Lance Armstrong: The Rise & Fall Of A Cycling Legend | Aubrey Marcus Podcast
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- From defeating cancer and being a celebrated hero to his hard and financially perilous fall from grace, professional cyclist and seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong lays it all out in an intimate discussion of what it feels like to lose everything but gain his happiness.
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He’s always been an inspiration to me. When the chips are stacked against him he still comes through.
Amazing content. I completely saw Lance in a different light after the Rogan podcast. He sure did some stupid things but who didn't? I feel like people aren't really listening but trying to find things they can hate on.
You should bring Taylor Phinney on the Podcast. American cyclist, highly talented from a world class cycling family, almost had his career ended in a high-speed crash, came back and developed so much character in the healing process. I would argue that there is so much to learn from him and how he developed. Check him out and ask Lance about him!
Keep up the great work you do, and inspire every day!
Despite the performance enhancers, it still takes a certain type of person to achieve what Lance has. Alot to be learnt here
Timm it takes a certain kind of asshole
Yeah it takes a fucking cheater to cheat, doesn't it.
He was a talented one day rider and triathlete before doping at best. Ever see the video of him getting destroyed by M. Indurain at his a TDF time trial in one of his early tours?He never would have accomplished what he did without dope. He simply didnt have the physiology. People say there was a level playing field. That is simply not true. Not all teams can afford the best dope, doctors or trainers. Besides that, all athletes dont get the same benefits from the drugs.
My main point was his assholiness. He used his position , power and money to destroy anyone who got in his way.
@@rollinrat4850 been drinkin the david walsh / greg lemond kool aid eh. i just wonder what armstrong did that was actually cheating compared to all of his competitors. ill tell you what, nothing. he won the tours fair and square, ask any rider from that era they all say the same, he fucking won. walsh made a name for himself and got paid and lemond go a fucking medal for being this white night of anti doping. hes the fucking greatest fraud in sports history, what a sociopath to have the gaul to say he never used PED's and throw fellow riders under the buss. everybody in cycling knew he was doping, cos everybody was doping. to go after armstrong was just a way to get either fame, money or revenge. if someone is trying to destroy your life, your legacy and put you on the street you fight back with all means at your disposal, anyone would
@@rollinrat4850 exactly, and that's what a warrior does. Everybody else was doing it, and he won 7 TIMES!! But because he won 7 times, he takes all the heat. Who did they end up saying "officially" won those tires tours?... Oh that's right, they couldn't go down far enough in the GC standings to find somebody that was CLEAN! He is the GOAT, he raced like a madman, and didn't ever switch that off off the bike. Do you find videos of every other person that was doping and try trashing them too? Or your just do it to the winners? Lol.
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Probably the best illustration of professional mindset, Lance provides a perfect response here.
Great interview, well done! Hope to see LA and his posse again at SoX in early March! Keep rollin.
awesome interview!!! Thanks. I watch Lances podcast but it's nice to see him being interview in a non television or mainstream format.
Only know Armstrong from what I have read and like the hell out of everything he has done. We can all learn from him. I'm still learning at 78. Thank both of you.
Nothing gets this guy down, Lance is the definition of a winner, how could he not inspire you.
Lance and Trump have something in common - complete lack of conscience and self-reflection.
That's why none of the consequences of their actions bring them down.
Actually Lance almost quoted Trump verbatim here when he said he's afraid to take ayavasca implying he's afraid of what he'll find out.
Both are afraid of becoming conscious of themselves and their actions.
Bear Arms that applies to all your presidents (if you're american )
Jareed al obaid, you pulled straight that out of your ass. If not, provide 44 quotes, 1 per US president, where they state or imply they are afraid of what they may find out about themselves.
Bear Arms that's not what i meant , i mean presidents like bush or obama did just that as bad shit (if not worse) as trump is doing , i expressed myself very badly haha
This might be the best interview of lance I’ve ever heard. Hats off!
Terrific discussion Aubrey and Lance! I definitely now see Lance in a new light; keep moving forward!!!
