the whole self-ish album is all the songs riffing on each other. each one shares something with another or even several. it truly is a very interconnected album
They connected the continuous songs in the live album, even the transitions sounding so good, these interconnections are even better, and I think that, not necessarily in the published songs, but all songs reutilize some lyrics like the guy below this comment said (tobster_spl), that's just common, but it's pretty cool to see how they evolve. i never heard the old version of Laplace's angel until I did, check it out if you havent and have a great day or night
I love the fact that Will Wood has explicitly confirmed that part of the reason there’s so much leitmotif and reference in that album is because he was rushed making it.
white knuckle jerk and misanthrapologist also share a line, “Only the second worst thing that I could’ve thought is that “This won’t have to end if it doesn’t start!”” And “Beat by beat and heart by heart, “This won’t have to end if it doesn’t start!””
SOMEONE ELSE FINALLY SAYS IT (I used to listen to the album on the way car ride home from school and I was genuinely surprised when I still heard the blinker the first time I listened to it outside of the car lmao.)
It is one of the few things that is actually true from the earlier parts of his career, he really grew into a new person during Self-Ish and The Normal Album. (If you're curious on why, easiest answer is that he was making some wacky potions back in the day, if you catch my drift)
There's a small chunk of piano from the Love Me Normally segment of Suburbia Overture in Willard! "Lot he has his lot in life, Job his job and I guess you too will die" "My friend you've got a friend in me, let's go and make more enemies"
In Against the Kitchen Floor there's a moment after the first chorus that always reminds me of the beginning of I/Me/Myself with how it does the kinda doo-wop but with a small trumpet section instead Also, that Skeleton Appreciation Day / Chemical Overreaction bit is done really well when listening to the live versions off of The Real Will Wood, especially with how they transition into eachother
Might be a stretch, but 2012's "Mahaprajnaparamita" kinda sounds like the pre-choruses of Cotard's Solution (the "Rolling my third eye into the back" parts)
The arpeggio in the middle of The Song With Five Names (right before the Hebrew) is the exact same as the one at the beginning of 2econd 2ight 2eer and is similar to the "everybody's all up in my business" part in Suburbia... and i swear I've heard it in more songs
Will seems to like doing a lot of chord buildups in his music which is something I've noticed! Its also in the instrumental of Cotard's Solution, Dr.Sunshine is Dead(the "Till my fears come to fruition I’m not scared" lyric), and also the backing vocals during Red Moon. There's absolutey more than just that, but those are a few that I can remember off the top of my head without going through his entire discography lmao. I've listened to so much of his music and I absolutely love finding and identifying patterns in music. :D
Also there's the little kazoo part that plays during: -6up 5oh when he's saying those random words during the instrumental, the "da da da da da daa oh wooh wooh" thing -Dr Sunshine is dead during the start, it's the same rythm but in a bass not a kazoo, and then with a kazoo when he says "If we could see each other then there's no more use for hiding..." -Laplace's angel when he says "It doesn't take a killer to murder, it only takes a reason to kill"
Btw Suburbia Overture has more motifs. The very start has the I/me/myself "do-wop ba do-wop ba". In the "Home is where the heart is you ain't homeless but you're heartless" part the cord progression is the same as in "memento mori" and "Well, better than the alternative...". Lastly, i remember something involving Marsha at the very start of Merybell, but i'm not sure. And "Suburbia" is mentioned in the unreleased song "I will never amount to anything".
In the desc he says that its not a leitmotif but just a similar chromatic walkdown, honestly Id disagree though, it seems out of place in vampire reference (not in a bad way) and its used a lot in 6up 5oh, plus the same album has callbacks to older albums so I don't see why this wouldn't be one.
Im pretty sure suburbia has references to all the other songs on tna, which is probably fairly known but its honestly so cool and makes it the perfect 'overture' and the first song on the record
Some fun facts from someone who has been tracking down and keeping a personal archive of a lot of Will's music. The main melody of "The Main Character" is in a lot of Will's live only songs/early versions of songs that were only on pateron! Also the "the future must know where you've been..." lyric and many other melodies and lyrics from self-ish are lifted from older songs that were released(as you might have suspected) under the william sunshine name. If I remember I might come update this comment to be better when its not 11:50.
