Train Simulator 2016 - Route Learning: Cardiff Central to London Paddington (HST)
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- In this next route learning video we take a journey along the new Western Mainlines add on from Just Trains between Cardiff Central. At over 145 miles this is the longest journey I've yet undertaken for a video on this channel. Our traction for the journey is a First Great Western HST, and along the way we will be calling at Newport, Bristol Parkway, Swindon, Didcot Parkway, Reading, and London Paddington.
Apologies for the quite serious lag at certain points on this video, it's unfortunately completely unavoidable. Also apologies for saying "Hullavington" where I should have said "Wootton Bassett"; and finally apologies for my slightly croaky sounding voice! My voice was a bit strained when recording but I'm not exactly sure why.
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Does anyone else ever get that ASMR sort of feeling when you watch these route learning videos?
Otherwise, great video dude!
Thanks. I worked over these routes for 40 years and the stations were still in use when I moved down here in 1963. We also worked the daily goods train between Didcot and Swindon known as the 'Swindon Fly', which usually had a Hall engine on it.
Once the stations closed the route to Swindon became a very empty right of way, as did both routes to Bristol and Cardiff. Made even worse once the MAS signalling came in and all the signal boxes closed and demolished. The stations between Swindon and Bristol Parkway, which was known as Stoke Gifford before the station was built, were Wooton Bassett, Brinkworth, Little Somerford (For the Malmsbury Branch), Hullavington, Badminton Chipping Sudbury, Westerleigh Junction, Coalpit Heath and Winterbourne.
This of course part of the South Wales main line to and from Swansea and Cardiff Central I believe has electrified. The HST as you know for many, many years had delivered thousands and thousands of passengers and have been replaced by newer units, all green with a bit of yellow at the front.
There are several closed stations; Badminton, Hullavington, Wootton Bassett, Uffington, Wantage Road and Challow. Incidentally the Main Line platforms of intermediate stations are used, during late evenings and at ŵeekends when the Reliefs are closed for engineering work. When not in use, the ML platforms are locked out of use behind closed fencing. Pangbourne, Burnham and Taplow are served by connecting buses from intermediate stations as their ML platforms are out of use, whilst Hanwell, West Ealing and Acton ML are not served at all during such times (likewise the Greenford branch is suspended.)
The stations between Swindon and Didcot were, Stratton St. Margarate, Shrivenham, Uffington (For Faringdon Branch), Challow, Wantage Road and Steventon. Wantage Road had a light railway too and from Wantage Road station. There was a local service between Didcot and Swindon up until 1964/5.
+swipewrite Thanks for the information. I'd love to see a version of this route modelled in an earlier era.
Have ridden in H.S.T cabs back in 1986 when it was ' double manned ' either Oak common , Cardiff, Swansea drivers. Wonderful to see some of the places passing 35 years later at 125mph!.
I can never be this informative in an English presentation. Great work!
As a welshman, I have to say that they did justice on recreating Cardiff Central
+LOLWelshGamer As a englishman, i have to say that they did cardiff central station justice.
Giving a train enthusiast extra enthusiasm! Love it keep it coming subscribed 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃
The 1655 Cardiff- Paddington service now happens to also be the last HST operated service from Cardiff- London
Great video - thank you. I believe the 2 part speed board refers to the limit for HSTs and that for 'normal' locomotive hauled trains or other DMUs. Sometimes the upper figure will be HST 125 whilst the lower may be 95.
Another great video, Peter, and obviously a huge effort required. When the 165s and 166s arrived, the 165s were intended for journeys between Paddington and Reading (plus branches) and the 166s for longer trips beyond Reading but, from observation, they have become interchangeable and some trains have one of each. You have mentioned doing more videos on this route, so may I say that the station between Hayes and Hanwell is pronounced South_all as in north and south. I was born in Hanwell. Many thanks, Roger Crick.
+Roger Crick Thanks Roger, I always appreciate your comments. I've never been a fan of the 165s and 166s, preferring the older stock they were built to replace. Thanks for the correction on the pronunciation, I've never been quite sure on how to pronounce Southall.
