Bad Gear - Roland R-8 - End of an Era

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    Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Roland R-8 Human Rhythm Composer. Was this vintage rhythm rompler the last great Roland drum machine and mark the end of an era.
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro tune
    01:13 Overview Roland R8
    05:13 Hate
    05:38 Jam 1
    06:34 Jam 2
    07:26 Finale
    08:00 Verdict
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  • @AudioPilz
    @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +39

    Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel*
    Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz

    • @jukesjointOG
      @jukesjointOG Před 2 lety

      Always happy to be reminded that it’s Friday, when your new episode drops!

    • @roberthiggins7930
      @roberthiggins7930 Před 2 lety +2

      You should do the Yamaha rx11 next!

    • @jukesjointOG
      @jukesjointOG Před 2 lety

      @@roberthiggins7930 Ooo, yes, I second that emotion...

    • @gonzinigonz
      @gonzinigonz Před 2 lety

      @@roberthiggins7930 Classic!

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic Před 2 lety +215

    I was given an R-5 but it's missing that bizarre power cable. Discovering the replacements are £60 I've made drum sounds by slapping my forhead in shock, so it worked out.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +30

      Nice technique! Have you tried alligator clamps?

    • @Gin-toki
      @Gin-toki Před 2 lety +13

      Thats funny, a cousin of mine found one years ago in a dumpster, missing its power supply.
      We could at that time not find any replacement for it so I modified the unit by removing the weird power socket and replaced it with something more common and useable. I also modified the power circuitry inside the unit a bit to also be simpler.
      Sadly my cousin has lost the power supply I made him, so I have it at my home to make him a new one.

    • @phfatband
      @phfatband Před 2 lety +4

      The power supply or the cable? If it's just the cable, replace the power connector inside the unit. 5$ on a bad day and historically doesn't hurt the value of a unit. If it's the power supply then its on you to make a call...

    • @BosleyStarr
      @BosleyStarr Před 2 lety +7

      Apparently you can adapt an old PC power supply but need to do some hacking because the connector's a bit unique. I bought a relatively cheap R5 a few years ago but but my girlfriend's dog pissed on the power supply for some reason and I haven't tested it since. Time to bite the bullet and plug it in I suppose.

    • @josebritoneto
      @josebritoneto Před 2 lety +5

      I bet a subscriber with some electronic knowledge would happily make that for you for free.

  • @skoog7091
    @skoog7091 Před 2 lety +121

    Makes me remember when we recorded some punk songs in high school and we used triggers to the R8 because we were to lazy to mic the drums.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +26

      Nothing wrong with that;)

    • @michelvondenhoff9673
      @michelvondenhoff9673 Před 2 lety +13

      Would sound great on Big Black Kerosene.

    • @lancepage1914
      @lancepage1914 Před 2 lety +13

      Nearly every metal band you could think of have done this since the late 80's let alone most other genres. If the Pros do it, you're on the right track IMO.

    • @EFFbriskethead
      @EFFbriskethead Před 2 lety

      Not a bd idea

    • @reginaldbowls7180
      @reginaldbowls7180 Před 2 lety +1

      Too lazy or broke to afford good sounding mic’s and drums? I was the former. :)

  • @ahhhhh2334
    @ahhhhh2334 Před 2 lety +104

    The jams in this one are absolutely wicked

  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog Před 2 lety +24

    My god, this is top tier stuff. Thank you 💪

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +4

      Hey Underdogs, nice to have you around!!!

  • @t3hjnz
    @t3hjnz Před 2 lety +29

    Your demo of the features basically re-created several of the tracks from Ministry's album Twitch. I'd often wondered where those percussion sounds came from, and now I _definitely_ know. This is great as always, Florian!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +14

      Thanks! Big Ministry fan here

    • @t3hjnz
      @t3hjnz Před 2 lety +1

      @@AudioPilz here, too. :D

    • @ryn_pail
      @ryn_pail Před 2 lety +1

      I have the R8 for recreating some of my favorite vintage industrial rock sounds, but if Twitch era Ministry is what you're after then the Kawai R100 is what you're looking for. It's THE sound of WaxTrax.
      czcams.com/video/R5myTDqDQfEo/video.html
      czcams.com/video/8I9CsCCoYMU/video.html

    • @erikt211
      @erikt211 Před 2 lety +6

      That album was recorded in 1985 though, a few years before this drum machine came out. The sounds are similar but I think they used a Fairlight CMI IIx

  • @WilmarBoer
    @WilmarBoer Před 2 lety +57

    Nice! I worked on this one together with a Roland D70 (programming tones in voices in presets in performances or whatever the crazy workflow of the D70 was). Try to get a D70, DJ70 , MC50, R8 and M24E together for a True Digital Roland Linear Arithmetic Eighties Badgear Sequenced Song that's ticking all the boxes!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      Nice!!!

