Peptide Therapy to Optimize Healing - BPC, Thymosin B4, Pentosan Polysulfate, GH Secretagogues
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- Dr. Timmermans' lecture on how he uses various peptides to assist healing in patients who are suffering from pain. Peptides discussed include BPC-157, Thymosin Beta-4 (sometimes incorrectly called TB500), Pentosan Polysulfate Sodium (PPS), and growth hormone (GH) secretagogues such as CJC 1295 w/o DAC (AKA Mod GRF 1-29) and Ipamorelin.
If you'd like to purchase oral BPC-157, click here: bit.ly/3gTNrEI
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If you’re new to my channel, my name is Dr. Drew Timmermans, ND, RMSK. I’m the founder of Regenerative Performance in Gilbert, AZ, specializing in interventional orthobiologics, which is just a fancy way of saying we help people reclaim their life from chronic pain without steroids or surgery. We challenge the conventional pain management approaches by addressing the root causes of chronic pain.
How I got here…
22 yrs old: Graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Kinesiology from the University of Western Ontario.
23 yrs old: Competed as a long sprinter, anchoring the 4x400m relay to a silver medal at the Canadian national championships, contributing to Western's first national title in men's track and field.
23 yrs old: Started working as a personal trainer for GoodLife Fitness in Canada, quickly becoming one of the Top 10 Personal Trainers nationwide.
23 yrs old: Herniated two discs in my lower back, ending my track and field career and sending me into a multi-year battle with chronic pain.
24 yrs old: Enrolled at the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine (now Sonoran University of Health Sciences) after discovering my passion for naturopathic medicine.
26 yrs old: Still battling chronic back pain, I finally became pain-free through a platelet-rich plasma injection.
28 yrs old: Graduated and become a licensed naturopathic doctor.
29 yrs old: Completed the first-ever residency in regenerative medicine and integrative pain management at the Neil Riordan Center for Regenerative Medicine.
29 yrs old: Co-founded Regenerative Performance to help people with chronic pain just as I had been helped.
Today: We help people who have chronic joint pain reclaim their life with cutting edge treatments like platelet rich plasma, and stem cell therapy.
To everyone battling chronic pain, remember that your story is still being written.
Never give up.
Dr. Drew Timmermans, ND, RMSK
FULL DISCLOSURE: I create content to share my expertise and help as many people as possible. My goal is to build trust and provide valuable information to those seeking alternative solutions for chronic pain management and bring in new patients into our practice.
Timestamps
BPC-157 @5:36
Thymosin B4 @17:07
GH Secretagogues @25:37
Pentosan Polysulfate Sodium (PPS) @39:53
Tying it all together @48:18
For those looking to try BPC-157, this is the current product I use personally and recommend for my patients, as it is the stable form of BPC-157: bit.ly/3kxMmYg
Hi dr Timmermans, i’m From Belgium and my doc here wants me to try the BPC-157 for chronic ibs but he doesnt know where to get good capsules in Europe!?
@@nefilaswanson3187 sorry I dont have any good sources in europe.
Which peptide for sprains and strains of ligaments could you stack BPC-157 and TB 500 together?
If I had a sprained ligament (we dont strain ligament we strain muscles), i would personally use BPC-157, Tb4, and modGRF + Ipamorelin.
Hey drew, recovering from a accident recently with bad facial injuries, b4 the accident i was taking cjc1295. Do u think it would help with healing process quicker?
Absolute best thing I've ever seen on CZcams concerning peptides.
And I'm currently working on an updated lecture!
@@DrewTimmermansND I can't wait!
I’ve gotten to the age where my body is making me watch an hour of peptide talk. 🤦🏻♂️ it all happened so fast 😢😂
You are still here maybe you should be thankful for that
Lmao same. Who am I?? This wasn’t me a year ago lol.
@@GiGi-dd5cr hits you over night it does seem. I just wish I can sleep on my stomach with my leg hiked up 😂
Same tendon repair next week and I’m here for ANY and All things to help my quickly aging body heal ASAP
@@texasmom76 get yourself some mk677
My father has had many back surgeries in his lifetime, and unfortunately, he is constantly in pain or discomfort. I sent him a few videos on BPC 157 and TB-500. He's 72 this year and overweight. He cant exercise because of his pain, so it's extra hard for him to lose weight. He hasn't said anything about yet. And he's old school and would probably be a hard sell. Man, I wish he would just give it a shot. There really aren't any harmful side effects either. I'll have to send him this video. Thanks Dr!
I hope it helps him!
