Honest Review Of My Small Engine Shop Ultrasonic Cleaner & The Cleaning Solutions I Use
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- In this video I show you the Ultrasonic cleaner that I have been using in my small engine shop for years.
I also show the cleaning solutions that I use in this machine.
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I use Simple Green Extreme in mine, it is designed for use on aircraft (aluminum) and is safe on the carbs, it does not discolor or attack the aluminum alloy.
Just a tip... I heard that you can use plastic or glass jars like a clean pickle jar or a peanut butter jar full of cleaning solution. You put the parts inside the jar, close it, and then put the whole jar into the ultrasonic cleaner machine that is full of water. This prevents your machine from getting all dirty, and having to be cleaned out every time.
Plus saves on materials. Cheaper to fill a jar. Jp-8 works really well, petrol is a cheap alternative
I fill my cleaner with water. I then put my greasy oily dirty carburetor in a plastic jar full of gas with a tight lid. My part gets clean and my parts cleaner stays spotless. Gas is honestly the best cleaner I have found for the ultrasonic cleaner, no heat necessary.
The Zep cleaner contains sodium hydroxide (lye) to control the ph level (11-12) making it a base/alkali solvent. Aluminum and lye don't play well together. The ultrasonic cleaner has nothing to do with the aluminum turning dark/black. It will do the same thing sitting in a regular bucket of that cleaner without any agitation at all - try it. Also note that the instructions tell you "Never allow product to dry on surface before rinsing. Always rinse quickly when using on painted, stained or varnished surfaces." If you don't rinse it off with water before it dries it will leave a film of sodium hydroxide on the surface which will continue to corrode whatever it's on.
Do u mean the purple one or the orange one I'm going to buy the orange one today.
@@chadbosko8935both
Why not just empty the cleaner, instead letting it sit with water during winter.
And maybe it would be an idea, to put the parts in before the water, then you can see how much water you need to not overfill
Of course you will have to take things apart before cleaning, or else you will just have all the dirt inside the carburettor.
I have a 6 liter ultrasonic cleaner in my shop. I use Simple Green and water for about an hour at 50 celcius. Does a great job.
Don,
When I use my ultra sonic cleaner I use Pyrex containers with the lids and some gasoline in the Pyrex container as well with the part. It works really well. Thank you for taking time to film, edit and post this video.
I've been using an ultrasonic cleaner for several years and found the best cleaner to use is actually diesel fuel. It won't dry out gaskets and will actually breathe new life into some older rubber parts to get by if Amazon sends the wrong parts kit for the third time. Just remember to keep you temp below flashpoint or you're gonna have a bad day.
Did you also try Kerosene?
What's the flash point for rubber...what temp should I run for rubber diaphragm parts
I've tried many of the products you used, but I've found them inadequate. I like Gunk products. Bit more expensive, but holy cow really effective
On small carbs, and tooling too, that need cleaning. The ultrasonic machines are wonderful, however keep away from the harbor freight cleaners.
They are plastic and look like they're too plastic for me. Don, you're correct about the commercial metal machines. Heat is a must, and of course
The bit larger machines are quite effective as far as stronger vibration cycles. A tip I found out about is do not touch the chemical liquid in your cleaners, not good for the hands. What I did, was put extensions on the basket handles, stainless steel works well. Anything not to touch that
Part of the hand or arm area. Corrosive liquids are taboo, remember, skin is just another way of it entering the bloodstream. Safe cleaning!
It's surely fahrenheit. 120 degrees celcius would be boiling water... Steam actually!
thanks
Water boils at 100c or 212f
@@kdog01100 Correct. 120*C water would be in the form of steam unless it is under pressure to raise its boiling point.
@@mannys9130 It's easy to find out! Set it to 100, then put noodles in it. If you have nice pasta 10 min later it is Celsius :-D
Marty ultra sonic noodles, anyone? I’ve gotten pretty wasted in the shop, but not that bad, yet.
But, you have given me an idea! 🙈
I am really glad you posted the info about ZEP's Purple Degreaser. Keep it away from aluminum and anodized components. Take an empty aluminum soda can. Put about a 1/4" of ZEP Purple in it. Place the can in a plastic tub and let it sit. It will overflow with foam. It even gets warm from the exothermic reaction. In about 4 hours it will either spring a leak, or when you go to lift the can it will tear the bottom off.
