When you play it for the second time, you notice that the VERY FIRST voxophone, the one of Lady Comstock in the water church, says it outright - "... you are the Prophet, and the Prophet is you."
Such great foreshadowing. "You are the prophet and the prophet is you" at first sounds like the type of inane, metaphorical slogan you would expect a bunch of brainwashed cultists to repeat to each other as a mantra. "Yeah, sure... I am the prophet and the prophet is me..... whatever you say crazy lady". It's a cliche that fits so perfectly in-game that when you first hear it you don't even think twice. But by the end of the story you realize that, no, this is *literally* true. I am actually the prophet and the prophet is actually me. Bioshock Infinite is filled with story spoilers like this which are so brilliantly hidden in plain sight that you don't even notice them until repeat playthroughs.
She doesn´t fades away, if you play burial at sea you´ll realize that this elizabeth still alive during the whole dlc. I would like to talk more about it but the ending in the first DLC is so good that i would spoil the ending
never before in my 23 years of gaming has an ending affected me in such a way, i remember finishing it like 1 hour before work and i went to work all depressed and with sooo many questions in my head, hahaha one of the best games i personally have ever played! Ken Levine is a Genius.
Chris Constanti He was a soldier. Don't know about his education but if you were a soldier, you probably wouldn't have got enough education to have a job.
It feels like the people who bashed this ending were either not fans of the game or didn't understand it at all. When a game like this tends to make you use your brain some people just say "nope, this game sucks", simply because they didn't understand it. Bioshock Infinite and The last of Us were clearly my favourite games of 2013, and I think they deserve the praise that it gets.
when all the elizabeths are standing in front of DeWitt look at the one on the far left then open up the first gameplay trailer from 2012 that showed the first concept of the game and look at how Elizabeth looks.....mind blown
Despite everything, I feel sorry for Comstock. He really wanted nothing more than forgiveness for his sins and it was his overcompensation that caused everything to go wrong.
that last piano key literally sends a shiver down my spine, this has got to be the greatest story ever told in a video game. possibly in a movie, unbelievable.
I just finished a 2nd playthrough of the game this evening, A true masterpiece. And the ending is still mindblowing even though I knew what was going to happen this time,
In comparison to Bioshock 1, Infinite wasn’t nearly as strong, but it had its moments - this entire sequence was one of those moments. Experiencing it all for the first time was... incredible and tragic. To find out Elizabeth was your daughter, to find out the truth and to die in the end to make sure the realities with Comstock never existed - to make sure Elizabeth, your daughter, never suffered again.
The Game is just perfect! I have NEVER expected an ending like THAT! All the time i thought booker and elisabeth would have made such an awesome couple after all what happened and than THAT! I was shocked at first...and than i lost tears. The end is so touching and so sad...man i LOVE this Game SO much! PLEASE make another one :D And sorry for my bad english :)
Amazing game, just finished it (didn't have the time to play games since 2009); I disagree with the interpretation, though. Booker didn't fully die, because he became a father only after the battle of Wounded Knee and baptism offer. He was sort of reduced to the non-baptised version without the experience of selling Anna. Essentially, 20 years of his life - which in our case culminated in meeting Elisabeth - were cancelled, but I believe that the player-Booker and the ending-Booker are from the same timeline. I think he was given a second chance at life, and the best one. Elizabeth's explanations were for EVERY Booker in possibility space, she used the consciousness of having-met-her-Bookers to convince the wavering Bookers who would otherwise go through with baptism. So in the end we see the true Booker awakening in his past, with memories of "his" death, but it's really like with the Columbian soldiers, they see memories of their alternate versions who died. Besides, we can be confident that Anna's safe in the crib because there's no Comstock in the edited multiverse to "buy" her. That's all.
This is IMO one of the best mindscrew endings in gaming history. After playing around with temporal distortions galore throughout the game (and especially for the last half of it), in the end you end up unwinding and collapsing all possible universes... except _one_.
I've seen this several times now, but it still gets me almost as much as when I saw it for the very first time. From the orchestration, to the pacing, to the voice acting it's just a mind blowing experience. This really raises the bar in videogame storytelling...hopefully.
I almost cried at the end :') nice to see everything works out and booker can raise Anna as her daughter. And there's only one og him now in a universe where Comstock never existed and where he don't have any debt
And it was at this time Ken Levine decided to spark one of the greatest BioShock controversies of 2013...or of all time in that case. Or does the biggest BioShock controversy come from something else? I mean, the possibilities ARE infinite......;)
Great gameplay and it was a + that you also included the tiny cut-scene after the credits (most people miss it) only thing that bothered me was the screen tears but I guess they came from the rendering or did it occur during recording?