I’ve very impressed with Dr Timmermans, a Dr that’s not pro phama, and listens to the patient in terms of their body.
I'm pro pharma in very specific circumstances, but not globally across the board. I think that's an important distinction to make!
He’s not pro-abuseofpower,😉.
Oral BP157 put my Microscopic Colitis in remission. I so wish more doctors were educated in this. It would save so much suffering.
Thats so amazing to hear
@@DrewTimmermansND and amazing to experience!
Which oral BPC did you use?
This is the one we use personally and for all patients: bit.ly/2WsJtby
@@DrewTimmermansND what about the bpc 157 cream?? Is that for spot treatment to the area for muscle , joint, tendon etc...or just wound healing? Thanks for all your videos.
Liking and commenting so that this hopefully hits the algorithm and more people will find it - this is the best compilation on the topic out there.
Appreciate that ❤
One of the very few podcasts that has inspired me to take notes. 👍
Great to hear!
Thank you so much for putting out this information. It is tremendously valuable!
My absolute pleasure
Outstanding! PhD level lecture on super-exciting topic.
Tremendously valuable.
Thanks.
Appreciate those kind words 🙏
So good i had to watch it twice .. thanks doc. !
Appreciate that!
Super intelligent and an amazingly interesting doctor.
One of the best informative presentations I’ve seen.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you thank you thank you for this video
I can't thank you enough
My pleasure
This video cleared up some misconceptions out there on several different peptides. I now know the difference between some of them, which is going to make my next order more targeted to my goals. Thank you very much for the detailed explanations of these peptides.
My absolute pleasure
Excellent as I have a possible upcoming surgery and looking at peptide to aid in recovery.
Extremely good presentation 👍👍👍 I used bpc 157 and tb500 as well as mk677 a lot and with a lot of success. I did it on my own thought. 😅
Did u have any side effects at all?
I have leaky gut and ibs can i use it
@visionsno yes it can help those conditions. We use the InfiniWell brand as they use the arginate salt. We specifically use the Rapid Pro capsules. We have a 20% patient discount code on our website regenerativeperformance.com/supplements
Did you heal fully? You use injectables? Can you link where you bought?
So informative! Thank you Brotha
My pleasure
Awesome content, thank you
My pleasure!
Well done
Great job with the presentation here!
Thank you!
Im going to try this to help me with neurological damage from Gullian-Barre Syndrome, excited to try
This is the oral version we recommend in case you didn't see the pinned comment - bit.ly/3gTNrEI
Amazing lecture thanks much!
Hi! Thank you so much for your channel. I just wanted to introduce myself, Dr. Maisam Hasan, currently practicing in California!
Pleasure to meet you!
Thanks for great content
Thanks for watching!
Drew, Thank you for doing these videos. My dad had a stroke. He's stuck in sub standard inpatient rehab facility. I'm using your videos to educate him and get him to try and heal faster and get home faster.
Hello Joe, any experience you can share now?
I have hole in my heart that produced a blood clot & essentially a stroke last week. Everything was fine but my upper left peripheral vision is screwed. Funny enough, I have bpc157 in my fridge that i ordered before the stroke. I'm familiar w/ the bpc157 study on stroke induced rats that showed remarkable brain recovery. I'm still a bit timid to take it because I don't want to make things worse or have some drug interaction as dr's put me on eliquis & a beta-blocker until I get my heart repaired. Would love more of my vision back though. Would love to know more.
Love it 🔥
Thanks 🔥
This Dr. gets it. He is not afraid to step beyond establishment hash-lines. He is more for attacking the problem and addressing it than masking it through pharmaceutical meds and unnecessary surgeries.
Question: I ordered the HEALTH BPC 157 capsules. Would I get more benefit by opening the capsule and doing it sublingually first before ingestion or not?
Appreciate those kind words.
That approach wouldn't hurt, but not sure how much it would help as I dont know if the buccal absorption is good or not with the capsule formulation.
Awesome video. Currently using BP-157 and TB-500 after 2 PRP shots for my gluteal tendinopathy. Slow progress but getting there...
Updates?
Gluteal tendonopathy… this is interesting… what are your symptoms? I hope your well!
Hey mate, any updates? I got a gluteal tendinopathy too, been using tb4, any progress?
@@MrSqu1shy can u link me real TB-4 to buy online?
Dr T, will you please to a video on tesamorelin and the benefits of adding it as the ghrh to ipamorelin? Thank you and love your videos. I have learned a ton
That video will be made at some point!
