Apple River stabbing trial: Heated exchange regarding evidence
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- The defense argued that a video of Nicolae Miu during his arrest should not be played in court. Prosecutors say that the video proves Miu knew that one of the victims was deceased ahead of his police interview.
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![Apple River stabbing trial: Prosecution questions Nicolae Miu [FULL]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mQi8ksdcRn8/mqdefault.jpg)
Defence lawyer is more intelligent than the prosecutor
Good thing the evidence is so damming. Nicolea Miu is murderer weather or not the prosecution is intelligent.
I do agree
AGREED
The defense team absolutely smoked them. If he’s found guilty I’ll be amazed.
@@michaelmurphy2612.. he stabbed 5 people and one to death !
the prosecutor can't even quote the video correctly while using notes 😂😂
😂 for realll
All of the witness’
‘How many people did you see”?
Them “yes”
Wow I’m surprised they ever cooled down after that heated exchange!
😂😂😂😂
Lol I have more heated exchanges with my cat
whatchu mean, it was HEATED until the bitter end of this video
Imagine with no video evidence this man would have been buried!
Yes! So scary.
Still waiting for the heated exchange.
The defense lawyer is one sharp cookie
Nic is an engineer. He probably has good money. And he used it to choose a damn good lawyer. 👍🏼
Yet he still lost🥰
This was not a heated exchange, even by Midwest standards.
Lol
😂
This prosecutor is getting his ass handed to him ...
Good thing the evidence is so damming. Nicolea Miu is murderer weather or not the prosecution is intelligent.
Well, it’s a government employee vs a guy that probably charges $1,000/hr.
The Prosecutor has this in the bag.
@@tanksherman9875good! The govt has almost infinite resources. Everyone should get a million dollar lawyer.
I'm just curious to if you thought Kyle Rittenhouse was guilty? @@hollyrock911
It's the judge from "Night Court".
I KNEW that he looks familiar…
YASSSSS!!! I said the SAME thing in another video!! ( the actor was Harry Anderson). He looks JUST like him!! Where is the bailiff Bull??😂😂lol
The prosecution comes off like a bunch of lawyers who barely graduated from Ajax Law School and the cops from Mayberry top it off. The witnesses are mostly people who should be in treatment for chemical dependency and couldn't remember what they had for breakfast if their lives depended on it. No way that Mui is found guilty .
Good thing the video evidence is so damming. Nicolea Miu is a murderer weather or not the prosecution is intelligent, or whether you like the testimony of the witnesses. The video shows him walking toward the victims, holding their tubes in place, throwing the first punch, and no one blocks his retreat. Nicolae Miu is a murderer clean and simple.
Agreed!💯‼
🤡🤡
this is Wisconsin
Diploma privilege all you need to know
Can we all agree on how amateur the prosecutors are. They don't even stand when addressing the court. And sure seems the prosecutors enjoy there per diem
Your grammar is trash
can we agree NOTHING SHOULD BE GAGGED! that's fascist!
Good thing the evidence is so damming. Nicolea Miu is a murderer weather or not the prosecution is intelligent.
What are you talking about? The PROSECUTOR stood while the DEFENSE attorney NEVER stood when addressing the court. You got it backwards.
They don’t stand because they are so overweight that it would be too much of an effort.
You can’t instigate conflict & assault a gentleman simply looking for a phone, then act surprised when he defends himself.. 🤷♂️
He instigated the argument by approaching them
There was no reason to pull a knife. He was a drunk old dude with an ego problem and a knife. Bad combination.
It would be %100 unamerican not to teach those kids wassup!!!
@@evafjerstad461police confirmed he was not intoxicated like the other punk people.
@@keli449 his eyes in the videos sure looked glazed over. That makes it even worse if he was sober. Any reasonable adult would have just walked away, Not pull a knife and disembowel five people.
STAND up when addressing the judge!! What the eff is going on
They're on the same team, but ok. Lmao
Jury not present so he doesn't have to stand
Big - lazy & seems inexperienced
You've obviously never been in a courtroom before, and get your information from tv.
@@iguess2739 I was military police and taught to stand. Maybe different in Canada,
"Mess w the Bull you get the horns"
Yeah ..real big and bad now sitting behind bars. That f around n find out backfired on his ego.
@@stephanieann2607Oh really, Stephanie? Because that dead teenager phucked around and found out, too, now didn't he....?
Maybe punk a$$ teenagers need to learn to mind their own business.
@@stephanieann2607nah he has not been convicted. Punk, drunk a**, people!
