West Papua - the 5 minute guide
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- On 1 December 1961, the people of West Papua rasied the Morning Star flag for the first time - a symbol of promised self-determination. 62 years later - today - and West Papuans are STILL fighting for independence.
For more information about the Free West Papua movement, and to sign up for the Free West Papua newsletter, please visit: www.freewestpapua.org/
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Music: V. V. Campos / A Burning Flame - courtesy of Epidemic Sound
Chapters
The Morning Star Flag 00:00
Dutch New Guinea & Indonesia 00:57
The New York Agreement 02:36
The Act of Free Choice 02:36
Indonesian rule of West Papua 03:26
Free West Papua movement 03:55
Time to act 05:01
#westpapua
SOME SOURCES USED TO MAKE THIS VIDEO:
Free West Papua campaign: www.freewestpapua.org/
Green State Vision: greenstatevision.info/
National Security Archives file on the Act of Free Choice: nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB128/
Human Rights Abuses in West Papua, Yale Law School: law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/Intellectual_Life/West_Papua_final_report.pdf
Press freedom in West Papua - letter to the Guardian written by British parliamentarians: www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jul/22/freedom-of-the-press-in-indonesian-occupied-west-papua
Reuter’s reporter Hugh Lunn’s account of oppression in West Papua before the Act of Free Choice: web.archive.org/web/20130917101012/newint.org/features/1999/11/05/free/
ICJ ruling about Chagos Islands: www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/28/un-court-rejects-uk-claim-to-chagos-islands-in-favour-of-mauritius
1962 Dutch New Guinea newsreel footage courtesy of Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision
why stop at west Papua, Indonesia is an archipelago of Islands, why not advocate each island becomes its own country, after all you have countries as small as Monaco
Do you honestly think every island in the world should be an independent country?! That's pretty reckless thinking, don't you think?
@@FredoRockwell same way I don't think you honestly think every minority in non western and non western aligned countries should secede and form thier own countries. inner Mongolia being a case in point, I'm still waiting for new Mexico independence video.
@@edwardsnowden8821 I don't understand your comment. Do you think I've advocated the position you describe at any point? If I have, please point it out. I don't remember drawing any firm conclusions on Inner Mongolia video. I drew fairly negative conclusions about the Biafra video. As a general principle, I think secession and declaring independence is a huge risk and should only be considered by any group of people as a last resort. There are regimes around the world that put their citizens in a position where they think this is the right choice (rightly or wrongly). I don't taking this position could be construed as supporting independence for every minority group everywhere. Try again.
@@FredoRockwell I'm in Nigeria right now. Biafra was a largely igbo driven secession movement, but guess what, the territory Biafra claims contains more than 30 other different and significant minorities like the ( Ibibio, Efik, isoko, etc) who don't support being part of Biafra. if igbos really got Biafra i.e the Igbo homeland Biafra would be a landlocked country dependent on Nigeria for everything somewhat akin to south Africa and the country located entirely within its borders.
It's true and correct 💯.
That's why today we as the Indigenous Peoples of West Papua never give up to fight against Colonialism of Indonesia in our ancestors Island of West Papua New Guinea.
Wenda is Indos Agents who fought like NGO to Protect Human Rights and Forest. So now ULMWP was took over by Menase Tabuni
Oh, here we go again! Papua New Guinea's having a looting party, and everyone's invited! The chaos is hitting the headlines faster than a celebrity scandal. Now, if Papua thinks it can handle independence like a boss, it better take some serious notes from this dumpster fire. Because let's face it, if they can't keep the peace and protect people's stuff, they're in for a wild ride. It's like watching a circus without a ringmaster-entertaining for a minute, then it's just chaos. Papua better get its act together before it becomes another headline in the looting saga!
You always saying bullshit, Wenda just can hide and making trouble in our country, why you and your separatis homeless always make people fighting, just sit and Papua Will got peace 🕊️, not every human must be rich, also in Papua have rich people
West Papua is within the land of Papua New Guinea. It is the Melanesian country and the people of west papua don't want to be in the colony of Indonesian Government anymore.