I find myself watching you nightly now. Just started BPC-157 for horrible shoulder pain an hour ago and might stack it with TB500. I truly enjoy your lectures, and if you were in my state ( I don't know, maybe you are) you would be my PCP. Thank you!
I hope that helps clear up your pain!
I’m interested in starting this myself. Are you mixing it together and injecting it? I’m curious if it matters where on your body you administer tb 500
How were your results?
@@skmg2888 Thanks for asking. I never ran the TB500 but I did run the 157 for a while. I also stopped benching and trained my chest with another means. I am about 80% better. I'll take that. It rarely bothers me now. I need to stay away form most side lateral movements and bench presses except on rare occasion, and I'm golden. I also used a lot of red light therapy which I still use. I think that played a big part as well.
@@nuclearkamikaze Yes, I reconstituted and injected it using bacteriostatic water. I thought about adding it in as an oral as well, seeing as how it is one peptide that you can, but I found that not to be cost effective. I also chose the sub q route for injection site in the effected deltoid. Even though it is considered a "smart peptide" and is said to find it's way to the area that needs increased blood flow for healing, I went as close as possible. If I had a knee issue, I would have gone close to the knee. It just makes sense to me.
Thank you for this video I feel like this was the best one I’ve watched and I’ve watched a lot. I’m starting a daily oral dose of BPC 157 in a few days to help with some nagging golfers elbow and a few other injuries. I think I’m gonna take it for one month early and see how I feel then I might even try a month of injecting it close to the golfers elbow.That was recommended by a doctor to start orally he thinks I’ll see results within two weeks I’m pretty excited nagging injuries have slowed me down a lot in the last few years I’m excited to heal them up.
My pleasure man! And I'm excited to hear of your results!
Yes please share your experience with us here! Best of luck!
What's the brand of your bpc and where can I buy this sir? Thanks lot
This is the only oral one we recommend: bit.ly/2WsJtby
How did it work out for you?
Thanks for making this public. My life is trial and error with health issues. When I was a kid I took shots of HGH due to pituitary issues. Around age 13 I had extreme anxiety and depression and insomnia. Basically had that ever since (nearly 40 now) and have tried various antidepressants, TMS, Ketamine..everything. Then I stumbled on Selank and it worked better than anything I've tried. Not sure why the doctors didn't go for more pituitary focused methods but what one country approves of another sees as useless I guess. Only thing I'm trying to figure out is the physicality with Selank. Can't find much information on it. SSRIs definitely slowed me down for certain workouts (martial arts for instance) and I can't tell if Selank is doing something similar or if it's actually helping coordination/power output. I also have hypermobile joints (last SSRI helped me tear my right shoulder) so might look into the BPC for that. Doing experiments
I'm terribly sorry to hear that. It may be worth researching and exploring cervical instability especially if you are hypermobile, as this can cause a whole host of central neurological issues. No idea if that's your case, but might be worth exploring.
Is Selank a prescription? or OTC ?
I have hEDS and about to research peptides.
I don't get how we came to 250-500mcg/d on BPC 157. Why don't we go higher? Why not longer? Not any evidence of cancer in rodent models
Hey! The 250-500mcg/d dose for BPC 157(vitalbpc157) is based on limited human data and rodent studies. Higher doses or longer use could have unknown risks since it's not well-researched in humans yet. Better to stay cautious and wait for more research to ensure safety.
@@PamelaShine-q8e in that case, why take it at all? Avoids all of the risk, especially considering how little data there is in humans
Hey Drew,
Appreciate the content. Have been researching various peptides over the past 8 months with an interest in healing and recovery. I enjoy reading the studies and breaking down the data. As this is still very underground in comparison to conventional or western medicine there are many nuances. I believe hormonal and or naturopathic clinics will certainly be the go to in terms of guidance and transparency as they have clinical tools and knowledge as well as access to compounding pharmacies. In the description you've provided a link to DNA health and I was wondering if you knew where they sourced their peptides from, maybe a specific compounding pharmacy?
Best,
Drew
Hey Drew, DNA Health is a supplement company therefore they don't purchase raw materials from compounding pharmacies. They own the patent for BPC-157 arginate salt. I don't know who actually produces that.
Not a fan of ND, but this guy really appeared to know his stuff…. Very impressed
Not all NDs are created equal. Appreciate the comment
@@DrewTimmermansND You familiar with Dr Heather Smith Fernandez ?
No, just looked her up. Haven't ever heard of her
@@DrewTimmermansND she down in Florida, has a large wellness clinic….. she created the practice terms Peptologist, Peptology…… Even offers a “certification”and ways to incorporate and market peptides into ones practice.
