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The vikings reaching North America first is not just a theory anymore. They have found the lost viking village in Canada.
It was discovered to be called Vinland, wasn't it?
Greenland is part of North America so it still would be discovered continent even if the other part of North America wouldnt have been discovered even tho it was.
They also identified it as being almost exactly 1000 years old
I live in Newfoundland and thats were the viking settle ment is on the northern peninsula at L'Anse aux Meadows
I remember there was a movie called Pathfinder about Vikings attacking Native Americans. Except these Vikings look like the followers of Chaos with massive spiked armor and dark feature (including black hair which isn’t that common among the Scandinavians). They also portray them slaughtering the natives, when in reality it was often the other way around
Flyte was the exchange of insults in the form of verse. Basically, poetically dissing each other- in a sense, a precursor to rap battles.
They had Flyting in Assassin's Creed: Valhalla as a side quest's of sorts...🤔
The best thing about flyting is that all the insults had to be true.
@@CrashKinkaide I've also heard they can get brutal...😅👍
Loki was a master of Flyting you could say he was a Rap God 😋
A good thing about flyting was, if you lost the flyte and felt absolutely offended, you lost your right to challenge the other to a holmgang.
Funnily enough, Hades was the *only* god in Greek mythology that stayed loyal to his wife and didn't mess with mortals.
Hence why he's my favorite, along with Hermes
@@jessicaavery1080 He kidnapped her, though. The incident is even called "The Rape of Persephone."
@@ElPayasoMalo during the time of the greeks it was the fathers "right" to give the daugheter away. Hence why Hades asked zeus to marry her and was given permission to take her. He also did say to her to not eat any of the underworld food for be stuck there.
He's also one of the few Gods that actually did his Job.
FEEL THE HEAT.
Ironically, according to the mythology, most of the Olympians (especially Zeus) were TERRIFIED of the underworld, mainly because the only god that could leave without Hades's direct permission was Hermes. Zeus refused to go there at all costs, mainly because he had previously swindled Hades from being ruler, convincing Hades and Poseidon to choose who would rule through a game of chance (Picking Sticks) instead of through age-oriented Birthright (in which Zeus would rule the seas, Poseidon would gain the Underworld and Hades would take over the skies).
The concept of "Flyte", however, is basically a rap battle in its earliest form--an intellectual debate that had to be spoken in rhyme with a crowd of spectators acting as their judge.
@@morgothable we stan Hades in this household. Even though he basically kidnapped his wife, at least they become the most solid and loving couple between the Green Gods
@@LucasF25 To be "fair," Hades kidnapped Persephone at the behest of Zeus, her father, so it was more of an arranged marriage than anything. And to the ancient Greeks, well, kidnapping was a perfectly valid way of obtaining a wife.
@callmecatalyst "in the coldest time of year, why is it so hot down here?"
And to add, Hades wasn't Hell. It was all dead. The Elysian Fields were in Hades, not just Tartarus (which was the Greek version of hell).
Dope
Fun part: when he mentions Natalie Portman, he switches to the movie Thor outfit
Thor and Zeus each approached the battle differently...
Thor approached the battle like a battle... He went for Zeus's head... He was dissing him...
Zeus approached the battle like it was beneath him... He treated Thor as though he was not worthy of battling him... So most of what he did was dismiss his opponent and pump himself up... He didn't even try to diss Thor... All of his lines were about how he (Zeus) was above Thor and above the battle...
Underestimating Thor and not taking the battle seriously was a big mistake.... Zeus took a huge L...
So what you're saying is that Thor treated Zeus the same way he treated Thanos? :D
Zeus should have worked in the line " Should have gone for the head". Obviously they didn't want to rely too much on MCU Thor, but that would have been a fun line.
@@jasonsimpson1397 "Obviously they didn't want to rely too much on MCU Thor." Despite the fact that the Thor in this ERB was clearly MCU Thor.. riiiiiiight...
@@jasonsimpson1397
That has already been used in a different video...
@@The5armdamput33 Considering it was what Thanos said to Thor, as a jab at his battle prowess, it would have been more apropos here.
