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Komentáře • 81

  • @MMmaths8800
    @MMmaths8800 Před 2 měsíci +13

    There is no one like you, you are the best teacher in the world🥰

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Thanks dear for your continued love and support!❤️
      You are the best!

    • @Uma-hr8cc
      @Uma-hr8cc Před měsícem

      Best teaching

  • @jimlocke9320
    @jimlocke9320 Před 2 měsíci +8

    The barrier students must overcome is that there are not enough equations to solve for a and b. PreMath was able to narrow it down to one equation and 2 unknowns (a and b). However, we only need to know the product of a and b to find the area of the white triangle, not the individual values of a and b. One solution approach would be to find the area of the white triangle for the special case of ABCD being a square. Then, letting s be the side of the square, a = b = s and you have one equation with one unknown. The problem statement does not rule out a square. So, you solve, get a value for s² and subtract the combined area of the red, green and blue triangles to get the area of the white triangle. The problem statement implies that the same solution applies to the general case of the rectangle, so you present that as your solution.
    If the problem statement is modified to require students to solve ABCD being the general case of a rectangle, students are effectively given a clue that the solution is valid for a range of values of a and b, in this case, whenever the product ab equals 18 + 2√(51).

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Super!
      Thanks for the nice feedback ❤️

    • @shahdmohammed4597
      @shahdmohammed4597 Před 2 měsíci

      نشكر حضرتك للمجهود والمعلومة انا اوجدت الناتج بنظرية ايجاد المساحة الداخلية المظلله فى الشكل =مساحة الشكل الخارجى _مجموع مساحة الشكل الداخلى والناتج كان عدد صحيح وليس عدد عشرى. اسفة للاطالة وارجو التصحيح لو هناك خطا فى الحل

  • @soniamariadasilveira7003
    @soniamariadasilveira7003 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you Sir. I always like your explanations!

  • @ritwikgupta3655
    @ritwikgupta3655 Před měsícem +8

    Very nicely done by isolating and reducing variables to only a single "ab"
    However you cannot reject 18-2√51 outright as its value is 3.72, ie +ve.
    So, we should state:
    White area = 18+/-2√51 - (5+6+7) = 18+/-2√51 - 18 = +/-2√51. As area is a positive number the answer is 2√51.

    • @123rockstar2010
      @123rockstar2010 Před měsícem +1

      Exactly.

    • @OverclockingCowboy
      @OverclockingCowboy Před měsícem

      The author rejected it outright being “not possible” because it would be less than the sum of the 3 given triangles (5+6+7=18).

  • @ramanivenkata3161
    @ramanivenkata3161 Před 2 měsíci

    Very well explained

  • @redfinance3403
    @redfinance3403 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Nice! I finsihed this one very quickly ⏰! I think what maybe made a lot of people fail to do this puzzle is labelling all the sides of the triangles with different variables instead of writing the height out in terms of the base, since you are given the area. Its a common pattern i have seen in other problems on your channel!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      Nice work!
      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @prossvay8744
    @prossvay8744 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Let AD=BC=a ; AB=CD=b
    Area of rectangle ABCD=ab
    CF=12/a ; AF=10/b
    DE=AD-AE=a-10/b
    DF=CD-BF=b-12/a
    Area of triangle DEF=1/2(DE)(DF)=1/2(a-10/b)(b-12/a)=1/2ab(ab-10)(ab-12)=7
    (ab-10)(ab-12)=14ab
    ab=18+2√51=32.28cm^2
    White triangle area=32.28-(5+6+7)=14.28 cm^2.❤❤❤ Thanks sir Best regards.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Super! You are the best🌹
      Glad to hear that!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @klexosia
    @klexosia Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you! I tried to do this on my own before watching the video, and I got the correct answer 🙂

  • @williamorrick5348
    @williamorrick5348 Před 12 dny

    A conceptual explanation of why it is not possible to solve for the individual lengths: if the figure is rescaled vertically by a factor of S and horizontally by a factor of 1/S, none of the areas in the figure (and areas are the only pieces of information provided) will change. Hence we are free to choose the scaling so that a selected line segment, say AB, has length 1.
    With this choice, AE has length 10. Let BC have length a, so that a*1 = a is the desired rectangle area. Then ED has length 10-a, FC has length 12/a, and DF has length 1 - 12/a. So (10-a)(1-12/a) = 14, from which we can find a.

