Donovan McNabb on Patrick Mahomes GOAT talk
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Mahommes don't need no mf longevity. If he gets Brady total ring in less time, let's say 10 years, longevity can kiss his hass.. if you achieve greatness in less time, that is the definition of GOAT
Thing is Brady never lost his hunger and was always striving to get better and that, as bi-product, was part of the reason for his longevity. There is no "what if" there. There is no complacency there. There is only hunger. That is what Mahones needs to stiĺl show because the one thing that tarnish his legacy is a "what if" or "if only".
Mahomes will surpass brady. All he needs is more trash teams choking in the super bowl
Your crazy if you don’t think mahomes don’t need 15 plus years
😂😂😂😂facts
Coming from 2 guys that have 0 super bowls
its a team sport
Team sport or not McNabb has no damn Superbowls it's like Charles Barkley speaking about championships jajajajaja you don't have one
At least Donovan have two NCAA bowl rings
Chuck literally have none
Coming from a guy who never played in the nfl......
You know the patriots cheated to win against McNabb right?
Eye test- Mahomes, Rodgers, Marino
Accomplishments- Brady, Montana, Mahomes
Common denominator- Mahomes
Peyton is my goat 🐐 Mahomes that guy too though
Mahomes needs to do this without Kelce
Good point
@@TommyEG4Nno he doesn’t, mahomes elevated Kelce career not the other way around
You must never see Joe Montana .
He just mad he didn’t have the same success. It’s ok. Give Mahomes his flowers
Yeah, I'm an Eagles fan, but whenever McNabb is asked questions like this, he often comes off as a hater, because he feels like he wasn't given his due while he was playing, which may be true, but he really does have a bit of a "get off my lawn" kind of attitude.
3 Sb MVP’s and 2Mvp’s supersedes longevity. Only 3 Qb’s have accomplished this.
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@@jw2758 Brady no, Montana yes.
5 chips in 11 years he definitely in the conversation. What playing more years have to do w/ anything?
😅😅
Donovan said success is everything right? Is Patrick Mahone success right now.
Apparently he has to play until he ruins everything else in his life like Brady did.
Patrick is an "all around " YOUNG superstar quarterback. He's earning his way. f longevity if he can earn more championships in less time. If he does it in less time he's BETTER!!!
Bingo
Facts that would be even more impressed
Yall talking like pat is gonna magically start playing like crap lmao. He is one of three players all time with 3 rings and 3 sb mvps. He IS in the convo with them off that alone. People just cant wrap their head around his individual greatness and team success this early in his career. He retires today as a top 1-3 qb of all time. What hes done in such short time could be someones reason why they prefer his case.
I recall 1 QB with 7 rings and 2 more QB's with 4 rings
Hasn’t shown he can do it without Kelce.
@@TommyEG4N Exact same convo that was said about Tyreek. Some play will drop off when Kelce leaves but Mahomes will still be Mahomes
People forget those other qb’s had their guys too. They didn’t catch their own passes
@@cobyjones9519 Yep....All teams have great players...Joe Montana had this guy named Jerry Rice, who was pretty good (Though Joe did win 2 without him)...but Joe also played on loaded teams with arguably the greatest coach ever. Joe elevated the guys around him, just as Pat has done with the chiefs.
Mahomes still has ways to go before he can be considered the goat but he’s accomplished so much in just six seasons as a starting QB he looks like he’s on the path to be considered the goat. Winning this super bowl can help the argument for him as the goat.
Donovan sounds like a hater. I wonder if those Campbell Soup commercials he did he ate some campbell's chunky hater soup!!
let me guess your expertise about the QB position surpasses him?
@@kingoflegends712 . Hahaha.Good one. If it does or does not matter. A hater is a hater and one does not need to know about a certain subject to know, spot or see if someone is jealous or not.
Donovan is a hater, just look at what he did to T O
He try to screw him over when they went to the superbowl that is why he hasn’t got a ring
I was hoping he never got one
@@nigelduke8792he actually liked mahomes pre-draft
Definitely 😂😂😂
2 rings and 2 MVPs at 28 is impressive and could get more than 7 rings.