Chronos ate his children whole, swallowing them akin to a pill. He did not chew nor "taste' them. Hence the ability to not only pass a rock off as Zeus, but for Zeus to have his siblings reurgit
ated.
There are at least 5 wolves in Norse mythology
Fenrir: most infamous of the five. Son of Loki, eats Odin at Ragnarok
Hati and Sköll: sons of Fenrir. They're the ones who chase the Sun and Moon, and eat them at Ragnarok.
Geri and Freki: two wolves that accompany Odin around.
Good man.
Everyone focuses on Odin's ravens and forget about his wolfs.
Don't forget Kaldr
Also Garmr, if you count him as a wolf and not a dog. Basically the Norse equivalent of Cerberus.
@@jasonsimpson1397 isnt Garmr the one who kills Tyr?
Funny thing Loki was said to be really good at Flyting so if he did write Thor's bars they probably would have been really good
Made that same comment on a thread above. Zeus is saying Thor is so good because Loki is writing this and this rap is not Thor's own work
Accusing your opponent of having a ghostwriter. Classic technique.
Well Loki was also known for tricking and testing the gods to prove that they couldn't overturn their fates or escape the prophecies.
Unless he gave Thor bad bars on purpose, which would be a classic Loki move.
Anyone who actually thinks Zeus won this fight probably missed like half of Thor's bars. Thor just OBLITERATED Zeus in this battle. And it's not like Zeus' bars were weak. In any other battle, he probably would have had won, but Thor was absolutely brutal.
"Shape-shifting rapist" alone ended him
Damn straight
The Vikings also had other cool explorations. For example small idols of buddha and islamic symbols have been found in viking burial sites, and they became the ruling class in russia and served in the Varangian Guard in the Byzantine Empire. Even just after the Viking Period, the Norwegian king went on crusade to the Holy Land, like 40 years after that period ended.
Harald Hårdrada was one of the coolest kings of his time
Greek writer Herodotus is nicknamed the “Father of History,” as he is credited with founding the literary tradition that would become the modern historical process.
Up to that point, writing was primarily used for record keeping.
Herodotus was also the first person to learn never to let the truth get in the way of a good story. Lol
I was coming to write this comment. Accurate. Also no reactor seems to catch the oracle of delphi reference at the end of the battle
The Chinese did it LONG before Herodotus 😆
@@bepbep7418 My kwikmafz suggests it emerged more or less at the same time in China.
@@bepbep7418 Perhaps. Nevertheless, what the West, and by extension most of the rest of the world, regards as "history" stems from the Greek tradition, not the Chinese one
Your hustle is seriously unmatched man. Not only do you create a genuine dialogue about whatever content you’re reacting to. But you pump out more content than 99% of these reactors out here! Running laps around these bozos man keep it up.
Greek mythology basically boils down to Zeus not keeping it in his toga also if Loki had written Thor's line's Zeus would have been running back to Mount Olympus crying like a B*t*h
The glasses look good n.n
Flyte was like an early version of rap battles
The vikings invented rap battles. Who'd of thought.
You were not ready 🤣 As a Greek, I loved how you were trying to make Greek mythology family friendly 😜
If I remember correctly "flyting" is essentially old school rap battles.
She disguised Zeus as a baby, but the key element is that he swallowed them whole.
This one tickles my interest mostly since it's got Norse mythology and I happen to be a heathen (follower of the Norse pantheon).
Thor did not crossdress because of a woman. He crossdressed because Mjolnir (his hammer) had been stolen and the giant king, Thrym, demanded Freya before he would hand it back. Loki convinced Thor to crossdress as Freya and attend 'her' marriage to Thrym. When they got to the giant's hall, the giant noticed 'her' red eyes and appetite and Loki dismissed them as sleeplessness and being anxious about the upcoming nuptials. When Mjolnir was brought out finally, Thor seized it and slew every giant in the hall.
Valhalla is actually where warriors who are chosen by the valkyrie go when they die in battle. Everyone else goes to Helheimr (which is ironically not that bad if you read beyond the hell part of the name unless you were níðingr [honorless]).
Flyting is actually an art form, basically Norse rap battles (which is apropos considering the video XD). The "Loki must have written your lines" part is actually a compliment considering that Loki was FAMOUS for flyting and actually verbally slayed the other gods in the Lokisenna.