Absolutely love the Bioshock games, this one especially due to its parallel reality theme but also the first two for sheer brilliance when it comes to their storylines and scare moments. I cant wait to see what that post credits scene means - thats hoping that the next game (please let there be a next game!) explains it.
First of all there's no Final Boss. No reason that should be in the title. Secondly, I'm certain I'll be burned at the stake for this but I feel the downfall of this game was the fact that it relied far too much on plot twists over actual plot. I find it funny how most people who criticize this game or its ending get talked down too as if they're intellectually lesser for forming an opinion. Yes I did understand the ending and the idea of infinite universes but I found they had difficulty co-existing with the human element of the game. The first bioshock was about a city absent of rules or god that fell to its own corruption. You feel for the denizens of Rapture because while being the pinnacle of science and industry they were all just regular people at one point. I never get anything close to a feeling of sympathy for any of Columbia. Elizabeth drew me in at first but when faced with the scale of infinite universes it's hard to... care. Nothing matters, the city doesn't exist anymore and it becomes less a story about people and more a bunch of bad comic book twists. The ending is complicated but nothing is really gained from its complications. The plot twist is there only because the other bioshock had a plot twist.
stalemittens You phrased out some things wrongly i think, but you are absolutely right in everything except for "only there because other bioshock had a plot twist" part. partially you are right, but still, it had it's own orchestrated idea which was not cheap at all. The execution of it, though was highly elective and I do agree with you. Yet there is a certain beauty in the dialogue: "- you can't make me do things I don't wish to do. - you've already done it."
The boss battle referred to the Songbird. The ending was not perfect but most of us accept that. It was a decent game. They was trying to say that you become the person that you hate and that each choice can lead you down a different path even if it is slightly identical. They tried something different and didn't win everyone over. If they made it into a generic FPS, people would still complain.
While the city is an important part of the game, the story of the game is more about Booker/Comstock and Elizabeth/Anna more than it is about Columbia. "There's always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city." I don't think you're suppose to feel any sympathy for Columbia, but you are suppose to for the characters I mentioned. Narrowing this story down to these two characters, every Elizabeth (not Annas) that exist, exists because of that decision to be baptized, and every timeline that begins with a man going to a lighthouse to get to a city ends with the prophecy of the seed raining down fire, on New York as the scenario in game shows, but it's not so much about saving New York as it is about stopping Elizabeth from being the one to do it, and I'd imagine it isn't the only "bad future" that the Lucentes are trying to prevent, but it is the only one we're presented with in the story of the game. The split between Booker and Comstock happened at the baptism, so killnig Booker before he can make that decision would ultimately get rid of an Elizabeth that would eventually be able to tear holes through spacetime, and thus end their story. It might not be cathartic, but it definitely is an end, and I don't think the game is trying to say the world is saved at the end,, or that there won't be a Columbia, but Booker's and Elizabeth's are definitely over. As far as your criticism about relying on plot twists, the first Bioshock was basically an FPS slog to get to the fanatical leader of a city you're in with a plot twist that "Surprise! You were predestined to go there and kill him!" and then it turned into another slog to get to the real bad guy, whereas in Infinite, it's you trying to get to the fanatical leader of a city you're in with a plot twist of "Surprise! You were the bad guy the whole time!" The only difference is the timing of the reveal, which I think all of the subtle foreshadowing in Infinite handled much better than the simple reveal of "Hey, all those 'Would you kindly...?"'s meant you had no choice. I think Bioshock 1/2 were more about the world with a plot twist about the characters, whereas Bioshock Infinite was more a story about characters with a plot twist about the world.
This was refreshing, no matter what choice you make in the game the ending will be the same, different Bookers from different universes who are all similar, yet different, but end up with the same fate. Even if you did not take the baptism, he would of still ended up the same as he is now. This was really an amazing game.
If any of you guys are actual Bioshock fans , then you would notice that at 1:12 when booker turns around , you can see the glowing sign "Rapture Metro" , the creators took a quick flashback to Bioshock 2 where the setting takes place in an under water city named Rapture
thank you for posting this, I missed the ending, but I am confused... is Anna Dewitt Elizabeth? I don't really get it, I know Elizabeth is his daughter and I get the ending when the drown him but that is all I kinda get
Ok in short, Booker Dewitt goes to the baptism and reality splits in two at that point, one line is where he becomes Comstock and accepts the baptism and another where he refuses and becomes booker. Now in comstock's world he works with the Lutece twins (the people in the boat), who are scientists or something, and they know how to move between lines. It is at this time that Comstock is building Columbia, and realizes he needs a daughter, but he has become infertile for some reason I can't remember, so with the lutece twins, he jumps into Booker's line and takes Anna or Elizabeth (same person) and the tear closes on her finger, which is why she is missing it. Comstock eventually has some sort of falling out with the twins, and in order to stop him, they bring Booker from his line through a tear, into Comstock's (the one with Columbia).
