Hajime isayama Regrets His Ending.
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Unfortunately, Isayama had issues writing his ending, and as a result he has some regrets.
Attack on titan is the best story in anime, and the ending will never ruin that! Hopefully Hajime Isayama will have his head cleared up about the ending soon.
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#hajimeisayama #attackontitan #aot139
#manga #anime #saioren
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Just see abu manga review eren defense
fuckin idiot you should have warned us about spoilers now you spoiled everything for me
ill never forgive you for all eternity I'm gonna report your channel
@@a.t5654 Your the idiot you should have not watch it lol
Writing an ending for a story is as hard as writing the start to a story.
As a writer, it is really hard to write the ending if you started a really complex plot for your story
Idk does anyone else get the feeling that the last few chapters weren't his. It just seems so odd. He clearly laid out the plot and put in foreshadowing that he never followed it up. He never did that before but all of a sudden near the end he rushes it and it has random unexplained things. It just doesn't feel right and anyone with a brain can realise it. It feels like this wasn't his ending but Kodansha/Japan made him ruin it.
@@filthythough9107 bro he said that his editor was forcing him to rush the ending
@@Absolutenirvana5699 who said that?
@@goratuti1098 every youtuber i've come acrossed said it with proof. they said that isayama's editior forced him to rush the ending and even change it
Endings are literally the most difficult to write especially if you're aiming for a good ending
Ok
Code geass did it right, not that hard
@@obsidie1122 bro you write a dam story then 😂
@@kettle1422 not my job
@@obsidie1122 exactly since it’s not your job you don’t know the difficulties within that occupation so you shouldn’t be saying nothing man 😅
Isayama: I can't think of a good ending
Eren: Fine I'll finish it myself
Isayama: Eren is that really you?
Isayama after the ending is done: "YAMEROOOOO"
@GOJO In our world? No. But in others...
Isayama after the anime-only ending:
Isayama: I've done it Eren! I had everyone killed off! Everyone but you! Is this what the fans wanted?! Will this save the ending?!!
While Zeke from behind - "So it was you".
Eren: Hear me, subject of Eren.
I think he's very good at introducing new things, thickening the plot, worldbuilding, etc. But it seems like he doesn't know how to end it.
It's not an easy thing to put a good enough ending to a story that complex. Most would have failed.
@@notverypog its so easy if you are good enough dude... But its too hard if you think you have to be better
See abu manga review eren defense
I think it should end like that because it's not your regular anime it's survival based so it would be unexpected and unsatisfying
@@barangumus8964 even if you are good enough the frustration of making an ending is the same
He also said that when he reached near the ending, he realised that the ending his story required was beyond his writing ability.
It’s honestly beyond anyones ability. Shit was so hard to conclude. I don’t blame him
@@thesnipingspider3852 but the plots were there and we knew where the story was headed, yet he made a very different ending from what half of aot fan community expected it to be, he did say he changed the ending when aot grew popular
@@thesnipingspider3852 There's an attack on titan alternative ending called Shingeki no Kyojin no Requiem. It wasn't made by a single person, but a group of individuals who were really passionate about creating a proper ending for AOT. And, to be honest, they fucking nailed it. Give it a read if you're interested.
I'm not completely sure if this is true as well, but apparently, Isayama praised the makers for creating such a great adaptation.
@@stayfrosty8050 well it’s either Eren goes through with100% of the tumbling and kills all his friends he was doing it for or let’s himself die. I think the ending was good but just a minor tweaks like making Annie parents die and shit and just a few more dialogue
@@solaris218 I heard it was being written but haven’t read up on the finished thing. I’ll give it a shot.
He should direct the ending for the anime to his liking...which might also be to the fans liking
It would be unfair to the manga readers imo. But I would still be happy if we get an anime original ending
@@monoka688 It would BE FAIR to the manga readers,since they are the ones spoiling to animeonlys all these years.
It would be karma that they got the ending changed and they cant spoil anything ;)
@@monoka688 also isayama did say that the anime version is the definitive version of aot
i hope we get an ending where everyone thinks eren died but he actually just lives in secret with mikasa for the rest of his life
@@timei2221 that would be really bad no offence
This guy has guts. "Hmm Id like to write my first story. I guess I'll start with a gigantic ensemble cast mystery war epic that spans the characters lives and with time travel shenanigans thrown in."
if you think about aot as human gundams, theres really nothing special about it considering the shitty ending
It isn't even called time travel. I don't understand why people assume it's time travel when actual time travel is completely different.
@@adyan4010 hate when people say this, this issue isn’t the time travel but the way it’s used… even dragon ball did better time stuff
yess lmao😂😂
@@temp1326 wdym the time stuff in aot was godly
I feel bad im sure he has so many regrets about the story and still thinks about it all the time
"No regrets" Once you start regretting,is the end for you.
If the author himself regrets something about his ending.....that means its the death of AoT.
He can make a part 2 of it,eren can saw the future right? So.... The s4 ending is Eren's vision so ..... Idk
@@zekeyeager5832 they should do it like in aot junior high that is was a whole dream of eren . No but Im going with the ending tho. He did a great job no matter what he did
Exactly feel bad for isayama he didn't deserve this over a bad ending what fans said worst part is you're fanmius and you write bad ending
And some people tried to make death thrests of him
@@heyitsania1683 facts men it’s also a show it’s not real people have to relax. We should be thankful that isayama wrote a masterpiece to us
You shouldn't have used the fan translation to prove your point, especially since it was already changed in the tankōbon anyway. Saying that he regrets his ending is twisting his words to push an agenda that is blatantly false and malicious. "For lsayama, the last part of the manga is a difficult theme beyond his ability. Isayama feels that he has not been able to fully express these themes with the manga, so he regrets it. The closer to the final chapter, the harder Isayama would try searching for reviews and comments online."