@@stephanieann2607he didn't stab them based on words. He only stabbed in response to being assaulted
Basically click bait.
Thank you for saving me the ten minutes.
Yeah this channel is shameless
The defense lawyer having to school the prosecutor.
THAT was heated?😂
😅😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is the LEAST “heated argument” I’ve ever seen.
The friends and the way they tried to get a viral moment is why this happen.
Sure they wanted to be stabbed??????????
@@rochellestarr9538 Did THEY try to deescalate? No, they didn't, did they. They were emboldened by superior numbers and drunken actions and paid a price. Think they'll ever act out like this in public again?
Why are they acting like this dude set out to kill someone?
They can’t even prove pre meditation.. he had a pocket knife not a butcher or kitchen knife.
they system processes these tragedies like a Cuisinart. It's their living Media too.
because he did !
NOT GUILTY
he just looks sad and broken.
Because he got caught lmao
That is the closest thing to remorse or any emotion he has shown.
It’s hard for the prosecutors to stand up, at least 100 pounds overweight each
WHAT???! The DEFENSE attorneys are the big ones! The prosecutors are closest to the camera! You got it backwards.
@@user-qr2kh6uh6q the defendant sits with the defense not the prosecutors
this is normal in Wisconsin
You can SEE his eyes get big when he hears homicide. So maybe that was when he realized someone potentially died...
Yeah, or maybe his mind is racing and it 'didn't register' as the saying goes. He could be running through the gang attack on him over and over again wondering why he is being arrested, and is merely hearing 'you'll speak with the investigator'. *It's a perfect example of why one shouldn't say ANYTHING to cops...not even an "ok".* Mui should have just kept saying: 'hospital..please I..hospital'
Gutting someone and stabbing 4 others, but you don't think anyone died... Right. In the attack video the knife didn't seem that big, but when the investigator opened it up it was def 4" way more than enough to kill, but he didn't know that he just stabbed 5 people. Ok.
You haven't seen the video have you. He definitely knew what he did.
@@benh9781
What if "knew what he did" was "defending himself from a violent gang assault"?
@@thomasg4324 Show me when the gang assaulted. And do you mean they assaulted with mockery, words or mean looks, because they didn't approach him, hit him, or murder him until they were fighting for their lives.
czcams.com/video/jAmX2ajj1fM/video.html
Nicolae Miu ran toward the confrontation instead of away. 0:03
Nicolae Miu grabbed at a stranger instead of using words. 0:07
Nicolae Miu refused to back away from the those mocking him. 0:30
Nicolae Miu continued to refuse to back away and approached the conflict. 1:03
Nicolae Miu pulls a knife out of his pocket before anyone touches him and while he still has ample space to leave the situation. You can see the knife at 1:46
Nicolae Miu knocks sunglasses off the woman in the blue suite turning the encounter violent. 1:50
Nicolae Miu Stabs a victim. 1:55
Nicolae Miu Stabs a victim. 1:59
Nicolae Miu chases and stabs a victim turned and walking away from him. 2:00
Nicolae Miu refuses to leave and stabs another victim. 2:04
Nicolae Miu Stabs a victim. 2:05
Nicolae Miu still doesn't leave but looks around at what he has done. 2:07
Nicolae Miu finally leaves like he could have at any time. 2:17
The kids instigated the entire thing also gained up on the guy and hit him and pushed him first. Laughed and taunted him.
The kids are at fault. All of them should be charged.
Why are the prosecuting attorneys sitting on their butts???
Obesity
@@W0nkaaa Oof
Not standing up during a prosecution to talk,is a lack of respect to the judge .
If I was the parent of the murdered teen I would be livid with this prosecutor. I've watched most of the trial and he has been insanely amateurish. I haven't looked up his credentials but I certainly will. Also, like everyone else is saying, stand up and have some respect.
There was no murder. The reason the prosecutor seems amateurish is the state does not have a good case and better prosecutors likely did not want this loss on their record. You are watching the JV team play in a college level game.
@@memyself3275 A teenager was murdered no?
So what’s those creds law dawg?
At a point they attacked the old man ferociously...he had to defend himself.
If this guy is declared innocent, he should sue all the " teenagers " that attacked him. This is a case of Self Defense.
Yeah! Id like to see pictures of maddies swollen eye, thats if it is even true?
I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
" I only watched it once, " briefly, said the Judge. What was he watching instead that could be more important?
I know i would be intimidated just by 2 drunk people berating, humiliating, assulting me.
This case Creates to much Reasonable doubt!! That's a fact.
WTH is the prosecution blabbering about?
This is the most unprepared prosecutor ever.