Huh, why couldn't they leave it all in the past? Leave the pain and tragedy behind them and move on? A million other awful things happen to other people across the world, worlds and they don't go out stopping things from ever happening. Why not accept some other Elizabeths and Bookers don't get happy endings?
Thomas Parkin They wanted to make sure that everything that happened in Columbia, never happened. None of the murder, none of the segregation, none of it. However, they had to "stop it where it all began" aka the baptism. You see, this is the turning point in the story. Booker can walk one of two paths. In one universe he accepts the baptism and becomes Zachary comstock. In the other, he rejects and stays as booker Dewitt. If they wanted to stop all the Columbia stuff, they had to go back to the turning point. Had they gone back any further and killed booker, then Elizabeth wouldn't have been born, which means none of this could ever happen. I know, parallel universe stuff, it's confusing.
Elizabeth: "He's Zachary Comstock" Elizabeth II: "He's Booker DeWitt" Booker: : "No,...I'm both" A Stranger: "No! He is,... he was,... and will be, Jack Ryan DeWitt! It's the only way to save me and the girl." Sometimes I imagine that there's another person with Booker and Elizabeth(s) to prevent Comstock from being born and for Booker to become Jack in the world of Rapture.
When I played Infinite for the first time I was absolutely not expecting this. I usually skip the credits at the end of games, but I just had to sit there and try to make sense of what had just happened.
I think the beginning quote is referring to the memories of Robert Lutece offering Booker to go to Colombia where he recreated some part of the memories using the memories he had when he was selling his daughter to Lutece earlier
Nah, that was everything. After I asked you the question, I went and watched a few vids about the ending to try to understand. Ended up figuring out on my own. Thank you for the help!
You know what pals ? No need to brainstorm. I got my own theory : everything (includind the full game itself) and before 14 : 35 is a dream. At the very end Booker awake from this dream and return to his normal life. Owever he's still basking in the afterglow of this painful, complicated nightmare and wish to check if her girl is still with him to know if he's still dreaming or not. Hopefully Anna should be with him (we're not sure). Deliberatly from 14 : 35 to the end, the devs don't show Booker's right hand. Why ? Because he actually lives "normally" with his child and never gone mad and tear his right hand but they don't want us to have a proof. All of this was a dream (a painful nightmare in fact).
I've play all of the Bioshock games ALOT and by far this is the best game I have ever played in my life... The ending is by far amazing.. It made me wanna cry
I hate this game because the gameplay was terrible, a huge downgrade from the original Bioshock. I don't feel like writing an essay here so I'll just name a couple of terrible things; boring combat with rubbish superpowers, all the minigames that gave the game depth were gone in favor of linear levels, an awful upgrade system that makes no sense with a strict two weapon limit that you're always dropping for new weapons. This game is the most overrated game in history!
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sure. we get the idea. the game sucks. either that, or you are just another one of those who only like to point out negativity in things. be it as it may, I'm sure you could do a better game, pal. but where is it?
***** Here's the thing, the game got 10/10 across the board and after I'd completed the game I wondered which game they were playing. Of course I couldn't make a better game but the devs already had made much better games before so I don't know why this was so inferior.
The intro versus the ending make it seem like a parallel too, entering Columbia you ascend and then descend, leaving Rapture you descend to ascend plus the two lighthouses.
Will never get tired of seeing this ending. First time I finished it I was like Whaaaat?!! just as I was shedding tears. No game has ever had that emotional effect on me EVER!!! Specially that scene at the end (after the credits) I LITERALLY found myself calling out for ANNA :'( Quite possibly the best ending in a Videogame EVERRRRR
I think it's more related to the fact that a portal is what directly cut the finger splitting the girl across universes, rather than just leaving stuff behind.
Supposedly that was the only universe in which he accepted the baptism. Whether or not Booker now remembers everything that has happened (his dialogue at the very end seems to suggest he does), his death there has caused Comstock to cease to exist entirely.
you are correct, the Elizabeth we went through the game with is the one who we encounter as an old woman who sends us back to save her 'again' however this is a different Elizabeth since as you said the brooch is missing, meaning booker didn't give her a brooch meaning a different universe, a different Elizabeth
ign released it a few days ago also the 3 add ons will be about the other alternate universes in columbia like the reality where booker dewitt was a hero in the city stuff like that
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And so it ends where it all started. Under the water.