Putting the highly interpretative claim that Isayama became more insecure closer to the final chapter aside, this only means that he regrets being unable to properly express what he wanted to portray, not that he dislikes the major themes of his ending like what you're trying to imply. Huge difference.
Somebody with a decent intelligence, welcome
Ikr, it all ends the same way even if Isayama travels back in time to redo it. He will only express it in a more better way.
These people have no brains, like if ur gonna make a freaking video get ur shit correct its the very least u can do. Smh
What bothers me here is that you think he's saying that isayama dislike the major themes of the Manga ending when he didn't even mention them in this video. You didn't like the title and what he's saying so now you jumping to conclusions about the guy based on something he didn't even claim or imply.
He said nothing wrong in this video you people are over reacting and reaching
Solution: Direct the anime's ending better than manga's ending. So that fans can appreciate it.
*END OF THE DEBATE*
Someone has to send this to isayama
@@user-gd3li1nl3b its funny how you feel that animators would be able to give a better ending than the writer... If isayama wasnt able to produce a good ending, then there is not even the slightest chance that animators would be able to do so
@@agnivmajumdar215 what who tf said anything about the animators?? isayama should be the one to change the ending of the anime if hes unhappy with it
@@agnivmajumdar215 animators don't write scripts lmao
@@user-gd3li1nl3b you cant change the plot like that, the anime has to stay true to the manga. Also the animators don’t have the power to change scripts as the guy above me said so they have no choice.
He developed Erens character so much that he didn't know how to conclude his character 😂
whole development goes to sink when the plot twist came of eren real cause of his own mother's death. when whole story he was there to avenge his mother's death and kill people who broke the walls
How did he cause his own mother's death?
@@amateratsu5922 he sent the titan (his father's wife) to eat his mother.
@@supreme.__.
Eren being built up for chapters and chapters towards a character arc that is summed up as: “I’ve always been who I am from the moment I was born. If someone tries to take my freedom, I’ll take theirs first”
Then 139 comes along and welp, fuck that shit, it was just a prank bro.
@@kytsunee6324 i see him breaking down at the end as him reverting back to his childish selfish self he always was and it makes sense he put on the chad eren as a front but the armin forgiving him thing didnt make any sense
well the thing is Attack on Titan production delay allows him to rewrite what he wasn’t satisfied with in the manga so we could get a better ending with the anime
Hopefully....I really really really hope Mikasa and Eren end up together...ffs
@@zabiorocks8676 we all r hoping for it
@@rudrochowdhury833 yeh the two been through so much get they didnt get to be together
@@zabiorocks8676 sorry to say but that sounds very unlikely
@@zabiorocks8676 No way. Look Mikasa and Eren loved each other sure, but Eren cannot survive. His sins are too great, he is supposed to die for his friends. I would definitely love to see the paths scene with Mikasa and Eren extended though. Showing them, reaching their early 20's together in the cabin waiting for Eren to die from Ymir's curse, would destroy viewers emotionally. The realization of it being a long dream would be somewhat cathartic too. It would be great. Cant wait for S4p2
I feel bad. Imagine pouring your blood sweat and tears into something and having all your fans hate it.
I loved the ending.
I hated the ending
I haven't seen the ending
Ending was mid.
didn't the fans pay for it??? if so they have the right to critisize it since they literally spend thee time reading it and promoting it
they should've just let him write his ending were all the characters being dead and an unresolved hanging ending. it's so fitting.
"Armin decided it was okay" he literally says Eren's actions were a mistake. Armin is thanking Eren for his intentions, not his actions.
“Thank you for turning yourself into a *mass murder* for our sake”. He literally just thanked the action 💀
Wasn't that line from the fan translation and the official one was less...clunky?
Armin is a genocide supporter, change my mind
@@NoMustang273 they are similar but a bit different. Official from the volume i own is "Thank you. You became a mass murderer for our sake. I wont let this terrible mistake you're making be in vain." I'm not gonna pretend this is some amazingly written dialogue, but it's very clear Armin condemns the genocide. Given the context of the scene, it's obvious the emphasis should be on "for our sake". Armin is glad that Eren did truly care about his friends and that Eren's actions and words at the table scene were a facade. That's what the scene is about.
How does that make it better?
"Genocide is bad, but you had good intentions so thank you" 🤣
He lost focus and instead of looking inside of himself and finding what started the story he seeked external validation. From blood thirsty stans. The same stans that didn't care and raged on Twitter about Japan having to delay the episode due to an earthquake. He should have taken his time instead of rushing.
Isayama wrote 1-123 it’s just the final arc that was ruined he shouldn’t have looked for opinions from shippers hopefully the anime will have a different ending
Yea it should 100 % rumbling not 80 %
@@Spantzcatdog exactly! To show no matter how hard you try, humans will always kill one another. That is the way is should have ended.
@@Spantzcatdog why does Paradis need to have a civil war tho?
Must feel awful writing something so successful and having so much pressure to end it incredibly only to not only fail to do that according to your standards, but disappoint your fans. Although the fanbase itself isn’t always reasonable.
not only that, most of the manga readers are literally going to some free manga website.
I love the ending though idk why everyone hates it
@@ay6033 I don’t hate it personally. I actually rather like it.
@@ay6033 its because we get simp ending.
and most ppl are hating on it. I agree ending isnt what we expected but damn, fans needs to take a chill pill.
The most realistic ending would be to destroy everyone outside the island cause we see what happens if that doesn't happen.
If eren can erase memories why not do that
Why kill them all 🤔
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 Founding titan can only erase the memories of Eldians not the Marleyans which is why the island thought they were the last humans at the start of the series cause Karl Fritz erased the islands memories with the founding titan so the Marleyans would never stop hating the Eldians and would destroy the island.