Profound and illuminating interview, Aubrey. Impressive how you covered so many psychological issues at the heart of the matter. The interview gives you a great appreciation for Lance's professional process on and off the bike. Thank you Lance for sharing your story and educational journey. The truth does set you free. Your metaphor, Aubrey 18 minutes or so into the interview about the poker process applied to cycling process was awesome as was the Pressfield reference.
Great interview. I remember Lance saying one time: "The fear of losing is much larger than the feeling of winning. I love to win, but I hate to lose more. There is a lot of truth in that saying."
I think ive seen every lance a. interview. This one is super interesting
Same here mate 🤙
Awesome interview Aubrey! (subscribed)
That was a great interview, thank you!!
wow, fascinating insight into LA's drive and commitment to be a top professional cyclist; I always appreciate how Lance really gives us those details and descriptions regarding his training as a pro.
Yup, it’s the process that’s the challenge. I used to race road bikes and later triathlon. Its like a use to say to the gearheads I work with: you guys like to tune and screw around with your cars to make them faster, I do the same thing with my body. When I worked in a gym in college, I realized the concepts was very similar for competitive bodybuilders. The process.
Never take counsel with fear. Love it ♡
nice topics. very inspirational and motivating
this podcast totally help me have some breakthroughs man! appreciate ya. I actually had the pleasure of meeting you at a ufc event, you were with your fiance and steve o. Also Lebron probably had alot of struggles to break through in his life, it would be awesome to sit down and talk with Lebron for an hour. But proabably one of the hardest guest to get on a show in the entire world haha.
You rock Aubrey!! Thank you for your candor.
The greatest cycling competitor in his era, no doubt
Was lucky enough to see Lance in Nevada City Crit and what a treat, he is really hard core
That was a lovely interview.
Like all of us with flaws, it's about the process, family and peace of mine...
The process, Family, Piece of Mind - I love this. Thank you for sharing.
Much Love
- Aubrey
Personal power..... that is the real thing .
Very interesting chat.
Thanks for sharing and finding value in this episode
Much love
- Aubrey
Audrey you are superb! Echardt Tolle would love you!
Such a beautiful mind you have! Bravo man!
great podcast!
This was really valuable. I share many similar traits. I think many of us do. I went from riding with pros to being poisoned by toxins in 1990. It's been a long struggle to about a year ago when I began to find answers to regaining health. Life is a puzzle. Every ride is a time trial.
Great questions. thank you to both of you.
So much to say about this interview but first hope your health is ok Aubrey. I am in UK Aubrey so I don't know how famous you are but being a nobody myself I know what its like to make a major mistake but at least I don't have millions reminding me of it every day like Lance does.
He's really spot on when he says the drugs thing is the least of the problem and he has recognised that he is having to work on his attitude. I do know that Emma O' Reilly has forgiven him so that's good enough for me. As for true friends how right he is since my incident there's many I have not seen for years.Great interview.
Damn this was good.
The volume is all over the place depending on if they are speaking directly into the mic or not, really fades if not directly speaking into the mic; maybe try using a compressor plug-in to even it out. Regardless, great interview, thanks for having Lance on.
He deserve his 7 titels back
He's intense, does he even smile once. Incidentally, lovin the trampoline in the background :D
18:25 one of few times
I hear he's doping to be number one in podcasting. The podfather.
Great piece Aubrey. Nice to see Lance upbeat. Stay strong Lance.
Love him or hate him, that was a great interview
With Lance Armstrong with Lance Armstrong
Like **actually** WITH Lance Armstrong?
Great interview ! Love him or hate him , Lance is A Legend you can't deny it !
Legendary cheat and an asshole who destroyed people's careers to protect himself.
they literally denied it when he was rightfully stripped of all his titles, contracts and affiliations for defrauding millions of people and stealing tax payers money. Infamy is different than Legendary...
literally professional at 15 but okay lmao
A few years ago during the Tour, the announcers were making their picks of riders to win the stage. Bob Roll make his choice saying something like this, "Today's stage is going to be brutal, it's a stage that's going to test these riders down to their very souls, and only one of these men has felt the fetid breath of death on the back of his neck and that man is Lance Armstrong." So, of course.