    • @bisheejom
      @bisheejom Před 2 lety +3

      You know you've made it when the actual guys who made the product comments on your videos.

  • @respectfulremastersbymetal8336

    Jesus, that thing is flat out AWESOME.
    Side note, your final jam on this one straight up gave me stank face. Thanks for the awesome jams yet again.

  • @michelvondenhoff9673
    @michelvondenhoff9673 Před 2 lety +15

    I remember the R8 being pretty sought after in the 90s. I settled for a Boss DR660 with 808 and 909 sounds.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Not a bad choice!

    • @t0x0n1x
      @t0x0n1x Před 2 měsíci +1

      A lot of us did :| The DR660 and the DR5 were meant for guitar players who can't put up with drummers. I shoulda got the ASR-X at the time, but I think it was kinda pricy compared to the cheap boss stuff. Some people shelled out for the MC-303 unfortunately for them.

  • @davesandison2588
    @davesandison2588 Před 2 lety +4

    I like how you take the time to respond to people who comment your videos. Respect!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Always a pleasure, thanks!!!

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 Před 2 lety +25

    I worked at a music store when these came out. I loved the huge (80s, but didn't realize that at the time) drum sounds. The pads were yucky plastic, but the textured case was something else. They were the top-tier drum machines we'd sell, or more realistically, try to sell, back then.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +4

      I know, these were quite costly

  • @maxadocious
    @maxadocious Před 2 lety +5

    i read that Prince (RIP) used this drum machine on many classic track. listening to the samples in this vid confirms this for me.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +5

      I thought he was more of a Linn guy. I have to check it out, thanks for posting!

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden Před 2 lety +5

      Maybe Gett Off!

    • @avace917
      @avace917 Před 11 dny

      That's a first. The year this came out was when the Batman album dropped. Most of his classics had been released by them. As was stated already, the Linn LM1 was the drum machine he used the most. Some of the samples sound similar. That could be what the person heard that told you that or they could be talking about later albums like Diamonds and Pearls or the Symbol Album

    • @maxadocious
      @maxadocious Před 10 dny

      @@avace917 i consider his 90s name-change-era stuff to be classic, but I am also a big fan...
      i hear what you're saying, most of the most famous prince tracks definitely use Linn's stuff.

  • @thesequencer4971
    @thesequencer4971 Před 2 lety +8

    At SAE Frankfurt, a few years ago, we had a funny ProgRock teacher. He did a few short drum programming lessons on an Roland R8, as final exam, we had to program a 7minutes ProgRock drum session with lots of time changes, fills ect "Xanadu" from Rush by Sheet haha. ..what a nightmare, but the R8 Sounds really Realastic like Rushs Drummer Neil Peart.....ProgRockers Dream Drum Machine 🎸🦄

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Isn't that a bit...mean;)

    • @thesequencer4971
      @thesequencer4971 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AudioPilz Haha that was poor ProgRock pain...but Rushs Xanadu still sounds great today and R8 could handle it...cheers

    • @cdk2968
      @cdk2968 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Right, great machine for "complex stuff" like Prog and Fusion - the electro dance stuff people usually make with it barely scratches the surface of what this thing is capable of!

  • @BuddhaPhi
    @BuddhaPhi Před 2 lety +4

    This is my favorite YoutTube channel. Thanks again Florian! Funny story: Back in the early 90s my roommate worked at a music store and was able to borrow gear occasionally. One day he brings home this expanded Roland R-8 (with RAM and 909 cards) and I loved it. I'd heard Prince was using one around that time and the machine sounded great. I had to have one. With the R-8, my Kawai SX-210 analog synth, a loaner Ensoniq EPS-16+, a crappy mixer and an older Tascam Portastudio 4-track we were convinced we were gonna make the next hip-hop or R&B masterpiece. I told my roomie as soon as he brought the R-8 back to the store I was going buy it with my savings money since the store was selling it dirt cheap (maybe $250 US). He returned it so I went to the store after a couple days and found out that someone stole the damn thing from the store the night before. I was so mad. I was convinced maybe my roomie was the thief (pawned it for rent money?) and it took a couple months of me giving him the side-eye while he denied stealing it before I believed him. lol.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! Wow, great 90s setup!

