Christopher Ward Twelve vs Tissot PRX Powermatic 80: Which One Should You Buy?
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- In this video, I dive deep into 8 different aspects to compare the newly released Christopher Ward Twelve with the classic Tissot PRX Powermatic 80. Find out which is the better watch for you.
My Tissot PRX review: • Tissot PRX Ice Blue Re...
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0:00 Introduction
0:40 Comparison Criteria
1:01 Case & Crown
2:34 Design & Looks
4:11 The Movements
6:28 Battle of the Bracelets
7:33 Wearing Experience
8:27 Brand Recognition
9:17 Warranties
9:46 Value for Money
11:17 Which One Should You Buy? - Zábava
Great review, most reviewers show these watches indoors but you brought it up a notch with outdoor views. Not to mention a very comprehensive comparison. Subscribed. But yeah, Christopher Ward all day!
I'm glad you liked it!
I tried to showcase the watches in a variety of environments so you get to see how they actually look in real life
@@TheWatchOut watched 6 other videos of yours, great content. Keep it up!
@@reconteam91 Thanks for your support
great review - would you get the CW in glacier blue or the new green colour ???
Great review, well structured, balanced, nice pictures. I really appreciated it.
Glad you liked it!
Very good comparison video….well done it was enjoyable to watch.
Glad you liked it!
This must be the best "comparison review" between the twelve and prx on youtube. Great effort and kudos to you!
Thanks so much for the high praise. Glad you liked it!
@@TheWatchOut You are well worth the praise! Keep it up!
Best review and comp, especially size and wearability, I've seen for the CW Twelve yet. Subbed!
Thanks so much! Glad you liked it
Great review. I think you just helped me convince myself to save up for the Christopher Ward!
So glad I could help! Hope you can get the CW12 soon!
Great comparison 👍🏼
Thanks!
The video that needed to be made!😊
Glad you liked it!
I love your videos brother, also love that your wrist is relatable to slimmer builds. Def subscribing!
Glad you enjoy them man! Much more to come!
Great job on the video man, subscribed
Glad you liked it!
I'm a sucker for the integrated bracelet watches. I agree with all of your scores but the price of the PRX is the deciding vote for me.
Yup, that's probably the biggest factor for most people
Honestly amazing review and finally a review of the CW 12 with a smaller wrist for us smaller sized people. Your size comparison was great!
So glad you liked it!
thank you very much for your helpful video..
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Good review and I appreciate the objectivity! Too many reviews are just so vague with how they talk about watches , its refreshing to get something more factual.
Glad you liked it!
this is an excellent review! i love the wrist shots that are not so close up. I want to see how the watch looks when it's casually on someone's wrist. Please do more zoomed out shots!
Glad you liked it!
I will do more of those in the future :)
@@TheWatchOut did you like the ice blue color? I’m looking at the darker blue or gray twelves myself. It’s hard to pick without seeing them in real life
@@Pandash1 I love the ice blue colour. I haven't seen the other colours irl, but this one is really nice
I owned a PRX (green) and sold after receiving the CW12 (glacier blue). The is no comparison between these two. The CW12 compares well to the Maurice Lacroix Ikon…another one that was in my collection. The CW has a beautiful case and awesome bracelet - the finishing is Zarutzu level good. Wears so nice - a true GADA watch
You really seem to be in love with your 12!
Wear it in good health!
how does it compare to aikon? Which one has more flash? I'm thinking of getting either a CW12 or aikon 42
The dial of the CW is stunning ❤
It is really beautiful!
congratulations you have prepared a nice video and it has been very useful for me Greetings from Turkey😊
Teşekkürler my friend.
Glad you liked it!
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Superb analysis and I really enjoyed the presentation style. I have a PRX and certainly am happy with it considering the price, the CW is almost double the cost but I wonder if it is worth it when all factors are considered?
Thanks for the kind words!
The 12 is certainly a notch above, but I think the PRX is still one of the best watches under a thousand dollars
Good review! Not too surprising that the watch costing 2X more wins. I tried the Titanium one and fell in love, and it was SO nice it kind of ruined the steel one for me, lol! Best wishes with the channel!
I know right! The CW12 makes me use that more over the PRX now.