Ngl, this is one of the best rap battles in the whole of ERB and I'm glad you covered it!
I really enjoy your breakdowns - really well spoken, well-versed in the topics and fun to watch. Keep at it!
When Zeus said “You’re history, I’ll be the first to put it in writing”, I think he’s referring to the fact that the Norse didn’t have a written language
The Norse did have a written language (Runes)
@@michael_aagaard Not really
@@dragorank8167 What do you mean?
@@michael_aagaard Vikings didn't had any kind of books or smth.
@@dragorank8167 And what does books have to with weather or not a group of people had a written language?
I would suggest that you look up Runestones.
You are the first person on youtube I've heard so far referring to my ancestors the Phoenicians 👍
Flyting was basically a precursor to rap battles which is odd because I don't know of anything that occurred in between as a bridge between the two and Flyting basically ended to my knowledge when Christianity took hold in the areas that were previously Norse.
Would you honestly say that Thor won "THOR-oughly"? 🏆 Thats a bar right there bro. 🤔
It's actually been proven that Leif Eriksson Day, in his viking ship, did indeed land on america over 500 years before Columbus did.
I like the frames👍
Thank you for giving proper respect to the ‘Greece’s GDP’ bar… truly a death knell..
And, as will be, my necessary request for more Aesop Rock
🏔🫀
That "Greece's GDP" line was truly vicious at that time, because Greece had no way out of their economic situation, due to how the EU works. They were at the mercy of Brussels, and Brussels has none. Greece was just spiraling down, down, down, until their masters decided that it was costing themselves too much money.
Chris Hemsworth played Thor. He's nailing Natalie Portman, who played his love interest, Jane.
Thunder down under nailing Natalie Portman is a triple Thunder cuz he's the god of thunder also down under being Australia. But also thunder down under in reference to coitus and being very good at the act.
Another thing he missed is Natalie Portman dressed as the charachter she played in Star Wars
Absolutely one of their best my guy. Such a damn good battle. Also glasses look good!
"Oh he didnt bro"
I can actually assure you that if it existed, Zeus definitely "did" it
The Greek pantheon gets a pretty bad reputation for sure, but the more you read into the Ettas, the primary Norse pantheon (Aesir) were pretty awful as well. Many make the argument that, despite being very rarely mentioned, Loki could be considered more of a hero than a chaotic neutral trickster.
Balder would beg to differ
Correction: Cerberus protect the underworld so no deads can leave, but he allows the living to enter. After all, if you wanna enter and die is up to you
It still makes me chuckle that Helen of Troy, the most beautiful woman in the world, had a twin sister.
Great job with a great battle! That GDP line was murder
Your way of explaining things is so funny man, I love it.
While it’s true that Thor didn’t really fight fair, you have to remember that there’s no such thing as a truly fair fight. The only fair fight is the one you lose.
Actually the giants stole Thor's hammer and Loki was literally: Bro, I have the perfect plan, crossdressing
And in the official scripture of this, Thor, I shit you not, says this: I can't do that! People will think I'm gay!
And Loki said: "Don't worry about it, bro. Just kill them all, and no one will know except you and me. And I literally gave birth to a horse, so you know I ain't saying shit."
Technically Thor's line about Zeus marrying his sister isn't really as much of a bar as Thor himself was married to Sif who was his sister so that line was a bit hypocritical. Incest was also a pretty major part of Norse mythology. Thor and Sif(brother/sister), Fenrir and angrboda (mother/son)
thor still won regardless
I love how knowledgeable you are bro …..love these vids
This is one of my all time fav ERBs. Also, good to see that you can see. Glasses look pretty damn good bro, looking sharp.
10:47 This isn't a claim to being the first writers, although the Phoenicians were basically Greeks. The first known historian was the Greek man Herodotus.
10:00 "In a very jovial way"... very true, considering that Jupiter (or Iove) very much was Zeus transposed into the Roman pantheon.
The giants stole Thor's hammer (Mjolnir) and the only way to get the hammer back was if Freya married the giant. Thor crossdressed (not very well) to pretend to be Freya at the wedding, got his hammer back and killed the giant.