  • @InnerVisions68
    @InnerVisions68 Před 2 lety +8

    Man, I miss my R-8 MkII. I loved that drum machine. Great piece of gear.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      MK2 is the one to get

    • @RogerBrenon
      @RogerBrenon Před rokem +1

      @@AudioPilz Actually I looked into what Espen craft said about the R8 vs. The MKii and he's right. Roland used cheaper components in the MKii to balance out the higher cost of putting a few more samples in it and thus it doesn't have the same quality of sound as the original R8 had. Better to have original R8 with cards.

  • @raistaparta
    @raistaparta Před 2 lety +12

    That R8 + TB-3 pairing was unexpectedly great!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      Surprised me too!

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 Před 2 lety +3

      It sounds like some tracks by Da Fresh or Donald Glaude - that hyped&slammin mid-90s northwestern USA club-rave house vibe

  • @Individual_two
    @Individual_two Před 2 lety +23

    Whoa! Your R-8 rocked my Focal monitors - Awesome! I should know better than to get one of these '80's relics, but that drum sound simply stuns. Love your jams, too!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks! Certainly fun on some Focals!

    • @hadamana
      @hadamana Před 2 lety +1

      ngl, I kinda want one of these now, to compliment my SC-88

  • @thefool2007
    @thefool2007 Před rokem +3

    Your videos really help with questions about the products while showcasing them in the best possible light. It’s cool how you manage to find the best features of the low-rated gear you review. It’s also cool
    When you find an overlooked diamond in the rough. All this is peppered with good humor, expertise in operation, and stellar music. So much art is packed into these fun episodes. One of my favorite channels on CZcams.

  • @8-BitHeart79
    @8-BitHeart79 Před 2 lety +21

    The R8 was also used in A LOT of industrial music from Front 242,Skinny Puppy, and even Leather Strip if I recall correctly. 1984-1998 was one heck of a time for music. So many changes, so little time…

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      True that!

    • @BluePlanetMedia
      @BluePlanetMedia Před 2 lety +1

      No, That was Kawai R-50 and R-100. Aka "Wax Trax in a box"

    • @chriswareham
      @chriswareham Před 2 lety +6

      @@BluePlanetMedia Allegedly it was Fairlight samples that just happened to sound similar to the "electronic" drum set for the Kawai drum machines. The Wax Trax studio had a Fairlight thanks to Al Jourgensen of Ministry wanting one, and he layered the library drum samples with his own and those of other people he worked with like On-U Sound guys (Adrian Sherwood and Keith LeBlanc).

    • @ChiefExecutiveOrbiter
      @ChiefExecutiveOrbiter Před 2 lety +2

      And Autechre for sure. maybe Beumont Hannant too

    • @slipknotboy555
      @slipknotboy555 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BluePlanetMedia 1. It can be (and is) true for more than one drum machine
      2. There's much more to industrial than Wax Trax stuff
      Also, I bought an R-100 years ago because it was recommended for industrial. Was frustrated to then find out people really meant the R-50E or R-100 with R-50E sounds (though people would just say R-100). It's alright, but bulky, and takes up space. Kinda wish I'd just downloaded samples.

  • @DJPhantomRage
    @DJPhantomRage Před 2 lety +2

    Definitely love your show and always get excited when I see a new one pop up in the notifications.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Happy to hear that, thanks!

  • @ChipRobertsOfficial
    @ChipRobertsOfficial Před 2 lety +7

    The R8 is probably my favorite drum machine ever made? It has literally everything I would ever want in it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      It certainly is a legendary piece of kit

  • @gwugluud
    @gwugluud Před rokem +3

    I gave mine away circa 2000ish. A couple of years ago I started missing it for some reason. When I bought it, I was tracking with a Yamaha 4-track cassette.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před rokem +2

      Yeah, 2000 was around the time it was least desired

    • @gwugluud
      @gwugluud Před rokem +1

      @@AudioPilz Just a couple of pointless comments, lol. I’m remembering that I didn’t think it was “human “ at all, but I still liked it. Also, a real hardware drum machine, unlike the VSTs now, will…drum roll… Actually print to a track. 🙄

  • @jamesm601
    @jamesm601 Před 2 lety +9

    I was 18 in 1989. I spent $450 on a Roland R-5. $450 was all I had in the world and I spent it on a Roland R-5. Anyway, I loved that little thing. It had a bass guitar sample on it that you could map across the pads and write little songs. I programmed Yes's Owner of a Lonely Heart in its entirety. It must have taken me like... 40 hours. Amazing.
    I think I just figured out why I didn't have a girlfriend in 1989.