Please give them freedom and Independent❤🙏
They are completely different from their cultures, customs and traditions and also their skin colour or the human races. It is part of us Papua New Guinean surrounded by the islands of Melanesian countries.. Please give them freedom🙏
Tuhan lihatlah penderitaan kami orang Papua diatas tanahnya sendiri.
😮 bisa tolong jelaskan penderitaan kalian? Punya smartphone, bisa akses internet CZcams, bebas berbicara dan berpendapat. Sebelah mana nya kalian menderita?
this should get more views, great video. Free West Papua!❤❤🤍💙🤍💙🤍💙
Thank you!
Awesome video Fredo! Well done!
Thanks Roy! I hope it helps the cause. ✊
@@FredoRockwellhelping terrorist ?
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Terjemahkan
Bodoh amat 🤣🤣
Serang Freeport kalian pasti akan merdeka.
Kalian tidak bisa merdeka karena ulah Amerika
@@user-kg5ky1dg2t Yesus sudah mati. Ngapain berdoa kepada orang mati.
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Excellent video @FredoRockwell. I was part of a Palestinian Solidarity group and I tried the raised the issue about the West Papua occupation by Indonesian Security Forces, as no matter where it's happening, an occupation is an occupation and a genocide is a genocide. However, due to the push-back I got from the Indonesian members, I ended up leaving the group. I've been donating to freewestpapua for some time now, in the hope that it'll aid the libation of the West Papuan people
Thank you! And I admire your dedication to your principles!
It does seem to be a problem sometimes. Activists get very wrapped up in one issue but then can't see similar problems in other places in the globe.
Let's hope West Papua is free soon!
@FredoRockwell Thank you for the kind reply. There is a very informative video by @JamesKerLindsay showing why West Papua may never gain independence, and wonderful videos by @ParadiceBroadcasting and @friendlyjordies showing the uphill battle the West Papuan people face. But, I think any support for a good cause is never a lost cause. Look at how the global support for Palastine increased within the past few months alone. I believe that with enough support, one day, Palistine, West Papua, Xinjiang, Northern Ireland and many other colonised lands will be free to govern by the people of that land
I came across your channel last night. You have many information videos, excellent work. I'll be sure to tune in to more of your work
Free west Papua ✊🏿🔥🇨🇺
Nah won't happen bro! 💪 btw it's Cuban flag not Free west Papuan flag which means that your 'country's has not existed yet😉
"existed yet" thank you for supporting, free west papua!😄@@andravideostation6101
Over my dead body west Papua going independence
hopefully you live longer, longer enough to see West Papua gain its Independence
Morning star west papua spirits we are, west papua dea only one morning star flag Hidup bangsa west papua Hidup West papua Hidup perjuangang suci bangsa west papua FREE WEST PAPUA WEST PAPUAMERDEKAH.✊️✊️✊️
Oh, we've got a real champion for West Papua's independence here! But hold your horses, folks, because there's more to this story. Let's talk about the economic lifeline Indonesia provides to Papua. Without that support, it's like cutting off the Wi-Fi in a Netflix marathon-game over. And let's not forget the political circus that comes with independence. No plan? That's like trying to navigate a maze blindfolded. And guess what? All those strides in social development? Yeah, they could vanish quicker than ice cream on a hot day. Plus, let's talk international relations. Going solo could turn Indonesia into a diplomatic battleground. So, while they're shouting "Free West Papua," maybe they should take a long, hard look at the fine print of that freedom. so yea good luck with that ✊
@@moondaymood.😂 West Papua west Papua 😂. Even they were not single and united tribe. Even they take war each other and Indonesia Police always make peace both side tribe 😂. If west Papua got independent 😂. Tell me What national language did you choose? Dani? Asmat? Or what else 😂. Don't say you use English for your national language 😂
I love this
As an Indonesian, I fully support the independence of West Papua on humanitarian grounds
Very interesting
Please..god bless you free free west papuan god god..please🙏🙏😇😇😭😭😭👊🇨🇺🇨🇺
have an emoji of your flag first, then we can talk
It started when European colonists tried to divide the land..
By "it" do you mean the conflict and strife? If so, I would say it began when colonists lumped together such a huge colony of unrelated peoples and cultures. If it weren't for colonization, there would be no Indonesia today.