Update: 3 rings! 🐐🐐🐐
Now 3 rings and 2 MVPs. Very impressive.
Getting 8 rings is crazy lol I can’t even think of that. I’m a Mahomes fan but idk if bro can do that. That seems unreal lol but let’s see
3SB rings, 3 SB MVPs, 2 regular season MVPs
@@dfwherbie8814it’s weird Brady passed Montana but didn’t have 4 Super Bowl wins and Jordan passed whoever you want to say is the greatest basketball player but doesn’t have the most rings or longevity
I’m never one to joke about CTE, but this take is wild. He gotta go get checked out
Nah I think you riding mahomes to hard , he will never be the goat 😂
@@bobbymartin3455nah he talking like longevity is what’s most important that’s crazy
@@bobbymartin3455 fam I can tell your parents enrolled you in remedial services, so just like your special ed teachers let me hold your hand and guide you on the is one. Number one, Im a 49ers fan and number 2, I never once mentioned Mahomes being up for any goat debate. I’m speaking about McNabbs qualifications (longevity??) regarding how some on should be considered a goat.
@@dooniegragg4924 facts!!!! It doesn’t make any sense!!!
He’s talking about how LONG can you be great. Not implying that the only thing that can qualify you as a goat is how long you’ve been getting bashed around for. You’re using the term CTE like women using the me too movement lmao
GOAT and best QB we have seen are 2 different convos. Agreed, he needs more time for the GOAT convo but if he wins 2 or 3 more SB in the next 5 seasons and mainstains his current stats then how can he not be given the GOAT status?!
People are too trapped in the mindset of prerequisites you need to meet in order to be considered truly great that they’ll miss greatness staring them right in the face. Mahomes hasn’t played that long. He hasn’t won 7. Yet he is still a talent unlike any we’ve ever seen at QB. There are legends at that position and Patrick Mahomes can sling it arguably better than all of them. Ability-wise at his peak he’s a great among all-time greats. That’s why he’s in the convo and it doesn’t take 10 more seasons to see that
You said a bunch of nothing
@@jamiethomas5849 reading is hard
the disrespect to all times great and he hasnt even played seven is insane lol,stop glazing
Very underrated comment imo. People get too attached to a certain stat as a prerequisite just because its the specific stat or group of stats of that the first few greats excelled. That goes for all sports.
@@Cloudcity20Hasn’t played anywhere near as long as some of these guys yet passed all of them pretty much in accomplishments and accolades this longevity argument just makes Mahomes look even greater than he seems.
I'm a Chiefs Kingdom fan, but even Patrick Mahomes would tell you that there's work to be done to even think about GOAT talk. We just live in a prisoner of the moment society 🤦🏾♂️
Stop lying you fake chiefs fan this dude said it doesn’t matter if pat won 5 or 6 championships in 10 years he has to have played at least 15 years first to be a goat 🐐
Nah 3 chips 3 Super Bowl mvps 2 season MVPs before 30 more passing yards touchdowns
@@moe3496I dont agrée with the longevity argument. It’s about what you’re able to accomplish during your peak. LeBron isn’t better than jordan because he played longer. Jordan accomplished more in a shorter career.
@@dfwherbie8814Jordan also didn't get double teamed throughout most of his career like LeBron and Kobe did
I can ride the bench for 20+ years longevity is nothing, it’s about what you can produce on the field and rn Mahomes is the goat literally but he is not the goat in accolades YET since Brady still has a decent gap in some areas. but I do think he will get 7 rings because there’s no answer for Mahomes if you give him weapons.
He thinks lebron is goat by this logic
How TF do you hear that when he said it's about championships and more years to be in the conversation
Championships and longevity matters.
Patrick Mahomes may not be the most accomplished QB (yet), but he is definitely playing the position at the highest level I have ever seen. He's the best QB ever. No one can do what he does and no one can score and win as efficiently as he can.