Also, thanks for your kind wishes!
What was so much better about the Ti?😊
@@atl3630 lighter, thinner, cooler dial.
@@MrZanzibar123plus has much better power reserve
@@mikelewis2456 yeah, the movement is a significant step up.
The PRX has really grown on me the more I’ve seen it, but this CW 12 has really caught my eye as an alternative to the PRX/Genta 70s integrated style but with a higher finishing - something I’ve always thought the PRX lacked for its massive hype. The big question: is the CW really worth double the price of the PRX 80?
Loved the video. This is the first time I’ve watched your channel. Well done.
good review mate the CR is easy worth the extra $$ although the PRX is excellent value for money
Thanks! For some people, it definitely is worth the money
Got them both
Nice!
Although a lesser movement, the CW is beautiful and IMHO the winner. Well done!
I feel the same!
PRX hands down!
Are you me? LOL. I have a Honda Insight as well and have the ice blue PRX coming Wednesday and the glacier blue coming late June to the US. All three great choices! I’m excited for the watches. (BTW, got all the before the video lol)
Hahaha, yes we're the same person.
This is an Accord though...close enough!
I’ver had 12 hours with my ice blue PRX now. It scratches the “itch”, so we shall see when the CW12 comes next month. Cheers!
@@dooginator2008tx Enjoy your new watch!
Hope that itch doesn't come too soon
I’m waiting to see what the 36mm will be.
Me too!
nice
I think it's better to think of the price diff as @$600 rather than double. If you were comparing a $5000 watch vs a $5600 watch you might well say they cost almost the same. My point is there is certainly $600 greater value in the CW. Very well done video! Thx
Agreed.
Something else that came to my mind later, was that rather than comparing the CW to the PRX, we could compare it to a watch costing 5,6 or 7 thousand dollars. The CW has the finish to rival more expensive watches and provides much better value.
@@TheWatchOut I have a Girard Perregeaux Laureato that I bought used a few years ago for $5800. I believe they are selling for somewhere @ $10k. I also have a gray CW 12 on order. Will I view the Laureato as 10X better? Of course not. Do I view an AP Royal Oak as 4X better than the Laureato or 40X the CW? Nope. Looking forward to other videos you create - good luck!
Both are too cheap for price to matter.
Still a tough choice. A comparison like that as you mentioned, the CW12 edges PRX but not significantly. But with double the pricing, it doesn’t seem justified to pay the difference for minimal advantages. Perhaps a choice could only be made when one have both pieces on wrist as it will boil down to a subjective decision.
True. You gotta try them on both and see if you really want to spend so much more to have the better watch
I've had both in hand, the CW is miles ahead of the PRX in finish and quality, the PRX is the best integrated bracelet under 1k, but the CW is worth the extra money if you want to step up a level or two.
Longterm tissot is a keeper and the CW is a flipper.
@@davids.2317 Agree 👍🏼
The 12 one could compare to luxury watches costing thousands more. The PRX is a good watch under 1k. It's a big difference in the metal.
are there local ADs available where you live so that you can send your CW for service? just wondering in case as there isnt a branch here in Singapore.
I don't have CW AD's around me.
Hopefully I won't need them anytime soon.
I've only seen it the PRX in person and tried on my wrist, it just felt so cheap, almost feels plastic. Does the CW feel more substantial and premium?
Although you discussed and finish of the bracelets, you neglected to touch on the build quality. The push pin links on the PRX just make it a much cheaper bracelet in comparison to the one on the CW. Sizing the CW was a breeze and I feel it's a more secure bracelet. I ultimately picked up the Ti with Nebula Purple dial. Thanks for the review.
I didn't have to change links on either bracelet, so I didn't get the chance to cover that aspect.
But perhaps I should've experienced and mentioned it in the video. Thanks for your feedback 👍🏼
How are you liking it now please? That’s the model and colour I’m lusting after!
One thing that wasn't mentioned in regards to the movement, is Tissot Powermatic Movement cannot be serviced as they used Plastic Parts in it.
When you send the Tissot for Service the Movement is replaced with a refurbished Movement and the one inside removed to be Refurbished.
The Christopher Ward SW movement can be easily serviced anywhere that service Selita Movements
Good points.