So seeing the island was in danger Eren used the founding titan to use the colossal titans to attack the world but his mistake was not finishing the job because a few decades later the peace treaty is broken and Marley destroys the island making Erens genocide all for nothing and leaving a cliff hanger where Mikasas descendant gets the founding titan from a giant tree where Erens head was buried.
@@darkswords147
Thanks for explaination
I still think what eren did was pure wicked peace attempt could have been made by intimidating or just talking over it
Ideology of killing your enemies to gain peace is fkd up
Had Isayama ended the series with Eren wiped out the entire human population, it would have been perfect. I am not a cold person or anything, but that's where he is directed the story. Eren, who used to be an angry boy and wants to kill all of the titan, started to learn about the truth about the world. He eventually grew up and did not hate his enemy anymore. He understood them. But since the enemy insisted on the annihilation of the people of Paradise island, he had to do it. Regardless of whether he is emotionally conflicted or guilty, he has taken a stance to do what he needs to do to save his people. That's literally the general theme of AOT. People realize that the other side is just human like them, but they have to do their duty.
That’s why i don’t like the ending. Isayama direct this to the way as you say.
Exactly tell this to his editor
That makes no sense though to the anti fascism, anti war, anti genocide etc stance for AoT and basically said ‘genocide works’, also eren literally wanted to he stopped and even disagreed with what he was doing and would have never killed his friends which was part of the two reasons he did the rumbling, for his own desires and dream but also for his friends. Its not Isayamas fault you misunderstood his character.
@@JoesSmirkingRevenge yeah LOL. People just don't get it.
@Isaiah Wood67 So tell me the most complex explanations of AOT, smart guy !
The guy just did the work.
He "Finish the whole thing".
Hands down the greatest archievement that many couldn't figured.
I have lots of respect for all those who did that.
he should have just let eren do the rumbling and now all eldians are free. not every show needs a happy ending.
They should have respected him by giving all the time he needed to arrive at an ending that would satisfy him
exactly
I liked the ending. It wasn't perfect and felt a lil rushed but I can appreciate the difficulty writing a conclusion to such a complex story.
It was better then the new 5 god damn pages, erens death didn’t mean crap and Mikasa got laid by Jean
@@airdrop4662 See the fact that a portion of the fandom focuses on sex is actually really counterproductive. I'm willing to bet though, you guys are probably just young and inexperienced. Kinda like Eren lol The extra pages are hard to process by many sure, but I understand it.
As Erwin Smith once said, “Humanity will never stop fighting itself.. until it shrinks to a size of one or fewer.”
@@EnveeH2 Bro You Aren't Getting It If Her Whole Life She Want Eren and Eren Whole Life Struggling To Get Mikasa And A For Who He Kind Of Killed 80% humanity Think How Much people Will Get Mad 💀Well I Know That She Didn't Got Married But People Won't Read Guidebook Right
@@EnveeH2 why are you thinking like that you are the only one matured and experienced person unlike the rest here? you must be thinking highly of yourself that you can look down on people like that.
@@rioshin8209 but he’s correct tho
It is ruined lmao, he basically made our main character destroy the whole world and in the end it was for nothing. The whole point was for him to eliminate all threats and in the end what happens is, he destroys 80% of it so war still continues, eren says he doesn’t know why he did it which is completely stupid, and mikasa killing eren could’ve been a great moment for her character had she actually moved on from him, she wore his scarf to her grave and forced her family to visit him for decades. And that confession to mikasa was dog shit, for one it wasn’t even a love confession he basically just said he wanted her to remain obsessed with him forever and then he contradicts that by saying he wants her to move on. This ending was so shit and I understand why isayama hates it, people only defend it because they’re in it for ships, which is probably why isayama felt pressured in the first place. All in all, he should remain professional and ignore his editor bc they’re being biased and he should ignore these shippers and he should write what he intended to write, hopefully he learns from his mistakes because this was truly the best story ever, and now it’s ruined
A dark ending is the only ending that will fit the plot that isayama developed.
Right, what would a dark ending entail exactly?
@@Finn-lv5vd eren kill alliance and complete the rumbling. The mass murderer character like annie and riener and also marley are alive and a dark ending can only do justice to story.
Read aot no Requiem.
@@futureboy6283 Sorry but you misunderstand the story why would Eren want to kill the alliance? they are the very people he swore to protect at the start of the story. What you want makes no sense.
@@Finn-lv5vd exactly my thoughts. These people doesn’t understand Eren and what he really wanted. They just want him to be a mass murder for no reason. I feel bad for Isayama they understood Eren wrong and blame him
I don't care... Attack on Titan will always be a masterpiece. The best animé ever.
Berserk
HunterxHunter
@@SexLuthor berserk attack on CGI
Agreed, one of the best anime’s I’ve ever seen! I know what happens from beginning to end in the manga but I’ve decided to try read it to see if I’ve missed anything and I was gifted my first volume today as it is my 13th birthday, ☺️
@@syazrilazri5773 Totally agreed. Hunter x Hunter is also one of the BEST animé out there.
well the ending for anime was perfect.
its garbage
How much crack were you smoking to believe that? Lmao
As a writer the ending makes me want to write. How could you possibly write a near masterpiece for what a decade? and then completely ruin it in such a short amount of time. Makes me want to finish my story. What a terrible ending, absolutely appalling
The ending was pretty good and most importantly cathartic for everyone. Eren used his brain for once and altered the ''titan capabilities'' in a way no one could use Ymir's power ever again. Who cares if Eren and Mikasa never ended up together, because that's the reason everyone hated the ending.
...you do know thats not the reason everyone hated the ending right?
As a beginner writer, I feel so bad for him. I someday would like to write a story, and Im pretty sure what to do but the final part is giving me huge headaches, specially the ending. I really dont know what to do with it. I bet isayama felt the same, he had so much to do and he only did the best he could. And the fact that AOT is so incredible, I think the pressure of writing an ending that makes justice to the entire story gives a new level of difficulty too.