HE'S started 6 seasons and been to the AFC Championship game every year... He has been to 4 SB'S and won 3... If he goes to 4 more and wins 3 more in the next 6 that puts him way ahead of Brady as far as time to get there and he will be the GOAT before going 15 plus years... At this point in his career, he is the Greatest / GOAT QB, as no one has started out this successfully... Just My Humble Opinion based on stats and facts...
It’s more than longevity. The eye test + the success puts him in that convo. Quite frankly, if Mahomes gets the first 3-Peat, he’s the new GOAT.
He’s never missed a AFC championship game so far in his career 🏈💐🏆
Furthest Mahomes has been from a SB is an AFCCG OT.
Pat have done everything a quarterback can accomplish in this league on multiple occasions. MVP’s multiple superbowls knock it out Donovan
Much love Patrick
I’m not about to let yall keep discounting 7 Super Bowl rings and 5 Super Bowl MVPs. That shit is outrageously disrespectful and everybody doing it should be ashamed
How many cheating scandals has he, the coach, and franchise been a part of as well? Don’t discount that you can’t say jealousy because many coaches have had headsets malfunction only to suddenly work when refs come over. We aren’t and shouldn’t be ashamed we look at the full picture.
Mahomes has 2 rings and 2 Suoerbowl MVPs and he’s only 28. If he gets 8 rings and 6 MVPs people will move the goal post to yards and touchdowns as a measure of who the goat is.
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Yal discount 11 wats the difference
If mahomes gets 8 rings and 10 to 11 appearances he is the goat wtf u talking about ??@Grishrak
@@Grishrak 1 cheating scandal. But most teams have had a cheating scandal.
This is the exact opposite of the Jordan debate.
Bro was talking about something else
and somehow said MJ has only like 15 years,
and the man with more than 20 years
(LeBron) is the GOAT!
McNabb judging Mahomes is like Steve Nash judging Lebron
Mahomes is living in these fools head. Only a hand full of QB that ever played qualified to talk about that man
It is not longevity! It’s individual accomplishments along with being a great leader! Grown men will not follow a weak general into battle! If Patrick wins five Super Bowls in 10 or 11 years! He will be in the GOAT conversation! Heck, his 3 Super Bowl victories now (in five yrs) have drawn a close comparison to Brady and Montana!
no one is saying he is the goat right now, they are saying he is looking like he will be the goat
He is 100 percent correct especially NFL wise!
😂😂😂😂
Right exactly how I feel when they call these bums Goats 🤣🤣😂
IDC about rings, stats.Pat Mahomes is the baddest in league history
The same folks who say mj is the goat over Russell with 11 chips are the same ones saying Brady is the goat because his number of chips
The number of years is so arbitrary lol. Rings, yes. Patrick can’t go 10 years without a ring and expect to be in the conversation, but keep this pace up and he’ll lap everyone else in the conversation.
Mcnabb is the most bitter qb of all time
agreed
I'm comparing 28 year old Mahomes to 28 year old Brady - Mahomes had a better career so far, it's not even close.
At a time when DBs cant hit receivers, the NFL wanting Taylor swift fan base, and SF choking in the SB you get the GOAT Mahomes
@@Mr.woman_lover Brady is the REASON they cant hit QB's anymore, why does everyone forget that?
@@dalehammers4425 Never said that was a bad thing. The most difficult position is QB. The NFL as a business cannot afford any franchise to crumble because a savage decided to clip the opposing QB. Mahomes benefits 100% from that just like brady did his 2nd half of his careers.
Longevity makes no sense. If i can achieve all that you did in 20 years in just 7, wjat is the importance of longevity. Perfect example, Mahomes only needs 2 playoff wins and one mvp to surpass the great Joe Montana’s 16 yr career achievements. This shows you that longevity makes no sense
Terrible argument say Pat goes on a 4-peat he wouldn’t reach the 14-15 years criteria but that would literally be insane that hypothetical would automatically make him undisputed goat. Yes I know it won’t happen but it’s just a thought experiment
It can happen KC just needs to keep reliable talent around him they already have to 2 players on the team in the goat conversation.