It's great to see that more doctors are using peptides more and getting the message out that they can help. I think it's a little much for us to start adding these terms to them, especially because the word peptide does not just apply to the medical peptides we use. A peptide is just a sequence of amino acids, and is ubiquitous throughout biology and physiology. I've been studying peptides for 9 years now, back when you had to find obscure forums to even learn about them because no doctors were even using them that long ago.
Awesome lecture. I'm born in London. Fellow Canuck in the States... Picked up the accent:)
I love it! Good catch 😀. Not sure if you looked into my background but I was born in Strathroy and went to Western for my undergrad.
@@DrewTimmermansND I saw you wnet to western. I'm from Ottawa and moved to Maryland in 99'. Cheers. I've been looking into Peptides SARMS as of late. Thank you for sharing this valuable information.
Great information here Doc!
Welcome to the future ladies and gentlemen. Peptides are awesome!
BPC-157 @5:40
Thymosin B4 @18:30
GH Secretagogues @26:11
Thanks for the timestamps man! Always forget about that
I like it
Wow thanks Doc. This is one of the best lectures I’ve seen on these peptides! For some reason injecting CJC + ipamorelin before bed gives me issues as well. It’s like a slightly elevated heart rate with a heavy pounding sensation. Nothing crazy but enough to keep me up, which is strange because supposedly these peptides don’t raise cortisol. It doesn’t seem to happen every time though. If I take it during the day it’s not noticeable whatsoever.
Also, any chance you’ve delved into GHK-Cu in another video?
Glad you enjoyed it! I haven't yet done a deep dive video, but it will be included in my next lecture on peptides!
Sorry, do you inject yourself for OA?? I’m intrigued
Ipamorelin can like other HGH substances, can decrease insulin sensitivity and have your blood sugar raise. In your youth you were likely more active and your body acting youthful and you not utilizing the energy likely has a surplus at night.. probably damaging for your pancreas. Just a guess... Based on information from forums on the subject.
Gr8 explination buddie
Ty
Outstanding video, thank you. One question about the HGH quantity released by using GHRH+GHRP. Economically and quantity wise speaking, is it more convenient use straight HGH or is it better use GHRH+GHRP? To how many UI of HGH would be equivalent use 200mcg GHRH + 200 mcg GHRP? I mean, what if I just directly use HGH injections of 2 UI daily?
Wow, this is great! Thanks for sharing! I am currently 7 weeks out from ACDF surgery and was recently prescribed TB4 to aid in my recovery process. I just started today so I can't say definitively that it has helped but my hope is that it will help primarily with the weakness I still have from the nerve damage. Do you think this will help speed up the process of nerve regeneration? Thanks!
That's great to hear! I can't say in your case as I don't know the details of your case, but peptides have amazing capabilities to help patients heal
I have arthritis just above the sinus tarsi area in my left ankle. For about 7 years, I've been dealing with burning, prickling, stabbing inflammation pain that would become more pronounced with certain weather patterns. So I had 2 Prolotherapy injections and then 1 PRP injection.
It helped, but I was still having many bad days. So I opted to try one more aggressive round including the following protocol...
(1) another PRP injection with AOD9604 +HA peptide
(2.) The following 3 weeks, one injection per week of AOD9604 + HA peptide
(3.) .15ml of BPC-157/TB-500 blend injected daily into my ankle for 3-4 weeks.
We'll see what happens...
I hope you see the healing you deserve!
Hi how was the result ? Hope u healed perfectly
Hi Doctor thanks for the info. Do you think that BPC 157 would be helpful after a full hip replacement (4 weeks ago), or at least worth discussing with my surgeon? I am a 28 year old male and generally healthy, replacement was done due to avascular necrosis . We were not able to identify the cause of the avascular necrosis. I have also been experiencing pain in my right shoulder for years, same side as hip. If I do want to talk to my doctor should I consult my GP or surgeon? Thank you so much in advance for any help in this regard.
Just saw a video from 3 yrs ago that SKorea found a peptide to help RA. That brought me to your video. Do you do any work with RA patients (of course they are doing it overseas!!). My 81yo Dad just diagnosed with RA though I’m sure he’s had it for years (5 joint replacements in 5 yrs). Do you think allopathic medicine will ‘prescribe’ peptides for pain?
Doc, could you pls give the reference paper from which you took the graph (at 31:20) of the GHRH & GHRP effect on GH
Heck yes!!! More vids like this!! 👏👏
Question: with the GHRP & GHRH, do you need to take a break from these compounds after a few months? Or can you use it continuously? If so, does the cycle vary by the amount used?