But does that matter as long as Tissot can get it serviced and returned to you in a reasonable amount of time?
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I want to! I definitely will some day!
Great video, you are doing an excellent job. New subscriber from Laguna Beach, CA 👍
PS: I’m curious about your accent. I have heard a similar accent before, but I can’t place it. I’m guessing Indian?
I like watches and languages. I have studied 6 languages. Another great hobby. 👍
Thanks man! I appreciate it.
Yeah, that's right. Although I've been told by some people that it doesn't sound like a stereotypical Indian accent
@@TheWatchOut It didn’t at first, that’s why I had a hard time placing it. I like accents. It makes me sad when people try to eliminate them.
Accents are like flavors on food.
Why would you want to eliminate flavor???
Seems to me the CW is just trying too hard, stuffing too many elements on the watch that don't end up meshing. The faceted face. The overly textured dial with the overly deep markers. The inner ring... It just ends up lacking sophistication, even if all those elements are executed well. The face has better proportions and the bracelet is much more cohesive, but as a whole it's an attack on the senses (and I LOVE the purple dial). Perhaps it works for those who want a bit more show? On the whole, I'd take the Citizen Tsuyosa - cleaner and better balanced than the PRX...
I somewhat agree with you. The prx is definitely much cleaner than the CW.
That said, I've owned and reviewed the Citizen Tsuyosa. It's a good watch, but I would pay a little more and take the PRX for sure.
My thoughts as well. The CW looks cheap. The induces too large and the waffle too "big".
Which size to get for 6.5" flat wrist? 40mm, 36mm, or 35mm?
36-39mm would be the perfect size imo
But now with tissot launched the 35mm powermatic version , this makes me lean towards tissot as I have same wrist size as you and find these integrated braclet design watch tend to wear too big if their dual is 40mm
That's right. These 35mm Prx's work great for our wrist size
Summed up very well. CW is better, just not 2x better. So buyers will have a relatively easy choice based on their budget. Thanks. Good categories & explanations
Glad you liked it!
Yes it is. Thats how watches are. A $12k Rolex is marginally better than a Timex here and there but those little differences add up
The PRX 35mm Quartz is the go to. Affordable, looks good, around $300 New. Even with a big wrist I would go with the 35mm version. If you want to spend $700 on a watch, I would buy the Seiko Presage Sharp Edge or even save until you can buy a CW The Twelve. My humble opinion.
I like that take. There’s zero quality difference in the bracelet and case between the quartz PRX and the automatic, so if you really want the PRX, the best value is probably the quartz. The reason the get the auto is if you absolutely want the auto and/or the textured dial.
Yes, I don't necessarily disagree.
I went for the Powermatic 80 because I like automatic movements, and I prefer the colours on the powermatic variants.
But the quartz version is a solid watch for most people 👍
Personally, I don’t like the dial the CW and the crown guards throw the balance off. Overall, if you want a good looking beater, Tissot for the win (better value IMO). I got mine with a discount so even better.
That's awesome. Enjoy your PRX!
If price were no object, I'm betting most would choose the CW. Understandably taste and preferences are subjective, however compared side by side in the metal, it is very easy to spot that the quality of the CW is a step or two above the PRX. Let me say it like this, I've owned the Zenith Defy Classic, a watch that was over 5k, and very similar in appearance to the 12. The 12 that I own is right there with tye Defy in fit and finishing quality. If not neck and neck, it's close. When I looked at a PRX, its a good watch for under 1k, and a fine purchase. I was debating getting one. But at the end of the day, it is what it is. Decided quckly on the 12 when I saw it in person. To me, it was worth the additional $600.00.
I totally agree with you. And this might sound like a bit of an exaggeration, but the CW seemed pretty close to the quality of a 25k Czapek Antartique. So I definitely think they've done a great job with the watch.
Great video! As much love as the PRX gets, I wasn’t a fan of it in person. I tried on the Green dial and it just didn’t pop, maybe I need to see the glacier one?
As for the the 12, it’s a beautiful watch but the $1500 space is becoming crowded. Rather go with a Monta, if I’m behind honest. And also, for just another thousand you can get a black bay. For that reason, it’s a hard to justify the CW12
Thanks for the kind words!