The core of the Chiefs is gonna be there for at least the next 2 years, they can ABSOLUTELY 4peat if things go their way.
🌟Stop this, please! It's embarrassing.
Who is the qb that Kansas has to fear? Patrick doesn't have Hall of Fame level competition competing against his defense.
Brady had Peyton, Brees, Rogers, Favre, Roethlisberger, Vick, Mcnabb, Wilson, etc... All in their prime.
Patrick gets to have the easiest route to championships. It's not even close. Who is the HOF talent he has to compete against like Brady did??? I'll wait....
When Patrick did play Brady, he torched his defense and Patrick couldn't keep up. 😂😂😂😂
Patrick's success against the top defenses in the league speaks for itself, he doesnt play against QB's he plays against defenses. Sad you dont seem to know that. And when Patrick had an OL the year he lost in the SB to Brady... he utterly destroyed him earlier that year. Should try actually fact checking yourself lol.
They call Michael Jordan the GOAT
BUT
Bill Russell has 11 Rings
13 years playing with 11 Championships
When will people STOP MOVING THE BAR TO SET THEIR NARRATIVE ???
Mahomes the GOAT!! Argue with ya mama!!
Lord, for real. I am old school but we have to stop! Greatness is Greatness! This is laughable 😂😂
Donovan talking about greatness when he was a never was...
I remember Peyton Manning being the best QB of the 2000’s. Peyton had better stats & was even rated the highest on Madden every year.
People forget manning was the best qb during his time, unfortunately rings have a way of blinding the modern fan
No he wasn't and it ain't close
@@AimHigh101the best regular* season quarterback.
Manning wasn't the best. It was BRADY. the head to head wins proves it
@@Osideous ya, manning beat Brady more in the playoffs. Why does "goat" Brady have a losing record against manning in the playoffs?
I don’t care what class you put him in. It don’t take long to call the roll. I quote Bum Phillips concerning Earl Campbell. Yes, longevity is important, but we’re watching something
we’ve never seen before. Remember, he’s already been to 4 Super Bowls and has won 3.
As much as they deserved to get paid and want to get paid. They are focused on Championships and Super Bowls and their legacy. This is a horse of a different color.
Tell that hater shutup he sound like a hater his career is better than his and he mad he ain’t do it with the same coach
Disrespect ya just blind and ya know he breaking all records and prob gone have the same amount of rings when it’s all said and done and he naturally better I said it
I mean there’s no way you can’t say Mahomes will go down as the greatest or at least one of the greatest to ever play quarterback. Especially in this modern era, no matter what team you root for, he can do it all and that’s going to be hard match for any quarterback in the future.
You may not be comfortable with the title now, but he’s certainly making the case for that title as we speak. And I’m a Raiders fan lol and we got something coming for em!! But the champ is the champ until he isn’t. Speaking of longevity and success, Ray Lewis played and won more games than Lawrence Taylor yet LT is considered the great LB of all time. Donovan can’t explain that.
Eye test-mahomes
Rings-brady
Accomplishments-mahomes
Style-mahomes
No spygate-mahomes
more success in less time means more.
screw longevity lmao
I used to see McNabb in my gym all the time and at the Y. Cool dude, even dapped him up once.
He built like a linebacker tho.
Want irony?
Mcnabb didnt even play 14-15 years. Not a single ring...
But his opinion matters?
Dont forget, mcnabb WAS Andy Reids most successful qb until Mahomes
I thought Vick was the most successful before Mahomes personally.
Is he dumb? If you do it in less time then you’re better than anyone else!!!
Donovan McNaab is still a Hater it never changes!!!!
If he wins 5 SBs in 11 years, he’s the best ever. like be serious. he doesn’t have to play 15 years. Gale Sayers is in the HOF off a 6 year career. let’s stop the madness
He’s already in the discussion with Montana. He’s better than Manning and Brees and Marino. I’m a Colts fan and a huge Manning fanboy but Mahomes is that dude. It’s him and Brady at this point.
There are a ton of quarterbacks who played ten plus years that aren't better than mahomes right now
Sounds like someone’s hating.