If you are rebuilding and cleaning carburetors, this thing is a must! I just water and Dawn soap. Works like a charm!
Several years ago my neighbor needed the engine rebuilt in his sons pickup. I volunteered to do it in his basement. I researched cleaners that weren't toxic and didn't have a strong odor and did a good job cleaning. I experimented with the top three, the green stuff, the purple stuff and the cheapest product called Awesome. i chose Awesome because it cleaned better than the rest, had no odor and it didn't burn my hands. I soaked the parts over night. Only the top of the pistons had to be brushed and soaked the second night. I clean the burnt on sap on chain saw chains before I sharpen them. They call the stuff Awesome because it is Awesome!!!
We have the same one at the shop. Also we run ours much hotter and run a minimum of 1 hour. If you don,t it won't break down the varnish . If you don't it will still have plugged passage ways. We have had one for 10 years and have learned a lot over time
Pro tip: put your parts and degreaser in a small plastic container like a peanut butter conatainrr. Put the top on that and then submerse the jar into the water. Saves huge on degreaser and you never have to clean the sonic cleaner.
Keep up the good work . You have saved me money and time . I'll always go to your videos before I start a job I haven't done before . Thanks
As always a concise and detailed outline to help the every day joe and pro. Thanks Donny. Hope the black flies weren’t too bad in Skoka this year. Cheers from the the Kawartha’s
I preheat my solution in an old electric kettle. Works great and helps the heater work less and last longer
I use straight purple power in my ultrasonic cleaner, and I change the fluid every 10-12 carburetors, works awesome!
Great information, I've been thinking of getting one for the work I do and now I will knowing the
basic operation of these units. I was also very surprised at how powerful Simple Green was in
cleaning my Olds block before assembly.
Thanks Dony very informative, keep them coming, Great Videos
Hi Donyboy: I use purple power in my ultrasonic cleaner in my shop and have good luck with it. Like you stated, the heat setting and time is a major factor in getting a good job. Thanks for the excellent video.
I would love a cleaner for Fathers day! Thanks Don !
No one has mentioned this, but my go to solution is straight liquid Mr. Clean. I reuse it until it turns black. Currently restoring a Pearl drum kit, and am blown away by the fantastic results.
Great video. Very good detail and clarity in your explanations. Thank you.
Thank you for the advice on using non acidic cleaning solution to avoid darkening of aluminium.
As always Dony, your videos are clear, concise, and easy to understand. I always gain a lot of knowledge, and confidence, allowing me to perform my own repairs and maintenance quickly and successfully..
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Thanks Dony!
I’ve only had my ultrasonic cleaner a few months. I bought it to clean my John Deere Yanmar engine carburetor. I had read somewhere that you can use dishwasher detergent. I use Great Value dishwasher powder in our dishwasher.
I used it for my carburetor and it came out great. And it came out nice and bright not dull.
Happy cleaning 😊
Thanks for the video, I'm thinking about getting an ultrasonic cleaner
I use blue dawn for all of my reloading equipment when I clean the brass I use a wet tumbler and Lemishine rinse and it cleans my used brass to a bright new finish a very professional look.
Thanx for the vid. Yeah, I have been thinking about this a lot. I'd throw in gasoline injectors, diesel injectors, carburetors, lambda sensors and whatnot. I would definitely buy bigge than a gallon, like 6 litres.
Thanks a bunch for the great video Donny, just a tip to add that you may want to try using distilled water instead of tap water in the cleaner. I have used that for cleaning chainsaw cylinders and it does not tarnish or darken the aluminum like the regular tap water does.
Good tip. Makes me wonder if reverse osmosis filtered water would suffice? We're on a well, a decently safe, clean one. But we RO filter our drinking and cooking water. And I just received my first US cleaner, it's still in the box.
Simple green EXTREME works great in a ultra sounder. DO NOT use regular simple green though. It will attack the soft metal of a carb where EXTREME won't.
Glad I came across your video was thinking about purchasing one of these for my home garage.
