A four-part in-depth look at the Mega Drive Twin Pad Player by AtGames. This part looks at the compatibility with Mega Drive cartridges, starting with the Sonic the Hedgehog series.
Fun fact: Despite the audio of the versions of the Sega games being the same, in the American AtGames version it will be reproduced with a slightly different audio but at the same pace as the original. Instead in the PAL version,Although the audio of the games has the same speed as the American and Japanese versions, in the European version of the AtGames version the audio will be played at a different speed, i.e. x0.75
The borked Sonic & Knuckles intro theme on this is priceless. So is the S2 special stage theme. And the SEEEGAAA chant. And the ring chime. And the Sonic 3D intro.
Sonic the hedgehog (Mega Drive) Sonic the hedgehog (JP) Sonic the hedgehog 2 (JP) Sonic the hedgehog 2 (Mega Drive) Sonic the hedgehog 2 (Genesis) Sonic the hedgehog 3 (Mega Drive) Sonic & Knuckles Knuckles in Sonic the hedgehog 2 (Genesis) Sonic & Knuckles: Blue Spheres (Mega Drive) Sonic the hedgehog Spinball (Mega Drive) Sonic 3D: Flickies Island (Mega Drive)
Though Lethal Enforcers I and II (Gun Fighters) aren't included, the presence of Mega Drive controller ports for 1P and 2P, composite video output and Mega Drive cartridge slots can make Lethal Enforcers I and II (Gun Fighters) playable. I haven't seen anyone online do that.
I have the 2017 model of this,which it's ok,they fixed the sprite issues on sonic 2 and 3,not sure about the other games that had sprite issues though,the sound still seems to be the same,though,i just got a model 2 genesis,this inspired me to get one,i have a few games on the way
The reason why the music was so damn fast is because you had the thing set to NTSC when playing the PAL cartridges. For correct game speed you have to play PAL cartridges on PAL setting and NTSC Genesis and Japanese cartridges on NTSC setting. Thats also why the sprites were glitchy. Not supposed to mix vice/versa with each other. As for the shitty sound, the cheap console is to blame for that. Nice review though.
@Gameg234 I don't know what you're talking about- but I was talking about how the higher* notes are completely neglected on this console (as opposed to the sound on a Sega console)
It is because some cartridges don't work on the atgames genesis/mega drive because it was intended just for the Sega version it even warns some cartridges don't work because what they were intended for.
The AtGames Mega Drive Twin Pad Player made the following errors: Sonic 1 (NTSC-J) cartridge signals the NTSC-U version (REV01). Sonic 2 (NTSC-U) cartridge signals the PAL version. Sonic & Knuckles (PAL) cartridge signals the Asian (PAL) version. Knuckles in Sonic 2 (PAL) signals the Asian (PAL) version.
Yeah I spent way too much time trying to figure out why Sonic 3 and Knuckles wouldn't work on this console. Sonic 2 with Sonic and Knuckles no problem but not Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
EDIT: 2 To Make Sonic 3 And Knuckles Work. You Need To Do Cartridge Tilting Just Pull Out Sonic 3 When It’s On Top Of Sonic And Knuckles When The Console Is On And When You See A Light Blue Sega Logo Or White Borders That Is A Sign You Got Sonic 3 And Knuckles To Work.
The speeds are slower on model models what I found out so I say get the portable one with the SD Card reader because you can fix the audio with a simple loader
mine dont glitch so mutch,but it is the h&b 2011 revision,without switch behind (autodetected) and wireless controlers (they suck) sound still suck but everything else is more compatible
I bought this console's Street of Rage edition version and Sonic 1 because I those were really cheap. It was really funny to play the 'drunk' version of Sonic. :D
Thats Funny because i have the british version by blaze and sonic 2 and 3 work perfectly in mine but mine dosnt have colums 3,sonic spinball,shinobi 3, and most of the others built in them mine has sonic and knuckles arrow flash eswat altered beast and a few more
@SweMonkey - It's still got it, just wrapped up in a horrible software emulator built into a Titan ARM core. Seriously, what good is the "Blast Processing" if the rest of the hardware(or in this case, software, since this runs on a crappy emulator rather than proper MegaDrive hardware) is shit?
I have the Streets of Rage edition of this console and the music is terrible with it. But it is fun to play 'drunk' version of the Mega Drive Sonic. :)
That's some Class A Bullshit going on right there. Thank you for just showing us the sound and raw gameplay and NOT spending the entire review saying crap we already know. This was informative!