We’ll jordan didn’t play as long as some of these other players and still has more rings then most the other ppl that’s in the goat status the eyes never lie and the eye test tells you mahomes is the greatest qb talent we have ever seen
Can’t believe him mahomes exposed his whole career
Why would he or Steven a smith be an authority on greatness in any sport?
Because they can anyone who is a fan can
McNabb never won chip ....he hating cuz mahomes won it 3 Times and went back 2 back with and Reid something that he never done McNabb opinion doesn't get dictate who the goat
I don’t think it will happen and God forbid it ever does, but hypothetically, if Mahomes started laying an egg this year and has few terrible years, it will hurt him.
It’s too early to judge where he ranks on the Mount Rushmore of QBs, BC he’s so early in his career-
No doubt, he’s the most gifted QB I’ve ever seen! If you were to take all the greats and combine their attributes, you would get Mahomes -
Brady’s IQ and clutch gene
Manning’s command of the offense
Marino’s accuracy
Favre’s velocity
Elway arm strength and mobility
Very bad opinion McNabb.
I didn't know how much of a Hater this dude is.. Not talking about S.A.
This sounds crazy, if I go pro and have been a pro for 7 years, I have won 3 of 4 Championships, 5 conference Championships, 8 straight Div. Championships, 2 MVPs, 3 SB MVPs 28,998 passing yards, 122 TDs, 15-3 in playoffs, etc.. at 28 YEARS OLD is not in The CONVERSATION.... THE CONVERSATION... Lie to you, don't lie for me
D speaking from his narrative. Impact is the key. Tupac was 25 yo when he died, but us revered by many as the GOAT. Bo Jackson, Barry Sanders and the like..
Once I saw donavon mcnabb, I already knew ...there would be no flowers
14-15 years? Dude, he’s 1 away from tying Montana. If he gets 2 in the next 3 years, he needs to play 5-6 more years to usurp Montana with more SB’s in tow? The math ain’t mathin’
Longevity makes no sense. Mahomes only needs 2 more playoff wins and one mvp to surpass all of Joe Montana’s 16 yr career achievements
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4frJoe Montana has played better in super bowls then mahomes 127.8 passing rates 😮
@@Cripsandbloodsaresellouts pls come and give us the actual stats and stop giving us one number of passer rating
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr lol Joe got better quality performance in the superbowls then Brady in mahomes facts
@@Cripsandbloodsaresellouts
Mahomes has better quality seasons and better overall playoff stats.
I try to not compare stats of guys who played in drastically different eras to be as fair as possible. But if you wanna do the stat comparison, I guarantee you Montana will lose. Compare the accolades and individual dominance relative to their peers and leave it at that.
Sorry Donovan but the years argument is dumb. His skill level, achievements and success are sufficient in less time.😊
We have to take into consideration that Brady was hated by Roger Goodell and Hindered by him at every turn to fail .
Mahomes has been Roger Goodell's Golden Boy to replace Brady in every Way . SB 58 was clearly Rigged to increase Mahomes Ring Count .
Lol bro
I'm a Eagles Fan from Philly...How can he even talk when it was time for him to go back then and he was throwing up in the locker room.lol..Mahomes have years to play to prove hisself
Easy coming from someone who didn’t win any 😂
The G .O.A.T. Already
Donovan McNabb is bitter. One of the best for the Eagles pass percentage wise but blew our chance at winning a superbowl under his helm, especially when he got emotional about Terrell Owens criticizing him. 🤦🏽♂️
Longevity had nothing to do with winning. If patrick wins 7 in 8 years, GOAT. Would we still be talking about longevity?
I think 🤔 if he wins two more titles in the next 2 or 3 years it’s a conversation
Mahomes has been more dominant that Brady. Dude has always at least ended his season in the afc game. Bare minimum
OT of the AFCCG even. Never been further than a coin toss away from a Super Bowl. 1 he lost the coin toss, the other he was driving until Tyreek turned the ball over.
Surprising take from Mcnabb, who only played for 12 years.
