Heron's Formula Proof (the area of a triangle when you know all three sides)
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- We can find the area of any triangle with Heron's formula when we know the sides of the triangle. Here we will see how to prove the heron's formula, which is a classic trigonometric result. And because you like Hero's formula, you probably will also like the proof of the following...
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I've always used the law of cosines to prove it, but this is pretty slick! Thx bprp
Did they even have the law of cosines when Heron proved this?
The Reaction - No, but I believe his argument was purely geometric rather than algebraic.
@@BrainGainzOfficial I completely overlooked that they might have not even had algebra either. It would be nice to see how he did it.
The Reaction - check out chapter 5 of journey through genius by William Dunham. I think you can find it online for free. It’s a pretty interesting proof!
@@thereaction18 How do you mean they didn't have algebra? They obviously had it, at least geometric algebra
"HE RUNS" formula
CZcams's captions in a nutshell
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I love how he pronounces “cancelled” as “canceldid” so much
Cancelled it😊
splendid canceldid!
@Yosif Abbas and I can't believe I actually posted that
As a non native english speaker, (chinese for that matter, very different) he is thinking of cancelled as the base verb, and adding ed to make it past, but he is making a past tense go into like a double past tense, so he says cancelleded
2:42
When you kept playing with the factorization rules at around 6:00, I already figured out how to prove Heron's formula. I tried to verify the formula years ago using the sine rule (A = ½bc sin t), but the equation got very complicated until I didn't know how to simplify it. This video shows the importance of mastering algebra, especially when it comes to solving simple problems like this.
damn bro chill out
Thats a nice proof without any trigo involved making it clean and simple😄
If you look closer, you're actually indirectly proving the trig stuff (especially the cosine rule) along the way, you're just not explicitly stating the identity.
10:38 Never heard of that, but COOL!
You know the one who is credited with the invention of zero is Aryabhatta, but this dude (Brahamagupt) was the one who first gave rules to actually use zero for calculations. His formula shown here is one of the first applications of setting the other side equal to zero to solve a problem. He also has contributions in fields like linear algebra, trigonometry and astronomy.
Here's a link to his wiki page if you're interested in knowing more: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmagupta
Thats great video i always thought this theorem was long and needed so much effort so i never been curious about it and rarely used it but you changed my mind
keep up the good work
I’ve been wanting to see a proof of this formula for a while now. Thanks for showing this great proof!
Your tone is really great - that is half the battle of being a good teacher. Great video I enjoyed it.
Thank you! I’ve always wondered about the proof!
I got asked to do this as an interview question
It took some, to say the least...
Did you pass
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The formula for area of quadrilateral was shocking.
Wow! Good information.
You are doing good.
Perfectly explained. Loved the video. Thank you so much😊
I'm so happy I found this, stay safe
I enjoyed very much. Thanks for making such nice videos!
I proved Heron's formula a few years ago with SOHCAHTOA. This proof is much nicer and more concise. Great video, BlackPenRedPen!
Cuuute! it's something even young students can do to really stretch their algebra skills hehe it's easy but with some algebra tricks 😊 nice
I've squared the second quantity under the root and struggled with the algebra but finally I looked at what I had which is a fourth degree polynomial in terms of "a" and solved for "a" squared and took the square root and rearranged the solutions to get the product of the final 4 quantities Really amazing problem that I can actually solve.
I love youuu, so helpful, u just expplained it so simply and clearly
Awesome explanation!
I'm a backbencher sir,but your every explanation is just so easy to understand ♥️
so you are dum
Thank you
I've been dreaming about learning proof of this formula some 5 years now
Great video! Please do more proofs!
u r just great, thanks for making our studies easier, soon my exams, and so blessed to have found ur channel)))
Very Easy to understand...Thank you
Beautiful. A really excellent explanation.
thanks for the amazing content
I love this proof. Pls make more videos like this
Presh Talwalkar's fans will be complaining of you not using Gougu's theorem :-)
Anyway, you are the king of CZcams math-teachers!!