It flat out doesn’t work Neither does virtua racing. I believe the problem has to do with poor emulation. Since both sonic 3&k and vr use special chips the console can’t use it. Although that still begs the question of how sonic 2 works
@@andrewcozmopete9578 ok here’s the thing Sonic and knuckles has two rom chips in it, one chip is sonic&knuckles, and the other is a patch for sonic 2. With sonic 2 it applys the patch, and then plays the data off the sonic 2 cartridge. With sonic 3&knuckles I believe it combines the data, like it reads the header, realizes “hey! This is sonic 3” and plays sonic 3&knuckles with the combined data. However, sonic3&k cannot combine data with cartridges over 20mb in size. So what I think is happening is, the at games menu, is a genesis rom, so when you insert sonic3&knuckles, the menu pushes the file limit over that 20mb limit. But only with s3&k, which is why the sonic 1 cart also still works. That’s my theory anyways Now virtua racing I have no clue
Maybe Sonic 3 Is Not Working For Sonic And Knuckles Because Some CZcamsr Says Sometimes It Will Say Sonic 3 And Knuckles And Sometimes Sonic And Knuckles
that's not an emulator. i believe that's the name of the software used to compile the roms together. the atgames hardware seems to be run by a bootleg genesis on a chip
Fun fact: Despite the audio of the versions of the Sega games being the same, in the American AtGames version it will be reproduced with a slightly different audio but at the same pace as the original. Instead in the PAL version,Although the audio of the games has the same speed as the American and Japanese versions, in the European version of the AtGames version the audio will be played at a different speed, i.e. x0.75
SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive real: We make good game ports.
Sonic Genesis GBA: Mitch Please.
ATGames Sonic 1-3&K: Mitches please.
👌🏻% accurate
8:02 ATGames hates Jon Burton
VERY disappointing. Did they even test that thing?
I'd rather just play Sonic Mega collection on PS2
Or ANY other port lol
Same here
That Thing is a Piece of SHIT!
I'm Never Buying That Ever Again.
Listen to that Sound Chip!!
Who else plays sonic jam
Or sonic jam on sega Saturn or sega genesis classics 4 ps4, nintendo switch and Xbox 1.
5:40 it should have a troll face appearing in to make it more funnier
The borked Sonic & Knuckles intro theme on this is priceless. So is the S2 special stage theme. And the SEEEGAAA chant. And the ring chime. And the Sonic 3D intro.
So is the music to comix zone and streets of rage
Sonic the hedgehog (Mega Drive)
Sonic the hedgehog (JP)
Sonic the hedgehog 2 (JP)
Sonic the hedgehog 2 (Mega Drive)
Sonic the hedgehog 2 (Genesis)
Sonic the hedgehog 3 (Mega Drive)
Sonic & Knuckles
Knuckles in Sonic the hedgehog 2 (Genesis)
Sonic & Knuckles: Blue Spheres (Mega Drive)
Sonic the hedgehog Spinball (Mega Drive)
Sonic 3D: Flickies Island (Mega Drive)
The music also sounds fast in sonic 3
4:03
Put on 0.75 for Sonic and Knuckles
Knuckles in Sonic 2 works but not Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Though Lethal Enforcers I and II (Gun Fighters) aren't included, the presence of Mega Drive controller ports for 1P and 2P, composite video output and Mega Drive cartridge slots can make Lethal Enforcers I and II (Gun Fighters) playable. I haven't seen anyone online do that.
I have the 2017 model of this,which it's ok,they fixed the sprite issues on sonic 2 and 3,not sure about the other games that had sprite issues though,the sound still seems to be the same,though,i just got a model 2 genesis,this inspired me to get one,i have a few games on the way
Sonic 3 and Knuckles DOES work just requires alot of blowing in and out of the cartridges and tilting them.
It worked for me too, but my console then broke after a few mins of play. I NEVER found out why.
That's very risky because they are rare games or I could properly use Sonic 3 Complete
THE MUSIC SOUNDS LIKE HELL
The reason why the music was so damn fast is because you had the thing set to NTSC when playing the PAL cartridges. For correct game speed you have to play PAL cartridges on PAL setting and NTSC Genesis and Japanese cartridges on NTSC setting. Thats also why the sprites were glitchy. Not supposed to mix vice/versa with each other.
As for the shitty sound, the cheap console is to blame for that.
Nice review though.
EDIT: 4 When I Say Without The Lock On Technology
I mean Buy Sonic 3 and Knuckles Physically.
Sonic three and knuckles worked on my atgames sega mega drive once and only once
I kinda like the fast sounding, messed-up sound of the intro of when you try to run the PAL versions of some of the games.
I actually have a lot of nostalgia for at games
But it’s not good nostalgia, it’s that embarrassing nostalgia
When you blow in the cartridge your screwing it up.