Bazzabazeman, precisely.
Holy shit I never noticed that!
+Bazzabazeman "UNDER DA SEA"
+Akuji lol
Constants and variables.
"Like a candle in the wind; unreliable" - Dean Learner
When you play it for the second time, you notice that the VERY FIRST voxophone, the one of Lady Comstock in the water church, says it outright - "... you are the Prophet, and the Prophet is you."
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Such great foreshadowing. "You are the prophet and the prophet is you" at first sounds like the type of inane, metaphorical slogan you would expect a bunch of brainwashed cultists to repeat to each other as a mantra. "Yeah, sure... I am the prophet and the prophet is me..... whatever you say crazy lady". It's a cliche that fits so perfectly in-game that when you first hear it you don't even think twice. But by the end of the story you realize that, no, this is *literally* true. I am actually the prophet and the prophet is actually me.
Bioshock Infinite is filled with story spoilers like this which are so brilliantly hidden in plain sight that you don't even notice them until repeat playthroughs.
Booker: City at the bottom of the ocean. Ridicoulous.
Me: A city in the sky. Puh-lease.
I thought the sky thing was more unbelievable than an under water city, but the one in the sky was a metaphor that is explained somewhere.
There is always a crompton there is always a england
That’s relativity folks.
Skeppermoon AJ Having a city under the sea is a lot terrifying than having one in the sky.
@@dweetsauce8513 because of the pressure of the sea
Would you kindly bring us the girl and wipe away the debt?
Omg you blew my mind dude
Well done.
A phrase spoken by a kindly master
The scene at the end as Elizabeth fades away with each note is probably one of the saddest things I have ever experienced.
She doesn´t fades away, if you play burial at sea you´ll realize that this elizabeth still alive during the whole dlc. I would like to talk more about it but the ending in the first DLC is so good that i would spoil the ending
Hector Gallegos uribe
Yes, the liz that doesn't fade away is the same liz from burial at sea ep 1. but she is dead in ep. 2 and it's a new liz.
***** way to ruin a surprise for people who haven't played it
U probably didnt see the post credits scene
never before in my 23 years of gaming has an ending affected me in such a way, i remember finishing it like 1 hour before work and i went to work all depressed and with sooo many questions in my head, hahaha one of the best games i personally have ever played! Ken Levine is a Genius.
my favourite game of all time
Bruh, I fckn studied quantum physics to fully understand the end and stop questioning my existance lol
well, although ken left them, he left some of his team behind to continue the bioshock series. he has his own new company called ghost story games.
Am I the only one who was really sad about Songbird's death
+MrFuthisshit songbird was awesome :c
Yeah, I kinda cried when Songbird died.
I was sad to
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no . that is my top 10 saddest scene
All that just because Booker sucks at gambling booker would you kindly get a job
Chris Constanti He was a soldier. Don't know about his education but if you were a soldier, you probably wouldn't have got enough education to have a job.
Chris Constanti He was a soldier and a Pinkerton agent. He would have been well respected in his time for what he did.
Did anybody notice that the brooch you chose for her changes in the ending? Implying that it's not your Elizabeth in the ending sequence.
GrieferOhhai wait what!? Really!?
"Booker: A city at the bottom of the ocean? Ridiculous." Says the man who lives in a flying city.
I remember when I first best this game, probably the biggest mindfuck I'd ever got. Them feels man.
Same here. I lost some sleep contemplating the ending for like a week.
to be big, THAT is big. i'm pretty sure the developpers goes to the hospital after a brain burnout.
It feels like the people who bashed this ending were either not fans of the game or didn't understand it at all. When a game like this tends to make you use your brain some people just say "nope, this game sucks", simply because they didn't understand it.
Bioshock Infinite and The last of Us were clearly my favourite games of 2013, and I think they deserve the praise that it gets.
Yeah like it took me awhile to get the ending and when i realized it i was trying to figure out if i like Bioshock more then The Last of Us
well last of us 2 is coming so people do praise it
No I understand I still fucking hate this game
@@nukaberry447 why tho?
0:30 is one of the biggest mindfucks of all time when you realize where you are and what is happening.
God this game fucking rocks. Jesus.
It's stupid. This game is fucking retarded.