Glad to know you appreciated the video!
It depends on how frequently you're doing the secretagogues. If you're just pinning once per day, if you take one day off per week most people can continue for 6-12 months without any evidence of negative effects. We don't necessarily recommend that though, as we believe that humans evolved to have periods of fasting and feasting. So if someone does GH or GHS for several months, we intentionally want to scale back all anabolic substances and approaches for a few months as well.
@@DrewTimmermansND Understood. Thanks!
At 33:06, I guess there's a mistake. CJC-1295 isn't sermorelin.
- The origin GHRH contains 44 amino acid
- Sermorelin contains the unmodified first 29 amino acids of the origin GHRH, also called GRF 1-29 (half-life shorter than 10 min)
- Mod GRF 1-29 is a modified sermorelin, where 4 amino acids were replaced, also called CJC w/o DAC (half-life arround 30 min)
- CJC-1295 is also a modified sermorelin, but with an added "DAC" instead of replacing amino acids, also called CJC w/ DAC (half-life about a week)
Correct me if i'm wrong.
You are correct and I was mistaken in the video. Good catch!
Thank you so much for posting this video. I found it to be very helpful. Could you recommend a site for purchasing tb 4?
My pleasure.
We only recommend compounding pharmacies, and they can't get tb4 anymore because of the fda. Sorry
Hi Doc,
Excellent lecture!
I know, and I studied quite a lot about peptides, hormone optimization, PEDs, and overall fitness pharmacology. I've also been experimenting with most of those myself for longevity and anti-aging purposes. Furthermore, I'm self-taught. Could you please recommend me a career path that I could undertake with all this knowledge at my disposal? I truly know a lot, and most endocrinologists I confront myself with are always impressed however I'm not interested in a degree as MD, so I lately considered a B.Sc. (Hons) in Health Sciences. However, I'm not quite sure if it does even exist a Master's Degree in Peptides or in Hormone Optimization that I could undertake afterward with such a degree. Moreover, I study these for fun and because I'm actually very good at it, but this is not my main work field. I do also know quite a lot about nutrition, and training, but that's not a career I'd like to pursue. Please, any advice would be very much appreciated from an expert in this sector.
great question man. Currently, there aren't any formal university/college degrees in peptides. Have you considered looking into becoming a naturopathic doctor (the type of doctor I am)?
@I know a…. You might consider getting to know the studies about the eight essential glyconutrients that make our stem cells. There is no endo system without them, and you won’t get the true story from med school. They run the show from the bottom up pretty much. Without these eight saccharides at the very minimum, there is no making, repairing, regenerating or messaging of other parts of our biology physically. So there are many devotees going into the study of glyconutrition. In conventional medicine, immunologists are informed about them, but for lucrative business’s sake, they are taught to keep it mum that you get get your own stem cell treatments from your own kitchen. Beware of the wiles of the conventional thinking ones-the ones who will ONLY think the way they were orogrammed in med school where 70% of their med school curriculum is actually written by drug company employees who aren’t even doctors (that is actually a true fact). I’d save that for if you ever need a busted leg set. For “all things immunity and degenerative”, look to glyconutrition. Only ONE food group can make stem cells. Carbohydrates. Why do you think there is so much propaganda against them by the conventional medicine set? If we are missing even one essential glyconutrient, we are in trouble, and a lot of us are in trouble. When we add it back into the diet, we now have all eight glycos in order to make the stem cells we need and also in order for cell to cell communication that would be flawed if even one missing. MIT calls glyconutrients “the missing food group”. There are books about this, like “Sugars that Heal”, and “Glyconutrients”, and “Miracle Sugars”. I have used these for many years, but don’t expect to get answers from your conventional doctors about them-it was mostly kept from them during med school, other wise, they wouldn’t serve the drug companies. Take care of yourself so you can take care of others. There are powers that be who would attempt to stop you from learning about this. God bless you in your journey. (Copy’d b4 pst)
Hi Drew. I’ve been doing Prolotherapy since 1995, PRP, since 2007, and bone marrow & adipose stem cell treatments since 2008. But I’m brand new to peptides. This is an excellent lecture! Very clear and informative. However, this lecture was 3 years ago. Has your treatment algorithm changed since then regarding dosing / usage?
have u heard of prolozone - prolo with ozone result is suppose to be good and cheap compare to prp and stem cell
Would you need to take a GHRP with MK-677 (Ibutamoren)?
