After playing for decades and deciding maybe I just don't have what it takes to improve much anymore.For the past month I have been getting back into the blues playing and adding some aeolian to the mix.Thank you for pointing out try just adding some target notes to land on and make my playing a little more tasteful.Thank you for effort in helping your fellow musicians.Looking forward to more aeolian stuff,Great playing brother!
Hi David, thanks for making this available! This makes a nice set of adjunct lessons to your guitar infusion course which I'm in the middle of right now.
Very intricate teaching skills, you had my sub at creative way that you've so generously shared your musicianship. You're a badass, in a completely eloquent way .......🗡
So im trying to learn the 5 positions of this mode, its the first time im trying to learn a mode and im have trouble connecting the patterns while soloing. Can you give me any advice that might help me play across all the patterns of the aeolian mode
In the key of G, use the Bb major scale. Aeolian is the 6th mode, G is the 6th in the key of Bb major. Likewise for the rest of the modes: Ionian is the 1st mode, G is the 1 in the key of G major so use G major scale; Dorian is the 2nd mode, G is the 2 in the key of F major so use the F major scale; Phygrian is the 3rd mode, G is the 3 in the key of Eb major, so use the Eb major scale, and so on: Lydian 4, D major scale, Mixolydian 5, C major scale, Aeolian we covered, Locrian 7, Ab major scale. It follows that you can use whatever position of the major scale.
For minor modes : I'd say first find the key in which people are playing (usually by listening to the bass). Once you have found it, you can start 'safe' by playing only minor pentatonic, then try to find the 2nd interval that sounds right. If you are totally guessing you have a 50% of getting it on the first attempt. if you realize it's the wrong one, just bend it so people dont notice ! So now you know which 2nd you should play. Repeat for the 6th and that's it !
ok, now waiting for the cool ones - phrygian, lydian, locrian - awwww! Cause the first one of the cool ones is just this, aeolian. Those before are just "meh" a bit :D
Still not sure how it is you could just use Minor Pentatonic instead of Major pentatonic in the Mixolydian video ... ? Was that only because the backing track you had there didn't include the (major) third? You couldn't do that over a full 7 chord (with a major 3rd), right?
There was a major third in the backing track. The thing is, the way the listeners perceive musical clashes (essentially, dissonances) depends on the overall aesthetics of the musical piece and on the listeners' own cultural background and previous exposure to that particular type of clashes. Minor pentatonic over a dominant seventh chord (which is the root chord in mixolydian) is one of the basic musical devices in blues - it is what gives blues its bite, instability and ambiguous mood (major harmonically, minor melodically). The famous "Hendrix chord" - E7#9, or 7-6-7-8 on strings A-D-G-B - utilises exactly that. If you, as a listener, have already been exposed to this type of dissonance and to the overall blues aesthetics, you no longer perceive it as unpleasant - more like spicy. However, it is not always that your musical piece (or a particular phrase within it) asks for that extra spice, and in this case sticking to the key may be the best option.
David Wallimann that is what I’m struggling with. If I’m playing over e key in e mixolydian I can play e shape mixolydian at open or twelfth fret. And then after e shape is d shape for another e chord. Question is what do I do if I’m playing over the II? It’s F# right? So do I just play F# mixolydian? Or the one that comes after mixolydian? Or just F# arpeggio or do I just continue in E mixolydian? Or E in a different mode equivalent to F# mixolydian? I’ve seen you talk about this before but can’t find the video. You ended up playing E in different modes instead of playing in different notes
No they're not. They're for the person who wants to learn them and apply to his practice. But there are many ways to skin a cat. For instance, if you simply pick up the guitar and simply play with it every day (and I mean every day) for hours until you become obsessed, this shit just happens naturally. Anyway, I am not saying modes are not useful and people don't need them. I'm just saying some people are not wired to follow rules.
Advocateur Advocateur - I understand what you're saying, but isn't the person who, say, discovers modes on his own without knowing that they're modes in effect still following the "rules"? The only difference I can see is that he doesn't really know what he's doing whereas the person who understands "this shit" does. Which one do you think will make the greater progress faster?