  • @JesperTvedegaard
    @JesperTvedegaard Před 2 lety +4

    I loved my R8, the one of all my drum machines I miss the most. The pads were absolutely killer, and those kicks made my speakers dance! Coupled it with a Juno 106 for sequenced bass fun 😎

  • @tatsuhirosato8646
    @tatsuhirosato8646 Před 2 lety +15

    I heard the sound of so many industrial/electronic songs that I listened to in my teens come out of that thing. I would have ordered one off reverb already if it wasn't going for over $400.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +5

      They can be had much cheaper after some negotiation;)

    • @SirRigbyBaconKaiser
      @SirRigbyBaconKaiser Před 2 lety +3

      Depending on what you want to do you could look at alternatives. Like the R5 and R8-m

    • @RunOfTheHind
      @RunOfTheHind Před 2 lety +1

      Was used by NIN, indeed.

  • @towmotornoises
    @towmotornoises Před 2 lety +6

    That intro in that jam was BAD ASS.

  • @kneonic
    @kneonic Před 2 lety +2

    Great video, love how that TB-3 keeps showing up!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      It has become one of my favorite synths!

  • @DerDanko
    @DerDanko Před měsícem +1

    Fredrik Thordendal in Meshuggah used the R8 for making all his demos, later to be performed on drums by Tomas Haake. This was before they collaborated on developing the Toontrack DFH. Eventually, Fredrik got so good at emulating Haake that there are actually some released tracks where they kept the programmed DFH demo drums and at the time it seems most people never realised this. However, this all started with the R8.

  • @Scyber_Official
    @Scyber_Official Před 2 lety +8

    That snare SLAMS.
    And the first jam was killer! 🤘😎

  • @Rompler_Rocco
    @Rompler_Rocco Před 2 lety +3

    So much excellence! The biggest takeaway?
    Florian bought an ADAT !! 🕺💃

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you!!! That ADAT isn't so bad as an AD/DA converter

  • @darbydust9934
    @darbydust9934 Před 2 lety +1

    Great episode!! all the jams sounded killer

  • @TheFatdust
    @TheFatdust Před 2 lety +2

    best music so far!! well done sir, love it

  • @strelokknoize
    @strelokknoize Před 2 lety +8

    This is pretty rare isn't it? I've never ever heard about it.
    Your show turns into a history channel. Every friday I feel a bit more educated. You sir, are the Giorgio Tsoukalos of gear!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +6

      They sold quite a lot of these and they're all over many great records but it isn't one of the "sexy" TRs

    • @patrickg.259
      @patrickg.259 Před 2 lety +7

      They are not rare at all. The later MK2 and the R5 though pretty much are.

    • @ryanjay6241
      @ryanjay6241 Před 2 lety +2

      Last time I checked (years ago?) at least in North America they're all over eBay and sell for peanuts. It looks like "now" they go for $400 but pretty much all "vintage gear" has 2-4x in price in the last 4 years. I remember when people were getting rid of these for like $120 US.

  • @Klangraum
    @Klangraum Před 2 lety +14

    With no doubt, people would buy this thing if they would produce it today with extra memory and USB. I would buy it. Great 80ies soundtrack!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks!

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 Před 2 lety +4

      If Roland had asked me, I'd have led the entire Boutique range's debut with a micro R8 and marketed the shit out of it to hip-hoppers as well.
      I'm surprised they haven't done anything like it in any hardware yet. Not everybody wants to spend time sampling or VST-ing - we just want to plug in and go.

    • @Klangraum
      @Klangraum Před 2 lety +6

      ​@@shaft9000 For me, it's all about this Japanese industrial design. It's just like when you buy fresh bread from the bakery, it just fits in with any time.

    • @LeadingMotive
      @LeadingMotive Před 2 lety +2

      Yes! Imagine if Roland had added the R8's soundsets to their TR8-s. That would have been brilliant since it contains almost everything else already.

  • @morten1
    @morten1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I had this in the mid 90s and I miss it
    It was so good, electro in the fat warm organic way and mixed very well within the music

  • @djGreenALERT
    @djGreenALERT Před 2 měsíci +2

    At the time I couldn't afford the R8, so I bought a R5 which I still have to this day. and yes, with the original power supply still working! I realise it has many limitations, but there is just something special it will always have that simply cannot be replaced with a VST.. Nostalgia.

  • @natenussey6282
    @natenussey6282 Před 2 lety +4

    I taught myself how to program this thing when I was 12. There was no manual. My dad was borrowing it from his guitar player. I can't believe these "hard to program" comments.