I must have missed this. Lance hasn't raced in the Tour since 2011.
well said, they were ALL doping, he's seen death up close,not many of these assholes and so called purer than pure riders will EVER see a pro cycle race and what goes on, they would soon change and open up their tiny minds, its a fucking jungle and everyone was crawling around waiting to pounce,survival of the fittest I'm afraid "you play then pay" this guy is a LEGEND full stop IMO
At my age, 66, a few years probably means something different to me than it does to you, lol.
The iron butt motorcycle rally is starting in a couple days, 11000 miles in 11 days, thats sounds painful too. they says its more mental than physical
They were all juiced.
He won. He was the best by far.
good one about popping "oxy's"
He did a limited hang out. He confessed to -some- of what he did but not all. He claimed not to dope in his comeback, but it's likely that is not true. Some people, including his teammates think there was mechanical doping as well.
He is Jordan sick in the head----I love it!
Poor guy had to sell 2 of his 10 homes and I'm so proud he could adapt. VIVE LA TOUR. Lance, you're still a hero and I'm happy you're trying to live a normal life after living life as a fraud. Just like someone who goes to jail for identity theft. WAY TO GO BUD.
#sarcasm
I love en of 2017 Lance. Think he is got emotionaly smarter, he is not faking it now.
He was already on EPO, testosterone, steroids, blood doping ,etc., before he was diagnosed with cancer. Hypocrite...
Christina Christacos that is the sport, and athletes today are using same stuff,
America is sick... in that we use people use others emotional/physical/financial troubles as entertainment. The complete opposite of empathy and compassion.
Lance called the lebron scenario perfect
It's funny how many make it their mission to search out all LA content on CZcams and remind everyone he's a cheater/fraud/liar etc. why? If you hate him so much, why do you even watch?
What is LA content
I just randomly got to this video but cycling sports got into a major crisis because of cheaters like him and some others.
You've got to be kidding me. Doping is so widespread in so many different sports. Everyone in cycling was doping.
@@jimparsons4312 The person in the video is called Lance Armstrong, rather famous cyclist.
In order to save time, people ususally shorten words, names etc., so in this case, of this video, LA stands for "Lance Armstrong". LA Content in this context means the videos of Lance Armstrong (LA)
@@hurrdurr3615 "some" others??? If by "some" you mean EVERYBODY then yes. Lol. They couldn't even go down far enough into the standings to find somebody that was clean. If they were ALL doing it, then why does Lance take ALL the heat? Oh that's right, cause he won 7 tours.
17:41 mind blown
Real Eckhart Tolle stuff! Well done guys!
Around 3:15. He’s referring to EPO. Push through.
"his hard and financially perilous fall from grace," YES! Wow I can only imagine the fall to just $50,000,000.00 poor guy. More money than any of us will ever know the feeling of having.
Lol yes he had a financial fall but he’s still a millionaire. He’ll be ok.
being an early investor in uber saved his family, for sure -- he's talked about it.
Damn! good stuff bro. Lance will always be the man in my book. His journey touched my heart. I too have fallen from grace and on a journey to find my way back.
44:00 "No new friends"
The up side is worth it.
My question to Lance Armstrong would be do you regret the first time you used drugs in competition ?
mike withers - He has answered that multiple times. The answer remains ‘no. I wouldn’t be where I am today if all those things didn’t happen.’
The whole issue is not his cheating it is that people are interested in him... the psychological component.. part of history... how and what we can learn from this. No one (gets away) really with anything... in life... everyone is accountable
We know LA is fearless. Still we love his ability to suffer and he apparently loves to make others suffer (this, he's admitted).