That's what I was gonna say, my favorite examples being "American depression" having lyrics and music that went into marsha and laplaces angels, and half decade hangover using a riff from man I love being drunk
That's what I was gonna say, my favorite examples being "American depression" having lyrics and music that went into marsha and laplaces angels, and half decade hangover using a riff from man I love being drunk
yes!! “I’ll never amount to anything” has a piano solo that went into the main character, and there’s a cover of puttin’ on the ritz that will did that I’m pretty sure has parts of 6up 5oh in its instrumental
i feel like this is intentional tbh like hell, SELFiSH and The Normal Album have this in SPADES, it ltierally connects the whole album together, it makes sense In Case i Make It and In Case i Die also share motifs, they sort orlf ar elike... retrospectives? of eberything so far in a way
idk if anyone has pointed this out already but from the normal album documentary: the background during the talking part of blackboxwarrior is a distorted audio of will whistling the melody to vampire culture! two cross references to the same two songs
Another one I found is the melody after the final chorus of Vampire Culture sounds like the melody after the opening of Outliars and Hyppocrates It's amazing how many songs from TNA that Suburbia Overture references Also, there’s this one small chord pattern that plays in Marsha, Thankk You’s solo that weirdly resembles a part of I / Me / Myself’s solo
I'm not sure anybody else has pointed this one out but in memento mori, the part that says "well one day you'll be not even a faint memory" until "Your legacy's not yours to see nor is your eulogy and you'll never know what it all means" you can literally perfectly sing front street's chorus
I think the end of Cicada Days matches the beginning of Falling Up (And I think think Rumba of Death has a saxophone part that's the same as Laplace's Angel) sory leitmotifs are so cool
In my opinion, "hold my hands, we'll dance on the 12-step on my grave" (vampire reference) sounds a lot like it but oH wElL i gUeSs nOt (that's meant to be passive aggressive in a joking way) also will wood has at least two maybe three vampire songs? hello? oh and the reason I love the SELF-iSH album so much is because there are callbacks everywhere to different songs and its just...woah
I love this kind of stuff in songs, for example in Hamilton or Crazy Ex-Girlfriend or in Will Wood songs and I JUST FOUND IT ACTUALLY HAS A NAME THAT'S SO COOL, I was calling it something like lyrics/melody recycling ahah
I played a bunch of songs from in case I make it on my guitar cause I was bored today, right after the other, and holy shit they are SO similar. theres a BUNCH of this: emmaj7 to em7 to em6, and a BUNCH of: g to gmaj7 to g7
This is very off topic but I want someone to make a mashup of Lysergide Daydream and Memento Mori... they could go so well together and sometimes I sing the verses of one song while singing the other on accident lol.
They're also coincidencentally the two I'm learning on ukulele They share a decent amount of chords Lysergide daydream goes F Dm Am Dm Am Bb C And memento mori goes something vaguely like F A Dm Bb C D7 (I have definitely not perfectly memorized this one yet)
@@via3600 Interesting! I'm learning Better than the Alternative on guitar and chords are similar, simple F Dm Bb C loop although I haven't gotten past that. Would LOVE to learn ukulele tho.
@gripen777 I love playing ukulele Both me and my ukulele are out of tune but it's okay we have fun haha I chose it over the guitar for 2 reasons 1) I've found its very important for the instruments I use to have a Silliness factor 2) the nylon strings are easier on the fingers and there's less stretching involved I'm just here to have fun and I'm not prepared for the commitment of causing my fingers pain until they don't feel anymore so I can play my instrument lol Lots of fun though, recommend
@gripen777 also I found ukulele chords all (or almost all, idk) will wood songs so that's pretty cool 👀 He's also a big fan of E though which I can NOT play yet unfortunately
@@via3600 Ukulele sounds so fun!!! I have trouble with my wrists when I play guitar, although that might be down to how I'm holding it and also might be something I can practice out; I would much prefer a smaller instrument that I can just have fun on and jam with though. I think I saw one at Music&Arts for $100, might go get one 👍
In Outliers and hippocrates Will makes a reference in the verse "Too weird to love, too scared to die, too alien to take you home" to a song by A Verbal Equinox (a band he was in before he created Will Wood and the Tapeworms) called "He'll use me for his needle show" with the verse "I'm far too wierd to life, but ain't too rare to die, take a good hard look, you can see it in my bloodshot eyes" Curiously, Dr. Sunshine himself sings this song
Well that explains why I liked Welcome to CH&T, I loved the opening to Mr. Fregoli's and didn't even realize he just, yoinked it as Mr. Rat Wood himself does
I'm so glad i found this video! just yesterday i was talking about these with my friend bc i find the musical similarities in songs really interesting and i noticed how much Will Wood does it. thank you so much for compiling all of these together!!!!!!