***** Why?
Same
I freaked lol
I feel so sorry for people that played this without ever playing the original before, though.
when all the elizabeths are standing in front of DeWitt look at the one on the far left then open up the first gameplay trailer from 2012 that showed the first concept of the game and look at how Elizabeth looks.....mind blown
I always wondered why she looked so different..damn..I never saw that trailer until I saw this comment and went looking for it
This game is a giant Schrodinger's Cat
skysthelimit112 burial at sea is even a bigger Schrödinger's cat
In bio shock 2 there is literally a cat named Schrodinger
Schrodinger's Garfield
Despite everything, I feel sorry for Comstock. He really wanted nothing more than forgiveness for his sins and it was his overcompensation that caused everything to go wrong.
He's like Benito Mussolini in a way. Both became what they fought against.
The part where Songbird's eyes turn from red to green just gets me every time
Narciscynic Songbird was built to love Liz... at the end...just as he was about to die...he forgets his hate and chooses to remember his love for her
Brain.exe has stopped working.
This is why I hate time travel. Cool at the start, then the paradoxes come. Mix this with alternate dimensions and by god.
yaasz, just like a loop lol
Which is why time travel is impossible and possibly highly illegal in the year 2435.
@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 yeah if time travel ever gets invented, it would probably be illegal shortly after it's introduced
My god... This game really gives me the feels
that last piano key literally sends a shiver down my spine, this has got to be the greatest story ever told in a video game. possibly in a movie, unbelievable.
favourite video game of all time
Hamza Charag damn strait
This is the kind of story line and ending that TV shows/movies can only dream of having
The Leftevers achieved it through. Man, that was a crazy story. .
Did anyone else wear headphones to this and fucking shit themselves at the beginning?
I just finished a 2nd playthrough of the game this evening, A true masterpiece. And the ending is still mindblowing even though I knew what was going to happen this time,
Darkstar263 it still shocks me
Wait....doesn't Comstock say something earlier, that Booker's a "self destructor"...
Whoa....mindfuck...
Thas very tru
The only game that mindfucked me. I mean I was sad, angry,confused. I loved it.
This ending was perfection to a game that I consider a work of art.
My brain just did a backflip...
13:31
Anyone noticed that the Elizabeth on the left is the one from the 2010 demo?
In comparison to Bioshock 1, Infinite wasn’t nearly as strong, but it had its moments - this entire sequence was one of those moments. Experiencing it all for the first time was... incredible and tragic. To find out Elizabeth was your daughter, to find out the truth and to die in the end to make sure the realities with Comstock never existed - to make sure Elizabeth, your daughter, never suffered again.
This ending seems to make a bit more sense after seeing for the tenth time.
The Game is just perfect! I have NEVER expected an ending like THAT! All the time i thought booker and elisabeth would have made such an awesome couple after all what happened and than THAT! I was shocked at first...and than i lost tears. The end is so touching and so sad...man i LOVE this Game SO much! PLEASE make another one :D And sorry for my bad english :)
when I realized I was in rapture I damn near shit my pants out of excitement
Well here we are, recalling this masterpiece once again.
this was FUCKING AWESOME!
Amazing game, just finished it (didn't have the time to play games since 2009); I disagree with the interpretation, though. Booker didn't fully die, because he became a father only after the battle of Wounded Knee and baptism offer. He was sort of reduced to the non-baptised version without the experience of selling Anna. Essentially, 20 years of his life - which in our case culminated in meeting Elisabeth - were cancelled, but I believe that the player-Booker and the ending-Booker are from the same timeline. I think he was given a second chance at life, and the best one. Elizabeth's explanations were for EVERY Booker in possibility space, she used the consciousness of having-met-her-Bookers to convince the wavering Bookers who would otherwise go through with baptism. So in the end we see the true Booker awakening in his past, with memories of "his" death, but it's really like with the Columbian soldiers, they see memories of their alternate versions who died. Besides, we can be confident that Anna's safe in the crib because there's no Comstock in the edited multiverse to "buy" her. That's all.
Truly one of the greatest moments in games
This is IMO one of the best mindscrew endings in gaming history. After playing around with temporal distortions galore throughout the game (and especially for the last half of it), in the end you end up unwinding and collapsing all possible universes... except _one_.
I've seen this several times now, but it still gets me almost as much as when I saw it for the very first time. From the orchestration, to the pacing, to the voice acting it's just a mind blowing experience. This really raises the bar in videogame storytelling...hopefully.
I almost cried at the end :') nice to see everything works out and booker can raise Anna as her daughter. And there's only one og him now in a universe where Comstock never existed and where he don't have any debt
The songbird bit.. Hits me right in the feels.. A grown man crying over a mechanical bird!