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Love me some Lance Armstrong! , He is a 100% #athlete and a #doer
You missed a P in "doer"
Cycling is like the very beginnings of life itself, out of the heat and the gas, the molten lava, the boiling water, the rocks and the steam, the filth , the bacteria and the muck... springs fourth life and that life is beautiful even if it is full of shit (read Lance). I hope he wins his court case, even though he brought the sport into disrepute he brought joy and happiness to millions of people that watched him and was an inspiration to people with cancer. I do hope he will apologise to Greg Lemond and Paul Kimmage one day, maybe he already has, buy them a beer or a coffee Lance if you don't mind. And I also think it is the corporations that need to be scrutinised, not just the riders as its them that are pushing for win at all costs. ps I did come to the tour de France to watch you and others, the Tourmalet in 2004 and again 2 or 3 years later, was me that shouted at you C'mon Lance you're riding like a muppet", was just a bit of fun.
Armstrong still a hero. Always was, always will be.
He's a great man.
Michael Ceulemans why?
czcams.com/video/bjwBHZnpee8/video.html
For me he is the perfect embodiment of competitivity. That nature/talent he used and still uses in every aspect of his life. Also on the negative such as the lying, cheating, threatening people, etc ... We all know the story, no need for repeating in detail. He started as the little Texan boy who was raised by his mother and made his way upwards in sports on the basis of willpower. Later he became the man who survived cancer and at that time inspired millions of people by crawling back on the bike. He could have settled with a quiet, humble life but the hero inside of him wanted more and always will want more. Because he is not like us, he doesn't settle with 'okay'. Even if he had never won a Tour de France it would still be pretty heroic to return to professional cycling.
A few years ago he was named the 'fallen hero/ a disgrace' : a stained reputation. Today, after some years of struggle, again he inspires with the same competitive drive to keep on moving forward despite all the difficulties. Lance Armstrong is for me the personification of mental strength and resistance in ALL aspects of life, not only sport. And sadly, no one is perfect. We all lie, we all cheat, we all bully on a certain degree. The hero is trully sorry, and so should we when we do shamefull things. For a man born with his nature to dominate, it is even more remarkable to feel really sorry and change his life in the way he has. He trully is a great example of repentance and mental strength. He aknowledged and regrets the wrong he did and yet always keeps moving forward and today he's an even bigger hero than before. A true source of inspiration. There are many people (athletes, politicians, etc...) who are placed on a pedestal while the less glorious( not to say ugly) truth dies with them. Armstrong is not that kind of fairytale hero we grown ups know they don't exist. He realizes that despite the things he has lost such as money and old reputation, he also won many things in life as he tells in the interview. Lance Armstrong. He's the cancer survivor that has won the TDF 7 times and that all seems like an unsignificant detail today. Crazy world. The name Lance Armstrong will always be connected with TDF 7, cancer survivor, Livestrong, positive inspiration, mental strength an resilience, incredible athlete, ... despite all the negative. He is sorry for the bad things he did and he is moving forward. And if we were all as heroic as him, we should be moving forward too, forgive him and put him back where he belongs.
sir lance your still my idol
Can a leopard change it's spots?
Well a man can change his sex so in 2017 and beyond yea probably.
But inside they are still the same person, more or less.
I don't know what you're trying to say here exactly....
I’m surprised to see that Lance is definitely not aging well. He looks like an exhausted piece of old man gristle. No bueno.
He looks great imo
im 2 years older then lance and he is looking much older now. He has had a hard life even though he doped he trained like a beast.
tATOO. dA pLANE!!!! DA pLANE!!!!
If people were allowed to fail just one time? & that's it? Then most politicians, lawyers, corp executives would be done. Where there's a will there's a way for him to make his resurgence(politically speaking)
Fucking amazing
Great interview! The guy is still an inspiration. I think all the trah talkers below should put their money where there mouth is and race Lance for money. See how that turns out.