6u174r808 no you don't have to practice minor pentatonic scale plus add second and 6th degree of that scale and learn that up and down the neck to create a solo over a chord progressions. You don't have to follow a mode because someone decided to call them that. Hell I could decide to playa a major 7 rather than a flat seven when playing and that does not mean I am playing wrong because am not following mixoshitian to play the blues and thus I'm playing it wrong because the rule says I have to play flat 7 for that mode. Now this dude is saying he helps you to 'find your own sound and create your own music story' but then isn't that paradoxical if i am obliged to follow rules. Then I'm creating the sound of the modes, not my own sound. Why not let your ear to guide you. Hell I can decide to play a 9 note scale if I liked it and create chords from that scale which are not root plus 3D plus 5th, but root and some other degree of ire in that scale. Then solo over the positions of these newly invented chords all over the neck. Does that mean I am playing wrong because my sound does not conform to the modes everyone says you must learn? I don't think so. In my original message I said you need to practice all day every. Practice what you enjoy. Learn the songs you like by ear. Don't give up. Do this and you might end up creating your own music story. Play modes up and down is still cool and then you can use that too. But modes are not for everyone in the sense that you don't have to learn them to create your own music story because that is the only way to solo with different sounds over a chord progression.
What a talent this guy has for explaining these things in a simple meaningful way. Thank you David.
Yes, best on the net I reckon.
After playing for decades and deciding maybe I just don't have what it takes to improve much anymore.For the past month I have been getting back into the blues playing and adding some aeolian to the mix.Thank you for pointing out try just adding some target notes to land on and make my playing a little more tasteful.Thank you for effort in helping your fellow musicians.Looking forward to more aeolian stuff,Great playing brother!
mar stephen stephen the same goes for me! I’ve been thinking I was alone.
I cannot tell you how much I've learned from this series! Thank you!!!
Hi David, thanks for making this available! This makes a nice set of adjunct lessons to your guitar infusion course which I'm in the middle of right now.
unite to protect the modes
Great lesson. Thanks
Very intricate teaching skills, you had my sub at creative way that you've so generously shared your musicianship. You're a badass, in a completely eloquent way .......🗡
Salut David ! très instructif ces vidéos sur les modes et surtout très bien simplifiés . Un salut du Québec ! 👍🏻
Thank you, David. Great stuff my friend.
Well done sir!
So im trying to learn the 5 positions of this mode, its the first time im trying to learn a mode and im have trouble connecting the patterns while soloing. Can you give me any advice that might help me play across all the patterns of the aeolian mode
In the key of G, use the Bb major scale. Aeolian is the 6th mode, G is the 6th in the key of Bb major. Likewise for the rest of the modes: Ionian is the 1st mode, G is the 1 in the key of G major so use G major scale; Dorian is the 2nd mode, G is the 2 in the key of F major so use the F major scale; Phygrian is the 3rd mode, G is the 3 in the key of Eb major, so use the Eb major scale, and so on: Lydian 4, D major scale, Mixolydian 5, C major scale, Aeolian we covered, Locrian 7, Ab major scale. It follows that you can use whatever position of the major scale.
this is sick!
What Android App do you recommend to use with your backing tracks? ...Waves Seattle
Thats a great backing track!!
Great Job
You say to join the Aeolian Mode people are playing..how do you know what mode they are playing to join in with what mode?..thanks great lesson..
For minor modes :
I'd say first find the key in which people are playing (usually by listening to the bass). Once you have found it, you can start 'safe' by playing only minor pentatonic, then try to find the 2nd interval that sounds right.
If you are totally guessing you have a 50% of getting it on the first attempt. if you realize it's the wrong one, just bend it so people dont notice ! So now you know which 2nd you should play. Repeat for the 6th and that's it !
Develop an ear for recognizing what the modes sound like. May be easier said than done, but it can be done.
How do we find which mode suits a particular piece?
Lovely
love it
So coooolllllllll
ok, now waiting for the cool ones - phrygian, lydian, locrian - awwww! Cause the first one of the cool ones is just this, aeolian. Those before are just "meh" a bit :D
Still not sure how it is you could just use Minor Pentatonic instead of Major pentatonic in the Mixolydian video ... ?