Never thought of it that way, thanks.
The best 15 Minutes of my Life! Completely mindblown when i first experienced this!
And it was at this time Ken Levine decided to spark one of the greatest BioShock controversies of 2013...or of all time in that case. Or does the biggest BioShock controversy come from something else? I mean, the possibilities ARE infinite......;)
Greatest game ever! Mind=blown
this story does not get out of my head even 6 months after playing the game....just brilliant
Great gameplay and it was a + that you also included the tiny cut-scene after the credits (most people miss it) only thing that bothered me was the screen tears but I guess they came from the rendering or did it occur during recording?
One of the best games I have ever played. The ending just gave me tingles. I still think feel it. It was an amazing game.
one of the best games of all time
Can we just talk about the music for a second? It’s bloody fantastic,
Absolutely love the Bioshock games, this one especially due to its parallel reality theme but also the first two for sheer brilliance when it comes to their storylines and scare moments. I cant wait to see what that post credits scene means - thats hoping that the next game (please let there be a next game!) explains it.
First of all there's no Final Boss. No reason that should be in the title. Secondly, I'm certain I'll be burned at the stake for this but I feel the downfall of this game was the fact that it relied far too much on plot twists over actual plot.
I find it funny how most people who criticize this game or its ending get talked down too as if they're intellectually lesser for forming an opinion. Yes I did understand the ending and the idea of infinite universes but I found they had difficulty co-existing with the human element of the game. The first bioshock was about a city absent of rules or god that fell to its own corruption. You feel for the denizens of Rapture because while being the pinnacle of science and industry they were all just regular people at one point.
I never get anything close to a feeling of sympathy for any of Columbia. Elizabeth drew me in at first but when faced with the scale of infinite universes it's hard to... care. Nothing matters, the city doesn't exist anymore and it becomes less a story about people and more a bunch of bad comic book twists. The ending is complicated but nothing is really gained from its complications. The plot twist is there only because the other bioshock had a plot twist.
The same for rapture, there are infinite raptures
stalemittens You phrased out some things wrongly i think, but you are absolutely right in everything except for "only there because other bioshock had a plot twist" part. partially you are right, but still, it had it's own orchestrated idea which was not cheap at all. The execution of it, though was highly elective and I do agree with you. Yet there is a certain beauty in the dialogue: "- you can't make me do things I don't wish to do. - you've already done it."
The boss battle referred to the Songbird. The ending was not perfect but most of us accept that. It was a decent game. They was trying to say that you become the person that you hate and that each choice can lead you down a different path even if it is slightly identical. They tried something different and didn't win everyone over. If they made it into a generic FPS, people would still complain.
While the city is an important part of the game, the story of the game is more about Booker/Comstock and Elizabeth/Anna more than it is about Columbia. "There's always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city." I don't think you're suppose to feel any sympathy for Columbia, but you are suppose to for the characters I mentioned. Narrowing this story down to these two characters, every Elizabeth (not Annas) that exist, exists because of that decision to be baptized, and every timeline that begins with a man going to a lighthouse to get to a city ends with the prophecy of the seed raining down fire, on New York as the scenario in game shows, but it's not so much about saving New York as it is about stopping Elizabeth from being the one to do it, and I'd imagine it isn't the only "bad future" that the Lucentes are trying to prevent, but it is the only one we're presented with in the story of the game.
The split between Booker and Comstock happened at the baptism, so killnig Booker before he can make that decision would ultimately get rid of an Elizabeth that would eventually be able to tear holes through spacetime, and thus end their story. It might not be cathartic, but it definitely is an end, and I don't think the game is trying to say the world is saved at the end,, or that there won't be a Columbia, but Booker's and Elizabeth's are definitely over.
As far as your criticism about relying on plot twists, the first Bioshock was basically an FPS slog to get to the fanatical leader of a city you're in with a plot twist that "Surprise! You were predestined to go there and kill him!" and then it turned into another slog to get to the real bad guy, whereas in Infinite, it's you trying to get to the fanatical leader of a city you're in with a plot twist of "Surprise! You were the bad guy the whole time!" The only difference is the timing of the reveal, which I think all of the subtle foreshadowing in Infinite handled much better than the simple reveal of "Hey, all those 'Would you kindly...?"'s meant you had no choice.
I think Bioshock 1/2 were more about the world with a plot twist about the characters, whereas Bioshock Infinite was more a story about characters with a plot twist about the world.
I really enjoyed this game, the ending was amazing!
