired outcome. BJJ standup is more effective than Judo Standup in the context of a BJJ match. My focus is not just scoring an ippon, it’s about putting myself in the best position to get a submission. There are plenty of Judo takedowns that would put you in a bad position in a BJJ match. There also is a lack of defense against certain techniques that are banned in a Judo match.
When I teach jiujitsu half the technique class is standup, the second half is ground techniques then we spar starting from the feet.
Yup, definitely miss that one, thanks for chiming in. Osu!
Thanks for the video brother. I only practice judo and in my club the practice is split 50 50 for tachi Waza and newaza. Sometimes we have done BJJ guys coming over and they don’t stand a chance while staging and we give them a hard time in newaza so I think judo is more useful for everyday applications. People who wanna get better in newaza could go to Bjj clubs, which I actually did once when I took a trial lesson, but just felt I was practicing judo without throwing so by I guess I’d better keep on focusing on aikido and karate so I can be a more versatile fighter who can throw, submit, use joint locks and strike.
Most Judoka feel that way, throwing is so much fun that when the try bjj they like '' huh? why are we starting on the ground'' lol
Funny thing is if you add a stand-up grappling game to Bjj.. I just become basically judo..
I you're in a Bjj school that does 50% stand up and 50 % ground work.. it's the same if you are in a judo school that does 5050. It just depends on the person and instructor..
As it is now. judo is more practical, complete cause you get some ground.. where as bjj you get no stand up at all.. plus judo is cheaper
Not exactly because bjj has leg attacks, in Judo they are banned so they don’t practice them
@@davidbalazs347sports judo
@davidbalazs347 sports judo, no leg attacks.. and going for leg attacks on the street is dumb as hell
😂😂😂
Thanks for answering my question, much appreciated! Since Judo and Muay Thai are more complete fighting styles, I will first use them as a base, and then at a later point, complement them with BJJ/MMA...
Solid choices, Osu!
Yo your content is dope, been watching you for a while, keep it up! Did my second judo trial this week actually at a small club, it was very fun!. We actually did like about 35-40% of the session newaza.
Thats awesome, i think if we dont learn newaza out judo aint complete. Appreciate the support brother! Osu🙏🥋🙇♂️
When i watch videos like this i think about how licky i am to be at the gym i am at because we train judo bjj and wrestling with high level instructors wish everyone got to play a little judo defanently will change the way you view grappling