Great video again, I appreciate all the hard work you put into it. Many thanks.
+Cheesy Cock Thanks, I really appreciate your comment! :)
+PTGRail what would have happened at 2 hours 1 minute that Heathrow Connect train was still moving towards yours and your train had only just started diverging to the right.
This route some what similar in length where I'm from Chicago, Illinois (USA). We have an interurban electric rail service from South Bend International Airport, Indiana to Chicago Dearborn/Millennium Station, a distance of 109 miles. This train takes about 2 hours and 15 minutes. I wish Train Simulator had this route available. The South Shore rail line has been around since 1920 or so, and is now controlled by NICTD (Northern Indiana Commuter Transportation District). They currently use single and bi-level powered coaches. I certainly enjoy your train videos.
+Larry Fick Thanks for the information. I will be visiting the USA for the first time in June and staying in Chicago for two weeks. I plan on checking out some of the trains and railways around there! :)
With ur expertise, u could get job, driving them. Your expertise is second to none. U could also train drivers with ur wealth of knowledge. Well done...
I wish that I could be a train driver in real life, but it's a very hard job to get in to!
PTGRail It is hard to get in to but I got a job driving the HST on the east coast main line
The river outside Newport is tidal, so chances are they decided to show it at low tide.
Thanks for another good video.
I thought you may like to know that the reason the HST accelerates so slowly from 100mph is due to the lack of field diversions. It's been a long time since I did my driver training but I will try to explain.
Field diversions are used to clear Back EMF. Back EMF is the electrical current that the traction motors create while they are turning. Because this current has nowhere to go it tries to force it's self back up the supply line towards the generator. This restricts the flow of electricity to the traction motors and therefore acceleration.
Older locomotives for example a Class 47 use a system of field diversions . These simply cut the power along to the supply line and divert the current from the traction motors to banks of resisters which then dissipate the electricity as heat. A class 47 field diverts three times when accelerating to 95mph.
I hope this makes sense.
J.
+jock678 Thanks for the information there. I had noticed the lack of field diverts which you notice in other locos such as the Class 37, 47 and 55. The acceleration is certainly very sluggish in the HST!
+PTGRail My pleasure glad to be of help. IRL An HST departing Paddington will normally reach 100mph by Acton Mainline then but doesn't hit top speed until somewhere near West Drayton.
I forgot to mention that the speed limit is 25mph from the last signal then 15mph from the top of the platform to the stop blocks.
Sorry if you think that I am being pedantic, but amps are the SI unit of current not power for which the SI unit is the Watt. The engineer inside me cringes when these terms are misused. So the ammeter measures the amount of current flowing through the electrical system at any instant.
+Robert Langford No, not at all. I'm always open to correction so I can try and get things more accurate in the future. Thanks for the information :)
Looks great. I used to work on this route back in the late 1970s. It was interesting when you had to stop at the red signal outside of the old Ranelagh Bridge fuelling point. Took many a loco in there for fuel.
+Depot Cat Thanks. Where is that refuelling point on the route? Near Bristol or Paddington? :)
Definitely up there with my favourite liverys for the HST, I will miss the HST when the Class 800 comes in.
I really enjoyed the video! Please, do more, they're great. :)
Can't believe I watched 2 hours of this. I'm not bothered, it was great. Well done PTG. Will we see an Atlantic high speed video soon.
+Deadly Dorito Haha, well I'm glad you took the time to watch this right through! I don't currently have the TGV route, but when I do eventually get it then yes I will be making videos on it :)
Also , as someone welsh , I went down to Cardiff to do some train spotting and the station is very similar , well done , good vid
I believe the closed station after Wantage goods loops is Wantage road, though there are 6 closed stations between Swindon and Didcot, 2 of which are on the London side of the goods loops.