More complicated is that as of now, roughly 50% of West Papua citizen are migrants from rest of Indonesia regions. The migration rate is so high, experts said in 20-30 years migrants will form around 70-75% of citizen. When that happened, the area will be more prone to horizontal conflict.
Here's what ordinary Indonesian perception is like:
1. The Dutch promised Indonesian government to give all the land of the former Dutch East Indies to Indonesia in I believe round table conference? (CMIIW). Dutch recognize Indonesian Independence in 1949, creating "United States of Indonesia" which include Republic of Indonesia, States of Indonesia, East Sumatera, Pasundan, etc (which already considered dividing the countries & meddling in other nation domestic affairs) & promised to talk about the rest land (western new guinea) the later year, a year after the transfer of sovereignty. Heck we event agree to pay ƒ4.5 billion settlements to the dutch (but I dont get what for? we're in the minus even before the independence, and they're the one colonizing us?). But up to 1960 there's no talk about the rest of the land and instead the dutch promised the papuans its own independence. No talks, then Indonesia sent armies in Trikora Operation (3 komando rakyat, people's 3 commands; 1. prevent papua become dutch's puppet state, 2. fly the bicolor in the west new guinea, 3. prepare the mobilisation to west new guinea). Then the US with new york agreement and yada yada, the rest is history.
2. About 1022 people who turns up in the ballot vote I think it's because papuans noken system which all the tribe members will agree to whichever/whoever the head of tribe vote. This one giving Indonesian government a headache even to this day, because the local and national election turnup can goes to 100% even when the one that come to vote can be counted by hand; and the election result can have 100% victory. Indonesian government tries to get rid this tradition but to the last election there's still vast area still practicing it. Indonesian government even passed the law to prevent people in the areas that already abandoned noken system to go back using it.
note: Noken is a traditional Papuan bag that has become a symbol of being Papuan and is also recognised as a UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage in 2012 (note on the word “intangible” instead of tangible, since noken is deemed to have various social and spiritual meanings).
3. No, Papuan independence army isn't a single unified group even after 2014. Benny Wenda published demands back in 2022/2023 from vanuatu but objected by several papuan independence groups especially the one in the island. Some even say the one that fled the island isn't true "warrior". Some Indonesian people even hope there's truly united papuan independence group like the Aceh one (GAM / Free Aceh Movement) so it'll be easy to talk peacefully.
The argument that the people of West Papua WANTED to have a tiny proportion of voters cast public votes instead of a referendum is specious. The problem was not that only a few people showed up to the poll. The problem with the vote was that it was not the one person, one vote, secret ballot Indonesia had agreed to hold.
I also think it's very slippery to describe all of colonial Indonesia as a single people. The only unifying factors were that this bar territory was contiguous and all colonizers by Indonesia. I understand the post was consensus later determined colonies should achieve independence as a undivided unit, but in Indonesia's case this just means replacing colonizers from the Netherlands with colonizers from Java.
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@@FredoRockwell
From U.S, Java is just the small kings thst need to balance your interest, Indonesian and U.S foreign policy called Freeport.
You literally called Indonesian govt a hypocrite and colonizer, but you work along with the biggest hypocrite and colonizer, called the "west", then supporting Russia invasion and ok with the Palestine genocide, even turn a blind eye to aboriginal in Aussie, that's a telling on its own.
Literally volunteer yourself to become a pawn for a bigger colonizer, when we tried to investing in infrastructure you shot and kill these people, when we tried to integrate you with the education as a token of thanks your people "spitting in our face",
That path of "freedom" isn't filled with rainbow it's filled with blood.
@putra4101 I have no idea what you're taking about. Do you think I'm personally responsible for US government policy? I didn't even live there! 🤣
@@FredoRockwell I dont think its colonizer, Javanese and Papuan live side by side. if there is a vote of independence I assume the remain vote will be the winner now.
Finally getting the time to actually comment
The morning star flag looks really nice, which is especially noticeable when you realize how unoriginal the flag of Indonesia actually is. Anyway, I'm curious, is there a movement for unification with Papua New Guinea?