This was refreshing, no matter what choice you make in the game the ending will be the same, different Bookers from different universes who are all similar, yet different, but end up with the same fate. Even if you did not take the baptism, he would of still ended up the same as he is now. This was really an amazing game.
If any of you guys are actual Bioshock fans , then you would notice that at 1:12 when booker turns around , you can see the glowing sign "Rapture Metro" , the creators took a quick flashback to Bioshock 2 where the setting takes place in an under water city named Rapture
2:10
That has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
thank you for posting this, I missed the ending, but I am confused... is Anna Dewitt Elizabeth? I don't really get it, I know Elizabeth is his daughter and I get the ending when the drown him but that is all I kinda get
oh ok thank you!
Ok in short, Booker Dewitt goes to the baptism and reality splits in two at that point, one line is where he becomes Comstock and accepts the baptism and another where he refuses and becomes booker. Now in comstock's world he works with the Lutece twins (the people in the boat), who are scientists or something, and they know how to move between lines. It is at this time that Comstock is building Columbia, and realizes he needs a daughter, but he has become infertile for some reason I can't remember, so with the lutece twins, he jumps into Booker's line and takes Anna or Elizabeth (same person) and the tear closes on her finger, which is why she is missing it. Comstock eventually has some sort of falling out with the twins, and in order to stop him, they bring Booker from his line through a tear, into Comstock's (the one with Columbia).
You actually helped me out there thank you SOOO much!
Yeah Elizabeth is Anna Dewitt, In another universe Anna Dewitt is with Booker a happy Fammile
Anybody that's played To the Moon will find the Stars/Lighthouse thingy even more touching.
Completed this game today! One if the best I've ever played - I really enjoyed every minute of it!
Huh, why couldn't they leave it all in the past? Leave the pain and tragedy behind them and move on? A million other awful things happen to other people across the world, worlds and they don't go out stopping things from ever happening. Why not accept some other Elizabeths and Bookers don't get happy endings?
Thomas Parkin They wanted to make sure that everything that happened in Columbia, never happened. None of the murder, none of the segregation, none of it. However, they had to "stop it where it all began" aka the baptism. You see, this is the turning point in the story. Booker can walk one of two paths. In one universe he accepts the baptism and becomes Zachary comstock. In the other, he rejects and stays as booker Dewitt. If they wanted to stop all the Columbia stuff, they had to go back to the turning point. Had they gone back any further and killed booker, then Elizabeth wouldn't have been born, which means none of this could ever happen. I know, parallel universe stuff, it's confusing.
Elizabeth: "He's Zachary Comstock" Elizabeth II: "He's Booker DeWitt" Booker: : "No,...I'm both" A Stranger: "No! He is,... he was,... and will be, Jack Ryan DeWitt! It's the only way to save me and the girl." Sometimes I imagine that there's another person with Booker and Elizabeth(s) to prevent Comstock from being born and for Booker to become Jack in the world of Rapture.
The star "lighhouses" part gave me a serious OMGWTF moment ! still have goosebumps
When I played Infinite for the first time I was absolutely not expecting this. I usually skip the credits at the end of games, but I just had to sit there and try to make sense of what had just happened.
Holy Crap...I just remembered that Troy Baker is Booker. Weird considering I've been playing Tales From The Borderlands...
He also plays the American / Caucasian voice of the protagonist in Saints Row The Third and Saints Row IV.
***** Listen closely and you can hear the Leader of the Third Street Saints when Booker DeWitt speaks.
Yeah, he is practically voicing every game now
I just wanted to go to Paris with my waifu from the start. Live a quiet new life away from it all. :(
I think the beginning quote is referring to the memories of Robert Lutece offering Booker to go to Colombia where he recreated some part of the memories using the memories he had when he was selling his daughter to Lutece earlier
Nah, that was everything. After I asked you the question, I went and watched a few vids about the ending to try to understand. Ended up figuring out on my own.
Thank you for the help!
You know what pals ? No need to brainstorm.
I got my own theory : everything (includind the full game itself) and before 14 : 35 is a dream. At the very end Booker awake from this dream and return to his normal life.
Owever he's still basking in the afterglow of this painful, complicated nightmare and wish to check if her girl is still with him to know if he's still dreaming or not.
Hopefully Anna should be with him (we're not sure).
Deliberatly from 14 : 35 to the end, the devs don't show Booker's right hand.
Why ? Because he actually lives "normally" with his child and never gone mad and tear his right hand but they don't want us to have a proof.
All of this was a dream (a painful nightmare in fact).
That ending was one of the biggest letdowns I've ever seen.