+Ben Reid Thanks for the information :)
Awesome video, really well made and a lot of effort has been put into it! Also, the FGW/GWR 158s don't go as far as Brighton(that would be pretty far!) but they terminate at Portsmouth Harbour and the speed limit at PAD is 10mph ;)
+LilNetworker Productions Thank you, I really appreciate it! I've ridden on an FGW Class 158 out of Brighton myself, so I know that they do in fact run there. It's certainly a long journey! :)
PTGRail As far as I'm aware, the ones that originate in Brighton only go as far as Southampton but I could be wrong lol
+LilNetworker Productions You are wrong, GWR operate a 0900 Brighton-Great Malvern and 1700 Brighton-Bristol on Mondays to Saturdays, and some (3?) Brighton-Cardiff services on Sundays, all of which are booked 3/4 car Cl158, although 150s occasionally turn up.
limeyfox Explains it, I was checking Saturday diagrams on RealTimeTrains lol
Nice to watch one of these again finally, I was extremely disappointed at JT for not taking the opportunity to revamp some of the older 2009 stock. Even more so when I found dome of the detail flaws in it. Good vid though.
'River bed is dried up' your reference to river in Newport. It is River Usk and is a tidal river and the tide always seems to be down hence seeing all the mud constantly. I know this because I live in Newport
+Ryan Short Thanks for the info, I was wondering about that! :)
Fellow Newport resident here! The Usk flows into the Severn estuary, which has the highest tidal range in Europe (and second in the world only to one in Canada I think?), and the Usk is obviously affected by that. In fact, Newport apparently has the highest tidal range of any riverside city in the world!
Entertaining other bit of local knowledge; that bridge around 16:51 is actually two bridges, one for each carriageway, and *one* of them didn't have the clearance for OLE (the video makes this pretty clear, actually!). It was demolished over Christmas 2015 and rebuilt in early 2016, along with a new junction linking with the new housing development on the former Monmouthshire Bank sidings to the right of the line in this video.
Don't care about the lag, just that it was a good vid (as always):-) keep up the good work Peter!
A change since you ran this scenario. The Greenford shuttle no longer goes to Paddington. It terminates at a newly built bay platform at West Ealing. Passengers have to do an across the platform change to get a train that stops at West Ealing to go further to Paddington. I think the only exception might be trains on the Chiltern line being diverted to Paddington if London Marlybone station is closed. I think it has to do with construction of the Crossrail line.
Really enjoyed you video. One point, I have just got this route, but the inside of Severn Tunnel on mine has light brown bricks. How did you get yours to be darker?
Great Video. What other journeys are you going to on the Western Mainline route?
another great video, are you going to do anything with the new TGV route?
Wow cool video! The Great Western Main Line is a very good route.
If they ever release a version of this route after the electrification, could you redo it in a Hitachi Super Express please?!?
`London Peddington 30 mile
Great video. What other journeys are you going to do on this Western Mainline route?
Really want to see a video of a trip from London Waterloo towards Exeter St. Davis or Weymouth, the Main Line toward South west England
What an amazing video! This is great! Well done mate 👍🏼 what fov do you use?!
Great Video, Really Enjoyable To Sit Through! The Severn Tunnel Actually Has A Pair Of Red Lights In Each Direction Before The Uphill Gradient So Freight Train Driver Know Where To Start Accelerating To Make The Incline Without Coming To A Halt. Good To See Pilning Station Represented As Well Just After The Severn Tunnel, I Have Taken Many Pictures Of Freight Trains Powering Up The Incline From The End Of The Platform
The lights are blue not red.
That's Good To Know. Why Are You Writing Like This?
The lights are blue and I'm fairly sure WERE represented here
I prefer the FGW livery as well, looks more modern in my opinion!
+Ayman Ilham That was the aim of the new livery, to take the GWML back to the days when it was much better than it is now.
@The secular humanist that was posted ages ago lol, I've now grown to like the new GWR livery as the First liveries are getting boring now
Great video as always 10 out of 10.
Are the speed warning alerts(speed warning upside-down triangle) all working properly on this route. The reason that I ask is because on the Newcastle to Edinburgh route they don't work properly. I just don't want to buy this route and then find out that they don't work how they should.
I wish Train Sim World's Great Western Express DLC had covered this instead of just Reading to London.
It'll be nice to have your scenarios to play!