@@TraumatizedDumpster no, it’s not. leitmotif is a recurring melody or musical phrase that’s associated w/ a specific person, place, idea, etc (the person who made the video is using the term wrong)
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The “this is not enough” in Mr Capgras will always hit so hard ngl
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the whole self-ish album is all the songs riffing on each other. each one shares something with another or even several. it truly is a very interconnected album
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They connected the continuous songs in the live album, even the transitions sounding so good, these interconnections are even better, and I think that, not necessarily in the published songs, but all songs reutilize some lyrics like the guy below this comment said (tobster_spl), that's just common, but it's pretty cool to see how they evolve.
i never heard the old version of Laplace's angel until I did, check it out if you havent and have a great day or night
you could say... the songs are self-ish....
thats why i love it so muuuch ❤❤❤
I love the fact that Will Wood has explicitly confirmed that part of the reason there’s so much leitmotif and reference in that album is because he was rushed making it.
I FUCKING LOVE LEITMOTIFS!!!!!!!
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2:24 "tonight~ ... CR-"
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will wood gets dragged around a corner by a giant tentacle beast and the rest of the party goes deeper into the dungeon looking for him asmr
white knuckle jerk and misanthrapologist also share a line, “Only the second worst thing that I could’ve thought is that “This won’t have to end if it doesn’t start!”” And “Beat by beat and heart by heart, “This won’t have to end if it doesn’t start!””
Yep!
That fucking car blinker noise in Mr. Capgras 🕺
SOMEONE ELSE FINALLY SAYS IT (I used to listen to the album on the way car ride home from school and I was genuinely surprised when I still heard the blinker the first time I listened to it outside of the car lmao.)
that's a gutiar
@@LizordSword nuh uh
I always thought it was supposed to be a weird sounding metronome
@@FilmmakingFemboy yuh uh? it's a palm muted gutiar, you can hear the pick noise too
I noticed will using "hand me my shovel im going in" and referencing how he doesn't remember 2012 alot and i just needed conformation
It is one of the few things that is actually true from the earlier parts of his career, he really grew into a new person during Self-Ish and The Normal Album. (If you're curious on why, easiest answer is that he was making some wacky potions back in the day, if you catch my drift)
he would excel at writing musicals!!
toby fox has a contender for the title of mister leitmotif
There's a small chunk of piano from the Love Me Normally segment of Suburbia Overture in Willard!
"Lot he has his lot in life, Job his job and I guess you too will die"
"My friend you've got a friend in me, let's go and make more enemies"
It makes sense in suburbia overture that there would be a lot of leitmotifs since it's an overture.
the song that shares this wasn't released when overture was@@kelvinguitar545
As well as mentions to OKULTRA and the line “everybody’s all up in my business” (I can’t remember what song that’s from though) :(
@@carter57_ it's from well better than the alternative
Thanks for pointing this out! I noticed it the first time I listened to Willard, and I thought it was really cool
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YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE BABEH
THIS IS NOT ENOUGH
YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE
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In Against the Kitchen Floor there's a moment after the first chorus that always reminds me of the beginning of I/Me/Myself with how it does the kinda doo-wop but with a small trumpet section instead
Also, that Skeleton Appreciation Day / Chemical Overreaction bit is done really well when listening to the live versions off of The Real Will Wood, especially with how they transition into eachother
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that
0:57 I like to think that it’s more foreshadowing than leitmotif, as it was a lead up to the next album
Might be a stretch, but 2012's "Mahaprajnaparamita" kinda sounds like the pre-choruses of Cotard's Solution (the "Rolling my third eye into the back" parts)
Technically no because it's not the same chords and notes but the vibe is similar
I think it's because maybe they're both some kind of weird minor arpeggios???? Idk i can't be sure my music theory isn't theorying rn :/
probably because they're both in phrygian dominant @@The_Liz_Poltergeist
there's a small motif for i/me/myself in against the kitchen floor
also in well, better than the alternative
The arpeggio in the middle of The Song With Five Names (right before the Hebrew) is the exact same as the one at the beginning of 2econd 2ight 2eer and is similar to the "everybody's all up in my business" part in Suburbia... and i swear I've heard it in more songs
Will seems to like doing a lot of chord buildups in his music which is something I've noticed! Its also in the instrumental of Cotard's Solution, Dr.Sunshine is Dead(the "Till my fears come to fruition I’m not scared" lyric), and also the backing vocals during Red Moon. There's absolutey more than just that, but those are a few that I can remember off the top of my head without going through his entire discography lmao. I've listened to so much of his music and I absolutely love finding and identifying patterns in music. :D
to be fair, that’s like a generic thing, you hear it at the beginning of a stereotypical barbershop performance
Also there's the little kazoo part that plays during:
-6up 5oh when he's saying those random words during the instrumental, the "da da da da da daa oh wooh wooh" thing
-Dr Sunshine is dead during the start, it's the same rythm but in a bass not a kazoo, and then with a kazoo when he says "If we could see each other then there's no more use for hiding..."