I agree - it's a particularly cool flag and would look great side by side with the rest of the world's flags at big international events. Regarding unification with PNG, as far as I'm aware - no. West Papua is one of the most linguistically and culturally diverse places on the planet (as is PNG) so the case for unification isn't as obvious as it might seem at first. The ULMWP currently has observer status at the Melanesian Spear Group, the regional international organization, and gets substantial support from Vanuatu. I suspect an independent West Papua would be a natural ally of PNG - but I suspect a state merger is unlikely.
flag of indonesia was from majapahit empire, its far longer than any european flag existed. the morning star flag that was created by the dutch is so bland they shouldve hired indonesian designer for that
@xogeneral1512 I like Indonesia as a country, but it's flag is so bland that there was already one country with the same flag when it declared independence, and a second that uses the same design upside down. However old it is, it's hardly remarkable for its distinctiveness!
@@FredoRockwell seems like you cant read too. i said indo flag uses an old empire flag that existed before any other flag, but its a futile to debate with an idi10t
Is there something wrong with the Indonesian flag?
Its essentially a colony because of the Dutch like Aceh and like (mainly because of Portugal) East Timor before its re gained independence.
I agree! I don't think you can really call Indonesia an empire, but it certainly inheritied territories that are essentially colonies of the regime on Java.
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@@FredoRockwell is not a regime lol, java is just the most populated island that's why it had more political authority.
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#freewestpapua
Free West Papua from world map
Surely, most of modern nations are based on previous colonization territories.. Furthermore, most nation agree on the act of free choice in Indonesians favour. So technically indonesia has its right on Papua. In addition, its very difficult to change modern teritory that has been agreed on UN.
Thanks for your comment. I address this point in the video. There's a case to be made in international law today that all of the Dutch East Indies should pursue national determination as a unit, but this would rely on precedents that were not yet set at the time. Also, Indonesia would still retain the right to let any of it's territory achieve self-determination if it chose (a right all counties have). Indonesia freely exercised this right with the New York Agreement, which it signed at the UN. It's not legitimate to freely enter into an agreement and then unilaterally change the terms afterwards. Regarding border changes, they are difficult, but not uncommon. The UN itself contains over 30 members with borders that have changed significantly since 1991.
Great video! As a Australian I’d love to see west Papua unify with Papua New Guinea
Thank you - I'm really glad your liked it!
As for unifying with PNG, I've not heard anyone connected to the West Papua movement call for this, or even mention it. It's my understanding that West Papua and PNG are two of the most culturally and linguistically diverse places on earth. I'm not sure unification would solve any problems but I can imagine how it works create some!
But again, I've never heard anyone discuss the issue so I don't know.
@@FredoRockwell yeah you’re right there isn’t a lot of talk on it… The unification of Western New Guinea with Papua New Guinea was official Australian government policy for a short period of time in the 1960s, before Indonesia's annexation of the region. Generally, proposals regarding federation with Papua New Guinea are a minority view in the freedom movement though, Either way I support the self determination of new Guinean’s which ever way they choose to go.
@@corey6722 west papua was a dutch colony that's why the name is dutch new guinea after the dutch recognized indonesia independence. Before that dutch new guinea is part of the dutch east indies modern day indonesia. On the other hand papua new guinea is a british then an australia colony.
It couldn't be unified because most example of modern nation today is a successor state of previous nation that exist which most of it are colony. I think you might mistake it for the unification of papua and new guinea that was originally two territory of the british empire, with territory of papua was in british hand before ww1 while the territory of new guinea is annex from the german empire during ww1.
@@aliefalyansyah5996 New Guinea refers to the entire island. Papua by itself is a province in the west side of that island. Papua New Guinea is the country in the east that got independence from Australia. I don’t see how colonialism should stop peoples right to self determination. What I was referring to is known as the Papuan conflict which you can read up on online, it is still happening… the western province of Papua currently occupied by Indonesia. Papuan separatists have conducted protests and ceremonies, raising their flag for independence or calling for federation with Papua New Guinea, and accuse the Indonesian government of indiscriminate violence and of suppressing their freedom of expression. I hope that helps clear things up for you.
@@corey6722 because the people mostly don't want to unite mostly because of colonial status and how dutch new guinea like the rest of the dutch east indies has been colonize but the netherland also. Also most of the west papuan independence activist don't want to unite with papua new guinea if they got independence they want their own state. New guinea is a colonial name and the native name is papua. That's why i'm using papua instead of new guinea also the western part is not a province but a seperate teritory govern by the dutch since before ww1 when the nothern part is govern by german and the southern part is govern by the british through australia.