Isayama fucked up the whole thing, he had some good ideas but its just written bad throughout the whole series, terrible decisions and characters for the whole story.
@Static Gaming never watched either of those but damn its amazing how mad you kids get, this guy couldnt write himself out of a wet paper bag. Its boring, characters are severly underdeveloped, plot twists never hit, lore gets convoluted and full of plot holes, and the only likable character is Levi.
They made Armin another Erwin in that scene, Armin would never excuse genocide
I did like the ending tough, I think that it fitted the story and it was somehow expected. I wish he had more time to develop it, but to me it was good. As a fan I felt really happy being able to see the culmination of this great story that I’ve been following for such a long time.
@@ZinaBlyat stfu let him enjoy the ending
I like the ending
@@cane66 you stfu,he just asking
@@ZinaBlyat she is doing great , living life in her own terms
I feel bad for him
yup all the pressure finally got to him and started to affect him which made him start to overthink and get anxiety so it didn't come as naturally to him as it did before he's only human at the end of the day. Aot is still really good just had an unfortunate ending.
With all this time, and working with the anime writer (who he is with friends with) he can properly Express the themes he wanted. At least that's the hope we have. Liked the ending tho.
Yeah ppl don’t know how its very hard to be a mangaka in japan, espescially when your a foreigner. Ppl even talked trash about him because the ending was “bad”. Personally, I don’t read the manga. But I do know spoilers because I go in many AOT videos. But I wouldn’t say the ending was bad.
Imagine being a pathetic isayama stan, that could never be me
@@keyboardwarrior3807 With a name like that, I wouldn't be talking
When he says he was so happy while drawing chapter 91 i could probably understand what he meant it's probably the first scene he got in his mind when aot wasn't even written yet and seeing it translated into a physical paper is just pure satisfaction and well he probably didn't get anything after that.
Guys you don't seem to understand why half of the fans disliked the ending. We've been reading it and following it for years, enjoying the mind-blowing twists and deep story.
Since Marley arc started, we haven't had a proper Eren POV (except for memories). That's from chapter 91 to 138. Keep in mind SnK dropped a chapter every once in a month.
We only knew for sure he had the obsession to be free and protect Eldia at all costs, to the point of literally destroying the whole world.
Now, personally my thoughts during the final arc were: "Ok, he said Zeke's plan was twisted and he's also going to this extreme for a better outcome, must have something HUGE between his hands. Also Grisha obeyed him because he showed him this future he aimed at, the cost is high but the end must be planned from top to bottom for it to be worth it".
Then chapter 139 came and here we are. Whole plot changed, now it turns out love was the main theme of the story. Forty seven months guiding the readers in one direction only to change it last minute, leaving aside what he didn't explain ("only Ymir knows"). It wouldn't have been such a fiasco if he used those 47 previous chapters to introduce this sort of ending. Don't get me wrong, I love EM but not the way it ended. She didn't free herself from anything, still crying over Eren and wearing the scarf until her last day, the least healthy thing ever.
I choose to believe that Isayama wrote himself into a corner introducing so many themes and had a really hard time wrapping it all up, and did the best that he could. Hope in the future he makes an original alternative ending, because SnK is (or could have been) the best story ever told.
Ngl, you're the kindest one out of all the fans who hate it. Very nice explanation, not just straightly hating and leaving no reasons except hate. I kinda agree with you, suddenly it's all about love. I was surprised too by the sudden change. But sort of feel like it was meant to be that way from the start. At least it wasn't that downgrade bad. Hopefully more people would explain why and be nicer. Really feel relieve you stated why you dislike it.
@@skyina._ Thank you! We gain nothing from spreading hate over the thing we all love which is SnK. I also think the anime will have the chance to explain more things and give more meaning to the ending :)
@@joakoovlack7110 thanks for explaining for people because a lot of ending defenders think that we hated the ending because eren didn't live or we just wanted him to be edgy and kill everyone while we just wanted an ending that makes sense and doesn't ruin eren's character development
@@shadowsenpai7151 If mappa remove the line in ch139 would that change your both mind?
@@skyina._ I mean there is a lot of lines they need to change like ymir loving fritz and eren saying " I don't want mikasa with another man" and armin saying "thanks for being a mass murderer"
In my opinion a bad ending CAN ruin the story or at least greatly taint it in a negative way
...Yes... That's the _common_ definition of a Bad Ending.
GOT lmao
@@mr.sweettooth4882 You GOT it !
I personally think because of how complex and intricate AOT was the ending was perfect it shows that even without the titans the cycle of hate and war continues and will inevitably bring back the power of the Titans
Yea the ending of chapter 139 shows paradis getting bombed so basically eren died for nothing and nobody was a hero
I wouldnt blame him..its difficult making a good ending for a great anime and especially when you have an audience with different opinions.
I honestly think eren should complete the rumbling because this was something built up for a hot fucking minute all the way back from season 2 ending and ik people are gonna get upset about that but that just would be the best part it would be a huge twist with zeke stoping the rumbling and it turns out eren is still at paradise and uses historia to continue that would be the best ending in my opinion and ether the main characters would retreat or die fighting but that would be a huge twist in my opinion
Aot will always be my favourite but the fact that he regrets his ending makes feel relieved so I will just pretend that I did not see season 4😌
Imagine mappa changing the ending eren never died and everything would end differently unlike the manga
eren has to die. you cannot make a story focusing on genocide and the genocide-er getting to see it through the end without it seeming like you're pro-genocide
the only semi-satisfying way that the story can end in which Eren doesn't die is a Cautionary tale in which the world gets wiped out. I for one, wouldn't want to see that.