-Laplace's angel when he says "It doesn't take a killer to murder, it only takes a reason to kill"
there’s also a bit of ‘self-‘/‘-ish’ in the love me normally music video :D
I love a well Will Wood connects the songs in an album. It’s one of the reasons I’m such a big fan of him
Btw Suburbia Overture has more motifs.
The very start has the I/me/myself "do-wop ba do-wop ba". In the "Home is where the heart is you ain't homeless but you're heartless" part the cord progression is the same as in "memento mori" and "Well, better than the alternative...".
Lastly, i remember something involving Marsha at the very start of Merybell, but i'm not sure. And "Suburbia" is mentioned in the unreleased song "I will never amount to anything".
I know this is an older comment but I think Laplaces Angel and Vampire Reference in a Minor Key have similar chord progressions but I’m not sure
@@unabletofocusdotcom I also noticed that
I think Suburbia Overture and Love Me, Normally end with each other's intro motifs
Also the cord progression in the "Everyone's all up in my-" part is also the same in one from 2econd 2ight 2eer
Outliers and Hypocrities and Suburbia share some lyrics near the end.
Btw 6up 5oh and Vampire Reference have a leitmotif with the notes being the same in the pre-chorus (6up) and the instrumental interlude(VRIAMK)
And Half-Decade Hangovers intro is similar to the intro to Man i love being drunk.
In the desc he says that its not a leitmotif but just a similar chromatic walkdown, honestly Id disagree though, it seems out of place in vampire reference (not in a bad way) and its used a lot in 6up 5oh, plus the same album has callbacks to older albums so I don't see why this wouldn't be one.
I love the little transition between two of them at 3:50
i love leitmotifs
damn, suddenly I wanna hear the full 12 hours of the discography of will wood on shuffle to laugh and cry at the same time! thanks a lot!
Im pretty sure suburbia has references to all the other songs on tna, which is probably fairly known but its honestly so cool and makes it the perfect 'overture' and the first song on the record
Some fun facts from someone who has been tracking down and keeping a personal archive of a lot of Will's music. The main melody of "The Main Character" is in a lot of Will's live only songs/early versions of songs that were only on pateron! Also the "the future must know where you've been..." lyric and many other melodies and lyrics from self-ish are lifted from older songs that were released(as you might have suspected) under the william sunshine name. If I remember I might come update this comment to be better when its not 11:50.
That's what I was gonna say, my favorite examples being "American depression" having lyrics and music that went into marsha and laplaces angels, and half decade hangover using a riff from man I love being drunk
That's what I was gonna say, my favorite examples being "American depression" having lyrics and music that went into marsha and laplaces angels, and half decade hangover using a riff from man I love being drunk
yes!! “I’ll never amount to anything” has a piano solo that went into the main character, and there’s a cover of puttin’ on the ritz that will did that I’m pretty sure has parts of 6up 5oh in its instrumental
i feel like this is intentional tbh
like hell, SELFiSH and The Normal Album have this in SPADES, it ltierally connects the whole album together, it makes sense In Case i Make It and In Case i Die also share motifs, they sort orlf ar elike... retrospectives? of eberything so far in a way
idk if anyone has pointed this out already but from the normal album documentary: the background during the talking part of blackboxwarrior is a distorted audio of will whistling the melody to vampire culture! two cross references to the same two songs
2:19 I’ll stay awake tonight……CRA-
CRYMYNAMEANDREMINDMAEYHEOFMYIDENTITAHEY
the way will wood says floor boards "floormboards">>
Another one I found is the melody after the final chorus of Vampire Culture sounds like the melody after the opening of Outliars and Hyppocrates
It's amazing how many songs from TNA that Suburbia Overture references
Also, there’s this one small chord pattern that plays in Marsha, Thankk You’s solo that weirdly resembles a part of I / Me / Myself’s solo
It _IS_ an overture, is it not?