Dominic Ka
So it's unreasonable to expect that the ending to a story not to suck?
TheTrohl
It's actually an excellent ending. What sort of ending do you want? A happy one? Were you also unhappy with ME3 ending?
Hannibal Thai Ah everyone was unhappy with ME3 ending
I know what you mean , big let down tbh :/
Both Me3(with DLC cutscene) and this ending are great , not sure what else were you expecting ...
I've play all of the Bioshock games ALOT and by far this is the best game I have ever played in my life... The ending is by far amazing.. It made me wanna cry
That goddamn piano at the end. . . the most painful thing to listen to. . .
Stupid ending. Screw time traveling.
Why? Does it hurt your tiny brain to think that hard? What a shame, poor baby.
Shadow Quote Says he guy who thinks he figured out an impossible paradox. xD
Ádám Hegedűs Impossible paradox? What are you babbling about?
Ádám Hegedűs ofc, blame the game for your own intellectual incompetence to understand the story.
Sorry, you are the one severely lacking if you think it isnt faulty. Think about it again after kindegarten.
I hate this game because the gameplay was terrible, a huge downgrade from the original Bioshock. I don't feel like writing an essay here so I'll just name a couple of terrible things; boring combat with rubbish superpowers, all the minigames that gave the game depth were gone in favor of linear levels, an awful upgrade system that makes no sense with a strict two weapon limit that you're always dropping for new weapons. This game is the most overrated game in history!
sure. we get the idea. the game sucks. either that, or you are just another one of those who only like to point out negativity in things. be it as it may, I'm sure you could do a better game, pal. but where is it?
***** Here's the thing, the game got 10/10 across the board and after I'd completed the game I wondered which game they were playing.
Of course I couldn't make a better game but the devs already had made much better games before so I don't know why this was so inferior.
And also a shitty main villian I was expecting a better villian than andrew ryan but there you go!
Callum Turner Most of the villains in the original Bioshock were interesting and memorable. Infinite's just plain sucked!
rockys201 BioShock was all about Rapture and its inhabitants. Infinite is all about Booker and Elizabeth. They shifted their focus in this game.
Insane chills at the last piano note!!!
The intro versus the ending make it seem like a parallel too, entering Columbia you ascend and then descend, leaving Rapture you descend to ascend plus the two lighthouses.
Will never get tired of seeing this ending.
First time I finished it I was like Whaaaat?!! just as I was shedding tears.
No game has ever had that emotional effect on me EVER!!! Specially that scene at the end (after the credits) I LITERALLY found myself calling out for ANNA :'(
Quite possibly the best ending in a Videogame EVERRRRR
I remember when I first played this at the time, my jaw dropped when they came back to Rapture.
I've watched and played this ending for over 50 times now but I still have Chills each time I even see rapture.
One of the few video game endings that genuinely moved me.
loved that bit
Yes, the fact that there is a city is the constant, but the variables are everything that is different about the two cities.
His eyes went green. He was at peace.
I watched this ending ever since the game came out and it still gets to me
Such an experience. Beat it today for the first time 😌😭now playing the dlc
I think it's more related to the fact that a portal is what directly cut the finger splitting the girl across universes, rather than just leaving stuff behind.
Anybody else get goosebumps when Elizabeth took Booker and Songbird to Rapture and then the music started playing...My favorite moment in gaming ever
Ive watched this so many times since ive finished the game, and i still get a bit teary eyed at the end
Supposedly that was the only universe in which he accepted the baptism. Whether or not Booker now remembers everything that has happened (his dialogue at the very end seems to suggest he does), his death there has caused Comstock to cease to exist entirely.
Most thought provoking, awe inspiring ending to a game. Ever.
13:18 is the bit that really gets me, the disbelief and realization of what is happening is frightening
that lost feeling you get after you finish this game...
Out of every video game series I play bioshock seems to have the saddest
Obviously my boy Jack....makes me so proud!
when he is trying to get Anna back, I get chills every single time
you are correct, the Elizabeth we went through the game with is the one who we encounter as an old woman who sends us back to save her 'again' however this is a different Elizabeth since as you said the brooch is missing, meaning booker didn't give her a brooch meaning a different universe, a different Elizabeth
12:54 Look closely. Elizabeth doesn't follow Booker through the door. None of the Elizabeth's he sees have the neck pendant.
This was a game which doesn't need a sequal... The ending was perfect, unexpected and mind-blowing
thats sad and happyness in one
ign released it a few days ago also the 3 add ons will be about the other alternate universes in columbia like the reality where booker dewitt was a hero in the city stuff like that