As a begginer writer myself, I know exactly what he's talking about, You can plan out everything in a way that Ties everyone together and every detail means something for the overall story. But ending it all without completely killing entire Plotlines or Leading to some pointless characters is the most difficult part. Personally I think my story was good up until I realized that to end it, Would mean certain characters overall Meant nothing to the story besides filler between the begging and end. For example in aot
Going with the "Eren Kills everyone and Goes back to Historia" ending would mean that the scouts especially Mikasa, Led pointless lives that had barely any impact on Eren overall. What would the point of Making Mikasa Be attached to Eren be, if she dies anyway and Eren ends up with someone else.
That makes perfect sense.
Hey may I ask you something?
yeah and instead Erens whole life was pointless...
Don't spread fake news, in that interview, Isayama didn't say he regrets his ending. He said that he didn't like the way it was presented. He did like his ending and the ending was decent.
The ending was dogshit. Armin is the last fucking person who'd thank his best childhood friend for committing global genocide. He would've ended that friendship right there. But no, Isayama just couldn't commit to Eren being an irredeemable genocidal bastard, so he had to force in a half-arsed redemption at the end.
@@ChavvyCommunist dude wow
@@ChavvyCommunist Absolutely right!!! 👍🏻
He just made the ending more realistic..he regrets it just bcoz of the toxic fans complaining and sending death threats to him
How is the ending realistic? Annie did so many things and they forgave her Just like that. Eren kills 80% of the worlds population and when he is asked why he says idk. What’s so realistic about it? Erens 360 degree turn? Armins x Annie’s relationship? Pieks titan spam?
@@ajcso7844
Its true everything that you said. I cant forgive eren and armin for killing those ppl in marley, but annie gets a free pass?? Marco didnt deserve to die, that part made me really sad when they left him thier to die. Maybe we will get a anime original ending in the show. All we can do is wait. Only 12 episodes left. And possibly a movie.
@@exmotp8349 Yeah poor Marco:( He was literally a saint compared to everybody else. He might of even forgave the warriors i they explained themselves. For me I dislike Armin more then Eren. Armin is pretending that he is fighting for the good of Paradise island. At least Eren admit that what he is doing is a unforgivable crime.
@@ajcso7844
It's funny bcuz Armin is supposed to be a nice thoughtful reasonable anti violence guy in the trio, but not so much anymore. I know ppl defend the manga ending and say we just dont understand it. I get it that eren is doing this for freedom and to protect armin and mikasa and his friends but at what cost?? Getting his head chopped off by mikasa, becoming this genocidal monster, losing mikasa to jean?? I really wanted eren x mikasa to be together in the end but hearing that jean and mikasa end up together just makes me depressed. What's more depressing is after erens death mikasa crys at erens grave for 3 years and shes dies old wearing erens scarf, she never let eren go. It's like mikasa never moved on. She never had the freedom in the end, eren was her only freedom.
@@exmotp8349 Yeah I 100% agree I don't know if you saw the extra scans but it turns out Eren killed 80% of the world for no reason because Paradise still got destroyed. I'm also a Mikasa Eren Ship too. I can't believe she ended up with Horse man. They never really gave him attention. They also destroyed a lot of Eren's character development. He went from this really deep character into a one huge bruh.
BROOOOOOOOOOOOO this anime was my life, but the ending made me so mad, it didn't make any sense. It wont change the fact that its my fav anime but yeah im disappointed.
It’s definitely not easy to close a story like this but I gotta say for me the ending chapters were rushed and just felt soooo out of place so it kinda ruined it for me
Def a drastic noticeable reduction in quality pacing/ and genuine amazing moments after the Marley battle arc,m I think the last truly great chapters were basically 119-122 after that yeah drastic reduction seemed like he was just tying to get it to the end , I get his pressure though I just at the very least he had done something like have Historia have had Erens baby after all that way Eren at least leaves something behind and his family line isn't bloody extinct ya know...which it is...Instead Historia has a random baby with some random guy for no reason, still great series overall but for me yeah aside from maybe a few isolated random moments here and there pretty much nothing from chapter 124-139 really blew me away or had me anywhere near as excited and interested as the countless amazing moments from all previous arcs, It really just came off as something like where he just didn't quite know how to end it, but also wanted to get there as fast as possible so thats a not great combo problem to have ya know, I still love the series overall and Il reread and rewatch AOT chapters 1-123 many times in my life,and watch seasons 1,2,3, and 4 part 1 and first few episodes of part 2, but yeah almost nothing has me particular excited after eren is sho and the paths dimension chapters I really do consider those to be the last truly great moments, not to mention Eren is essentiall ya part time character last 25 chapters, but it also means in hindsight Eren shooting him really did have life altering consequences since its implied he was dead in his human form and could not heal his body ever again, was essentially reduced to a head on titan life support. I appreciate the guts that took to do that I mean having your main character get his head blown off with 20+ chapters left takes guts and it was really well done I thought, but at same time well when your main character is like literally arguably the best character or most interesting and one of the main reasons so many are invested in it, well having your protagonist/antagonist hybrid Main star essentially dead forever in his human form and never having a real scene again in reality few exceptions aside kinda hard to write around that and keep the same interest ya know, not that other characters aren't great to many of them absolutely are its not just the Eren show....but was just another major issue of it is all. So huge guts for killing Eren in 119 with 20+ chapters to go, but also well that sucks..killing your main character off with 20 chapters to go lol, and while its not explicitly said or revealed its highly implied Eren insidet he founding titan was just his head and thats it no body healing or etc there connected to the titan because of Gabbis shot and that he could never return to human form or heal his human body ever again and again thats a huge deal huge twist and takes guts to write that in a way its crazy because it makes erens decapitation truly have life altering consequences that cant be undone, But the whole time its not even said outright thats Erens status and the reader is just left kinda confused like so where's Eren lol cause sure his founding titan is there in a lot of background images saw his head in one panel here and there but otherwise thats it hes barely a part time character last arc really, then it makes bit more sense when Mikkas officially kills him in 2nd to last chapter and we see in finale oh ok I guess Gabbis shot really was that serious that really was the end of Erens human life......h was essentially dead this whole time and is stick in the founding titan well damn.....again bold but kinda disappointing to..especially made worse knowing oh so Eren didnt at the very least get to leave behind a child with Historia to at least have a part of himself and his family live on! nope hes just dead...his family line is dead....and he died at age 19 with no girl,no family, no children ,def gonna be in the hiustory books though as a legend for sure but just not very fulfilling and the whole last 20 chapters definately by compoarison a let down and simply forced not as well written and etc overall.....