And that is certainly an interesting and valid take 👍
A lot of these brands really oversell and overpromise with either renders or bracketed, multiple exposure photography. It's a problem because the expectations aren't met in reality.
I have the green dial. I personally love how they do the dials as even though it has colors, it's more reserved so it could go with any outfit in any color easy but still looks elegant. And thus... The darker hue dials like the black, blue and green won't be popping as much as the ice blue or the white/rose gold pvd). When I was in the boutique I was having a hard time getting either the white dial pvd or the green one. In the end I chose the green version as eventhough I liked bi-color watches, I'd rather have it in real rose gold rather than pvd even if the price went up due to that, as pvd per usual would get patinated and you can't touch it up otherwise it'll scrape all the coating off.
Monta makes wonderful watches, I have a Skyquest and love it. However, they are more expensive than the CW 12, which I also have. The 12 is $1225 plus tax, while the cheapest Monta, the Triump starts at 1700 plus tax... pretty much the same difference between a PRX and the 12. Lastly, one will be hard pressed to find a Tudor BB for only 1k more than a CW. Most BBs, even pre-owned are over 3k minimum.
@@Ae073001 Monta make pointless watches. Neither original, nor high quality, nor good value.
The CW reminds me of Formex watches. Look them up, beautiful watch but it all boils down to sollars and cents for what the manufacturers are offering
I'd not realised until seeing this vid just how quickly the Twelves bracelet tapers down compared to the PRX, as a larger wrist person that's a shame as the extra chunk.
38hr Power reserve is a deal breaker in my opinion.
That's insane. Is the Speedmaster a "deal breaker" too?
@@MrAhuraMazda I'm pretty sure the speedy has 50hrs but ok. Anyways, not as much of a deal-breaker for me anymore but still would go for the PRX as a 38hr power reserve will be much more inconvenient.
@@howwemakeitepicthings7002so prx over the royal Oak? The royal Oak has only 40 💀
@@s.m.pravin9738 again, stop making these Goofy comparisons, a royal oak is a very different watch to a PRX, it's a work of art and something I may never afford, the PRX is not comparable to the royal oak in any sense.
@@howwemakeitepicthings7002 bruh my comparison isn't as goofy as saying 38 hour power reserve is a deal breaker
I want my watch to look nice when wearing it and my watch having a smoother sweep makes it look nicer, that power reserve is just going to sit in my watch box ticking away on its own, I have never had a need for such a big power reserve so I'd rather have a big improvement on the aesthetic of the watch, so a smoother sweep is far better imo.
That's a really interesting take. And I kinda agree with you
Prx 100% and its not even close
Does anyone own the 12 with the Selita Sw200 or another watch with the same movement? I have misgivings about the 38 hour power reserve but if it charges as well as my Couturier with the Powermatic 80 ETA, I will probably wear it enough to where the power reserve won't be an issue. BTW, I am considering both the stainless steel and titanium CW 12.
Unfortunately I don't own any other watch with this movement. However, CW does offer a 5 year movement guarantee so you should be good there.
prx for the win
I’ve got the PRX and 6.75 inch and it still feels too big for me .
I have a Maen Manhattan and it’s a perfect integrated bracelet watch for me, but I’ve got the twelve on order too, I have plans to keep only one. We’ll see the reality soon😂
Haha, nice!
Let us know which one you like the most!
I feel like I've watched almost every PRX vs. The Twelve video on YT now - this one is easily the best. I know opinions are subjective, but I really struggle to come to terms how the PRX is even comparable when side by side to the CW... other than similar looks, the CW looks SO much more premium looking, the build quality is so much better too. I love that the CW is not something you'll see on everyone's wrist which is how its going with the PRX.
Thanks so much for the kind words. I tried to be as thorough as possible.
And definitely do think that the CW is a better watch. It's built to the standard of watches costing several thousand more
@@TheWatchOut couldn’t agree more on the build quality aspect of the CW - I’m lucky enough to have watches from Tudor and Rolex and the CW really isn’t that far away from the Rolex in terms of feel/quality, which is saying something!
@@danwillis4229 Agreed 💯
Staying with my prx.
Its a plasctic watch🤣🤣🤣
I'd like the cosc movement from the titanium 12 in the stainless version...I'm not a fan on the grade 2 titanium...it's too easy to scratch.