The sound chips on the Atgames sounds kinda creepy
I found out from videos later models fixed sonic 3 but idk if its the pal version or the USA Version
@Gameg234 I don't know what you're talking about- but I was talking about how the higher* notes are completely neglected on this console (as opposed to the sound on a Sega console)
yarg! that sound is sooooooo OFF- btw your recording device on this improved much!
He needs to putting in the USA ' ' Sonic 3 ' ' to get Sonic 3 And Knuckles
i love this game
The sound may be off, but its a start for new classic gamers.
OH GOD MY EARS
It kinda sounds like the cut vaperwave mode from sonic mania plus but without the slowdown
if you want it slowed down, get a PAL model. It slows everything down like Sonic 1 50Hz
Are Mega Drive games compatible with a Genesis?
i mean
i assume they're the same console just with a different name
@koseki_stuff You can play some Mega Drive titles on the American Genesis, as long as the game isn't region locked.
Why the heck can't Sonic 3 and Knuckles work on the Sega Genesis Flashback Console? WHY?
Kahrah Noel it can you just have to wiggle it a little
Don’t see why you would want to anyway
Luckily for me there’s no issues with all the sonic game I have except for sonic 3 and knuckles. It would just go to sonic and knuckles
EDIT: You Need To Do Cartridge Tilting
I have one of them. They aren't as bad as they seem. They run with no lag at all.
Does it still hold up
@Geek306 Surprisingly, yes it does.
Well Sonic & Knuckles cartrigde isn´t reading very well Sonic 3 cartridge and maybe the lock in part of Sonic & Knuckles is destroid with the time!
It works perfectly fine on my original Mega Drive
Emperix Or maybe it´s of the AtGames Mega Drive, i have one but i only have SOnic & Knuckles cartridge and it works perfectly, like yours!
It is because some cartridges don't work on the atgames genesis/mega drive because it was intended just for the Sega version it even warns some cartridges don't work because what they were intended for.
The AtGames Mega Drive Twin Pad Player made the following errors:
Sonic 1 (NTSC-J) cartridge signals the NTSC-U version (REV01).
Sonic 2 (NTSC-U) cartridge signals the PAL version.
Sonic & Knuckles (PAL) cartridge signals the Asian (PAL) version.
Knuckles in Sonic 2 (PAL) signals the Asian (PAL) version.
in sonic 3d blast. they just scream. SEGA
I got sonic 3 and knukles once
how'd they fucK up the cart sound too?
Having beaten 3d blast makes listen to this very unsettling
S3&K needs cartridge tilting to work
I guess they are bad atgames
Haha help me
Yeah I spent way too much time trying to figure out why Sonic 3 and Knuckles wouldn't work on this console. Sonic 2 with Sonic and Knuckles no problem but not Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
I just gave up in the end. It didn't matter what combination of S3&K you used, it only ever loaded S&K.
@@Emperix it just needs an lot of blowing and cartridge tilting but it might break the console
nice video. I'll be sure to check out more.
Thanks :)
EDIT: 2 To Make Sonic 3 And Knuckles Work. You Need To Do Cartridge Tilting Just Pull Out Sonic 3 When It’s On Top Of Sonic And Knuckles When The Console Is On And When You See A Light Blue Sega Logo Or White Borders That Is A Sign You Got Sonic 3 And Knuckles To Work.
Ahh vintage emps vids :)
You've gone back quite far, Dave, lol.
The speeds are slower on model models what I found out so I say get the portable one with the SD Card reader because you can fix the audio with a simple loader
mine dont glitch so mutch,but it is the h&b 2011 revision,without switch behind (autodetected)
and wireless controlers (they suck)
sound still suck but everything else is more compatible
En el minuto 2:14 greg fitzsimmons se esta riéndose por ver esa chigadera
3:40 Oh, that is unfortunate...
the sonic2 music looks cool
Are there any sound fixes for this?
Yeah; you just need to buy a real Mega Drive ;)
+Emperix oh man, I've got several already. :) a buddy bought me this one and to honor him I didn't want to just let it sit
There's a sound fix now but it only works with models with an SD card slot.
I bought this console's Street of Rage edition version and Sonic 1 because I those were really cheap. It was really funny to play the 'drunk' version of Sonic. :D
Thats Funny because i have the british version by blaze and sonic 2 and 3 work perfectly in mine but mine dosnt have colums 3,sonic spinball,shinobi 3, and most of the others built in them mine has sonic and knuckles arrow flash eswat altered beast and a few more
@SweMonkey - It's still got it, just wrapped up in a horrible software emulator built into a Titan ARM core. Seriously, what good is the "Blast Processing" if the rest of the hardware(or in this case, software, since this runs on a crappy emulator rather than proper MegaDrive hardware) is shit?
Maybe it was faster because it was run on 60 Hz so when adding the game it run at 70 Hz
7:36 why does the sonic 3d intro sound kinda good like this?