Gang of thugs assaulted him
Lmao
Yup. That’s for sure.
Actually the so called "thugs" didn't touch him until after the nerd laid him out. Lmao this dangerous immigrant is getting life.
@@fatee5069your great grand mother or father was an immigrant. Grab their bones and get tf out too
WHICH ONE OF THEM WAS STABBED????????????
The incompetent impotent prosecution.
how insane is it that a judge can pick and choose what the jury gets to see in terms of evidence such as video of the arrest.
So heated.
these judges and their leniency are destroying our communities
He's clutching at straws everybody can clearly see what happen on the video
When a defendant plans on taken the stand he should not be in the courtroom! During arguments?
I think they should be able to play an entire video. Doesn’t matter what it hurts or helps. Our system is broken and criminals get out free and clear because of stupid loop holes and who has a better lawyer and money. We have no true justice in America.
Never heard a heated argument
Misleading post, it wasn't heated.
He obviously had the knife that stabbed the people. No one else had a knife.
I am praying for not guilty. No one deserves what happened. They taunted him, surrounded him, and attacked him. He feared for his life and defended himself.
same
You probably think that 20 people are all lying that he punched a woman and they conspired together to have multiple people mention it in real time on the video.
Omg! He walked up to them! Being a total weirdo! Have you been on a float trip? You stay with your own group...not creeping around teen boys! All he had to do was say hey guys I'm looking for phone! And they would have been fine....he was looking for trouble! I feel horrible for the momma of that beautiful boy! He had no right to just start slashing! He could of held it up and said stop I have a knife!
Same, not guilty. Video shows everything
I hope not guilty.
The law should be taught in school and mandatory to graduate.
Note to self: If ever arrested do not say one word including OK ! Guess I am a little unclear as to why this would be relevant?
I like this judge. He seems very bright.
How can you be seated and talk to a judge? Is this a Wisconsin thing?
Yaweh,
In Jesus name teach the tweenie punks
that you control justice not the liars.
Kangaroo Court bye the DA
It never makes sense to me that jurors are expected to come to an informed verdict, but in many cases are not given all the information.
Not letting certain things in bc “it may be prejudicial”, or it may “influence the jury” : it’s supposed to.
So often crucial information is kept from the jury and guilty people walk. That makes zero sense.
Who is the Jared Leto impersonator at the prosection desk?
Nik is Guilty on all charges! Throw the key away
I have commented to this case quite a few times by now... all in all it should never have happend... and yes the boys verbaly assaulted or insulted him... but he could have deescalated it by leaving the area or tell them to move on etc... all involved made mistakes that day... but he was the one who brandished that knife and killed the one boy and serverly injured all the others for life... to me it is not a clear self defence case... one thing l do not understand is, have they only tables for two in that court room? Why is the defendant sitting without a tabe on the side of the defencetable... that is odd...
I thought the same thing about him sitting at the end of the table
Maybe one was self defense the first was not the death was not
@@lindaashmore1246 bit he assaulted that woman with the knife first... there was no need... he was not in danger for life then... and because of what happend with these woman everything escalated more then he injured that woman serverly and then hell brought loose...
There is no justification for this!He began the fight by punching a woman.Its telling that he would punch HER with all of those guys standing there.No doubt the kids were drunk and rude but there isnt a mark on this man.Rude doesnt deserve to be killed!The other thing that would get me as a juror is the force that he used with such a small knife.He didnt just stab the kid with the stomach wound ,he gutted him with moving the knife while stabbing him.Thats not seld defense,thats intent to kill.
@@rochellestarr9538 This case is a hard one... the look in his eyes when the incidents happend are telling aswell in parts... there are many differend opinions in all the comments either people think it is clearly selfdefence and the others guilty... time will tell what happens to him... and how these jurs see it in the end... lam sorry for all victims and familys involved and all who witnessed and had to deal in any other way with this incident
Not guilty. Then sue these entitled brats and their useless parents for all the emotional turmoil and financial distress.
That's what I said.😉
Oh, but he is guilty. All you need to see is the video. It's clear that Nicolae Miu approaches instead of creating distance, maintains contact instead of waking away, escalates by throwing the first punch, then buy pulling out a knife. He stabs and stabs and stabs and stabs and stabs and stabs before leaving. He could have left and any time during the interaction. Are the victims "entitled brats". Doesn't matter, because here in America we have the right to speech. Nicolae Miu thought the words of others gave him the right to murder. Nicolae Miu is guilty. czcams.com/video/jAmX2ajj1fM/video.html
But having the whole video shown on this news station invalidates the judges order to only show a certain portion of the video
The jury only sees what’s played in the courtroom. They’re not allowed to watch the news, research the case or talk to anyone about the case while the case is still in process.