This video is absolutely perefect form my math project!!!!! TYSM!!
I never knew about this formula, and the proof is really easy but I found this video extremely entertaniing
That was beautiful!
I was just curious as to how this was derived and this derivation is neat!
Thank you for this great ful video
Old School Style blackpenredpen!
I've come up with a formula for the area of triangles using hard algebric geometry. It takes the sides squared as inputs, so it works best on a carthesian plane.
A,B,C are sides squared
A=1/4 * sqrt(- A2 - B2 - C2 + 2(AB+BC+CA))
it uses pretty big numbers so it's better to use a calculator or use it in a program... But I'm sure it can be transformed into heron's and viceversa.
thank you so much!
splendor, bro carry on
Such a gorgeous proof ✔
I always wanted to know this.
Wow, I'd never heard of Bretschneider's formula at 10:38, that's weird! How do you prove it? It reduces to Heron when d=0.
bretschneider?
@@sx86 generalized Brahmagupta's = Bretschneider's
TBF, it doesn't exactly reduce to Heron's formula because of the way θ is defined (it would be undefined).
Έρικ Κωνσταντόπουλος Well it doesn’t matter what theta is because d=0 kills the cos^2(theta) part.
@@noahtaul It does, you can't cancel an undefined part in your expression just by multiplying it with zero. Instead, the whole expression becomes undefined. It's similar to e.g. 0*1/0, it doesn't equal 0 or 1, it's undefined.
I actually discovered this formula in religion class by accident when I was playing around with 1/2ab * sin(C) and cosine rule (to find the angle used in the area formula and then use inverse trig identity). Thankyou for sharing this.
3:47 is the cosine rule!
I just Love it.
The formula is introduced in Heron's book Περί Διόπτρας, where he proves it by using the inscribed circle, an elegant geometrical proof
That's the proof that I was hoping he'd do.
thats so cool!!
What 3B1B is a patron? Damn!
Yes.
I love your videos! Can you tell my what programs do you use to record the screen and what app/program do you use to write? Do you use mouse for writing?
Guess it is Ms Paint-like since it has a brush like and it is possible to use Bandicam but He is using Mac so...
Probably he wrote it using pen since if using mouse, it wouldn't be so good
Nice work. In the generalized Brahmagupta’s formula angle aplha correctly is half of sum of opposite angles.
Thanks!
It's really good sir.i want more mathematical proof sir
Wow amazing formula 😍
thank you !!!!
Good bro, your videos are amazing. Please try in upcoming videos to solve
Derivative of x!
Finally a proof I understand: :’)
We can use cosine formula a2= b2+c2-2abcos(c).Work out since and use area formula A= 0.5absinc
In Brahmagupta's formula I think θ is the sum of two opposite angles divided by two. I really like this video.
My most favourite proof.
Sir you are very talented
3b1b is one of your patrons? That's awesome!
Thank you
Hi, on Wikipedia it says that Heron originally proved this using cyclic quadrilaterals; please could you make a video on that? Thanks so much.
It can be derived from a particular case of the generalized half angle formula. Se here: czcams.com/video/WbkQHnNthg8/video.html
Damn I always forget about Heron's formula and it's so useful! I totally could have used this on my Calc 2 homework a few weeks ago
Nice prove
Nice upload
YEEESSSS. I LOVE IT.
Now how the hell did Heron ever figure that out?
The same way Heron's formula works for triangles and Brahmagupta's works for quadrilaterals, I wonder if there's a general pattern for any polygon with n sides. I assume that the proof for the quadrilateral formula comes from cutting the quadrilateral into 2 triangles and applying Heron's twice, so theoretically it's possible to derive a formula for a pentagon and so on.
When I was in 9th there is where I learned heron formula & as note I found brahmagupta's formula & I'm amazed that just putting d=0 you can get heron's equation.. Man Indian Mathematician were too good at that time I always love to learn more & more about them
Great!
Please do a video explaining the Bretschneider's formula at 10:38
Brahmagupta's***
@@randomdude9135 I think he was High enough..