Really enjoyed this video.
+Alfa John Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed this video :)
Very nice video, it's certainly a large route :) I was wondering if it was on purpose you didn't mention Tilehurst station as we passed through it, though I did notice you mentioned it once earlier when talking about the speed chance between there and Reading.
+Buskanalen Thanks, this is by far the longest journey I've yet covered in a video! I think I just didn't remember to mention the station as I passed through it.
Just a note: Amps is the amount of current not power. Power is measured in watts.
the dots on the speedometer works on the Class 801. It tells you what speed limit on the current line your on and if one of the green light start flashing that means that the speed limit will be decreasing soon so prepare to slow down also it can tell you if there's a temporary speed limit I think.
That's the ATP.
Firstly your videos are amazing!!! I've just installed Train Simulator and the braking is very difficult, is there a way to set up the braking to steps rather than the percentage thing??? Can't cope with that, I played an underground sim which had steps controlling all the speed, so is there a way of getting that on this? Again videos are amazing man thank you!
Thanks, I really appreciate it! Braking is indeed the biggest challenge when it comes to driving trains, and different trains handle differently. Many trains already have steps on the braking, and you need to ignore the percentage written on the HUD. But that's not the case for all trains. With the HST in this video, it's a 6-step brake if I remember correctly. You simply need to count the steps as you put the brake on. :)
Great video, as always. If possible could you do a trip using a class 158 on from Inverness to Kyle of lochalsh, these videos from the outward journey were highly enjoyable.
+Calum Horne Thank you. I will certainly give that request some consideration :)
I really hope it will be calling at Bristol Temple Meads and Bath Spa too ...
Great video as always, shame about the lag! The models look impressive though I have to say I'm not keen on all those cloned trees.
A few points, the speed limit drop to 120 between Didcot and Reading isn't right and is a legacy from the old GW route. Also the junction you passed before you go into Swindon at Wooton Basset is where the infamous 'Tangmere' incident happened where a steam special stalled over the junction. You'll often find the Cross Country services using the relief lines rather than the main, this is down to pathing at both Reading and Didcot.
The speed limit does drop to 120mph on the Didcot to Reading section in real life. Though only once between Cholsey and Goring stations and only in the Up direction.
I didn't know that, I just thought it was something that was put into the sim.
William Mankelow Usually it is, but this is one of those rare occasions they actually got it right! The speed limit through the Severn Tunnel is wrong on this route though.
+William Mankelow Thanks for the information, Will! I'm glad you enjoyed this video :)
Great video mate. Just love your videos. Is there any Australian scenarios in TS16?
+kutless22974 Thanks, I appreciate it! As far as I'm aware there are currently no Australian routes for Train Simulator.
What sort of lines would you suggest doing to avoid lag, I'm hoping to perhaps buy 2017 but know my PC may not be amazing at handling it, though it is new so not certain of that? Can you give any advice?? Great videos btw
Some routes are definitely less laggy than others. Edinburgh to Glasgow might be a good place to start. It runs like a dream on most PCs :)
Gday PTGRail, another great vid you've recorded mate, cheers. I have some mates of mine who are rail fans and watch your vids and we've invented a drinking game. Every time you say 'allow the train to coast' we all drink to it hehe. Have you done the wash and go ICE3 scenario yet? Takecare
+RingLordSonic Haha, thanks! That's an interesting idea! I'm guessing you'll all end up getting quite drunk with the amount of times I say it? No I haven't covered that scenario yet :)
This is a great video. Will we see the West Coast Mainline South from UKTS?
+MI Rail Thank you! I don't generally like to use routes from UKTS, but if the quality is good then I may consider it.
Great video PTG! That was by far a very long journey. Is there a way I can download your custom-created scenario so I can play it?
+Shawn Bickel Thanks! It was indeed a long journey and took quite a lot to learn! I'm not sure how to make this scenario available online but I am open to ideas :)
Great video there buddy. I have recently started making some TS16 videos as well including the TGV route that is a recent addition to my collection :).