Thanks for posting this video. I have heard horror stories about using the wrong solvent when cleaning carbs so I haven't cleaned them yet. Knowing that I can use Dawn and some of the orange cleaner helps.
All the best to you and your family
Great video. I have a cleaner that I haven't used yet. A good lesson.
I use Kleen-Flo Carburetor & Metal Parts Cleaner from my auto parts store. It smells strong when the cover is off, but it does work great. 8-10 minutes is usually all it needs even on a stubborn carb. Its a product made for that purpose, so it doesn't harm the aluminum even if I leave it sitting in there for a while.
i always enjoy your valuable information .. always very well explained..
Really like your channel.
The quality of the video is really cool.
Suggest rinsing cleaned parts with running tap water to remove all traces of cleaning solution/degreaser/antifreeze before drying them off or air blowing. Unless rinsed off, the residual chemicals can continue to react with/contaminate the parts.
Azhar, Thanks.
I need to get one of those ultrasonic cleaners, seems like a lot of small engine mechanics use them with great success.
Ultrasonic Cleaners work wonders, Ive been using mine for about 3 yrs now and I only wasn't able to clean 3 -5 carbs out of maybe 200 carbs cause they were so clogged, corroded and plugged and I ran into the darkening issue of the carbs in the beginning , I tried green simple green, zep fast 505, zep purple degreaser and they all darkened the carbs and left a chalky residue so what I use now which doesn't darken carbs is Simple green Pro HD its light purple and works awesome and even on there website it stated perfect for Ultrasonic Cleaning machines
bigbob0042 where’d you get the simple green pro? I’ll try it.
@@Jim-ie6uf home depot sells it , its the simple green pro HD its light purple in color and in more of a square lookin jug and its around 13-15 bucks and i fill the machine with hot tap water and add about 1/8 to a 1/4 cup and havent had a problem yet , i looked into the actual carb cleaner for ultrasonic cleaners but i cant justify 65-100 bucks for a gallon jug LOL, especially after 2 -3 carbs the water/soulution has to be changed cause you dont want to keep putting carbs into heavily dirty solution cause your almost defeating its purpose in my opinion
thanks for sharing your experience, 'n success w/ s-green pro hd
gasoline works too. pretty quickly actually. ive heard of many things ppl use. i recently soaked one in the yellow degreaser from harbor freight. seemed to worked pretty good. the darkening of the aluminium you refer to is its protective oxide layer being created. oxygen causes that as well. that layer melts at around 3000 degrees whereas the aluminum melts at 1250 or so. alternating current is used to blast away the oxide coating when welding it. dc wont do that for you. anyways i wouldnt be surprised if that oxide gives the aluminum more resistance to corrosion. who knows.
If you have two or more dissimilar metals and and a solution that is electrolytic then your darkening may be electroplating of some ionic molecules to the surface. Perhaps keeping the parts in baggies may help but then again, the dirt may be composed of fine metal that plates the surface.
Great review! I bought an ultrasonic cleaner, it's too soon to decide if it was a wise choice. Discussion forums say that the best ones work at a variable frequency, but they come at a price that is beyond the normal amateur range. Some advertise less noise, though I wonder if the quiet models work as well. Some come with plastic baskets, I'm not sure how durable those are. Your thoughts about size are noted, which will be balanced by the expense of bigger volumes of expensive solutions. Gotta love all the remarks below about cleaner options -- some definitely beat the cost of expensive solutions sold online.
I use a 50/50 mix of water and simple green. Works great for carburetors.
Thanks for the chemical recommendation. I have some small engine carbs on my shelf that I need to clean but have waited because I didn't want to use anything that would harm them. I keep spare carbs on a shelf in case something doesn't run right I can switch it out instead of trying to clean it on the spot.