I'm not sure anybody else has pointed this one out but in memento mori, the part that says "well one day you'll be not even a faint memory" until "Your legacy's not yours to see nor is your eulogy and you'll never know what it all means" you can literally perfectly sing front street's chorus
I loved the 1 frame scream from cotards to dr sunshine
I think the end of Cicada Days matches the beginning of Falling Up
(And I think think Rumba of Death has a saxophone part that's the same as Laplace's Angel)
sory leitmotifs are so cool
No way does just the word “suburbia” count
to be fair how many peoples vocabulary just have suburbia in there constantly
In my opinion, "hold my hands, we'll dance on the 12-step on my grave" (vampire reference) sounds a lot like it but oH wElL i gUeSs nOt (that's meant to be passive aggressive in a joking way)
also will wood has at least two maybe three vampire songs? hello?
oh and the reason I love the SELF-iSH album so much is because there are callbacks everywhere to different songs and its just...woah
there's threee afaik
vampire reference, vampire culture, yes to err is human
I love this kind of stuff in songs, for example in Hamilton or Crazy Ex-Girlfriend or in Will Wood songs and I JUST FOUND IT ACTUALLY HAS A NAME THAT'S SO COOL, I was calling it something like lyrics/melody recycling ahah
I did enjoy the use of the 2012 music video
it's funny how some of these songs later had transitions in the live album.
Could be overthinking but Welcome to CH&T Evening Announcements sounds like the beginning of The Song With 5 Names
At the very end of Against The Kitchen Floor's chorus, there's a small instrumental heavily resembling I/Me/Myself.
Hey there :)
Can ya point out which part of I/Me/Myself I should be listening for?
@@RaptrRamblings”boyfriend-girlfriend”
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and also a small trumpet part in against the kitchen floor that resembles the do ap daba doo ap of i me myself
Fun? Fact! 8:33 is a reference to the tell-tale heart, a short story by Edgar Allen Poe
I played a bunch of songs from in case I make it on my guitar cause I was bored today, right after the other, and holy shit they are SO similar. theres a BUNCH of this: emmaj7 to em7 to em6, and a BUNCH of: g to gmaj7 to g7
This is very off topic but I want someone to make a mashup of Lysergide Daydream and Memento Mori... they could go so well together and sometimes I sing the verses of one song while singing the other on accident lol.
They're also coincidencentally the two I'm learning on ukulele
They share a decent amount of chords
Lysergide daydream goes F Dm Am Dm Am Bb C
And memento mori goes something vaguely like F A Dm Bb C D7 (I have definitely not perfectly memorized this one yet)
@@via3600 Interesting! I'm learning Better than the Alternative on guitar and chords are similar, simple F Dm Bb C loop although I haven't gotten past that. Would LOVE to learn ukulele tho.
@gripen777 I love playing ukulele
Both me and my ukulele are out of tune but it's okay we have fun haha
I chose it over the guitar for 2 reasons
1) I've found its very important for the instruments I use to have a Silliness factor
2) the nylon strings are easier on the fingers and there's less stretching involved
I'm just here to have fun and I'm not prepared for the commitment of causing my fingers pain until they don't feel anymore so I can play my instrument lol
Lots of fun though, recommend
@gripen777 also I found ukulele chords all (or almost all, idk) will wood songs so that's pretty cool 👀
He's also a big fan of E though which I can NOT play yet unfortunately
@@via3600 Ukulele sounds so fun!!! I have trouble with my wrists when I play guitar, although that might be down to how I'm holding it and also might be something I can practice out; I would much prefer a smaller instrument that I can just have fun on and jam with though. I think I saw one at Music&Arts for $100, might go get one 👍
i once saw a live performance where will did 2012 and destroy to enjoy in the same song
Also the beginning of Cotard’s Solution (Anatta, Dukkha, Anicca) sounds like the near end of Mr. Sunshine is Dead.
In Outliers and hippocrates Will makes a reference in the verse "Too weird to love, too scared to die, too alien to take you home" to a song by A Verbal Equinox (a band he was in before he created Will Wood and the Tapeworms) called "He'll use me for his needle show" with the verse "I'm far too wierd to life, but ain't too rare to die, take a good hard look, you can see it in my bloodshot eyes"
Curiously, Dr. Sunshine himself sings this song
some of these very much a stretch
4:17 is such a drastic change lol i love both albums tho
6up 5oh copout chromatic thingy and the background vocals at the end of song w 5 names are pretty similar
Well that explains why I liked Welcome to CH&T, I loved the opening to Mr. Fregoli's and didn't even realize he just, yoinked it as Mr. Rat Wood himself does
I'm so glad i found this video! just yesterday i was talking about these with my friend bc i find the musical similarities in songs really interesting and i noticed how much Will Wood does it. thank you so much for compiling all of these together!!!!!!
i see everything
IS THAT A WILL WOOD REFERENCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This isn’t leitmotif-it’s just sampling and reusing parts of his older songs (which is still cool)
good video, but aren't some of these just songs that share lyrics?
a leitmotif is a theme that carries onto other stuff, so the lyrics count
@@TraumatizedDumpster no, it’s not. leitmotif is a recurring melody or musical phrase that’s associated w/ a specific person, place, idea, etc (the person who made the video is using the term wrong)
omg hai :D