EDIT 3: If Sonic 3 And Knuckles Doesn’t Work Still. Buy A Cartridge Of It Without The Lock On Technology
3:27 Will the Japanese version be the same?
is compatible with eternal champions?
Yes
I have the Streets of Rage edition of this console and the music is terrible with it. But it is fun to play 'drunk' version of the Mega Drive Sonic. :)
That's some Class A Bullshit going on right there.
Thank you for just showing us the sound and raw gameplay and NOT spending the entire review saying crap we already know. This was informative!
I had that same problem with the sonic three and knuckles
It flat out doesn’t work
Neither does virtua racing.
I believe the problem has to do with poor emulation. Since both sonic 3&k and vr use special chips the console can’t use it.
Although that still begs the question of how sonic 2 works
@@littlemacisunderrated412 I always been wondering the same thing how the heck can sonic 2 work but sonic 3 can’t
@@andrewcozmopete9578 ok here’s the thing
Sonic and knuckles has two rom chips in it, one chip is sonic&knuckles, and the other is a patch for sonic 2. With sonic 2 it applys the patch, and then plays the data off the sonic 2 cartridge. With sonic 3&knuckles I believe it combines the data, like it reads the header, realizes “hey! This is sonic 3” and plays sonic 3&knuckles with the combined data. However, sonic3&k cannot combine data with cartridges over 20mb in size. So what I think is happening is, the at games menu, is a genesis rom, so when you insert sonic3&knuckles, the menu pushes the file limit over that 20mb limit. But only with s3&k, which is why the sonic 1 cart also still works.
That’s my theory anyways
Now virtua racing I have no clue
@@littlemacisunderrated412 oh
Can it work with a mega cd?
No
Maybe Sonic 3 Is Not Working For Sonic And Knuckles Because Some CZcamsr Says Sometimes It Will Say Sonic 3 And Knuckles And Sometimes Sonic And Knuckles
I don't have the same problem with Sonic 2.
WAIT 2009!?
You sound surprised
@@Emperix yes I am
Why Sonic 3 or Sonic 3 And Knuckles Doesn't Work?
Vicente Masotti YT it's in NTSC Version
That's why is does not work
*Fake clone machine!* 👎 is why.
why sonic 3 wout lock on sonic and knuckels i have a sega genesis model 2 on my genesis i put sonic 3 on sonic and knuckels it woks
Are you from the UK?
I am.
@Entertainment By SlideXSwitch Yeah
Will I guest i can't play sonic 3 on mine
5:40
the pal/us versions of sonic 2
I am Roman Ruiz and I own sonic 3&2.
1:26 favorite of my kids
It's a bad start they will think games actually sounded this bloody horrible. Besides real Sega Genesis consoles are much cheaper.
The reason its probably not working is because ur putting the pal sonic cartriges on the American version of sonic and knuckles cartridge
Nope. They work just fine with each other.
Sonic & Knuckles Cart is region free BTW.
Sounds Like The Sega Genesis Portable
Sonic the hedgehog 3 is supposed to be on the bottom ok
The games sound like they need Prozac
The problems are from a bad emulator called firecore
that's not an emulator. i believe that's the name of the software used to compile the roms together. the atgames hardware seems to be run by a bootleg genesis on a chip
It is in low tape
yep that's because the console got old and rusty so its low pitch
I wish i had sonic 3 i have the sega genesis made by atgames anyone reply saying if it works or not
And i mean the sega genesis cartridge not the mega drive
Or a.k.a sega genesis
Between this and Sonic Genesis GBA...........
I’d rather take this
dude what u need to do is to like do it on the new sega genesis flashback
U mean mega drive
I think your mega drive is weird because mine works fine . no sprites are bad with mine
In my Mega Drive's "defence", it was one of the first versions, so no doubt there were still a lot of kinks to work out.
Ok
Also is it OK if I make a video like this and to say to go to your channel to subscribe
You can,t have a real sega mega drive without sonic 3 and knuckles better of with sega mega drive 2 with better av ports than atgames trash
Ghastly
2009? Jesus Christ how long has Atgames been making these shitty consoles?
OH NO 7:21 DAT FACE
It only looks like that in the European version (pal)
hmm sounds a little bit strange
thats because the console got rusty and old so the sound got screwed up Although everything is normal except sonic 3
uuuu is the? can bee ¿is the sega genesis new genration?
Yesbody reads these anymore.
I guess?
Emperix
This MD Machine Does not like Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
*Pictures fantastic but the sound is Awful what kind of crap is this machine?!?* 👎. 👎 👎
Yes and now does Not Matter😡.
+
Couldn't agree more, lol
Vv
En el minuto 8:04 dice que diablos paso