Christy Dolan the US Postal service benefited greatly from the advertising. When else in history did the post office seem cool? As far as frauds, all the Euros were doing the same thing. Do you know any of their names? What about the fraud they committed? Do you care, or doesn't it matter, because they lost?
so? when else in history did a so called world class athlete act the way Lance did when the truth started to come out? the point is that everyone who won and was doping got reprimanded for breaking the rules. Lance is no different from the other cheaters and frauds except he took everything too far and still hasn't come completely clean about his actions. don't try to change the subject and avoid then point just as a person like Lance would do
Deanna Alvarez are you are sports history expert? The Russians have been covering that up for decades. How many miles a week are you currently riding? I'm always curious if the critics are even cyclists. If you're getting paid to win, and everyone is using enhancers, what would you do? Or what do you do for a living? As far as changing the subject, i just responded to the comment above.
I can’t honestly justify it but I like Lance Armstrong. I get he cheated, I don’t approve of it but I still like him. Spoiler alert he settled the law suit and payed about $5 million of the $100 million he was being sued for. He’s still a millionaire so yes he’s “adjusted”
Lol Lance is soooooooooo competitive.
Winning = meh. Losing sucks a$$. Train hard to just not lose. Yep
That's how it started; forging birth certificates at 15 years old to race. Isn't that an early indication of what it was to come? Was a total punk. He then graduated to a professional one.
Dude, you still hold a grudge and talk shit for someone you probably never met ? Really ? Lance may have his problems, but after all those years, and you still criticizing and playing therapist all wrapped in one, it seems to me like it's time for you to turn your eyes in and ask yourself where from this envy and foul mouth come from.
i doubt you ever met him either so your obvious grudge toward his critics is totally backwards, plus this criminal deserves criticism so you look just as twisted as Lance does when he tries (unsuccessfuly) to defend himself. nobody cares about bs, people care about the truth only at this point.
... and I assume that by "people care about the truth" you mean your perspective of it. The "truth" as you put it, is never as one sided as you think it is or as you'd like us to think it is. Of course he's never going to be successful at defending himself to people like yourself, and others in this tread, who can't discern shades of gray but only see in black and white, bs or hero. What are you ? The great judge who can say who deserves criticism and who deserves praise ? Are you sure you can speak for "the people" ? Reality check - at least half the people on this tread have a different perspective than you do. Are they all just dumb and you are the smart one ?
Would you say the same thing about 16 yr old veterans that lied about their age to go fight in war? Worthless cheats in the making right..
I'm sure if we put your life under a microscope wed find zero cheating, lying or anything even slightly immoral, the perfect saint.
So he would have confessed if the teammates hadn’t testified against him? . If only he’d gotten to the good life years before the feds had to get involved. He would have been able to start
being happy sooner!
I see two middle aged men who still don’t get it. Trying to convince each other(?) that the kids are alright? That they are doing fine. This will never be over until God enters. Not my opinion. Just the truth.
Greg LeMond rode CLEAN. My inspiration.
Watch The Last Rider Greg LeMond
Trampoline in his office??
Armstring may have been a liar, a cheat and a bully, but the worst thing actually was the way he dealt with competition, like for example informing the cycling body that Hamilton was on drugs or having drivers from his team that got too close to him for his liking taken off the team's drug program.
Damn They Set Lance Up & Made Him The Fall Guy!.....All Those F*CKING HYPOCRITES!
How the hell do you crucify 1 person when EVERYONE WAS JUICED UP?!...How
Everything Lance has comes from cheating. How is he an authority on success, beyond successfully lying and cheating?
Lance mentions that life us great cause he doesn't have a boss. Most of us have a boss and our lives are fine I don't see the issue there. If he loses his ions he may have a boss called Mr pizza hut.
Armstrong's mistake was to come back. in 2009. If he didn't come back in 2009 he would have gotten away with it. He was caught for samples of 2009-2010. And he did not win anything during his comeback of 2009-2012. So he got greedy and that cost him the 7 tours of 1999-2005.