Just discovered your channel. So cool that you’re reacting to these legendary videos while providing interesting information and educating people. Subscribed!
For Chronos, Zeus' mother swaddled the rock to hide it and he just swallowed it whole, like he had with his other children
Aye man the glasses suit you. Very distinguished
"Here is Zeus, eat it" is such a strangely funny line
I certainly enjoy all of your content MrLoyd. I often find your knowledge of all things very vast and informative. That being said might i suggest the breaks in the videos to explain things a little further spaced, they seem to be getting shorter and shorter. Your brain works so fast you are explaining everything line by line before we get a chance to think of the meaning ourselves lol.
Love your overall knowledge about everything (been watching all your reaction to these battles)!
Just correcting some here for people who want's to know the story "facts" correctly.
1. Medusa was one of the 3 gorgon sisters. The mixed human-animals are called chimeras (the same time in the stories Chimera was also a specific creature combination of lion-goat-snake). So technically Medusa was a chimera too but in the battle they refer to gorgons as the three sisters.
2. Chronos didn't make a difference between a rock or flesh due the fact that he swallowed his kids whole. That was also the reason why Zeus got his siblings out of him whole and grown up (no idea how they survived or ate in there though).
Yea this is for sure one of the absolute best 😍😎
Small sidenote. The vikings reaching NA 500 years b4 Columbus is not a theory. Its a fact 👍
Love the vidss
Loki was a master of flyting, so it’s not exactly a dis to say that he wrote Thor’s lines. On the other hand, Loki was a trickster, so he could’ve deliberately messed with the lines to make Thor look bad
I found this channel today and thought that he looks like a solid reactor (it's a thing now, right?). I was a bit on the fence but this video closed the deal. The guy knows his stuff and has some solid arguments. Keep on doing the good work and if someone with much deeper pockets than mine (from his Patreon or something) sees this, have him react to Nanowar of Steel (Maybe start with Valhallelujah since he likes mythology) :P
So in ancient Greece when someone died they would put two drachma on the eyes of the deceased so they could pay the ferryman to take them down the river Styx to the afterlife. Your deeds in life determined which part of Hades you would spend eternity in. I cant remember the names of the realms though.
Damn i always love hearing this battle
YAAAAAY, I'VE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS!
You wearing glasses to protect your eyes from this glory!
Wasn't Zeus like just absolutely terrified of Cerberus? Also the line where Zeus talks about MC Hammer, the MC could also stand for Marvel Comics, making it a three-layer deep bar.
The Olympians were generally terrified of Hades.
You are a very intelligent person you seem to know a little about everything I’ve watched almost all your videos keep it up bro respect
The line "You're history, I'll be the first to put it in writing" refers to the Greeks (more specifically, Herodotus) technically inventing history (as we know it). What he invented is more accurately called historiography, it gave us the subject of history as we learn it today which is more than just a bunch of separate letters, journal entries, and chronicles.
You spend the rewards of your educational endeavors on Epic Rap Battles Of History. I love it.
Gotta say, glasses look great on ya m'dude!
As someone else said, flyting is the precursor to rap battles. The Vikings were the being of such battles.
The glasses look great man. Hopefully the vision issue isn't too serious. Take as much time as you need, I'm sure we can all agree with that. God speed and good luck, we're all counting on you.
Your glasses are cool sir! No complaints 😊
Your glasses look great on you btw. They suit you well.
Very dope glasses my good sir.
Glasses look good. I’m late 40s now and the eyes are goin, been puttin’ it off for too long. #$@!
Great reaction!
Please do the Pokemon ERB (Ash Ketchum versus Darwin)
A "viking" is also a brand of oven/stove. When it "dies" it needs a lighter to get lit.
Chronos was a Titan and ate the children by swallowing them whole. The stone was completely wrapped in swaddling cloth when swallowed and his haste prevented him from checking. As to the rescue the 2 most popular stories are that Zues came back many years later in disguise and gave his father a drink with a bitter herb in it that caused him to spit up Hades, Poseidon, Hera, Demeter, and the last I can't remember after which they overthrew the Titans, the other story is that after he swallowed the rock he fell asleep from the heavy meal and baby Zues cut open the stomach of Chronos releasing his siblings.