McNabb a hater cause he never won a superbowl with Andy 😂😂😂
If you ask who was the greatest running back of all time, I think most would say either Jim Brown or Barry Sanders, who played 9 and 10 seasons respectively, so it’s not necessarily necessary to play 20 seasons, unless “greatest” means longevity as opposed to skill. If you look at the skill at the position, it’s already Mahomes. I can the argument that six years is too short, but if he’s at the 9 or 10 year mark, like Brown or Sanders, and continues with the same numbers, that to me seems like enough.
Barry Sanders has zero rings, and nobody will deny he's arguably the greatest ever.
That was a dumb reason. He said success matters. I think we can all agree Patrick is successful more than not
Conor Mcgregor is a two division champion. The chiefs and Patriots have won 6 and 4 super bowls comparatively. We need to stop measuring individuals on their team sport success.
Yall know this man Donovan a hater right?
The Jealousy is real!
When are you guys going to grow up and stop this GOAT crap? Why not just enjoy watching the great players as they are playing the game and maybe hope for them to win the next game. Or would that make a person actually pay attention to what really matters in this world. This is probably the greatest take of all time on this topic!
Andy Reid learned from his mistakes with Donavan
He’s already tied with Montana at age 28
Did he win anything? Sit down and shut up
Eleven players in the HOF had careers of seven years or less. Still, I'm sick of everyone talking about this. You have to have brains enough to figure out other things to talk about. I'm a long time Chiefs fan, but I'm getting bored by the lack of imagination. Mahomes, himself, said he's not played long enough. And that is ENOUGH!
I would ask Brady what he thinks, Montana, Young; guys who actually won the chip more than once, not someone who didn’t 🤣🤣🤣
This guy thinks he belongs in the HOF
Captain ground ball says what
He could win 5 Super Bowls in 10 years and then never win another one... brady has every significant career passing record and 7 rings.. once mahomes eclipses those records and championships, then he'll be the hands down goat... whether he does that in the next 10 years or next 20
Brady only has most of those because he played 23 years lol, on a per game basis Mahomes crushes Brady, and its not close. If Mahomes continues the pace he's on, he will retire multiple years earlier than Brady did, with every single record Brady ever had.
Years have nothing to do with it,. It's accomplishments. If Pat got 6 chips in 9 years, he's GOAT. Please,
He’s sounding salty like Brady!! 🤦🏾♀️ Doesn’t have a thing to do with longevity!! If he hits the numbers those did playing twice as long as he did, I would say he most definitely belong in the conversation!! 🤷🏾♀️😳
Y’all better respect Donovan
We can respect him and disagree at the same time.
We crown tooo early nowadays!!
Mahomes is the real deal he deserves this recognition
The called Lebum the GOAT way before even drafted
I normally agree, but Mahomes is lighting things on fire and backing up all claims. Even at his very worst so far, he's a Super Bowl MVP.
Why do we care what a non champion thinks😂😂😂😂
You have one
@@Aritri91 McNabb was a beast but not a champion. His opinion on the GOAT is as relevant as mine.
@@Laboom-edits I have as many as he does 😆 🤣 😂
You don't care what a non-champion thinks 🤔 but yo azz listens to Stephen A Smith's channel.. and he's an opinionated journalist who never ever even played the game. But if yo' azz didn't care what a nob-player, who of course isn't a champion, thinks...then you wouldn't be wasting your time on this channel. But yo' azz is criticizing Donovan who is a 6x Pro Bowler 😄
@@twandatnggah1000x more relevant as yours 😄
So that means since Kareem played over 20 years and MJ played what 13/14 years Kareem is the goat?? Lol
Mahomes is #2….hes past of the old legends and the only one in front of him is GOAT Brady, for now. Sorry old timers, it’s reality
He’s already better than Joe. He will eventually go down as better than Brady. He is already more skilled than Brady.
Two QBs, same primary coach. One is a loser, not gonna sniff the HOF, the other is already a Hall of Famer. The loser shouldn't have anything to say about the winner, but for some reason, we love talk by losers now.