  • @nobel11
    @nobel11 Před 2 lety +4

    Very nice. Especially enjoyed that 80s Anime OST bit at the end. I've never actually used the R8, but I've loaded its sounds in a lot of samplers over the years.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! These sounds are non-timeless classics;)

  • @axymoulm
    @axymoulm Před 6 měsíci +2

    The R-8 click is probably one more electronic sound on that machine worth mentioning as it got popular as rhythm element. You can hear it on „Da Rockwilder“ by Method Man Redman (though Rockwilder used the sample of it which is contained in the stock Roland JV/XV library as „R8 Click“).

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thanks for the heads up!!!

  • @monkem
    @monkem Před 2 lety +1

    Very entertraining, always fun to watch a new episode :)

  • @chinossynthesizer705
    @chinossynthesizer705 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Esoteric curley used this drum machine for techno music programming with tr-808 and tr-909 cards he was crazy good.

  • @nkozi
    @nkozi Před 2 lety +6

    This thing sounds great and its capabilities clearly place it ahead of its time in many respects. Love that snare and I'm sure I've heard it on a few dozen classic J-Pop records.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Nice! Gotta listen to J-pop more

  • @lancepage1914
    @lancepage1914 Před 2 lety +2

    I love the drum samples on this era Roland/BOSS romplers. I still use them a lot in my Digitakt, they sound very punchy and they are good base for mangling.
    As always great video and audio production and a wicked sense of humour. Once again you made my day AudioPilz.

  • @MilliganVision
    @MilliganVision Před 2 lety +1

    I love your show! Thank you!

  • @ericobrocki5850
    @ericobrocki5850 Před 2 lety +4

    At 3:35, it sounds like you were on track to recreate the intro/outro to Smashing Pumpkins's 1979 lol. Lovely content as always!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks! That one's on Autechre records too;)

    • @iblamesummers
      @iblamesummers Před 2 lety

      @@AudioPilz Exactly circa "Incunabula"...

  • @adrianwright9418
    @adrianwright9418 Před 2 lety +11

    That final song was amazing! I would love a full track!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks! Full tracks as usual on my Patreon (end of plug;)

  • @artisan002
    @artisan002 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice timing. An artist started following me on Instagram the other day. And in his page, he has a jam session that includes an R-8.

  • @MrBrunoRenee
    @MrBrunoRenee Před 2 lety +1

    super cool video. thanks om mor time!

  • @Archonagon
    @Archonagon Před 2 lety +8

    I really enjoy the sounds this thing produces, and I'm not a fan of having a piece of hardware that just does drums. Great episode.

  • @DjTroublemaker
    @DjTroublemaker Před 2 lety +4

    I loved mine. I used it on so many tracks. I even credited as a band member. Drums by Roland. I even used it to trigger basslines on my keyboards like a sequencer!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Nice!

    • @TayWoode
      @TayWoode Před 2 měsíci

      Haha like when PWL always used to say Drums by A. Linn on the back of their records 😂

  • @MrTelecasterPignose
    @MrTelecasterPignose Před 2 lety +1

    This channel is the reason I got a Roland TB3. My favorite synth so far

  • @brainbox9219
    @brainbox9219 Před 2 lety +1

    Kinda like how this sounds tbh, great video 🤟🏾

  • @aliensporebomb
    @aliensporebomb Před 3 měsíci +3

    Meanwhile I used an R-5 to do entire album projects: drums, bass, synth sounds, melody lines. You name it.

    • @geet77777
      @geet77777 Před měsícem

      what can you say about the R-5? Its blowing my mind how all of this gear tat was literally thrown in the trash or sold for $10 during the 2000s is suddenly crazy overpriced on reverb suddenly. None of it is even rare, people are just greedy. I'm afraid to mention any old gear that I likw because anyone who reeds the comment and has one will certainly list it for $600 over its value on FeeVerb. any thoughts about the R-5? ive been using ableton with a push controller because I was talked into it and I truly hate it.

  • @dr-zieg
    @dr-zieg Před 2 lety +3

    Damn that 80's anime OST was hella dope! Thanks again bro for subbing my channel :D

  • @attizzoso
    @attizzoso Před 2 lety +1

    4:06 I did the Jimi Hendrix meme! Proud to be in one of your videos

  • @luigidaniellmusic
    @luigidaniellmusic Před 2 lety +1

    master piece BRO !!!

  • @dykodesigns
    @dykodesigns Před 2 lety +9

    Dang, that thing sounds great. It would blend well with a Korg M1 or Wavestation to make some early 90’s industrial style music. Also it comes in stylish black.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Agreed! Great combination!