I am pretty sure that the line "loki must have written your lines" is a diss that refers to the fact that in norse mythology thor is garbage at flyting. He loses to loki on the regular and resorts to his hammer. The one time he did make a good showing was when loki did "write his lines".
Groovy Frames, mate
This is hilarious, I’m impressed by the breath of knowledge.
Thor was a savage beast on this track
Hey, glasses are great. Now you get to do the dramatic removal for killer lines.
i've had the nice/norse line stuck in my head all day
Flyting was the original form of “battle rapping” . It was two people using clever wordplay to insult each other
That’s very possible, but also the additional meaning is the “flight of the Valkyries” they are the Shield maidens of Valhalla and carry off the dead from the field of battle
@@louiswillhauck5572 right, but that’s where context comes into play. Thor’s phrasing of “… flyte it out” implies he meant it exactly the way I originally interpreted.
Flyteing not sure if ive spelt that right is basically a poem battle
Thor actor is Chris Hemsworth who is australia
Also believe i read something about a month ago confirming vikings did reach north america first
The phoenicians still worshipped the Hellenic gods. So Zues' "I'll be the first to put it in writing." Is accurate.
Just a thought. Is it possible the bar from Thor of "I'll drop you like Greece's GDP" could also be him calling Zues 'morally bankrupt'?
Greece went bankrupt as a nation (I think I remember hearing about that)
'Morally Bankrupt' meaning violating ones own core moral values, which does describe Zues.
I am so glad to find a reactor who actually appreciated the Greece’s GDP diss, let alone to the point where it instantly won the battle for Thor. I’ve seen so many reactions to this battle and that absolutely brutal line either flies over the reactor’s head or they at best are bemused by it.
One of my favorites
One thing that a lot of people sleep on is the "get your daddy on the phone" line.
According to the mythology, Thor's mother is the primordial giantess who *is* the Earth. I forget what the Norse called her, but the Greeks called her Gaia, Zeus's GRANDMOTHER. Which would make Thor Zeus's uncle.
You be rocking those glasses 👓
Great reaction, the mythological breakdown is on point. But the cross-dressing thing was a slight inaccuracy: The giants stole Thor's hammer, and Loki arranged a swap for the giant-king to marry an asgardian woman in exchange for giving the hammer back. Thor doesn't negotiate with terrorists, so he dressed up as a woman to be wed to the giant-king and fled with the hammer while the wedding party was drunk.
I believe the cross dressing part was a plan of Loki's to help Thor get his hammer back from the giants.
Flyting is basically a old-norse rap battle
they weren't the ones who invented written language, but Herodotus created what we now know as 'History Studies' as a semiotic branch from his studies compilated in the homonomous book 'Historia' (or 'that of which I know' :)
I believe this book registered the first 'Olympic' marathon, which is why the Usain bar is even better :)
Lol the way you try to explain the dirty stuff so properly makes me laugh
This one it one of my favorites
Off topic but those glasses are dope. What kind of frames are they?
www.framesdirect.com/adidas-or5004-eyeglasses?color=3
I love the Glasses;)
This one might be my favorite :)
Chris Hemsworth played Thor and his love interest was played by Natalie Portman ;)
Your the only person who realised how hard that GDP bar actually is
All the royals throughout Europe were related so technically we didn't start frowning upon incest until the turn of the century like around 1912, at least in western civilization.
The Flyte bar is actually cause apparently the Norse use to argue in rhyme so it’s kinda like the fire Ferber of modern battle rapping
The "Thunder down under, nailing Natalie Portman," bit is a reference to Chris Hemsworth (the thunder down under), the actor who plays Thor in the marvel movies being Australian. In those movies, his character is romantically involved with Natalie Portman's character. As far as I can figure, that's the entirety of the reference.
"the Vikings discovered America before Columbus" except for the millions of people who already discovered North and South America by living there for centuries.
Greased Lighting is a reference to the car in the musical Grease
natalie portman's character and Thor kinda had a thing in the Thor movies. I believe in the new Thor movie, she becomes Lady Thor.