I think the ending was fitting since eren still had the curse of ymir of living 13 years or die in the hands of mikasa, I think dying naturally would be boring, dying in the hands of your lover seemed more touching. About the rumbling and the release of the titans seemed just right since we wonder as fans of aot of what-ifs. What if the Titans in the walls are released. The final battle is the release of the old wine that has been brewed all along with bitter-sweet ending but kept us drank all the way to keep us watching the series. Becoming FREE for Eren is beyond those walls, and those walls kept the eldians oblivious to the not knowing people exist behind those walls. All people of marleyan are brainwashed that they eldians are spawns of the devil and there's no going around it, it an inevitable war. It is the endgame brothers. It is all fitting too that he has reincarnated as a bird a symbol for freedom, Isayama remained true to the story as it is the logo of the survey corps. Let's just keep an open mind here and not get too attached to the characters of the story as they are just mere ideologies. It's like Isayama saying wake up guys you've drunk too much of it, too admittedly. It's a truly well-woven masterpiece. Freedom is obtained through the sacrifice of the masses for the sake of the future eldians and his lover Mikasa and best friend Armin. Maybe Isayama would offer an alternative ending who knows maybe he would do a rework on it.
I can see what u mean but I think eren deserved more he did all that for mikasa and armin he should’ve have got more time with them and it’s was just to rushed the ending and how everyone dies and the curse of Ymir is gone i feel like it should have been explained more because some fans are still confused about it and everything was just rushed but even thought the ending is beautiful I feel like it could have been betted
Even though *
Better **
Kinda wild that he killed 80 percent of the world and they fought back years later. To me the ending was trying to answer how to stop the cycle of hatred and failed to even attempt to show it. It just gave a reasonable excuse to continue it.
@@supremesaaam1168 exactly! It’s like everything that Eren has done was for nothing and then the curse of Ymir is not completely gone. Like it was more of a cliffhanger than an ending- well tbh it WAS a cliffhanger. It’s like Boruto to Naruto. There’s another version of Eren with a red scarf going inside of the tree with a dog.
I’d have liked a reincarnation type ending better
But anyway I won’t forget all the insane PLOT TWISTS and excellent story
I’ve read the Manga x3 over, and I personally don’t have an issue with the ending. I mean, after all, Eren trapped himself and everyone in a never ending time loop that’s all about his quest for freedom.
So literally, there is no happy ending for this story, and there can’t be a ‘happy’ ending unless the chapter in which Grisha sees Future Zeke and Eren is removed, as well as the Attack Titan’s ability to Transcend Time in its quest for freedom. Essentially, he’ll have to redo tons of work over for the sake of appealing to a half of the fan base that hates the ending.
Me and where I stand? I love the ending. It’s hopeless and bleak, just like how the Dark Fantasy Genre is. Eren was never free, being a slave to the idea of freedom and fighting for it; Eren has condemned everyone, friends and enemies alike, in an never ending time loop because of his selfish desires for freedom; each time the loop “ends” the cycle just repeats again and again.
I enjoyed the ending, loved it even. I never expected a “Happy Ending” with Eren plowing Misaka and raising a family of his own with her, and Armin shacking up with Annie. I expected something that will make me think, just as much as this entire series as a whole did up until this point, and I came to the aforementioned conclusion above.
Everyone is trapped in an endless time loop, all because of Eren’s selfish desire for freedom. *_Everyone_* is a slave to Eren.
Uhh one thing I'd like to argue. Eren didn't condemn anyone in a time loop. the repeating cycle is because of human nature not eren and in the end he never really fulfilled his selfish desires for freedom
Just because he isn't fully content with it, doesn't mean he regrets it. :/
He regrets it bruh
@@shuunobotenzo1992 Why would he dislike a masterpiece.
@@Finn-lv5vd I mean like the ending
@@shuunobotenzo1992 Ending was good IMO, just sad when great stories end.
@@Finn-lv5vd Yeah I think the ending was good I'm just saying from what he said it sounds like he regrets how the ending came out
Isayama doesn't suck at writing! He just tried to accommodate too many fans!
I loved the ending, it has a few kinks but the anime will probably polish it and then it will be perfect
Writing an ending for a story like attack on titan that pleases people is... goddamn hard
I honestly feel like that was the most realistic ending in world view.
Mikasa keeping the scarf on was realistic as people truly can't move on from someone they love their entire life when there isn't a closure talk to talk in person.
Also the marley and eldians in the islands will always have bad blood and would be in arms against each other no matter what even of titans vanished given their history. Also not to forget the world wanted to capture the mineral deposits down in the islands so they would have attacked eventually. Also the other characters going on with their life doing their best to survive through whatever means truly speaks a realistic value. So overall it's a ending that we fans might not have wanted but it sure is a realistic one.
realistic is one thing but HELLO bro this is anime and realistic in not in it. its like u r saying its find if i be bullied by people my entire life and be loser forever till i die as long as other people are happy by bullying me and taking advantage of me. Which i dont think u will do that in realife would u?
@@qifry5367 you make 0 sense.
@@reditis1256 exactly that was the message smart
Naw bruh fans always want more “realism” till that realism kills the fantasy of it, even looking at previous erens confessions and outburst don’t make sense to HIS character. No one was watching attack on titans for how “realistic” it was
If ur disappointed with that terrible ending why don’t u just change it
I think he will fix it in the anime,I heared he might change the ending for the anime.