    • @ryanjay6241
      @ryanjay6241 Před 2 lety

      The Wavestation certainly had some unique sounds :)

    • @pearcaravel
      @pearcaravel Před 2 lety +1

      that's what I'm thinking. Kawai K1, even

    • @twiff3rino28
      @twiff3rino28 Před 2 lety

      @@pearcaravel ...and Ensoniq SQ-80

  • @mycosys
    @mycosys Před 2 lety +9

    The Frequency Shift Keying sync didnt seem complicated - it just records an FSK timecode to one track of a Multitrack Tape Recorder to let the MTR act as a timecode master for the setup, much like any other timecode

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks for the clarification!

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee Před 2 lety

      If you'd only replaced the phrase "frequency shift keying" with something Earthlings would say, such as "regular old pulses", then your explanation would be actually understandable. Everything else you write makes sense. Frequency Shift Keying sounds too much like Dilithium Crystals or Quantum Reiki. Even if you'd said "something like a tape bias track" I might have been able to access some distant foggy memories, but "frequency shift keying" still leaves me looking like a deer in headlights.
      However, I'm not asking you to explain further, unless it's easy to do for other readers' sake. I'll be checking wiki in the meantime, and probably will have found more about FSK, before you even read this.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz Před 2 lety

      @@GizzyDillespee Frequency Shift Keying is basically a pattern of tones of different pitch that the computer can recognise, haha.

  • @goosemansell
    @goosemansell Před 2 lety +1

    I was given one of these for free by the music department at my secondary school. It had sat in its box in their loft storage for years along with a D-20 (which they gave me too - being a teacher's pet pays in the end!). To a 15 year old kid, this thing was a treasure trove. Great video!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! You had nice gear at school;)

  • @arijr71
    @arijr71 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the memory lane! I've owned a few Roland drumboxes including R8 and R8Mk2 (R8 + all sound cards built in). In dance genres the thing was those specific sound cards specifically Electronic and Dance which contained 808, 909, CR78 etc. The user interface was/is really snappy to create beats for electronic/house/contemporary music so they were popular. Then came the era of MPCs and such and beat boxes faded away as bigger phenomena.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Yeah, these ROM cards are really nice!

  • @Thelostrune
    @Thelostrune Před 2 lety +4

    The drum samples that defined a whole generation of video game music

  • @EFFbriskethead
    @EFFbriskethead Před 2 lety +3

    Surprised how capable this machine is. Wow it was very advanced for its time. I’m talking about the ability to do fills, I bet you put some time into figuring that out as you always do!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Yup, this one was a little more challenging

  • @DestroyER82
    @DestroyER82 Před 2 lety +1

    Those samples are so well selected and crafted. Really liking the sound. With such limited memory in that era, companies had to really dig for the best possible samples available. If I ll see one for reasonable $ I ll definitely get it (or rack version).
    Thank you, all the best!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching, rack version is recommended!

  • @andersb80
    @andersb80 Před 2 lety +1

    Great tune at the end! I want that as a full song 🙂

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! Full tracks are available on my Patreon;)

  • @urfavoritehumanbean879
    @urfavoritehumanbean879 Před 2 lety +23

    The R-8 is the M1 of drum machines: a digital beast. Also one of the few you can basically compose entire tracks on (FFS, the DEMOS!!!) thanks to the pitch values and instrument cards. Still can't get why it's only getting a cult following _now._

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      I think that, with the necessary experience, you're faster than with a computer but nostalgia certainly plays a role

    • @raistaparta
      @raistaparta Před 2 lety +6

      It isn’t. It’s had cult status for ages. Just very obscure until now. Seriously, this and the Yamaha RY-30 are probably the most loved digital drum machines if you look in the right places on the internet, especially since Alesis HR-16 prices shot up.

    • @marczellm
      @marczellm Před 2 lety +1

      That demo

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 Před 2 lety +1

      @@raistaparta Cult status, but a rather small cult too busy banging out tunes to sing its praises in the forumverse. :D

    • @raistaparta
      @raistaparta Před 2 lety

      @@mrz80 you got that right! 😂

  • @HousePlantBand
    @HousePlantBand Před 2 lety +3

    damn i wont be able to sleep tonight knowing that snare sound exists

  • @Manjarow
    @Manjarow Před 2 lety +1

    Your video editing skills are priceless

  • @MistabishiTV
    @MistabishiTV Před 2 lety +1

    Ugh i love this channel.