Anyone know the side effects to coming off BPC or TB4? Is there any backlash in the body?
Stupid question, what role does the lack of Bpc 157 play in respect to chronic inflammation?
Thanks for sharing.
Did you say that Sub-Q injections are pointless due to the peptide being absorbed by the bloodstream anyways?
They aren't 'pointless', but they don't provide an advantage over oral for most patients. Some patients still respond better to injectable, just not a large majority.
SubQ injections over the area of pain is pointless
Hey Doc, this is amazing, I've never even heard of this stuff for recovery?!?
I'm wondering if it would work in the case of recovering from Covid, I've been battling for 3 years with this nonsense.
Iam UC patient, sir how to take does for bpc 157.
Dr T, will any of these peptides help neuropathy?
Think I'll be trying some BPC-157 to counteract the nasty side effects from Accutane. I can't even run anymore because of accutane, nasty stuff.
Ugh that sucks, keep us posted!
Hello, this was a very helpful video and very thorough regarding peptides. I myself had an accident in gymnastics and I tore all of my ligaments in my left knee. I also tore my biceps muscle and have a small indent in my bone..so yea it was a pretty bad injury and being an athlete I searched for all the Best practices and medicines regarding post-op regeneration and rehabilitation and then I stumbeled on peptides. I am already interested into taking BPC and I will Use all the recommendation you have listed, But my only question is when to take it? Thank you for the great content and spreading the awareness of the great use of peptides
I'm terribly sorry to hear that. If peptides don't resolve your issues 100%, it may be worth looking into a consultation for regenerative injections. We dose oral BPC-157 once per day for most people, taken with food
Thank you very much for the answer. I am on my own with this one because in my country it not common to cooperate with doctors with regeneration methods. So thank you for this kind of content for those who don't have other means
My pleasure 🙌
Are they other impacts on the body later maybe even long-term when taking these peptides together?
any concerns for a type 1 diabetic? kidneys?
Which peptide would be best to repair nerve damage from brachial neuritis/parsonage turner syndrome?
Pretty sure there are numerous publications where they are trying to administer GHRH over prolonged periods (eg with an infusion pump), prior to the discovery of CJC-1295. In studies on CJC-1295 the authors often note that boosting the overall baseline is healthier and more physiologically relevant than giving these supraphysiological pulses with a bolus administration, and that bolus administration is the cause of the majority of GH related side effects. Do you have a scientific opinion on this? What you said about the benefit of bolus dosing around min 33-34 sounds very much like bro science and not what the literature says.
If you could share some references explicitly supporting short-acting bolus GHS dosing to achieve some type of benefit that is superior to longer term release, I would genuinely love to see them
Can you do bpc 157 if you take coumadin?
Does anyone know which peptides break down peyronie fiber
Have no pain, would like recommendations on Anti aging peptides
Thanks
Thanks for watching. Anti-aging peptides are not my primary area of specialty so I don't speak about them. Other youtube accounts might be better for you
Hey Drew! Loved this in depth lecture. Since the BPC 157 on infiniwell is currently sold out, would you recommend the rapid or delayed release to help aid elbow tendinitis & a wrist sprain? What pros/cons do each one have?
Thanks
And also if taking in the morning, would it be best to eat right after ingesting, or waiting for some time.
We only use the rapid, as that's what all the research has been done on.
If taking in the morning wait 30 mins before eating
So much great information. Thank you for helping the community 🤙 When you say that BPC is produced by our bodies naturally, does the amount of our natural BPC decrease as we age like hgh does and that's why we should supplement it? Or does it remain at more consistent levels throughout our lives?
My pleasure, thank you for those kind words. We unfortunately don't really know anything about the natural production over life as those studies haven't been done.
@@DrewTimmermansND Well somebody needs to get on it! 😂 Ok thanks 👍
Will Ghrp-6 Cuase cancer?
Pretty niche information. Thank you!!
I have slip disc diagnosed. Majority pain is in the lower back right side and slightly into hip. I test positive in straight leg raise test for the right leg.
I'm usually fine even while Deadlifting and squatting. It gets severely aggravated after playing soccer where I have to change directions quickly and sprint fast too. The pain the next morning is quite debilitating in the low back and bending at all.
I have started bpc157 recently as no doctor deals with such methodologies in India.
Does tb4 fit my use case more than bpc? Or any other things you would suggest to your patients?
Appreciate that. Unfortunately I can't give you specific recommendations as you have to be a patient for me to do so.