I just use regular Pine Sol and water mix. Around 50/50 or so in a bucket or container of proper size. Cleaned a few carbs. Granted I let those sit for 24 hours, and shaking the container every so often to agitate the items inside. They come out nice and clean, granted as you said, I still give them a cleaning before going into their bath to remove any heavy soiled areas, and spray with either brake clean or carb clean to make sure they are degreased to not kill the soap sooner then I wanted. After they come out, I rinse everything well with hot water, just tap water. The hot water on metal will dry very fast. by the time I'm done rinsing and cleaning everything up they are pretty much dry. I'll still take air to them to make sure there is no trapped water in small spots. Then before rebuilding, I'll liberally spray them with carb cleaner to add some lubrication to everything. So far works perfectly. I now religiously start my small engines once a month and let them run for 5 minutes to make sure they continue to run well, and keep the gas in the carb from going stale. In my chainsaw I just run it for 2 minutes since it's a much smaller engine. I ran my lawn mower dry as dry can be, I will leave it bone dry over winter and see if there will be problems come summer.
I have a bigger one in my shop and it makes cleaning carbs so much easier.
Ultrasonic cleaners are great for the small 2 cycle carbs. Those tiny holes are so important to get clean.
In my shop, I've been using a ultrasonic cleaner for 6 years now, I have the 10L with the side drain valve, and 4 motors, and I modded it with a clear plastic tube, and put a paper element fuel filter in line, and when I drain the liquid the filter cleans the fluid, now the mixture I use is 25% purple simple green, 25% white distilled vinegar, and 50% water, but do not leave the carb in the liquid more then 60 minutes..... It's a indespencable piece of equipment in a small engine shop.
I've been using the zep heavy duty degreaser for years. Other known as big orange the stuff is awesome for removing oil n tar!!! Im an asphalt worker and use it to clean tar off of clothes, interior of cars etc. Have even used on state jobs to spray on shovels n tools to keep clean where diesel isn't allowed! Amazing stuff.
Ive seen phone/laptop repairers use ultrasonic cleaners as well, they are a great help :-D
I also thought of washing up liquid for the machine, if you can get industrial detergent it may work even better, stronger and its just detergent.
Vinager may work too.
I use Berriman's carburetor dip and follow up with a ultra sonic cleaner
I'm just learning about ultrasonic cleaners because I have some carburetors that regular cleaning & diaphragms didn't fix. I've found that some cleaners can damage aluminum & magnesium. Great video.
I have a 6l ultrasonic for cleaning. Big enough to fit a lawn mower carb with manifold or a complete chainsaw cylinder. For cleaning I use 50 degree Celsius tap water with a fair amount of Dasty. I also have Tickopur, a liquid sprecially designed for ultrasonic cleaners, but haven't used it yet, way too expensive in comparision to Dasty.
For cleaning silver jewellery, I add a small amount of amonio to it.
Thanks Don for the information you share in your videos, I learned al lot from you!
Good video. Been there-done that on turning a carb black!
Thanks Don for another great video, i just watched a video of a guy making one just for himself out of a plastic bottle attached to a vibrator sander.
Using your mixture in the bottle with hot tap water we’ll see how it works. He used CLR and left it running for an hr.
Water + Vinegar + a bit of Soap will do!
I use 1.5 cups of liquid Cascade in a 10L ultrasonic and fill the rest with distilled water. Have used it over and over for many jobs over the past few months. Still cleans the same each time.
I actually have the same ultrasonic cleaner and it works great. Like you said, it is kind of small for bigger carbs.
I got mine at HF. I use pinesol or simple green, but they do darken the carbs a bit.
Liked this video. Well done. My question is how effective is it on the carb that has varnish type buildup which, I guess, is from the fuel.
If I use a water base cleaner then I will use a clean water rinse, followed by blowing out the passages with air and then into my dryer box. A box about 1 foot cube with one door and a screen shelf. I mount a common hair dryer in the top and then drill small holes equal to the large hole of the dryer, about 10 mins in the box and it's done.
However I mostly use a solvent such as paint thinner and the work done outside for best ventilation.
Another 'trick' is to put the part in a glass jar with the cleaner, then put the jar in the usonic filled with water. Vibrations go right through the jar and you don't have to clean the tank.
I scoop my solution into a cheap electric kettle and heat up the liquid first then pour back in and turn heater on. Saves alot of time and wear on the heater element.