    • @user82938
      @user82938 Před 2 lety

      Funny, I was just listening to old EMX-1 videos of yours the other day. They still rip :)

  • @energycsdx
    @energycsdx Před 2 lety +17

    R8 is signature autechre gear, used on many tracks

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +4

      Just pushed play on Crystel - Artificial Intelligence

    • @drewnosky5892
      @drewnosky5892 Před 2 lety +2

      Came here to say this! I basically check every episode since the stylus thingy (I forgot the name)

    • @user82938
      @user82938 Před 2 lety +3

      Came here to say this as well :)

    • @franciscoraupp
      @franciscoraupp Před 2 lety +3

      I was going to say the same lol

    • @0v_x0
      @0v_x0 Před rokem

      Anthony Manning has entered the chat

  • @modernmusician3346
    @modernmusician3346 Před 2 lety +5

    Poly aftertouch? Map this to a keyboard-style melodic synth and go to town 👍

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      ...you might get carpal tunnel syndrome tho;)

  • @Danielbarbus
    @Danielbarbus Před 2 lety +1

    Safe to say, I´m impressed by your musical versatility!

  • @querpmuerp
    @querpmuerp Před 2 lety +1

    The cyberpunk anime jam just killed it! Awesome channel!

  • @djcoolcliff
    @djcoolcliff Před 2 lety +3

    First Drum machine that I saw in a store!!!! It’s literally cost the same price as the Lugwig Rockets that I was purchasing at the time!!!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Yup, that one was big bucks back then

  • @stephpicher
    @stephpicher Před 2 lety +3

    "Welcome to gooooood gear!"

  • @Pheonix0114
    @Pheonix0114 Před 2 lety +2

    I'll never get tired of TB-3 acid jams either!

  • @PanHoover882
    @PanHoover882 Před 2 lety +1

    I just bought one of these in January, and I am pleased with it.

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden Před 2 lety +3

    I reckon if this unit had the ability to do sampling back in '89, this would've been a MPC killer! This came out just after the MPC60, and seems influenced by it. 16 pads, chromatic sample playing, good sequencer, decent song mode. But yes, I agree about the hard, unforgiving "carpal tunnel inducing pads!".
    I think a lot of the samples are really good though, especially the cymbals! I still use these samples in Ableton despite having a LOT of choice with samples. The kick and snare samples are a bit dated, except ironically for the 808 and 909 samples which are excellent even in 2022!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      You can get your own samples into the machine now with WaveRex cards;)

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden Před 2 lety +1

      @@AudioPilz 0.5 seconds, feels like the 80s 😂

  • @alvaroapablaza5471
    @alvaroapablaza5471 Před 2 lety +3

    nice! I've always seen these high priced. I gotta admit the very first time I read Human rhythm composer I thought it would provide sounds like beat boxing samples and smacking your thighs and chest sounds, true story.

  • @jeno.javori_music
    @jeno.javori_music Před rokem +1

    Wow ! I reallyliked your music!

  • @xxxxxxxxx08
    @xxxxxxxxx08 Před 2 lety +1

    your videos help me so much

  • @23bit76
    @23bit76 Před 2 lety +3

    That snare 😎

  • @deelux5519
    @deelux5519 Před 2 lety +4

    The R8 isn't bad gear....it's gear too complex for 99% of the Ham n' Egger's out there to deal with. I HAVE USED FSK SYNC! And I CAN Fully program this bad Muthaf%$ka of a drum machine. I've got the 808 and 909 cards and let me tell you, this machine was the best investment I've ever made (In regards to drum machines.) The problem is simple. You NEED to understand music, in a classical sense, and engineering, to use it properly. Kids today simply do not have the skills to operate this classic.

  • @G1SUNPLANT
    @G1SUNPLANT Před 2 lety +1

    Serious gear, maybe timeless! Cool episode! Great live tracks performance!

  • @_pokies
    @_pokies Před 2 lety +1

    mate this is awesome

  • @jazzseba
    @jazzseba Před 2 lety +6

    That was powerful! loved the synthwave-anime track!!!! made me crave for playing my tenor sax with tons of chorus and a bright reverb!!!!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks! Careless Whisper FTW;)

  • @kristianTV1974
    @kristianTV1974 Před 2 lety +3

    Glad I went for the RY30 instead, didn't think I'd made the right choice at the time!

  • @pinagerman
    @pinagerman Před 2 lety +2

    Lots of memories.. back in 1993 I was syncing it with a Tascam 424. It used the 4th track to recrod the "pulses" but it was definitely worth it because you didn't have to tape the drums and had all those outputs to run to a mixer. Good times. and the nuance on the closed hihats was pretty awesome too.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed, great for fine cymbal nuances!

  • @SeanBurress
    @SeanBurress Před 2 lety +1

    we don't deserve the love you put into this channel!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      I don't deserve such a great audience! Thanks!❤️❤️❤️

  • @lookapi
    @lookapi Před 2 lety +3

    I want/need a waverex episode too!!!✌✌✌🤟🤟🤟

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Let's see if I can get hold of one of these cards...