  • @6507bankston
    @6507bankston Před 18 dny

    I would have added a little reasoning why x=18-2sqrt(51) should be rejected. It's still positive, but is less than 4. We're given the area of the rectangle is at least 18.

  • @CloudBushyMath
    @CloudBushyMath Před 2 měsíci +3

    Nice one👍

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Thank you! Cheers!🌹❤️

  • @derwolf7810
    @derwolf7810 Před měsícem

    Alternatively:
    Using your labeling a, b, h, A to F and define i := |FC|.
    Copy the triangles, rotate them by 180 degree and align them along the bases of their counterparts to get colored rectangles.
    Note that the blue and the red rectangle overlap on a rectangle with area of i*h (smaller than both rectangles) and that the following is true.
    i*(b-h) * (a-i)*h = (a-i)*(b-h) * i*h
    (i*b - i*h) * (a*h-h*i) = (a-i)*(b-h) * i*h
    (2*6 - h*i) * (2*5-h*i) = 2*7 * h*i
    (h*i)^2 - 22*(h*i) + 18^2 - 324 + 120 = 14*(h*i)
    (h*i - 18)^2 - sqrt(204)^2 = 0 | /(h*i - 18 - sqrt(204)); < 0, because h*i < 10
    h*i - 18 + sqrt(204) = 0
    h*i = 18 - sqrt(204)
    ==> Area = 2*(5+6+7)-S - (5+6+7) = 18-S = 18-(18 - sqrt(204)) = sqrt(204) = 4 sqrt(51) ~= 14.28 [in cm^2]

  • @jamestalbott4499
    @jamestalbott4499 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      You are very welcome!🌹
      Thanks ❤️

  • @think_logically_
    @think_logically_ Před 2 měsíci

    AE=bp => DE = b(p-1). Also DF=aq => CF=a(1-q). So we have abp=10; ab(1-q)=12; ab(1-p)q=14. But ab=s - the area of rectangle. So p=10/s => 1-p=1-10s=(s-10)/s and 1-q=12/s => q = (s-12)/s. Thus from third equation (s-10)(s-12)/s² = 14/s with leads to quadratic equation s²-36s+120=0. The rest is clear.

  • @richardbloemenkamp8532
    @richardbloemenkamp8532 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Ok got it correct. At first it seemed to become too complex with sqrt(816) and that there may be a simpler solution. But just continuing I got 2*sqrt(51)

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      Excellent!
      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @soli9mana-soli4953
    @soli9mana-soli4953 Před 2 měsíci +2

    2sqrt51
    calling B the base of rectangle, H its height, FC = x, AE = y we can write:
    x*H = 12
    y*B = 10
    (B - x)*(H - y) = 14 => BH - xH - yB + xy = 14
    BH = 36 - xy
    Now we can divide the rectangle in 4 smaller rectangles in which the upper right rectangle has area = xy, then tracing perpendicular to base and height. Calling xy=a we can calculate the areas of each rectangles as:
    10 - a | a
    _____________
    14 | 12 - a
    doing the crossed product we have:
    14 a = (10-a)*(12-a)
    a² - 36a + 120 = 0
    a = 18 - 2sqrt51 = xy
    BH = 36 - (18 - 2sqrt51) = 18 + 2sqrt51
    White area = 18 + 2sqrt51 - 5 - 7 - 6 = 2sqrt51

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @alster724
    @alster724 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The solution may be complex at first, but I was able to get it.

  • @ercantulunoglu
    @ercantulunoglu Před 2 měsíci

    very good

  • @santiagoarosam430
    @santiagoarosam430 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Dividimos ABCD en cuatro celdas trazando una horizontal por E y una vertical por F→ Área de las celdas: (2*5-a); a; 14; (2*6-a)→ (10-a)/14=a/(12-a)→ a=18-2√51→ Área ABCD =10+12+14-a=36-18+2√51=18+2√51→ Área BEF =(18+2√51)-5-6-7=2V51 =14,2828....
    Gracias y saludos.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      Excellent!🌹
      You are very welcome!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

    • @think_logically_
      @think_logically_ Před 2 měsíci

      Un error pequeño: en lugar de (10-a)/14=a=(12-a) debe ser (10-a)/14=a/(12-a). But it's clear anyway (sorry my Spanish is far from perfect). Excellent solution. I was looking for something like that, but failed to complete.