For the GHRP, did you mean to say 2 hours BEFORE NO FOOD, and 30 minutes AFTER NO FOOD? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
Amazing video. Would any of these be helpful for a person that deals with multiple issues related to old TBI injuries? Migraine, nausea, chronic fatigue, etc? Thanks again for the video. 🙏🏻 Watched this twice now, such valuable info.
BPC-157 can be helpful for chronic neurological conditions, but it's not something I personally do a lot of
@@DrewTimmermansND you don't do a lot of work with TBI or you don't use BPC-157? Please specify
I personally don't work with TBI patients, my wife (another ND in our practice) sees those patients. She uses BPC-157 for her patients with TBI
Hello Doc, thanks for the great lecture I’m just wondering when you said BPC in clinical practice worked better in combination with a stimulus. Would ART (active release technique) be a good stimulus? Or isolated exercises in the gym work? Can you also explain what ‘guasha’ is? the first stimulus you mentioned. Thanks again in advance.
Regards,
Jack
Guasha is Chinese medicine scraping. ART and exercise can be a stimulus yes. That may or may not be strong enough for an individual.
You should only ask questions you can't find answers for before asking foolish questions is an insult & waste of time to a doctor of his caliber
So I have seen many recommendations for Tailor Made Health by reputable people, like you, but I found a complaint filed against them by the FDA in 2020 for, among other things, unsanitary conditions. I am just wondering if you have some insight that leads you to this recommendation because I don't know who to trust for purchasing BPC-157.
Are any of these effective for treating post viral fatigue? Or long Covid?
👏👏🙏💝💐🌈Thank you
my pleasure!
Could this help RA?
Hi ! Thanks for the informations !
Do you know a way for people outside USA to get good bpc 157 quality ?
My pleasure! If you're in Canada you can work with docs to get it from a compounding pharmacy as well. Outside that, I'm sorry I don't.
Hi Dr Timmermans, I have just had a chat to Infiniwell as I saw you posted their link in another comment. Sadly they don’t ship to Aus. I was wondering if you knew a reliable company that ships to Australia for BPC-157 capsules?
Hey man, unfortunately I don't have any trusted suppliers to AUS
@@DrewTimmermansND NO dramas mate, thanks for the response!
What was your user name on that underground peptide board?
"I'll tell you this: everybody has something they'll respond to better. Some people do respond better to oral... I trust the patient's intution. If the patient comes and says, 'You know what, I think I'm going to have a better response with oral'... then I say, 'Alright, we're doing oral.' If they don't... I tell them to do oral, because then you don't have to worry about syringes and needles and it's just a nice easy... oral." -- Drew Timmermans ND
I don't know if I've ever been quoted before! 🤣🤣 I love it 🙌
@@DrewTimmermansND There's much wisdom in that quote. I suggest you make a picture with that quote written in a cool font (I suggest the Led Zeppelin font) next to a photo of you in a majestic pose and that you post it often on social media. As your pro bono attorney I guarantee you this will be good for your career.
P.S. It'll also be a good career move for you to pin these comments to the top.
Isn't that just letting the patient choose their own placebo effect?
Sometimes, yes of course. I've still seen enough times where patients were indifferent and one form did better than the other, so i don't believe it's all the time.
I'm happy if they get a bigger effect because part of it is placebo. They get more healing and I am okay with that 😉
🤣🤣🤣 that's a good idea.
I also always forget about pinning comments to the top! I definitely need to do that more
Hello, is there a Peptide that would help a person with deep depression? If not cure it at least help a bit? Thanks.
Great presentation! Are these slides available anywhere to be used as a reference ?
Appreciate that. Unfortunately not at this time to the public.
@@DrewTimmermansND Thanks again! Have a small practice in MA interested in using peptides in select patients but the resources for providers are all over the map .
Yea unfortunately there isn't great resources out there as the field is new and emerging. AMMG has some good information out there, might be worth checking them out
Shoot me your email and the name of your medical practice (you can DM me on Instagram if you want that to be private) and I'll email you a copy of the slides.
How can you be sure of long term safety of these peptides as you mentioned there have been 0 human trials
39:36 I thought there is no such thing as an anabolic window?
can you take bpc with breast cancer?
Have you done any research on the so-called host defence peptides (HDPs; also called cationic antimicrobial peptides)..?
Only antimicrobial peptide I've used is LL37, but we haven't been able to get it for a while now
@@DrewTimmermansND bummer! It’s a very interesting time for peptides therapy. I hope you heal the world my friend.
