Hydraulic or Electric front end loader - which one is better?
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- How should I build my residential loader (front end loader), should I build it with electric or hydraulic actuators? This is about a loader that was electric and then converted to hydraulic. It may help you decide which way to go.
Excellent real world comparison! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Actuators can be very fast and of comparable speed to hydraulics. Where excavator manufacturers have removed hydraulic systems entirely from a battery version of a diesel model, it has given operational benefits. Its probably about choosing the best actuator for the job. Those electro-hydraulic units you installed are also compact and very good.
Yes the actuators have their place. Unfortunately the really high end electric actuators are on the expensive side and not feasible for a weekend fabrication project that is for the home owner. If it is a commercially viable build then money is less of a barrier. Overall, dollar for dollar, hydraulics is the best choice.
Great video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge & for your hard work. You have saved us all time & money by doing these demonstrations. You're the only person that I've sec in CZcams that has had the expertise to power their homebuilt loader with hydraulics. I've seen actuators, winches, & now hydraulics. I am just in the concept phase of making a loader. Any thoughts on using jack screws? They're pretty tough & can be fast. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I hope more people find them & learn from you!
I appreciate your generous comments. As for jack screws, they are heavy duty, for sure. If you already have screws powered by DC electric motors or Gas engine - if they have a decent stroke length for your loader design and if you can reasonalbly keep the screw part out of the dirt, then I'd say go for it. But if you have to go out and buy them, then I'd say go with hydraulics.
Thanks again, Ed
Another great video Ed, thank you
Just trying to be helpful. Thanks, Ed
Slow isn't quite the word I would use. More like a cashier at Walmart 😂
Ha Ha... you hit the nail on the head!
Hey Mr Ed , the hydraulics is the way to go . Nice video !!
Yes, if the budget will allow it, hydraulics if definitely the way to go.
yes sir great video love how compared um
Glad you enjoyed
Great Ed . Can you tell me what size tubing you used for the arms and what hydraulic cylinders. You used ?
Thank you
This helped a lot😊
I used 2" square (A36 structural steel) with a 1/8" wall thickness.
The 2 hydraulic cylinders were both the same - 2" bore x 16" stroke with a 1" rod. I bought them on sale through "Surplus Center". This is an awesome site to get hydraulic components. Check it out at www.surpluscenter.com. If you place an order they will send you a printed catalog. You may be able to call them at 1-800-474-5198 and ask for a catalog (not sure). I hope this helps, Ed
@@eds2centsworth203 Thank you very much Ed . 😀
@@eds2centsworth203 wow, their prices are great Ed thanks😀
i got a nice cub cudet 2542 or 2452 gt heavy duty overall in real good shape except 20 or 22 koh;er seems to be locked up it was gave to me had new batt and starter captian sear arm rest no rips great deck look like it was cleaned after every grass cut just locked it up and i guess had money so bought new mower good news for me lol
Good tractor. Sounds like it is worth fixing.
Thanks sir, for teaching us.
So nice of you
nice im thinking of taking my honda 300 4x4 4wheeler and doing something similar
at last, some video footage of this home made loader in action.
Thanks for sharing your great video, I'm trying to get ideas for a small bucket for a Bolens 1250 I just restored.
I love checking out the innovation of others, I hope you make a video of your Bolens loader.
I will. Just rebuilding the Hydraulic cylinder and installing new hoses.
What was the cost of this setup excluding the mower itself
About $800 for the hydraulics. About $400 for heavy duty battery, welding supplies and metal to fabricate loader.
Thanks it’s a better option than battery but you haven’t said anything on how to connect the system what size hydraulic pump cost wise and a schematics diagram please let me know how to put it together thanks
Assuming your tractor does not have hydraulics already, this is what I recommend as far as a Hydraulic pump - www.amazon.com/Vevor-3200-PSI-Hydraulic-Quart/dp/B07ZCLS6RN/ref=pd_cart_vw_crc_sccl_2_2/139-2299784-2253507?pd_rd_w=OUWdW&content-id=amzn1.sym.75873c58-c777-4e96-9e4c-71edd776d2ed&pf_rd_p=75873c58-c777-4e96-9e4c-71edd776d2ed&pf_rd_r=0A0VZ2EKX30979E2CX5X&pd_rd_wg=q2r29&pd_rd_r=2ba06dac-39c8-454f-a4ef-dcd04479783f&pd_rd_i=B07ZCLS6RN&psc=1 . This is a double acting pump, you will need to purchase "double acting" cylinders.
The above mentioned pump operates off of 12 VDC. It uses electric operated spool valves already incorporated into the pump. The pump will use a lot of electricity so a heavy duty battery is needed. Here is a link to a battery that I have had good success with on several projects. It is called the Everstart Value 65 - www.walmart.com/search?q=everstart%20value%2065%20battery .
I posted a video a few years back that provides some specifics in building this hydraulic system. See my video - czcams.com/video/4mflY5zBKrI/video.html .
I cannot provide step by step instructions but I believe this video will be very helpful. Ed
Hi Ed, I am wanting to attempt this with my massy furguson mower which has plenty of power at 23hp but I am very worried about its comparatively weaker Transmission which is hydrostatic. Have you attempted to do this with any Hydrostatic tractors. I was looking at picking up a 90s Craftsman with only 12hp engine and a 5speed peerless Transmission, would this be a better bet? and would it be worth the $400 to switch to that?
I can't comment on the Massey Ferguson, but I have found that on the riding mower conversion to front end loader that the hydrostatic transmission with the 23 inch rear wheel (12 inch rim) works well overall. The manual transmissions have a little trouble when pushing into a pile of dirt (forward gear) and then shifting into reverse to back away from the dirt pile. The hydrostatic trans is pretty much seamless. The tractor in this video was a 7 speed manual. The transmission would load or bind going from forward to reverse if I tried to change gear before lifting the loader bucket. If I lifted the bucket first and then changed gear it worked better. I built a loader on a Craftsman GT6000 with Hydro transmission and 23 inch wheels and it worked well. I can't comment on the 5 speed Peerless but they seem to have a good reputation for garden tractor. Hope this helps.
@@eds2centsworth203 it does, thank you.
I built one myself and I don't use any slow linear actuator or hydraulic gadget 9 days ago. here is Part 1 czcams.com/video/P5OY4QRIbQU/video.html
I have a question. Does you tractor battery and alternator supply enough power to the winch for continuous use? I was thinking you probably beefed up the battery and alternator. Ed