Yeah I wish they used a better movement or atleast gave us a choice in the steel models
@@TheWatchOut they didnthis on a bunch of other models... like a bunch cosc movements but only available in bronze cases.
Surprise surprise, the watch costing twice as much wins 😂😂 I would like to see CW make the same quality watch that Tissot made at sub £700 price point. Maybe compare the twelve to a Tudor Ranger with is twice the price.
Yup, would have been great if CW had priced the watch at under a thousand dollars.
That would have made it a no brainer
Did you order 15.5cm bracelet size?
Yes I did
@@TheWatchOut perfect, my wrist also 6 inch.
Do you think i should wait for 36mm or get this 40mm?
@@Asdfghjkl-w3j I would say, wait for the 36
@@TheWatchOut thanks alot. Hope your channel grows fast. Keep doing the good work.
@@Asdfghjkl-w3j thanks for the support man
Spend more and you'll get more but I'm not so sure that it's worth it. The PRX is still the better value proposition
Yeah, I agree
@@TheWatchOut having had both in hand I would say the CW is better value.
The tissot feels like a £600 watch, the CW feels like a 3k watch, but costs less than half of that..just because the PRX is cheaper it doesn't make it better value.
@@davids.2317 That's one way of looking at it. And I agree. But I still believe that the PRX is the better choice for someone on a tighter budget
In my opinion, Tissot wins the wearability because it also comes in 35 mm, with the quartz movement is slimmer and has more color variants. So it's a tie
Christopher Ward have brought out a 36mm version of The Twelve now.
On price alone, Tissot wins all day for what is offering. CW has had a lot of time to put a watch at that price, while you are corrrect that it offers more at a totally different price, it is a good offering from CW.
Agreed!
Imo* Both r too big for your wrist and for mine from your video, which is why im selling my prx. The CW looks nice, but imo the logo kills the dial. No one, including myself, didn't know this to be the cw logo, and we all know the most important thing about a watch is the name... just how it is so we can all show off, lol. I like the prx and may try the 35mm, but that just sounds scary small, lol. It's a def pass on the cw. It's just off imo*. Cheers!
A lot of this just comes down to personal take, so your opinion is valid 👍
The 35mm PRX also wears bigger so it might look more like a 37! Good luck!
The Powermatic 80 movement is not serviceable and it also lacks the ability tweak / adjust the movement if it runs too much out of spec. With the Sellita SW200-1, you can do both.
It's serviceable. And it's very easy to tweak compared to common 2824 or sellita sw200. And more shock resistant too as it uses free sprung hairspring.
@@watchnerds czcams.com/video/GAzywe09fE4/video.html
@@watchnerds its not easy to tweak, it takes specialist equipment to regulate a powermatic movement because it uses a free sprung balance. The sellita movement can be tweaked with a screwdriver.
@@davids.2317 I'm a WOSTEP, OWME and Omega Certified watchmaker. I can tell you that it is very simple to tweak the rate than the common regulator pins. Gyromax by Patek and AP indeed would need a tool to tweak the rate, for PM80 it only need screwdriver to do so, just rotate the eccentric screw in the balance arm with the round part away or towards the center to slow or fasten the rate, and it didn't risk of changing the beat error too, unlike the standards of regulating pins which usually sandwhiced with stud holder, when a watch too tight during adjustment it could change the beat error, when it's too loose a slight shock could affect the accuracy as the regulator also moved.
powermatic80 in the twelve would have made it perfect
the powermatic is made of plastic and is unrepairable
@@fritzneumann1714 there are plastic parts yes, but many have now a days. I'd love a ward 12 with more reserve energy on it is all.
CW 12 is just so much better tbh
True
Ya because you are paying almost the double
No question. I personally don’t think it should be compared to the PRX at all. The only thing that brings these two watches together is price IMO.
In India the 12 is exactly twice as expensive as the prx one.
@@vipinsuriya007 Wow that's really bad
Twelve is way better but at double the price.
That's why I'll opt for tissot
Fair enough
Why would you want crown guards on this kind of watch? Defeats the minimalist approach.
Just makes me feel more secure about not damaging the crown
No comparison as 12 is almost doubled the price.