    • @santiagoarosam430
      @santiagoarosam430 Před 2 měsíci

      @@think_logically_ Gracias por advertirme de la errata en la ecuación. Corrijo y quedo muy agradecido. Hasta siempre.

    • @think_logically_
      @think_logically_ Před 2 měsíci

      @@santiagoarosam430 Por nada

  • @SirKaftar_Requiem
    @SirKaftar_Requiem Před 2 měsíci +1

    ❤❤❤

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks dear 🌹❤️

  • @hanswust6972
    @hanswust6972 Před měsícem +2

    Let be the area of triangles 7 = A, 6 = B and 5 = C.
    Then asked area = X
    *X = sqrt((A+B+C)^2 - 4BC)*

    • @mayihelpyou5557
      @mayihelpyou5557 Před měsícem

      我也是這麼寫的
      結果拿零分
      老師要求我寫計算過程

    • @awolzz5720
      @awolzz5720 Před měsícem

      两位兄弟为什么得出这个看似有点匪夷所思的结论? 不过代入后的结果与答案不符啊,是不是哪里写错了?

    • @mayihelpyou5557
      @mayihelpyou5557 Před měsícem

      @@awolzz5720 只有一個原因
      你代錯

    • @awolzz5720
      @awolzz5720 Před měsícem

      @@mayihelpyou5557 你是怎么得出这个结论的呢,能不能说一下

    • @mayihelpyou5557
      @mayihelpyou5557 Před měsícem

      @@awolzz5720 我記得用畢氏定理就能證了
      你最好不要用太多未知數
      兩個未知數就夠了

  • @user-cm7zz8zn4h
    @user-cm7zz8zn4h Před 2 měsíci +1

    Assumes that at angles at vertices of abcd are 90degrees, not given, anyone can make assumptions.

    • @waheisel
      @waheisel Před 2 měsíci

      He does say it is a rectangle.

    • @Deribus575
      @Deribus575 Před 2 měsíci

      Which is an assumption not given in the problem

    • @williamorrick5348
      @williamorrick5348 Před 12 dny

      Also assumes that angles AED and DFC measure 180 degrees.

  • @marcgriselhubert3915
    @marcgriselhubert3915 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Fine.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      Glad to hear that!
      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @stephenbrand5779
    @stephenbrand5779 Před 2 měsíci

    Great problem and solution. Afraid I am one of the 95%.

  • @misterenter-iz7rz
    @misterenter-iz7rz Před 2 měsíci +2

    by formula, A^2=(5+6+7)^2-4×5×6=18^2-120=204, A=2sqrt(51).😊

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

    • @manojmiya9141
      @manojmiya9141 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Proof of (5+6+7)²-4*5*6

  • @sarojkumarbharti2906
    @sarojkumarbharti2906 Před měsícem

    It's very easy

  • @shahdmohammed4597
    @shahdmohammed4597 Před 2 měsíci

    نشكرك

  • @wackojacko3962
    @wackojacko3962 Před 2 měsíci +5

    The top 5% that did solve this this International Mathematical Olympiad puzzle all went on too be Substitute Teachers! 🙂

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci +1

      😀
      Thanks ❤️

  • @veby_ff
    @veby_ff Před 2 měsíci +1

    خیلی زیبا و جالب

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      ممنون فاطمه عزیزم 🌹❤️

  • @als2cents679
    @als2cents679 Před 3 dny

    Since there are no variables, the answer needs to be a constant.
    Area of big rectangle = constant = A
    Area of white triangle = constant = A - 5 - 6 - 7 = A - 18
    Assuming D as the origin (0, 0), let B = (a, b)
    The locus of B is
    a b = A
    Without loss of generality, one can assume the special case when a = b, giving us
    a^2 = A
    Also
    (1/2) (a - 10/a) (a - 12/a) = 7
    a^2 - 12 - 10 + 120 / a^2 = 14
    A - 22 - 14 + 120 / A = 0
    A^2 - 36 A + 120 = 0
    A^2 - 36 A + 18^2 + 120 = 18^2
    (A - 18)^2 + 120 = 324
    (A - 18)^2 = 204
    A - 18 = sqrt(204) = 2 * sqrt(51) = 14.282856857 square units

  • @goranbrankovic9283
    @goranbrankovic9283 Před 2 měsíci

    14,283 cm2

  • @shreedhanmehta3553
    @shreedhanmehta3553 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Why is 18-2√51 scenario rejected?