@@a.e6456 really??
@@tatakaetatakae3828 yes,many people have told me this and I believe it might happen
Yes. He probably have to do that. It gives me now depression 😭
@@jennydianebarcellano7971 ey same bro. Lets bring 2 box of tissues lol
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Anyone find is strange that Ymir is free after mikasa kills eren. Even after king fritz died, Ymir still loved him and built Titans in paths. So hence therefore we can conclude that she was still a slave to her love for him. Now if Ymir and Mikasa are connected (which they are). How in the fuck is Ymir considered free if Mikasa continues to hold onto her scarf. Mikasa continues to be a slave to her love for Eren even after he dies. So TELL ME, HOW IS YMIR FUCKING FREE? Such a huge contradiction that I don’t see anyone talking about.
Ymir's character was so awful
I don’t think you folks truly get what isayama was trying to do. This ending was never meant to be happy. He is actually on a higher level of thinking than most people. The theme of always self hating and being a slave and obsession to something is real. That’s the reality of the world we live in and the path we will continually take.
Never meant to be happy? Pretty sure majority of the main characters are still alive and get to live out their lives...
Fan base is toxic
Idc ending was perfect
@@takasugi6688 like I won't say ending was perfect
But if was good
But the way people overreact 😹😹😹lmao
They don't even know why to hate it
They would just copy others
@@AqwDragulum but paradis gets destroyed at the end of the day, it shows you how everyone is flawed in their reasonings in a way.
He doesn’t regrets the ending itself but not able to put across the messages through words
To me the ending means everything, I always evaluates a movie or tv show or anime based on their ending...I mean what's the point of watching a masterpiece storyline with a shitty ending?!!
Completely agree, what's the point of watching/reading a series when the ending basically makes all your time spent into the series a waste
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Based on the manga's ending, AoT is the first anime in the entire history of all animes that has a perfect ending in the first episode and a shitty one in the last episode!!
@@Zoulfaccar.Khafajy i know right the story plot was mind blowing as fuck the enemy are balance the ending shit down the sewer
@@qifry5367 not as worse as Game of Thrones S8 but pretty fucking close alright..
I seen peoples saying this
"The ending is Isayama saying "F*ck you" to the toxic fanbase. And i think Isayama is capable of making a good ending but he instead made a "fan service" ending to the toxic fans"
*Don't attack me in the replies. This is not mines I just saw this.*
I feel like fan service would be just to make a solid ending 😂 the series is too beloved to have any fans who want to see something tacky. The ending wasn’t even bad, just poorly executed over the final arc.
@@Goodmorningmg fr i hope he can change the pacing to clear more things up and execute things a lot better just like how he requested for the uprising arc to have its pacing changed.
i think the end was perfectly fine. It was a realistic way to end it
Always thought no one can beat GOT in bad ending until I saw AOT
GoT was kinda shit all the way through except maybe first three seasons but in retrospect theyre horrible too because all the plot lines turn irrelevant
At this point I'm a 100% confident i could have written a better ending. It's seriously not hard to make it better than it is
Im waiting and prove it
I feel Isayama because I experience creating a story and I don't know what to put on it so I was like "BLA BLA BLA am dead" but in the end I've created a decent ending
Can you share your story .
Omg, this is because Manga and Anime AOT could be different timeline:
"Why are you here?" -Eren asked Mikasa after he woke up from a dream in episode 1. He woke up from dying in Manga then goes to Anime timeline 😭😭
Oh shoootttt I'm hyped
That's what keeping my hopes alive...
That's why I hate when the stories are written organically. When the author doesn't know how it will end and just adds cool things without thinking about what it will lead to.
I mainly blame the industry itself, not authors: authors often do not know for how long their stories will last: publishers could tell you to wrap it up early, or demand that the story needs to be longer that it is necessary.
So all of this leads to the sloppy endings. It's especially painful when an epic story spanning years has no satisfying ending.
I hope he doesn't change it. I actually liked the ending
They misinterpreted his Interviews again, he basically states that He should have expressed it more better, so even if he redo it the endgame will be the same just expressed in a more better way than what he did last time.
He also says he to draw the definitive endings of the other characters since probably the fans won't probably like it. That's why the open ended ending happened.
Then vocal fans went bonkers with the last chapter which softens his reluctance to write down that definitive ending, so he made thise extra chapters creating a more clearer ending while still keeping most of the character's ending vague.
@@Snzn18 Yeah, I made this comment before watching the video, and my other one after watching it. Thanks for explaining
The ending was a bit rushed but we need to thank Isayama for ending his story
@@qoenntrell don't worry 139 chapter is 100% cannon
I hope he does
I am grateful that Isayama wrote one of the best manga, but the ending does sucks.
In the anime,its new ending so
@@ms.tinabiscuit we don’t know that for sure. It’s just a theory
@@AveChristusRex789 wow really?Im hoping for a new ending tho
While I personally didn’t like the ending I still respect isayama for writing such a tale
I excepted the anime to change the ending where eren gets redeemed because animes change the ending to make a more happy ending.But I was disappointed.For me season 3 is the finale of attack on titan.I'll pretend season 4 doesn't exist.
Aot finally ended in anime today 11/4/23
i hope he changes the ending tho ..he can post another new chapter as the actual ending and delete the previous one ..we're all for it ..and it's totally okay making an end hile everyone expecting it to be good must have been super stresseful for him
He screwed the pooch when he made Jean, Connie, Armin, and Mikasa betray their nation. From there it all went downhill.
can someone tell me why ppl hate the ending? i found it really good and fits to the entire cruel sad story this is what humans do since the beginning of time 'i mean in real life' the circle of hate / war / killing is never ending how many time u sacrifice things it will continue to happen till the end of time it was perfect to me but i guess most people did not understand the depth of it i really want the anime to have the same ending without any change
sorry for my bad english
bcz it was an rushed mess filled with plotholes? ending was trash
Tell him to comeup with another relevant ending..
