F-35 Block 4 + New Engine is too Much Superpower
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Range increase by 25%, TR3 Technology by L3Harris, 16 new weapons, and many more are what you can expect for the new f-35 block 4. That Major Upgrade made the F-35 need a new engine (XA100 By GE), or an upgrade (F135 By Pratt & Whitney) is a minimum.
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The F35 does NOT need a new engine. The PW F135 has HPT Growth margin and that is the plan. It would be STUPID to introduce a totally second parts stream into the program, besides why do you people always mention the GE variant and never the PW version of an 3-stream adaptive cycle. Why would tax payers be loosing 4 Billion, the adaptive engine programs are not going anywhere, and they were never intended for the F35. They will likely end up in the B21, the NGAD and the Navy's F/A-XX programs.
Go all out. It's not about money. They been spending crazy. Just make the best jet. Don't care about the price like they been doing. Faster and more fuel effective let's do it. They still can do both though. At different times.
Never too much power 😉
because F-35 is American and Americans never worried about "too much power" on anything
Correct more is always better. Better to have it an not need it then never have it at all.
LOL - Reduce its carbon footprint? Do you really think military cares about carbon footprints? just saying
I think they care. The USAF released its Climate Action Plan on Oct. 4, 2022.
Easiest way to lower any carbon footprint is to grow more trees.
Not if it interferes with combat capabilities, but otherwise yes, even the US military cares.
It's often just a more marketable side effect of higher efficiency though.
No. The military doesn’t care. Civilians care and they run the US military. That’s how it works.
That being said; Look at any military truck and try to find any emissions equipment (there aren’t any).
Hell no they don’t care, they wouldn’t of let service men and Hawaiians drink jet fuel water and tried to cover it up. They also would switch to tungsten instead of depleted uranium. The list goes on…..
After the students loans forgiveness. Ge. Has made enough
The bean counters have struck again.
Pratt is just pissed they will lose their turbine monopoly and is spouting alot of bullshit about "the cost of a better turbine from GE will hurt our monopoly pricing" blah blah what's new from P&W
Yup, and they refused to lower the price, because they didn’t have to. That is what they said.
@@MeanLaQueefa Pratt is gonna lose their monopoly, GE XA100 is compatible with F-35 its a matter of time.
Even if the for some reason the US military doesnt do it, you can bet 1 of the 15 F-35 partners will buy them.
@@johnfilmore7638 I’m glad GE is upping the game. More competition is great, better incentive to innovate, and let the best engine win.
GE had the f120 adaptive cycle engine for the yf-22 vs yf-23 dem/val and PW convinced the brass that their f119 was the more reliable tech. I heard there was some sort of agreement between PW, GE and RR to co-develop a new engine. GE was refining adaptive cycle. Rolls Royce was to embed electricity generation directly in the main shaft, eliminating the PTO and it's jack shaft. PW was working on a sub-sonic intake impeller to create pressure more efficiently. Of the 3 (afaik) only GE has ceramic matrix composites. Imagine a engine that weighs less than half of a PW F135.
Have you ever designed a turbine engine for a fighter jet? You have no idea what you are yammering about. Besides, do you think the GE 3 stream is any better than the PW 3 Stream engine? How come you clowns only mention the GE one and never the PW one?
Power to weight ratio is extremely important for dogfighting and for hauling bombs. Its also a mistake for keeping upgrades at a minimum.
The PW F135 is ALREADY the most powerful fighter engine in service, and there has not been a "dogfight" in almost 40 years... there will not be any in the future either. Welcome to the new way of fighting.
I love F-35 new engine.....!
This fighter is a long range engagement fighter not a dog fighter.That's why the jamming sensors are literally perfect.
OK---------. Sounds like adding 30% to the F-35A and C's range reduces the overall Cost to Both the Airforce and Navy who desperately need a much longer ranged fighter than the Current F-35 and F-18s... they are operating... Who ever is building the engine...
Wow Man, That’s alot of power like a new Rolls-Royce engine.
Huh? Rolls Royce is not even close yet.
So the engine is probably a variable bypass afterburning turbofan. Biggest hurdle is probably getting the variable angle stators to work well with the large changes in airflow due to the large bypass capability. Looks good on paper at least. Kinda reminds me of the bypass system on the J58 used for the ramjet capability
It's the future buy the new engine and stop trying to make the older better eventually we will need it anyway why waste money even know we are good at it
I actually don't understand why the USMC and USN thinks only the Air Force would benefit the reengine upgrade. Looks like the entire F-35 fleet is forced to just have the old engine core upgrade instead...
And now that has happened, the new engine has been canceled
The F135 was designed with margin for upgrades, beside the engine has to fit in the plane. The Adaptive 3-stream will NOT even fit in the F35B model... gee, maybe that's why the Marines are not asking for it... did that ever occur to you?
