Kind of confirms what I've always suspected. 1- The involvement of Steve Cinchetto (Tuinal dealer, supposedly unstable character. In later life he turned to the Catholic Church so possible guilt complex over Nancy's death? 2- Sid is incapacitated due to Tuinal on night of her death, and would have used his own blade. Yet why when he loved her to bits. They fought when intoxicated yes, but never escalated to attempting to kill one another. 3- Crime scene, too clean and obviously been wiped, missing money, lots of money 4- Mysterious individual known as Michael disappears around the same time 5- Police have redacted the names of five suspects in official records 6- Peter Kodick/ Gravelle knows more, apparently he obtained strong heroin from a batch ordered by Keith Richards from an Englishwoman known as Maggie as upcoming Rolling Stones gigs in US at the time. Same woman supplies heroin to John Belushi who dies from a speedball several years later. Allegedly she can travel under diplomatic immunity as her father works in British embassy 6- Rockets Redglare is and never was a real suspect. Too obvious 7- Anne Beverley is more involved. Sid is looking at long sentence and wants to check out? Twisted mercy killing? 8- Hotshot, there have been suggestions, also misadventure as Sid's tolerance is low following enforced detoxification. However heroin alone is not in his bloodstream, our old friend Tuinal pops up. Notorious for amplifying effects of opioids Mmm, maybe John Lyndon has the right idea. We will never know. Smack happened, Rock'nRoll mystery. Maybe keep it that way RIP Sid'n'Nancy❤
@@BootlegGarage108 You're right there. Would be a different result today, most definitely. Still very interesting. I've never seen the footage you uploaded. Bators was involved in that scene which was very small. Nice one man😎
I would watch Sad Vacation docu or Who killed Nancy both informative if you are interested in this case. Very revealing and puts a lot of the myths in perspective
trying not to talk about it or think about it, but the camera man blatantly zoomed in on it. any way there is aor at least was an awesome video similar to this with Sid and Nancy and Stiv and Cynthia all together.
Rockets Redglare (born Michael Morra; May 8, 1949 - May 28, 2001) Not an official police suspect, but some say it was him. He sold dope back then and may have been there that night.
Stiv really sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I believe he does.
Stiv looks here like a cross between Alice Cooper, Ric Ocasek and John Lennon!
RIP Stiv and Sid. Gone too soon.
Been watching/reading about this for years, this seems like the most genuine, reliable account I've come across.
I believe what he is saying about that night is probably what happened.
I met him in 1982 and he told me the same story.
Lucky
Stiv seemed like a down to earth guy. This does seem like the more logical conclusion on what happened, in my opinion.
Kind of confirms what I've always suspected.
1- The involvement of Steve Cinchetto (Tuinal dealer, supposedly unstable character. In later life he turned to the Catholic Church so possible guilt complex over Nancy's death?
2- Sid is incapacitated due to Tuinal on night of her death, and would have used his own blade. Yet why when he loved her to bits. They fought when intoxicated yes, but never escalated to attempting to kill one another.
3- Crime scene, too clean and obviously been wiped, missing money, lots of money
4- Mysterious individual known as Michael disappears around the same time
5- Police have redacted the names of five suspects in official records
6- Peter Kodick/ Gravelle knows more, apparently he obtained strong heroin from a batch ordered by Keith Richards from an Englishwoman known as Maggie as upcoming Rolling Stones gigs in US at the time. Same woman supplies heroin to John Belushi who dies from a speedball several years later. Allegedly she can travel under diplomatic immunity as her father works in British embassy
6- Rockets Redglare is and never was a real suspect. Too obvious
7- Anne Beverley is more involved. Sid is looking at long sentence and wants to check out? Twisted mercy killing?
8- Hotshot, there have been suggestions, also misadventure as Sid's tolerance is low following enforced detoxification. However heroin alone is not in his bloodstream, our old friend Tuinal pops up. Notorious for amplifying effects of opioids
Mmm, maybe John Lyndon has the right idea. We will never know. Smack happened, Rock'nRoll mystery. Maybe keep it that way
RIP Sid'n'Nancy❤
Back than they didn't look into cases as deep as they do know especially 2 know drug addicts.
@@BootlegGarage108 You're right there. Would be a different result today, most definitely. Still very interesting. I've never seen the footage you uploaded. Bators was involved in that scene which was very small. Nice one man😎
Absolutely bang on. Too many holes in the official narrative. NYPD didn’t care to investigate.
On top of being a great guy Stiv was smart AF. Happy to have spent some time with him. ❤
@@robbiewarden really that's awesome
I would watch Sad Vacation docu or Who killed Nancy both informative if you are interested in this case. Very revealing and puts a lot of the myths in perspective
Well, that cleared that up :/ Any wonder it was never solved with witnesses like this?
Rockets Redglare is the dealer he's talking about
Amen stiv , I have a 007 blade and mine still has the leather tong
What happened to Stiv's mouth? damn.
I believe he got that from eating baloney off of the stage floor at CBGBs.
It’s called a Stiv.
@@jake6t9mmmmm, stage bologna!
right ? I don't remember it like that when he was in the lords ?
He had a scar through the side of his upper lip.
trying not to talk about it or think about it, but the camera man blatantly zoomed in on it. any way there is aor at least was an awesome video similar to this with Sid and Nancy and Stiv and Cynthia all together.
interesting
So Stiv is saying the killers name was Michael?
Rockets Redglare (born Michael Morra; May 8, 1949 - May 28, 2001)
Not an official police suspect, but some say it was him. He sold dope back then and may have been there that night.
sid was innocent
Whats wrong with his lip?
He had a big mole there that he most of removed at a later date. You can see it in other pics, his lip on on side was still a little swollen.
What is going on with his upper lip?!?!
Herpes