If they force to unite then probably a new conflict will occur like the Bougainville conflict that happen in papua new guinea province of bougainville. The reason of conflict because that province is rich in gold same thing with west papua and it's freeport mined.
Actually West Papua is a part of Indonesia since the Kingdom era before the Dutch colonization came in the archipelago.
Thanks for your comment. Are you saying that "Indonesia" existed before the colonial era, or do you mean that there were previous empires which, at least one point, stretched to the island of New Guinea?
@@FredoRockwell I think he is referring to Nusantara (I'm also kinda confused by his comment). But his point makes some sense, because since the kingdom eras the kingdoms in Maluku islands have good relations from people at Papua, if I am wrong correct me because I haven't read history for a long time.
only small part of west papua,not a whole island
@@andravideostation6101 yes its true, the sultan of Tidore actually rule part of west papua. Thats also how the dutch rule papua 1st, is not really dutch army but more of the sultan of tidore which pay tribute and doing trade contract with the VOC
Its like Northeast India
PAPUA MERDEKA FREE WEST PAPUA
Serang tambang Freeport hancurkan itu semua.
Itu kunci agar Papua bisa merdeka
@@AndiArim tambang kok diserang pangkalan militer tuh diserang, serangan lu gk pernah sampai kota cuma sampai hutan 😭
Kita jgn bodoh ingat Papua jajahan Belanda Indonesia wajib menerima seluruh jajahan Belanda. Bukan papua doang Aceh Maluku semua ingat kita bukan Israel yg genosida Palestina kita. Berjuang hak dan wajib mempertahankan. NKRI
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Bravo papua
As Indonesia i believe Aceh and Papua not Part of us
Speak for yourself
As an Indonesian, i believe Aceh and Papua is part of Indonesia
Heck, if Aceh were to be independent it probably would last shortly 😂😂
@@MGharriy No, many Indonesians already realize that Aceh and Papua are colonies and that they will become independent in the future 😌
@@indorailfans2532 Aceh and Papua was never colonized by Indonesia.
Have you ever looked the guy on your 10k rupiah?? He is a papuan who believes Papua should be rightfully part of Indonesia! If you think Netherland humanized Papua for good reason, remember the british colonies of africa? The africans were humanized by them when they arrived and guess what happens next? They were enslaved! Just because they were humanized by the colonizers doesnt mean its for something good.
@@indorailfans2532Jadikan Anies presiden Aceh biar Rohingya bisa berkuasa di tanah Aceh😊🙏
Nkri harga mati🇮🇩
Ingat. Warga Papua. Kita Bangsa Indonesia bukan Bangsa Israel. Kita berjuang. Emang Papua. Miliki NKRI. Papua jajahan Belanda. Indonesia. Wajib. Menerima semua jajahan Belanda
Apa hubungannya sama Israel yaelah boomer
@@Yanespe ya ada lah. Israel. Gempur negara Palestina. Itu genosida. Sangatlah melanggar HAM. KLO Papua emang wilayah NKRI. Ya Klo. Di bersihkan dari. Teroris wajib hukumnya
Not correct. Thank You Fredo, you've done better than most; but there was more manipulation than the public has been told. The 'New York Agreement' was first proposed in May 1959, and Indonesia agreed in March 1961 that it wanted such an agreement, although they did not want the public to know it is a trusteeship agreement.
West Papua is a victim of OUR governments, on 21st September 1962 our governments voted to give the new UN Secretary General U Thant permission to invade West Papua and appoint Indonesia as the current administrator. Our governments were using article 85 part 1 of the UN Charter to authorise this; article 85 part 2 requires that the Secretary General tell the UN Trusteeship Council about the trusteeship agreement ('New York Agreement') so that the Council can then begin its article 87 & 88 duties making yearly UN reports to protect & promote independence of the colony (West Papua). In violation of the UN Charter, U Thant never told the Trusteeship Council; and nor have any of the subsequent Secretary Generals. António Guterres is in violation of international law that requires he reveals the UN annexation of West Papua to the UN Trusteeship Council; irrespective of whoever the UN has appointed as "administrator".