@@SavedByTheBloodOfJesus777 good luck with that nowadays
He was probably in shock he was Assaulted,
Taunted and He defended himself
By punching and stabbing? Is Nicholas not fully fn guilty of killing and mortally stabbing 5 people and punching women? Absolutely he is. Regardless of the fact he could have just stopped drunk harassing and moved away from his victims.
He was in shock and his story/statements didnt rhyme. Let the video of the attack speak for itself.
I wonder about this DA, why weren't any of the youth changed? Underage drinking, assault? After watching the videos i believe these young adults are responsible for happened. During testimony, they all sounded the same, answered the same as if they were coached
Seems like a fair judge.
Rittenhouse judge was the best!
I’m sorry, but I’ve got to strongly negatively critique the State’s inability to argue their point to get this video admitted…yes, when Miu was FIRST told that he was being arrested for homicide, he did NOT in any way affirmatively acknowledge that he heard/understood that statement….HOWEVER (& this is a HUGE however)- the officer’s SECOND statement contained a reiteration of being told he was being arrested for homicide, AS WELL AS thst he was then being taken to the station for questioning. THIS WAS ALL ONE STATEMENT, CONTAINING MULTIPLE PIECES OF INFORMATION…to which Miu, then acknowledges.
I am STRONGLY DISAPPOINTED in the State not fighting for their admission using this to their advantage 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Ever hear of someone being in SHOCK, prosecutor?
The man has no history of violence and he was traumatized by this assault and having to defend himself which caused the life of a teenager. That has to be traumatic for him too.
He’s a victim here too
Heated exchange? CLICKBAIT TITLES ALWAYS GET A THUMBS DOWN FROM ME 👎🏻
Dismiss this insane charge of an innocent man who was subjected to an attack and immediately charge the youths with assault.
If you are going to charge some teens with assault for pushing ( I’m excluding the one kid that did punch him) then going around to every school in the country and charge those kids too…..oh is that a no….that’s what I thought
These comment threads are full of extra national trolls
Where is the interrogation video
Mmm...misleading caption. There is one thing they did NOT consider in the video. That was his non-objecting demeanor. In other words, he never objected to being under arrest, nor that it was for a homicide. Now with that said, it would be then reasonable to assume that he knew what he did and that said, him not responding self-defense" at that point, could mean he simply was not sure whether it could be considered "self-defense", as most folks do not understand the fine lines between these things. Yes he was entitled to the 5th, but he never stated "I invoke the 5th" either. It is a fact juries may not assume you guilty if you invoke the 5th. It rather seems he looked and realized he was defeated, meaning he knew what he did was wrong or bad.
Now with all THAT said, I believe the jury will use the video evidence and reason among themselves, mostly disregarding the opinions of anyone else about it. There is great video here. The law somewhat does expect adults to be more responsible than teenagers, but these guys are young adults themselves. It would be interesting to hear the jury instruction to that particular point of age and age differences here. I'm juror number one, and I say the response of this guy outweighed the "fear" he could have felt, as I see no fear really, I see anger and I see defiance and ego being hurt, not fear. I also see no de-escalation from him in the form of words, reasonably expected from someone not wanting to escalate. He never says "come on guys I'm sorry lets just all calm down, and then try to walk away. He sees no weapon in anyone's hands and I think reasonable he saw no weapons yet chose to use a weapon. No-one punched him either, they just pushed him away.
So he cannot reasonably translate that into a self-defense needed to THAT degree, stabbing them.
As juror number one, I will give him the benefit of doubt to the degree that perhaps his drunkenness made him reason he was in some danger, so he acted. I will recommend man 1, on the homicide, and reckless endangerment. Both combined to 17 years, 10 for the first and 7 for the latter. Then there are assault as well, public drunkenness, public disturbance, but things are a bit sketchy as to who assaulted who, everyone drank and disturbed the peace. I don't know the charges here, but that would be what I would have charged, man 1 and class A misdemeanor reckless endangerment. Homicide and attempted homicide sounds like murder 2 and attempted murder, or perhaps murder 2. I cannot see murder one charges here, nor attempted murder, it is possible as you can decide in seconds if you want to kill someone, but here it is too sketchy too spontaneous in the heat of the instance.
Prosecutor graduated from trump University
You got the TDS real bad sir.
@@memyself3275 what?
@@monsterhog1118 TDS. You have it bad mam.