NOW WAIT A MINUTE - NOW HE SAID EVERYONE IN THE BICYCLE RACES USE DRUGS TO WIN. THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE
DARN WHO IN THE HELL IS HONEST IN THE BICYCLE WORLD OF BICYCLE ROAD RACING ? THEN IT MY LITTLE TINY BRAIN TELL'S ME THAT ALL THE ONES THAT TAKE THE DRUG'S TO WIN A BICYCLE ROAD RACE MAKES THE BICYCLE ROAD RACE SPORT VERY BAD AND UNFAIR TO THE HONEST BICYCLE RIDER'S.
Where can I score so EPO, man?
the wsop comparison was terrible
The best there is the best there was the best there ever will be. EVEN PLAYING FIELD BITCHES.
lmfao at even playing field . armstrong is the best at cheating
I like listening to lance but the guy interviewing says way to much in my opinion.
Wish i'd know how well cheating and lying paid when I was younger
I wonder how much Greg LeMond lost when Armstrong destroyed his business? I have no pity for this guy.
Firsthgyhgyhuy Lastujhujhuj - I can't imagine how people like you, who lack the decency and morals, can defend horrible people like Armstrong. I bet you'll also defend the doping British duo, Wiggins and Froome, right? Oh sorry, Froome is African.
Teufel Hunden FYI: I heard LeMond in an interview, the one he gives with his wife sitting next to him, that losing his business cost him 11 million dollars. If I see the video again I will come back and add the link.
Deemaree Dubois - Thanks. I'd love to see that video clip. More than the money, LeMond also lost his reputation and a lot of the goodwill he had with the public because of Dopestrong.
Cyclists have been taking ped's 's for 100 years
Endlessly fascinating as an athlete and ultimate competitor. But seems incredibly disingenuous and a sad tortured soul. Wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him.
17:50 sociopathy goes a long way.
Floyd Landis was the Judas who kissed you before the sun came up.
🙈🙉🙊
Didnt even recognise him, make zure u put ure guests name at the beggining of the video title
From a psychiatric point of view, it is still fascinating to watch L.A. speak about the TDF as if he had won them fair and square. Totally and irreversibly delusional...
He broke the rules, he cheated and ruined peoples lives. He became a multimillionaire and he still has a lot of money. He was not punished. Why is anybody listening to this person anymore? The interviewer is creepy.
My question is what drives people like you , it's got to be insecurity right ? and I love the way someone makes a comment like you , and seconds later a whole gang starts to putting the boot n
Cheat
Talking a lot about "learning" there. Nevertheless, it looks a lot like the lessons he learned were the following:
1) I am going to keep repeating that "everybody was doping (meaning equally)", although nothing can prove that
2) I am going to erase completely the mob-like bullying part, so that the only thing left to discuss is 1)
3) I will repeat "law is on my side", voluntarily putting aside the moral aspect, as if a thief could keep the money he stole during his whole career because he has good lawyers
4) I will re-visit the whole scam from a communication point of view, as if a different style of interview with Oprah could change the fact that L.A. is a cheat, a liar and a bully
Seppe Tank
Compelling argument. You almost convinced me there
Moron
Seppe Tank
100% of the money (and it is a fortune) L.A. made during his career was based on cheating, since he admitted it
Anti doping will never be taken seriously as long as the cheaters can keep the money they made doing so
You also think bank robbers should keep the money they stole ?
Seppe Tank
Talking about mafia, ask the people whose life L.A. has ruined for years with bullying and lawsuits (Lemond, Betsy Andreu, Emma O'Reilly, Simeoni, Bassons, and many others)
Talking about the money he gave is like excusing Maddoff because he gave (I am sure he did) some money to charity. This just an wrong argument. Every big mafia-like crook covered their tracks with donations, for idiots like you to fall in that trap head first
Finally, if I do not believe pro sports are clean (I think on the contrary they are getting dirtier every year), I still want to see someone bringing me the evidence that 100% of competitors at the highest level in any given sport is doping. I will be waiting for a long time ....
As a sportsman hes a dirty cheat
Lance, stop doing interviews. Good luck on your journey.
Yes, he should take time off.