Trying! One person at a time
I degloved my ring finger about a week ago in the gym , crushed it in between two dumbbells, i started BPC 157 and TB 500 two days ago and i hope to god it works and speeds up the recovery , nail was ripped off and fingertip broken too , end was degloved so i am hoping for new cellular growth for my fingertip please help 😢
damn! I hope you have a speedy recovery
Dr. Timmermans, thank you for this extremely educational lecture. I recently had a traumatic injury resulting in a complete tear of my acl ligament. I plan on using peptide therapy for my recovery post procedure. I plan to use bpc-157, thymosin b4, and mk677 in combination to assist in my recovery. Does this sound right to you? Is it true that thymosin b4 frag cannot be administered via a capsule due to its instability in gastric juices?
That sounds like a really good stack. Other things we would consider: GHK-Cu, Vitamin C, collagen peptides, StemRegen.
How are you doing post surgery?
Hi Doc,
I have intermittent hydrathrosis (my knees swell one week out of 2 without any damage on MRI) I have a CRP about 12.
What would you recommend me to try ?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us, it s so interesting
I'm sorry but I can't provide specific recommendations for you to try unless you become a patient of mine. If you'd like to look into this further, you can find more information here regenerativeperformance.com/contact. Our goal is to get to the root cause of why you are having these symptoms so that we can provide personalized treatment recommendations for you, which address the root cause.
Can you say something about the dosages? TB500/BPC 157 + İpamorelin/CJC1295 No Dac? Thanks a lot.
Great video, thanks for the amazing content. Does Mod GRF 1-29 combined with Ipamorelin lead to typical side effects from elevated GH levels? Let´s say for the dosing of Super Saiyan Effects. I can´t find anything about that issue and am wondering why they warn about so much side effects for HGH injection (in short: growth of everything) but for the peptide use this does not occur? Thanks a lot!
It's extremely rare to see those side effects that are commonly attributed to exogenous GH, but they can happen.
@@DrewTimmermansND Thank you for that quick answer, that is very much appreciated.
Hey Dr Timmermans, what do you say to those "studies" that say that there is a risk of cancer associated with peptides to the angiogenesis? Id love to try tb4 to help a small ligament tear i have in my shoulder. And for ligaments and tendonitis would you recommand tb4 or bcp 157? Thanks!
Exercise increases angiogenesis, but it doesn't cause cancer. I haven't seen any studies showing increased cancer risk.
@@DrewTimmermansND thanks for your answer. For small ligament tear would you recommand tb4 or bcp157?
Usually BPC-157, unless there is a lot of fibrotic tissue, in which case tb4 tends to work a little better
I have found peptides here in Canada
Is petidescanadadirect safe to order from.They offer negligible customer replies. THANKS a fellow canadian.
I have some especially problematic muscle injuries. It's hard for me to imagine peptides just in the blood (oral or sub q) would help with an acute injury - that the peptides somehow would migrate to the injury site/s. But is there a safe way to inject directly into a muscle? Won't the needle further damage the muscle?
Our tissues send out chemicals that attract things in the blood (and even from other tissues) to an area of need. This is taught in all medical schools across the country as it's been proven in research studies over and over again.
Oral or subQ will get to the area. Can't guarantee it will help you as it doesn't help everyone though.
Hey doc Ive got some tmj pain, i plan on using tb500 per dr recommendation to try and treat it for now. Have you personally heard of anyone doing this?
Hi Dr Timmermans. Regarding the GH Secretagogues timing, I believe what you really meant was 30 minutes before food or 2 hours after food, right? Great content! thanks!
Timing is going to depend on what effects you want to have, but yes we always want to have it on an empty stomach. 30 mins before food and 2 hours after food is appropriate timing.
Did I misspeak?
@@DrewTimmermansND I believe so, but being a non native english speaker I could have misinterpreted. Crystal clear Now! Thanks again!
My pleasure!
Do you believe BPC-157 should be accompanied by anything, like TB-500 or TB4 Fragment? About the capsule form of combo BPC-157 & Thymosin B4 Fragment; is the fragment part (Ac-SDKP) of no use because it's capsule form? Do you have any opinion on infiniWell as a source?
Hi doc! For the purely fat burning, recomposition effects of the secretagogues, is it the same cost as the bodybuilding doses of 2000 per month? I’m a asking because I am a lean fit male who just wants to get a slight help along with my diet and exercise for some fat that still remains. I have asked around a clinic near me and they want $1000 every 3 months supply which still seems really high for ipamoralin and another compound along with doctors fees (of course). Do you think this is high also? Thanks!!
$1000 for 3 months is on par with most places