Random Dude no, Brahmagupta’s formula is only for cyclic quadrilaterals, and doesn’t have the last cosine term.
No blackpenredpen spelt it wrong lol
It's quite complex but alongside its helpful too! :-)
VERY NICE
Very Nice
Great, this video proved 3 formulas at the same time, one formula attributed to a Chinese mathematician from the 13th century, then a formula found by Kahan anb finally the Heron's formula.
By me best herons formula prof is to prof volume of equilateral triangle , and then any other treangle as resized equilateral in two directions, so this can be used as prof for n-dimensional triangles volume
Nice. 👍
I love the phrase "invite into the square root house", I never thought of thinking of it that way.
The same way i also derived this formula .....It's suprising to me that I can think like the blackpenredpen....
ThanksMaster
@bluepenredpen I have a doubt well, are all numbers equidistant from infinity?
NICE EXPLANATION SIR. YOU ARE GREAT. #themathsgurudev
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Very nice :-)
or Area=1/4 sqr((P(P-2a)(P-2b)(P-2c)) P is The perimetr of ABC
It can be used that but looks like most people uses Heron since it has simpler formula
okay?
My favorite ways to write it are
(4S)^2 = (a+b+c)(a+b-c)(a+c-b)(b+c-a)
and
S^2 = xyz(x+y+z), where
p = (a+b+c)/2
x = p-a
y = p-b
z = p-c
My man please prove Stewart's theorem.
Hi, nice video buddy! Can you answer me this question? How many planes are defined by one line and 3 collinear points that do not lie on that line
I'm going to use this for right triangles from now on and nobody can stop me
Teacher at school:- You're challenging me?
heya! can you make more videos like that logarithmic one? im home... in boredom and I love solving problems like that ^^ thx
He has a lot of older videos with clever problems!
There's a simpler version. Through law of cosines, we have cos(A)=(a^2+b^2-c^2)/2ab. Then, we have sin(A)=sqrt(1-cos^2(A))=(1-cos(A))(1+cos(A)) and you can easily finish the proof using 1/2 bc*sin(A). It's the same algebra as above except you skip a lot of steps.
u8y7541 the nice thing about the method in the video is that it uses only basic algebra and no trig functions. depending on where you live, you learn this kind of algebra before you learn about trig functions (at least I did), so for that reason I would consider this method more elementary
The first part of the proof is so simple and straightforward yet I have never been able to do it on my own (maybe I did the first part of the proof, but I know for sure that I was never able to prove this formula which bugged me since I always feel uneasy using formulas that I can neither prove rigorously or have some good intuitive understanding why they should be true without knowing the rigorous proof. Just implementing/using a formula that I have read in a textbook always felt like cheating)
You can try this formula faster knowing a little trigonometry (half angle)
@@castilloguevaragiancarlomi6952 I know formulas for half angles, I knew how to derive all trigonometric formulas I have been working with. But I couldn't derive Heron formula. That's what bugged me using it felt like cheating.
@@smrtfasizmu6161 Sorry I think I did not read your comment well my native language is Spanish
Good video
Best maths teacher
Nice.
Embezzlement can be very well demonstrated using geometry
I am in 10th grade and this is the first video of BPRP that I understood well
In any Δ ABC, the Cosine Rule gives cos(C) = (a²+b²-c²)/(2ab).
So, sin(C)= √[-cos²(C)] =√[(2ab)²-(a²+b²-c²)²]/(2ab). ∴ area(ABC)
=(ab/2).sin(C) =√[(2ab/4)²-{(a²+b²-c²)/4}²] which can be facto
-rized to give Heron's formula. But who need's Heron's formula!
For the 5,6,7 triangle; the area = √[{2(5)(6)/4}²-{(5²+6²-7²)/4}²]
= √[(60/4)² - (12/4)²] = √[15² - 3²] = √(225 - 9) = √216 = 6√6.
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pls do the trigonometrical proof also using sine and cosine formulae
this is insane
Whats brahmagupta's formula
Yeah ik it gives the quad area but pls elaborate it