Indonesia, is Terrorise jiat KKB kriminal country in the world Indonesia merapok menduduki west papua secara illegal saat hari ini.Indonesia, is raisi discrimination Terrorise kkb kriminal Government in West Papua. Hidup perjuangang suci bangsa west papua Hidup Aktifivis west papua merdeka Hidup West papua FREE WEST PAPUA WEST PAPUA MERDEKAH.✊️✊️✊️
Why are some Western countrymen supporting West Papua and says that Indigenous of West Papuans need to be free, while you guys killed a mass total of indigenous people like Native Americans, Aboriginal Australian, etc
The US government did horrible things to the native populations in America for centuries. Things are far from perfect today, but there is an open and honest discussion about past wrongs and methods of redressing them.
Because of these past crimes by America, do you think Indonesia should have licence to commit crimes today? That is some twisted logic.
@@FredoRockwell oh, killing rebels that has disturbed and killed many innocent people is a crime now? Wow.
@@andravideostation6101 I think you're replying to a different conversation. I didn't mention killing rebels.
But torturing anyone, or engaging in extra judicial killing, is generally considered a crime under international law.
@@FredoRockwell When you say "Do you think Indonesia should have license to commit crimes today" most likely your referring about the Indonesian killing the Papuans Rebels?
@@FredoRockwell Update news : The Separatists just forcefully captured a *native* West Papuan and interrogated him, because the separatist consider him as a "Intelligent Agent of Indonesia Miitary".
Rakyat Papua harus merdeka dari kolonialis RI..
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Papua is still a functioning part of Indonesia. Just this year Papuan participated in Indonesian general election. Those rebel group is a small precentage who lives in the highland, in the other area, life is normal... This video is valid, yes. But this is one sided. This is just one of MANY separatist movement that happened in early post independence era of Indonesia. The seperatist group burn clinics and school because it was built by the government, making life of locals miserable. Omg there are so much more
I hope to make videos about other separatist movements in Indonesia soon. 🙂
@@FredoRockwell Your comment proves that you support forced recruitments of Papuan rebels to young Papuans, and also Papuan rebels who make things worse in Papua. Just like some other Westerners you guys always intervene in conflicts out of your country. You supporting Papuan Rebels is like saying that you support a rebel in your country. I'm maybe just a random guy from North Sulawesi that have no relatives and never lives in Papua, but i know more about my country than you.
Just to clarify, I've never said anything to support conscription in any military force.
@@FredoRockwell This comment, comments about unspeakable things that the Papuan Rebels does to the local people (natives nor non native) in Papua. Then you replied something that is out of context which was "I hope to make videos about other separatist movement in Indonesia". You could be provoking him with your comment that you are going to make other separatist movements in Indonesia. Oh yeah I've seen in other comments that you are kind of supporting the movement soooo?? Sorry if you have difficulties reading my text because English is my second language.
@@andravideostation6101 I think Indonesia's takeover of West Papua was illegal and I'd like to see a resolution. I'm not committed to a particular outcome as long as it's as peaceful as possible and in the end the human rights of everyone is respected.
Profiling independence movements is one of the main topics on my channel. Indonesia had several. I hope to cover others on future. This isn't an attack on Indonesia specifically, no more than profiling the Texas or Hawaii independence movements is attack on the country of my birth.
I understood you perfectly (I think). 🙂
well tries to divide other nation, typical
No one is trying to divide West Papua. There is a movement for it to regain its autonomy and independence. It's all explained in the video. 🙂
@@FredoRockwell but its already have autonomy in the 1st place, the governor always have to be from Papua. 2ndly the British, Dutch, and German already devide Papua to east and west.
@@Elvinana Mandating that a governor is from a place doesn't mean the local government he or she leads is autonomous. That's a matter of law and how the law is implemented. Also, there has never been (as far as I know) any campaign for a united Papua state. The island is divided geographically, but that's not a sign of oppression.
@@FredoRockwell well they also could create their own Law and implement their own way just like the province of Aceh. From also what I gather most west papua perfer not to join the new guine in the east also cause the life in new guine is actually much far worst. The capital it self is run by gang member.