    • @bfelten1
      @bfelten1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@DeathZebra@DeathZebra:
      Well, that motivation must be in the solution for it to pass the test.
      But you have DF = a - 12/b, which means that a > 12/b and therefore ab > 12 (likewise for ED, but only ab > 10). So 18 - 2 * sqrt(51) must be greater than 12 -- it is slightly less than 4, so dismisst. QED.

  • @kkkim4643
    @kkkim4643 Před měsícem

    ab > 5+6+7, ab > 18

  • @LuisdeBritoCamacho
    @LuisdeBritoCamacho Před 2 měsíci +1

    1) Let's baptize things!
    2) x = 5 sq cm
    3) y = 6 sq cm
    4) z = 7 sq cm
    5) Fortunately we have a General Formula for these cases : White Area = "sqrt((x + y + z)^2 - 4xy)"
    6) WA = sqrt((18)^2 - 4*(30)) ; WA = sqrt(324 - 120) ; WA = sqrt(204)sq cm ; WA = (2*sqrt(51)) sq cm ; WA ~ 14,3 sq cm
    7) Final Answer : The Area of the White Square is equal to approx. 14,3 Square Cm.
    NOTE: I reach to the conclusion that the Domain of the Solution (White Area) should be somewhere between : 8 sq cm < WA < 16 sq cm.
    The Total of Possible Ordered Pairs (X ; Y) of Integer Solutions is : S {(18 ; 0) ; (20 ; 2) ; (22 ; 4) ; (24 ; 6) ; (26 ; 8) ; (28 ; 10) ; (30 ; 12) ; (32 ; 14) ; (34 ; 16) ; (36 ; 18)}
    X = Area of Rectangle [ABCD] and Y = Area of White Triangle [BEF]. And X - Y = X - (5 + 6 + 7) sq cm ; X - Y = 18 sq cm. The difference must always be 18 sq cm.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @Uma-hr8cc
    @Uma-hr8cc Před měsícem

    20

  • @tamarshahverdyan2723
    @tamarshahverdyan2723 Před měsícem

    # 44 #

  • @JobBouwman
    @JobBouwman Před 2 měsíci +1

    The area R of the whole rectangle is:
    R = AB*AE+ DE*DF + BC*CF - AE*FC
    = 10 + 14 + 12 - AE*FC (1)
    Since AE = 10/AB and FC = 12/BC, we get AE*FC = 120/(AB * BC) = 120/R
    Plugging this into (1) we get:
    R = 36 - 120/R
    R^2 - 36R + 120 = 0
    This quadratic equation yields R = 18 + 2*sqrt(51)
    Now our answer = 18 + 2*sqrt(51) - 5 - 7 - 6 = 2*sqrt(51)

  • @RajendranPK
    @RajendranPK Před 2 měsíci

    √(5+6+7)^2---4×5×6

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @rohandasgupta5365
    @rohandasgupta5365 Před 2 měsíci

    my answer is 6 cm square

  • @lijiancz2066
    @lijiancz2066 Před 2 měsíci

    bad number selected. furhter ,when calculating delta, yoiu'd better keep facters(in this case, 4^2 rather than calculate it out.

  • @HulkarxonQodirova
    @HulkarxonQodirova Před dnem +1

    Zemzkov

  • @amudangopal
    @amudangopal Před 2 měsíci

    Why the negative root is not possible?

    • @user-vf4lm1lp2n
      @user-vf4lm1lp2n Před 2 měsíci

      面積必大於0,而18-2×51^1/2<0,故不合

    • @ritwikgupta3655
      @ritwikgupta3655 Před měsícem

      ​@@user-vf4lm1lp2n 18-2(√51) approx 18-2*7.14=18-14.28=3.72 which is +ve, but this will give a negative white area, only later.

    • @Uma-hr8cc
      @Uma-hr8cc Před měsícem

      Negative root Possible

  • @HulkarxonQodirova
    @HulkarxonQodirova Před dnem

    😂😂😂😂