Good Video
I'll remember that's a hard no when you offer me a cup of coffee
I put parts and cleaning solution in resealable plastic bag then put in cleaner with water in tank. I can put multiple carbs in at the same time keeping all individual parts together. Can also use different cleaning solution for different purposes. Keeps tank clean and ready for use for everything. I even clean my eye glasses using a light dishwashing soap solution. Works great. My other go to cleaner is Simple Green.
Do you leave the bowl gasket on the carburetor when you put it in the ultra sonic cleaner just wondering if it's not damaged is it okay to leave it on. Great video thanks joe
I have the same one thanks to you! I save my self lots of brake cleaner now. I found the stuff sold at the dollar store called simply awesome. I usually add it to the water. Mine heats in Celsius. There is no option for degrees. I usually run it for 5 minutes, then Flip the parts and clean another 5 minutes. DONT use that purple cleaner. Its too corrosive on the coating of a carburator. As you stated, I learned the hard way. Thankyou for showing everyone for this video. I have saved many a bad carburetor that I would have never been able to clean because the ultra sonic cleaner reaches into those places brake or carb cleaner wont.
I also use awesome orange and dawn dish soap mixture. Does a fantastic job
Helpful video. Thank you.
Thanks Don. I appreciate the detailed explanation, bud!
I take out main jet just to be safe and if main jet is still not visible through all holes I take a welder tip cleaner then re-wash, works like a charm
A Carburetor jacuzzi :-D, Thanks DB73 fer the demonstration. I've been seriously considering adding one of those Ultra cleaners to my tool collection in the near future. I like um. Cheers !!***.
I know Mustie1 uses the Gunk carb cleaner in his with a windshield washer fluid to keep things from freezing.
I put my parts in a zip lock bag filled with water and dishwashing solution. I put plain water in the ultrasonic tub. I place the parts in the zip lock bag into the ultrasonic tub filled with water and they appear to clean up just as good. The ultrasonic waves go thru the zip lock bag and the parts get just as clean. This way I do not have such a mess to cleanup in the ultrasonic tub. Nice video!
Great job again like always
Great video! Thank you!
I use "YAMALUBE" that I picked up from my Local Outboard Engine Shop. They have had EXCELLENT results using it, and so have I. Around $7.00USD for a Quart.
Sadly, I have a 1.5Quart Ultrasonic Cleaner and will be upgrading to a 5Quart with adjustable Heating soon, as the Carburetor from my Kohler Magnum M18/M20 doesn't fit... 😿
Thanks for the video!
Take care,
🤓 -Thomas
Port Orchard, Washington State
PINESOL! I use straight (non-diluted) pinesol. I'll generally soak a carb for 24 hrs then run it for 15 mins. So far I've had good luck.
I just got a ultrasonic cleaner yesterday it a 10L tank I put a 1/4 of purple power in the tank than filled up with water and put a tablespoon of CLR did two runs of 30 at 50C clean up my ATC 200 carb quite well will be trying a 4 four-barrel carburetor soon will probably be swapping to a chem dip pretty soon as I've seen somebody used before and it works very well
Simple Green works great and it’s relatively cheap. I use a 50/50 mixture
As always. Yr a n point with yr demo mate. Nice
Definitely Fahrenheit. Also, I just love the Canadian accent. Good video.
I use a tea baller to put the real small pieces . I'm not sure if I'm using the correct name,I'll ask my wife and find out. Years ago,people put the tea leafs in it ,then lower it into the boiling teapot. It has a little chain to hang it from. It keeps the little parts contained and they come out clean as a whistle.
That's an excellent idea. I can get those things at my local dollar store.
LOL. Its called a "tea infuser". I use one in my ultrasonic cleaner for small jets and such. Couple bucks at the dollar store. it really seems to work better than an old spray can lid with drain holes poked in it.
“Tea bulb” in US English, western PA.
Haha its a tea infuser. But baller makes it funny.
@@randomwrenching terrific suggestion.Low ballers and perverts need not comment.
Love your videos. They have helped me out many times. I do have ultrasonic but I think I leave the carburetors in longer than I need to. How many minutes is long enough average to do a good job without wasting time? Thanks
That carburetor bowl looks SCARY !
Great Vid! Tx for sharing....Quick question: Can the solution be reused after you're done (Leave it in machine and use weeks or months later) or should you dump and put some new solution again?