The navy andarine corps are waiting for the ngad
Modify the f35 bs so they will fit.make the f35 bigger in this regard.we have the technology and the designers.
It would fit in the newer ones if they did some modifying.comming off the line.
Amazing amazing amazing
Well about time it did need more speed but l can only hope that it not stolen as normal buy or stealing them.
Ok, you convinced me. I want one. Where do I order? And can it be delivered to my doorstep?
Amazon got a big sale for this next Sunday 😅
”Carbon footprint” of a fighter?! Clean wars? How incredibly dumb!
Definitely put the new GE engine in the F-35, it needs more range and more thrust, win-win.
Why not just out the even better PW 3-stream in it then?
range more important to Australia
And Canada. We have ordered 88 F-35's. Russians always probing our airspace. I imagine Australia's issue is Chinese J20's
Uk as well
Yes range is definitely key
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Yeah, but how loud will this damn thing be? It's already stupidly loud...
Louder... =-))p
So it har super cruise now right.............as everyone else?
No. The F16 ,F18, and F15 cannot.The Gripen only M1.1 with weapons. Rafale and Typhoon do M1.3-1.4 with weapons. All of these have poor stealth with weapons except the F22. Storing weapons internally makes for a "fat" fighter jet which isnt good for high speed cruise.
An obviously self-serving video designed by P and W to undermine any intent to use GE’s adaptive cycle engine in any F-35 variant.
We never take sides and are sponsored by any manufacturer. We are reviewing the advantages and disadvantages of the two engines and the process of getting a contract for the F-35 block 4. And we apologise if our analysis still has many shortcomings.
Glad to hear it!
They need both greater fuel efficiency and an increase in power to achieve reduced operating costs. Therefore, a new engine design is needed. The GE engine shows much greater potential for super-cruise. And, the ability to utilize synthetic fuels is a bonus that shouldn't be overlooked. Synthetic fuel could keep the planes flying in the ever-more likely WWIII three-front scenario. Europe, the South China sea, and the Middle East.
Now we are worried about the environmental impact of the engine???…..silly
No substitute for hoarse power.
Jet engines do not have "Horse Power" they have thrust, and MW.
What I mean is more power than something with less power.usally when they put a new engine in a jet fighter they beef it up.
@@Bobby-kw4qp Well then you will use the built in growth margin of the F135 along with material gains over the past 20 years to raise firing temperature and rotor speed. There is little sense in introducing a totally new engine and split the supply chain across 2 different engine types... especially from 2 different suppliers.
Stuffing a 3-stream into the F35 would be nice but very unpractical at this point.
F35 is slow! It definitely needs a new, more powerful engine. It would be also nice if we could make it more maneuverable
Yeah, I Agree; The speed Speed & maneuverability are indeed the main drawbacks of the F-35 compared to the Rival.
@@Nighthawkvets The F35 is a lot more manoeuvrable than the media gives credit. There's a lot of old test reports they rely on, when the F35 was G-Limited or utilising old software for plane management, or are being flown under strict ROE. It's no F22 in this area sure, but I think the J's and the Su's may find it a definite challenge if its ever fully unleashed at them...
It's as fast as an F-16, F-18, Rafale and Gripen...speed isn't that important in a fifth generation jet.
@@rayjames6096 this is not a new idea and just like in the past also today will be proven wrong. It is not important if you are US air force, if you are a smaller army that needs to fight against overwhelming force - the speed and manoeuvrability will matter
@@pawelhuszcza9611 You don't understand 5th generation technology.
Weeee all the problems will just magically disappear. That Magic Fairy Dust works every time. Let's hope the fart-35 will get more than 50 SECONDS of afterburner time. Wonder how the engine fixed the helmet clusterfuck, the massive electronic INcompatibility, major spares F up, a software travesty of monumental proportions ya know little things like that 🙂
All you spokesholes need to hustle on over to LM and brief them in so they can resell this fart 35 brick and start rolling in the 100's of BILLIONS maybe they'll cut you in for a piece of the action.
Before you do I'd say peruse a few reports from the goobs own director of OT&E I'll bet he has a few ideas on the subject. The ones I've read can best be described as SCATHING!!!!!!! 😎
The F-35 is the F-4 of the 1960s, a do it all fighter that can do everything okay, but not dominate in any one area like Boyd envisioned. Will the USAF ever learn? The leaders needs to learn from the past and not repeat the lessons of the past!
So
Chris and Prattney make the best engines. Stick with them.
The f35 is garbage bring back the f14 in an f21 fold
Now Fat Amy (F35) will be able to go faster then my Yugo.