  • @dvdny
    @dvdny Před 2 lety +4

    First! Where is that clip at 1:38 from? I need to see more 😂 This is one of those 'Bad Gear' episodes that's really more like 'hurry up and buy this gem before they get truly overpriced'. Thanks for the heads up 👍

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      I think there isn't more to see. Just a harlem shake;)

    • @dvdny
      @dvdny Před 2 lety +1

      @@AudioPilz Ahh, of course.

  • @musamusashi
    @musamusashi Před 2 lety +1

    I have one of those but i very rarely use it these days: it has always been too complicated for me. This video gave me a boost to go try mess with it again.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      It's a bit challenging but totally worth it!

  • @lo-firobotboy7112
    @lo-firobotboy7112 Před 2 lety +1

    Oooo, I want a full version of the second jam. Sweet!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! Extended jams can be found on my Patreon;)

  • @distantcomets
    @distantcomets Před 2 lety +6

    8th! This one is such an edge case: the drums sounds genuinely good but also incredibly specific to their era. Like an M1 Organ sound, using them almost inevitably evokes a certain slightly overused aesthetic that can be difficult to shake IMO. Still, it’s got an incredibly powerful sequencer, and the sounds are high quality. Some clever afterprocessing could be the difference in making it sound more original/modern…

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      True that!

    • @distantcomets
      @distantcomets Před 2 lety

      @ghost mallDepends on your objective. I buy all these old bits to sample, layer, and thrash em. The hardware is great for that. Then I resample them. But yeah, in the box, there’s probably a Roland pack someone could buy instead… just for the stock sounds.

  • @jensmeyer3718
    @jensmeyer3718 Před 2 lety +3

    Bad gear ????!!! Noooooo. I love this since i bought it in 1989. I habe all cards collected. For 20 years it was my workhorse, until switch to fl Studio

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Wow, all cards! That's one for the pension fund;)

  • @gonzinigonz
    @gonzinigonz Před 2 lety +1

    I remember when these came out, working in a music shop at the time. They had a problem with leaking caps on the a
    early ones, had to replace a few.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Ah, good to know! Thanks for posting!

  • @AndrewJohnClive
    @AndrewJohnClive Před 2 lety +1

    Nice jam Flo. I used to have a Boss DR660 and I can see this is where it comes from..👍🏼

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! Yeah, the Doctors borrowed heavily from the R8

  • @ErikEkholm
    @ErikEkholm Před 2 lety +4

    For the love of Holy drum machine Jesus where can I get a sample pack of those drums??!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Samples from the show can be found on my Patreon (end of plug;)

    • @removalist1995
      @removalist1995 Před 2 lety +1

      They are also in Microsoft General Midi, on every windows pc lol

    • @MGMan37
      @MGMan37 Před 2 lety

      The R8 drum samples were used all over Roland's Sound Canvas line of romplers such as the SC-55. One way of getting those samples you can find is looking up the SF2 soundfont "Scc1t2.sf2" which is based on a Sound Canvas ROM. You will have to use another program to get the samples out of the SF2 file, or use a VST to load the SF2 and play it by sending MIDI to its Channel 10 and changing the Channel 10 patch number to 17 to get the set that has "That Snare" in it. The deeper snare used in Jam 1 is in patch number 1.

    • @ErikEkholm
      @ErikEkholm Před 2 lety +1

      @@MGMan37 Just make me an awesome multisampled mega layerd super Kontakt patch! with all the extras and mustard!

    • @MGMan37
      @MGMan37 Před 2 lety

      @@ErikEkholm Apparently Kontakt up to 5 can load SF2 files directly, it will appear as a folder in the upper browser pane containing all of the soundfont's patches (you want the Standard Drumset and Power Drumset patches. Synth Drum too.) It may have been removed from 6 and up. But if you have a buddy with kontakt 5 or lower you can probably have them import the SF2, then export their library, and then you can import that into 6 and up

  • @fisk0
    @fisk0 Před 2 lety +13

    Just gonna say it's wonderful how the TB3 has transformed from "what's this, it barely does 303 sounds" to the most versatile synth of the 2010s

  • @old_ogcdigital
    @old_ogcdigital Před 2 lety +1

    KILLED IT with the jams today! Now I'm fighting the urge to buy an R-8

  • @skipbreakfast
    @skipbreakfast Před 2 lety +1

    Back in '91 I used to run my R-5 through an ancient 6-channel PA board for the same "old school" effects you were doing!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Nice!!! Love old mixing boards