Maybe do the opposite direction route from London Paddington to Cardiff Central
PTG, don't listen to the haters. Keep doing your sweet thang. Your voice sends me to sleep at night, very inspirational. 10/10
+Lauren Wade Top kek
+Lauren Wade Haha Lauren, I'm not sure if that's a compliment or an insult ;)
Always a compliment when it comes to me ;)
would be awesome if you created this video again using the new 800 and see how it compares, also hope your enjoying your Germany trip and the pics on Facebook of the trains you have seen are really nice
Hello PTGRail, are you going to do a Chiltern Railway Route Learning video? Can't wait to see you behind the controls of the DVT with Class 67/68
+Marc et la Passion des Trains I will do if such a route is released in Train Simulator! But I certainly plan on making a video in the Class 68 when it comes out :)
They went back to gwr , but only repainted it , I almost got stuck between carridges , cause the doors don't work .
So much has changed in 4 years.
- HSTs no longer run into Paddington;
- The whole journey can be done with electric traction;
- 387s and 345s now run out of Paddington;
I'm sure there's more.
Yes, HST no longer run and have been replaced by newer units.
The IETs and 387s Are Awful
I don't think the lag just has to do with the length of the route. I had some odd lag while traveling on Cajon Pass, the original TS route in California. Dropped quality output to Medium and it went away except for a serious bout near San Bernardino entering the yard. I'm told my computer might have been doing something there, so I'll find out on a future run. I'm wondering if the game just had way too much to load at one time on that scenario sitting idle in the yard.
Great video!
+TheBVE2010 Thank you! :)
Must have taken ages to put together, great work! May I suggest that if you do a return trip, you do it early - mid 1990s? Would be very nice to see the HST in proper Intercity Swallow livery as well as of course being able to use the Valenta soundpack! As a bonus, NSE and loco hauled AI would also add to it.
+simonmd2000 That's just what I'm planning to do with the Paddington to Bristol video. I'm going to cover it in an Intercity HST. I'm also considering using a reskinned Class 180 for a video on this route too. :)
Superb! Dare you do a full 200 mile run rum Paddington to Exeter I wonder? ....... (evil laugh as gauntlet is thrown down)
beautiful video
+Ugo Pirincello Thank you! :)
@PTGRail is there a way for me to this scenario? And also is there a place to get more scenarios for the route, as there is not many for the HST.
Thanks :)
Unfortunately it's difficult to make this scenario available online at it's a 3rd party route. But it's something I've been considering trying to do for a while. I'm not sure where to get more scenarios for this route at present, unfortunately.
Hi PTGRail, great video. Would you be able to upload the scenario?
+Thomas Dovetail Games does not allow you to upload Scenarios from third party websites (Justtrains,Aerosoft, Virtual Trains, ETC)
Big fan of your custom scenarios, do you share them online anywhere?
+SadPanda926 Thanks. I have shared some on Steam Workshop where it allows me to do so. Unfortunately you can't use any 3rd party content with Workshop scenarios though.
What is the duplex indicator on the extreme left?
Fantastic absolutely fantastic
+Sydney Trains Facts & Trivia Thanks!
+PTGRail I wanted to ask how on some of your routes you get station announcements, does this come with the route or do you have to download something, many thanks.
+Joe Langley You can only hear background announcements on certain routes where the route builder has included them. I hope we get more realistic announcements in future versions of train simulator.
+PTGRail I completely agree, nice videos by the way.
Hi,
Just with regard to your request for closed stations between Swindon and Didcot Parkway, I think you may find Uffington is the closed station you refer to. As a Swindon resident, with family in Uffington and a daily commuter from Swindon to Reading via train I do have a better than average knowledge of this route...by all means don't take this for granted as the scenery is so indescriminate around this area my calculations may be out, but Uffington Staition was certainly around this area. Steve Jackson.
Thanks for the info. I wasn't certain on the closed station there. The scenery on this route isn't all that accurate to real life I don't think, unfortunately.
The station he referred to is Wantage Road, the station you are referring to was situated a couple of miles before Wantage good loop while Wantage Road is situated just after the goods loop and was the one he was referring to, this also coming from a Swindon resident who’s parents worked in the Wantage area.