@@memyself3275 you are a trump hater?
@@monsterhog1118 Here, let me google that for you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
Fox9 clicking the bait....already over abundance of their You Tube channel clicks with this mess of a trial.
This lawyer is going about it the wrong way
He WASNT under arrest when rhevconversation took place
He had NOT been placed under arrest and had not been read his rights
Meaning it can not be relied upon in court
The video has already been shown and he clearly didn’t admit to anything
NO RIGHTS WERE READ
CLICKBAIT!!! There was NO "heated" exchange.
Wonder if the ppl that r whispering knows that we can all hear them??!!!So wht's up.....
Another ALCOHOL induced tragedy. Period. Adult vs 17 yr old. Knife vs Fist ... idk😢
Release this man already!!! He was terrified and in shock as well as the rest of the group.
He’s being released alright…into the custody of the state penitentiary!
Im still shocked he stabbed 5 people. Like wtf nobody said anything or ran
NEW DEFINITION OF "HEATED", NOT EVEN WARM.
There's no heated exchange 🙄
I don't know why I expected a local news channel to not click bait their community.
💰 📰 💰 🗞️
If the cops screwed this up over M Rights that sucks
So unorganized and unprofessional. The judge is the only one that’s doing his job
I’m having a really hard time feeling sorry for these spoiled brats. May sound cold hearted but they are not 13 years old!!!!!
One of these two got better grades in Law School.
This is terrible everyone needs to stop with the instigating and physical alter altercations because its becoming way too much have some respect
Now I understand everyone is saying that the prosecuting lawyers are “amateurs”. I genuinely want to know what your guy’s reaction will be if he is charged with homicide and attempted homicide
@thestudy4880 yes I am sorry
These defense lawyers put words in the mouth of every person. These lawyers are not speaking the same language as the kids. Lawyers are saying in his face to every kid and the kids are saying yes she was in front of him. Not the same language. These lawyers are so leading
He killed someone and injured others. He can be found guilty with lying with the investigator and police but I think based on how the teenager's cruel treatment to him, he should get lesser prison time. 😢 Obviously he didn't just attack them for no reason. Although, he should had walked away, and the teenagers could of treated him with respect and kindness, it could turn out differently. But he should face lesser prison time.
WOW- that was such a horrible heated exchange between the attorneys.........🙄🙄🙄 Stupid click bait......
THEY DON'T BICKER
The defendant acted surprised... As much as the punks that thought they were attacking a helpless victim that turned out to be a raid boss?
Biased judge 🤡
The jury is who convicted him, DUH!
This prosecutor is a clown
#FREE_MIU!
This really is a tough case to judge, i dont envy the judge as the culprit clearly is a victim if not the main victim, yes he was not killed but in one sense he had a charcter assassination for no ryhme or reason, then he was brutaly attacked and had he not used the knife he may well have been beat choked and or drowned again for no ryhme or reason, he shouldnt be on trial while many of those thugs should be on trial for crimes from assault, breach of the peace and attempted murder
HE IS A CRIMINAL. HE IS GOING TO PRISON. THE DEFENDANT LIED ABOUT THE WEAPON. HE IS FINISHED. NO REASON TO LIE IF IT WAS SELF DEFENSE.
@@jonsnow300watch all the videos it was either him or them....
Nah he’s a murderer and you support murder. Sick
Are you actually serious coz If you are your obviously a physico like that thing that's on trial
The kids are at fault. Walk away and don't drink smoke and fight with people u don't know. Did u expect nic to walk away after being ambushed
If he was so threatened why did he smile and wave to his group instead of asking for help? There was not one time he looked worried for his life. Even when getting slapped up. Now what he did do was engage the teens, lunge at them which caused them to all get up, pull a blade, knock off lady's shades, grab people to stab, and ditch the murder weapon.
How are you people so incompetent to what you're literally watching? Lmao this guy is not leaving prison.
He was "SO THREATENED" that he turned around and went back?I dont give a damn what they called him or how drunk they were.Why assault the woman when all those guys were standing there?
Your sentence structure is that of an 8yr old inner city child.
Yes this is him being elusive , he’s elusive ,
Such bullshit! These dumbass laws is what the problem is. Who gives a shit. He said it. He goes in. EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE PROVING GUILT & EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE PROVING INNOCENCE GOES IN!
IMAGINE THE AMOUNT OF TRUTH THE JURY NEVER GETS TO SEE. IT'S FUCKING PATHETIC & OUR JUDGES SHOULD BE ASHAMED!
The moobs on this guy
Soy is not good for men, even men who stab kids and punch women