Was that only because the backing track you had there didn't include the (major) third?
You couldn't do that over a full 7 chord (with a major 3rd), right?
There was a major third in the backing track. The thing is, the way the listeners perceive musical clashes (essentially, dissonances) depends on the overall aesthetics of the musical piece and on the listeners' own cultural background and previous exposure to that particular type of clashes. Minor pentatonic over a dominant seventh chord (which is the root chord in mixolydian) is one of the basic musical devices in blues - it is what gives blues its bite, instability and ambiguous mood (major harmonically, minor melodically). The famous "Hendrix chord" - E7#9, or 7-6-7-8 on strings A-D-G-B - utilises exactly that. If you, as a listener, have already been exposed to this type of dissonance and to the overall blues aesthetics, you no longer perceive it as unpleasant - more like spicy. However, it is not always that your musical piece (or a particular phrase within it) asks for that extra spice, and in this case sticking to the key may be the best option.
Thank you very much, Ilia, for taking the time to respond, and for your clear explanation. Much appreciated, indeed! Cheers, Be well! K
so aeolian mode is that A minor penatonic scale plus the minor scale second and sixth? sorry for the stupud question
Not a stupid question at all! Yes, Aeolian is a minor pentatonic with a 2nd and minor 6th!
@@Wallimann thank you very much
Do you use the other caged shapes for modal scale shapes?
Yep! :)
David Wallimann that is what I’m struggling with. If I’m playing over e key in e mixolydian I can play e shape mixolydian at open or twelfth fret. And then after e shape is d shape for another e chord. Question is what do I do if I’m playing over the II? It’s F# right? So do I just play F# mixolydian? Or the one that comes after mixolydian? Or just F# arpeggio or do I just continue in E mixolydian? Or E in a different mode equivalent to F# mixolydian? I’ve seen you talk about this before but can’t find the video. You ended up playing E in different modes instead of playing in different notes
Talk to much!!!!
Modes are not for everyone
They really are.
No they're not. They're for the person who wants to learn them and apply to his practice. But there are many ways to skin a cat.
For instance, if you simply pick up the guitar and simply play with it every day (and I mean every day) for hours until you become obsessed, this shit just happens naturally.
Anyway, I am not saying modes are not useful and people don't need them. I'm just saying some people are not wired to follow rules.
Advocateur Advocateur - I understand what you're saying, but isn't the person who, say, discovers modes on his own without knowing that they're modes in effect still following the "rules"? The only difference I can see is that he doesn't really know what he's doing whereas the person who understands "this shit" does. Which one do you think will make the greater progress faster?
Shit doesn't just happen naturally. You have to practice shit.
6u174r808 no you don't have to practice minor pentatonic scale plus add second and 6th degree of that scale and learn that up and down the neck to create a solo over a chord progressions.
You don't have to follow a mode because someone decided to call them that. Hell I could decide to playa a major 7 rather than a flat seven when playing and that does not mean I am playing wrong because am not following mixoshitian to play the blues and thus I'm playing it wrong because the rule says I have to play flat 7 for that mode.
Now this dude is saying he helps you to 'find your own sound and create your own music story' but then isn't that paradoxical if i am obliged to follow rules. Then I'm creating the sound of the modes, not my own sound.
Why not let your ear to guide you. Hell I can decide to play a 9 note scale if I liked it and create chords from that scale which are not root plus 3D plus 5th, but root and some other degree of ire in that scale. Then solo over the positions of these newly invented chords all over the neck. Does that mean I am playing wrong because my sound does not conform to the modes everyone says you must learn? I don't think so.
In my original message I said you need to practice all day every. Practice what you enjoy. Learn the songs you like by ear. Don't give up. Do this and you might end up creating your own music story. Play modes up and down is still cool and then you can use that too. But modes are not for everyone in the sense that you don't have to learn them to create your own music story because that is the only way to solo with different sounds over a chord progression.
Upside down guitar