Have you installed the UKTS FP for BR carriages? because the sound of the mk3s sounds like steam train. Well done other than less!
I haven't, no. I've only installed the MTU HST sound pack and MK3 coach sound pack from Armstrong Powerhouse.
When will TS have the Unreal engine in it? Will the change make that much of a difference?
+70humdinger I can't say when as I don't know, but I do know they are building a brand new train simulator from the ground up which will be based in the Unreal Engine. It will make a vast difference as the engine will allow for much better optimisation along with much improved visuals :)
Will you do a route learning video when just trains releases its TGV line?
+Ashwin Garg I will do when I can get hold of it.
Would u prefer London Euston to new street or new street to York
I think the USK was at low tide...do you think they model to that level of detail in the game or it was a mistake? The tide is very very high and the level changes massively.
Great vid, I have traveled that route many times! I'm new to TS2017 and I have the same Just Trains addon but i notice your train 'beeps' regularly at signals and mine doesn't.... what model of HST are you using?
are you on simple controls
yes it was... thanks for pointing that out!
Did you have the Armstrong Powerhouse MK3 coaches sound pack installed?
+TheGamingGuy I believe so :)
I think it was Stratton Park Halt.
Great video!! Thnx again
+Roy Boxem Thank you! :)
They still use that livery... I live Next to the track in Newport and I've only seen the GWR livery once so fat!
*Far*
Great video
You were right Automatic Train Protection (ATP) :)
Good Job 👍
How do you zoom out inside the drivers cab, instead of the screen being right next to the window?
+Great Western Trains I made a video to answer this very question :)
czcams.com/video/PwWd1gVhT9U/video.html
great vid as always no need to say sorry for lag mate have to say we have it in train sim. one question do you know if this route is going to go to stream store?, as I like to buy direct from dtg for ease of download etc also a re braking for the train, I think although the engines where up dated the braking system model is from the 1970s and has not been changed so may be true to life as I think the same system is used in real life as on the sim train, having said that it was advanced for its time as it allowed hst to travel on lines faster than conventional trains but with out to many signal spacing changes, as br brought the train in to service under a shoe string budget
+Duncan Edwards Thanks. I don't knowif this route will come to the Steam store or not, that's a question only JT can answer. :)
I wonder if they will electrify this route in game after 2018 when it gets electrified in real life?
Don't worry about the computer hiccups. They add an extra challenge to the game of "Spot the Glitch". ;) LOL!
Can you do the same video but with the green HST which you get with the South Wales costal route
I will consider using the green HST in a different video, we shall see.
Excellent Movie and scenario
+IM A CAPONE FOR LIFE! Thank you :)
+PTGRail What are the specifications of your PC? and what graphics level do you usually use when driving most routes? p.s. love your videos, very entertaining and spectacularly informative I hope you carry these videos on :)
+Darren Knock I'm currently using an Intel Core i7 4790k processor with 16gb DDR3 RAM and an Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 graphics card. I usually drive with the highest graphics settings and 2x2 antialiasing. Many thanks, I really appreciate it! :)
lovely and epic EPISODE
I'm glad you enjoyed :)
+PTGRail where's the hid do you not use one or?
+PTGRail great vid too 👌
How comes reading looks like the new station
I notice how I can't see any "HST 2+8" stopping signs.Just trains, I am appalled.
PTGrail any change you can do the WCML route between Coventry and Birmingham New Street
+Matthew Loveitt Garcia Unfortunately that route isn't currently available in Train Simulator, but I would like to see the WCML into Birmingham modelled in the future.
how to add more train and track ??
The 'Dried up river in Newport is the River Usk... Could you do a video from Cardiff to Crew along the 'Welsh Marches Line' if possible please 😆
+#NiCk thanks for the info. I didn't realise at the time of making this video that it's a tidal river which could explain why I saw no water in there. I would love to cover the route you requested if it existed within Train Simulator; unfortunately it doesn't at present.
Only 1 HST has the old Valenta engine, the prototype 41001