Isayama once say that the original ending which he had planed was so cruel so he changed it
Im happy with the ending. I hated the chapter 139. Until the extra pages came out. Then I laughed and agreed with the ending.
Paradis either wins, or loses. There is no inbetween.
Then what was the point of the entire anime? Paradis still gets destroyed by the world in the end
Actually he didn't regret the ending he regretted how he executed some scenes like the armin one. He was actually pretty confident on the ending on making people happy.
Subbed. You are absolutely right. Thank you for raising this point.
Y’all are overreacting, it’s not even bad🥱
ur right its trash
let them cry
Ending of aot doesnt even feel like aot. Its another anime altogether. Lol
...one thing what happened to Berserk Titan, Like they just showed it once and then it disappears from the show....... LIKE WTF-.
It wasn't cannon
literally only added to the anime so WIT could have a more epic season finale i swear lol, it wasnt in the manga
.... wait what does Berserk Titan's specialty is.
To this day, I fantasies about isayama uploading to his blog some additional content that canonicaly rewrites the portion of the story things started to go wrong (depending on where you believe the series started to decline)
at least there are fanfics that some even have a would-have-been better ending than *this* canon.
though that is more simulating the want rather than canonically Real. [Sighed]
To this day i hope someone burns down that sauna...
@@calibula95 😂😂😂😂😂
I think the ending was rushed. The themes in the last chapter werent properly conveyed in the previous chapters and thus many of us were confused with several characters actions. Not just the ending but the entire Rumbling arc needs some adjustment I think.
I think his ending was actually written well in terms that it made sense with everything that had been established to that point… minus there being enough titans within the walls to encompass every part of the earth (realistically, they would have become spaced out enough while walking out from paradi that much of the world would see only one Titan or none by the time they came by). It also wasn’t realistic that 80% of humanity was killed off either unless that was due to ripple effects from destroying the ecosystem and other life around the area. Eren’s actions and motivations though, as well as many other characters actions and motives, were very understandable until the bitter end.
Looking for ways to end the manga online is further proof that he had a different ending in mind.
No matter he sticked to it
A ANIME known world wide
A pure art
For me the concept of his tragic ending had alot of potential of it but poorly executed, for me there are few lacking components on the concept of his ending specially a part of concluding Eren's character, what is the meaning of freedom to him? Is there even a freedom in the first place or everyone is a slave to something? And we know Eren kept on moving forward to go through a living hell which is his war against the whole world, what did he saw beyond that hell? Is it hope? Or another hell? Did he really do the rumbling for the sake of the Eldians? If that's the case why did he even let his friends have the chance to stop him? Isn't better to just end everything? Or the miniscule of humanity within him felt an extreme sense of guilt thus he gave his friends the chancen to stop his henious actions? If he didn't do the rumbling for the sake of his friends and his fellow Eldians then what is his true intentions behind the rumbling? When Armin asked him if its necessary for him to go this far? He simply answered He don't know. Is it because his emotions and thoughts are conflicted because his actions breeds more than one intention and emotion to him?
I cant believe he took gantz email seriously
I’m gonna give isayama credit for this, because he does care about making a good and satisfying ending. I feel like a lot of other companies (like Sony, Activision, etc) are like “i’m satisfied with this movie/game, people are definitely going to love it”. And it comes out and people hated it and start to question the creators.
One big thing people misunderstand is the fact that eren did not pull a lelouch, his goal wasn't to become the bad guy and make his friends heroes or something. It was just a bonus, he said himself that he would do the rumbling even if he knew his friends wouldn't stop him. But yeah I have my problems with the ending too it wasn't the best ending.
Not easy when you have only 1 month and 50 pages to finish up everything
The ending itself is very hard to understand and I could tell that just from watching it. Also I feel like he could have put things even more well together(a lot of people think the stuff about Eren calling himself an idiot is dumb) maybe if he had time, I am someone that has been able to understand the ending and the time paradox created with Eren’s power but yea, it seemed like the author wasn’t able to make the ending exactly how he wanted it, and he also wasn’t able to explain much of how Eren was able to alter the timeline:
Simple explanation of what Eren did without explaining much of the lore because it would take too long:
Eren uses the founding titan in him to command his attack titan within him to send memories to the past and to himself as well in order to influence the timeline(Ymir broke a lot of limitations on what he can normally do with the founder and attack titan by allowing him to use the founder even tho he isn’t a royal blood because Eren gave her the will to act on her own, a lot of people think that Ymir having the will to act on her own should allow her to leave the paths which isn’t true because she is in the paths because she regretted ever saving King Fritz because the way King Fritz treated her after she saved him felt like punishment and made her lose the will to live because she realized that King Fritz would never look at her the way he looked at all the other woman) and make sure that the rumbling happens, which makes the timeline fixed and there is foreshadowing of the timeline being fixed such as the “dream” Eren has in season one episode one.
I honestly just want to thank Isayama for everything he has brought into my life and for creating this masterpiece of a show.
it was never a happy ending for aot lets just be honest, the ending was predetermined from the beginning of the series and i agree of what you said, eren said it all to armin, also ymir waited for somebody to end this living nightmare because she couldnt do it herself and kept on obeying king fritz for 2000 years, then she saw mikasa who was willing to sacrifice her own love for the sake of the world and broke the curse.
Hope they change the anime to a better ending that’s more appealing to the fans.
@@Spantzcatdog well up to 131 with the exception of the lazy writing of the alliance, AOT WAS a masterpiece with some of the character development, political conflict, and moral debates.
Here we go again. Garbage ending protected by the worst of fans that enable more series to give shit ends.
That's not what he said bruh💀