I use simple green it seems to work pretty good
Simple green seems to work very well, thanks for the video Don.
Do you use regular simple green or simple green D? it's supposed to be aluminum safe (I've heard that regular simple green can corrode aluminum).
@@crankshaftgarage5722
I use regular SG, primarily on aluminum carbs. Followed by compressed air, no corrosion that I've noted.
That is SG diluted, 10:1.
Fahrenheit- water boils at 100 C. Thanks for the vid, good information to have.
Ah hah, only at sea level! :-)
What would happen if you got one of those paint can size B12 Chemtool dipping cleaners and filled the ultrasonic with the B12? Have you tried it?
I have a 15 liter model ordered. I have several carburetors to cleen and rebuild. I got to rebuild my gold wing carbs also. Im going to try simple green to start with.
Water + Vinegar + a bit of Soap will do!
great job!! I'm interested in purchasing one but didn't see if you put a link to the parts washer down below.
Great video maybe I missed it but I didn't hear you mention one important point. You should never place parts directly on the bottom of the tank. The parts should always be placed in the basket. You can do harm to the machine if you place parts directly on the bottom of the tank and not in the basket.
Even better if you can suspend the parts in the solution with wire across the top. You can leave the basket out that way too
In a shop I worked at we had an industrial parts cleaner. Basically it's an industrial dishwasher is all it is with sprayer from all directions with a tray that rotates. All we used was powder tide detergent. The water was heated for better cleaning and it was simply amazing how clean parts came out no matter how caked on the oil and dirt was. Best thing was with aluminum it looked as good as new no etching from harsh acidic chemicals. I used to put my tools in there every so often also easiest way to get them all cleaned up.
I've used Hot hot hot water with Pine-sol for carbs... works great
When I am cleaning removable brass jets I put them in a small Ziploc parts bag with apple cider vinegar with the rest of the carb and they come out like new parts. Now a question for you, do you know where I can find replacement throttle mechanisms for the 5hp Tecumseh snow blower engines?
Don! It's me Frank. Great video and very informative. Cruising CZcams and here you are!
oh hi Frank, I hope all is well with you!
@@donyboy73 All good thanks Don! Have you ever tried gasoline as a cleaner? I always have a tough time removing burnt on carbon from valves and pistons. I watched one of Steve's video and he swears by it but I do not see him cleaning stuff like valves etc. He fills a jar and floats it, which I already do for cleaning brass and rust. Thanks.
@@frankklenk519 yes I do use it for cleaning but not for certain parts
@@donyboy73 Ok so what do you use to clean baked on carbon from pistons and valves? What do you use to remove burnt on castor oil from a glow engine?
A number of years ago I was cleaning out a house and I acquired a large supply of Pine Sol cleaner left behind in the house. Out of curiosity I used a bit mixed with some distilled water on some carburetors. I've been doing that for about ten years now, and it has been working great. It's a cheap cleaning solution. I never use too much Pine Sol though. I saw another guy use straight Pine Sol with bad results. Not sure if you have Pine Sol up in Canada. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for the video.
yes we have it here, thanks for your tip
Nicely done video... Very informative. Pine sol is a good cleaner for this application I wonder if it along with Zep Orange would be good...
I just bought a 6L hopefully it works good it has 4.6 stars on Amazon. I have 3 different thing I need to clean carbs on
James Condon uses Harbor Freight Super degreaser and it does not darken the aluminum and does a good job cleaning carbs..
Man, I really need one!
I was just about to purchase an ultrasonic - really glad you posted this video. I am currently torn between a 10L and a 15L, I work on classic cars too, so having the ability to put a 4 barrel carb in there as well is a nice idea.
Also, greetings from Kalispell, Montana - we are basically neighbors!
Nice video! I have been using ultrasonic cleaners for a few years and think they work great. You are correct, bigger is better if you buy one. I boil my water on the stove before I fill the tank. A product called Simple Green seems to work for me as the added detergent. Your videos are always informative......keep up the great job of creating them! THANKS!
mark sullivan Simple Green is magic in a bottle. I love that stuff.
Simple Green is corrosive. You need to use Simple Green D, which is not.
Thank you