It's not a sport watch it's a classic watch
The PRX is way better than the Christofer in movement as well as looks
Oris from THE gray market is a meter deal than CW
CW is a better watch, think that’s kinda clear.
In the real world, the cost of the CW is getting close to 3 times as expensive. The CW is gonna set you back $1400. The prx you can find for under $500 with a few
minutes of digging. The CW is “better” but it’s not three times as good.
I think the 36mm PRX would suit you better. Both of these look too big for your wrist.
CW 12 looks much better 👌,
Agreed
PRX wins on the price, it will be better to compare it with ML aikon
The movement is the heart of a watch. At twice the price it should have a much better movement than the PRX. So, the Twelve is the clear loser here. IMO.
Cw is a nice watch ,but never twice as nice as the Prx. Especially when you factor in the terrible brand name and almost no history against a powerhouse of horology , tissot.
The PRX just looks better. Better proportions. The dial on the CW looks too big, but it seems to be due to the shorter overall case, or the case looks shorter. The big indices look awful as well. The dial pattern is just too much. It looks like it's trying to outdo the PRX but is failing by trying too hard. Definitely not worth the extra money. I know you said its thinner, but it looks really thick. It almost looks as thick as the PRX Chronograph. Objectively, even when you have them both on, the PRX is just sitting better imo, though I know you thought it went the other way. Weird, I'm thinking the PRX is looking and sitting better, while you were spruiking the CW. Oh well, different tastes :)
Haha, yes. We seem to be have the exact opposite preferences in this case. But it's all subjective, so you're not wrong 👍
I agree. The deciding thing for me was the dial. The waffle is a little too pronounced on the CW as well as the induces are also too big. The CW looks cheap from watching the videos. Whereas the PRX looked better on my wrist than in videos. I didn't realize that there were additional fees to bring it into the US. So, yes at $1400, on a video the CW should smoke the PRX, but doesn't seem to do that.
One thing that wasn't mentioned in regards to the movement, is Tissot Powermatic Movement cannot be serviced as they used Plastic Parts in it.
When you send the Tissot for Service the Movement is replaced with a refurbished Movement and the one inside removed to be Refurbished.
The Christopher Ward SW movement can be easily serviced anywhere that service Selita Movements
I know that factoid is big on the net, but I have heard the opposite as well. e.g its serviceable because its based on a common ETA movement. Anyway, outside of very expensive watch like a Rolex, I suspect most watch repairers would just replace the selita movement as well.
The PRX feels so cheap, like a plastic toy version of a real watch
The 12 being a 41mm is way too much dial and looks humongous on your wrist.
I actually like the bigger dial, and personally, I don't think it looks too big on me.
But I agree that it would have been better on me if it were a few millimetres smaller
The downside of this watch is the 38hrs power reserve
Yup, that's the worst part of the watch for me
the twelve has girly, feminine proportions... and a hideous logo on the clasp, which they don't show you
Looks are personal choices, so I respect your take but don't agree with it.
What's your favourite sub two thousand dollar watch?
@@TheWatchOut There's virtually nothing non-trash from any of the bigger brands at that price point. It's a problem. I think I'd go with a microbrand at that price point. Maybe a Creux or Dwiss M3 or something.
I think Tissot wins on the case. The crown guards on the CW ruin the look
I personally like the crown guards, but I see where you're coming from 👍
CW isn't worth $1200 just as a Rolex OP isn't worth $5500.
We cant buy from their site directly at $1200
The PRX movement is not better than the Twelve. The movement is made of plastic in the PRX and is unrepairable. You can regulate the movement of the twelve for more accuracy but its not possible on PRX movement. Of course the Twelve is 2 times more worth than the PRX!!!!
I think you are a little biased. In my eyes, the PRX is the best watch you can get for under 800 $.
Agreed that the Tissot is the best watch you can get under $800 but the CW is the best watch you can get under $1500
I think the CW 12 looks feminin 🤷🏻♂️
No way you have a 6” wrist.
The 12 is so ugly to me😂 The indices don’t match and the pattern is headache inducing
what "research" 🤣
both overpriced toy watch
If you think of it that way, most mechanical watches are overpriced and unnecessary