MIT professor: this new battery could change the world, these metals needed
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2020
- In order to transition towards a fully renewable energy-based economy, the problem of intermittency in non-fossil fuel electricity generation first needs to be solved, said Donald Sadoway, professor of materials chemistry at MIT.
“I wanted something that was versatile and could go wherever you needed to have the gap, bridge, when the sun isn’t shining and wind isn’t blowing,” Sadoway told Kitco News.
Sadoway, who was named one of Time Magazine’s “100 Most Influential People” in 2012, had worked on new battery technologies that would solve this problem; he and his team at MIT created the liquid metal battery to be used for stationary energy storage.
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Wow a scientist who understands free markets. Impressive!
obviously as markets are so much easyer to understand than something noone has ever found out before,...
I like this guys attitude towards market forces driving the industry and not the govt. With govt involvement the transition will take forever.
Lets face it, we will never EVER know who to listen to or to trust anymore.
You never did, you just grew up
Trust no one, listen to everybody and make your own judgement.
how about the fed?
@@paloman95 Great answer
There's only ever been one person in your life that you should listen to.....unfortunately those in control of you also know this so do there best to confirm to you otherwise.
thought for sure he was going to say batteries in the future will be 100% silver
They will
There isnt enough silver for that
Marshall Helms good.
@@marshallhelms6532 there is. Get it to 300$ and there will be all sorts of crazy mines popping up
Every time he said liquid metal it made me think of the T-1000.
We’re one step closer to Skynet
Skynet happened years ago...
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@@GardenerEarthGuy I agree. Skynet and the zombie apocalypse happened a long time ago.
or of mercury lol?...
8 Years ago I tried to take this man's class on MIT's opencourseware
It was a great class, I was just too stoned to retain any of it.
Haha 😂
Thorium powered nuclear was one of the originals, and still the best solution. Oh, I forgot we can't make bombs from it😐
kmacksurf1 ... There was also the Santa Susanna Field Lab meltdown of 1959. Kinda put a stink on the topic. People in Simi Valley CA still get cancers at a higher rate. “purportedly”
That wouldn't happen with a Thorium salts reactor.
My understanding is that is exactly what it was..
@@TIznus no, the fuel used was Uranium.
you can get bomb material from a Thorium Reactor but the process is very difficult and the reaction would stop if too much was removed.
Good to see that storage is becoming the focus.
Let’s focus on economic reset and what sectors and why will need more silver platinum or palladium. Rhodium too. We all should know gold is MONEY.
One word, graphene, kind of surprised he didn't mention it. But it was nice to hear that graphite was on his list of base materials. There are a number of nice graphite plays on the TSXV
Capacitors are more unstable than batteries
Just use Nikola Teslas free energy or is there no MONEY in it ??????????????????
It cost too much to build the infrastructure to deliver it to the customer on a cost effective basis
Can't do that. Air pollution shortens life span, and makes the population more susceptible to flu pandemics? Implementing hydrolysis would prevent the dual depopulation mandate, too?
That's what Trumps wall is about! Free energy!
@Freedom Justice "More on" that, later...
@Freedom Justice I like being a moron.Thank you for making me feel special and not part of the herd
Good interview 👍
Good info... thank you
omg love the setup
After a 16 minutes interview, we know nothing about the battery: storage capacity, storage, cost, when will they commercialise it, etc. David usually asks good questions, but not this time.
Gabriel.. 🙏👍
Ambri cost is 66$/kwh lithium ion is150$/kwh
I'm pretty sure he's described it elsewhere as a reverse engineered aluminum smelter. It's designed to run industrial plants or many dozens of residential homes. You want data in kwh based upon displacement or something?
Which metals are needed?
Nichol
Mostafa F. Astaneh you tube liquid metal Redflow battery. This is not a new battery.
Lithium, cobalt, nickel... But not sure if these are just the current ones, or what he needs for the future.
Magnesium and antimony
Good job man. I enjoy your show
We're going nuclear people. All the solar panels you build, all the wind turbines you build, all the plant oils you sow will still not come near meeting our future energy needs. The only thing that will meet our coming electicity needs for one is nuclear energy.
Yes I got some uranium stocks pump my bags please
Agreed
Nuclear power is like other people shitting in your mouth.
Wrong. Old school thinking.
imnotcrazy which uranium stock name you would recommend please
Liquid poly-alloy
What does that mean?
Liquid metal.
Well done. Smart pragmatic guest - very smart. Subscribed because of this interview.
At last someone who has his head on straight.
Love this interview.
Nice set up but tone down the echo :)
Brilliant.
sorry he's wrong about there not being any advantage to driving an EV in an all-coal energy area. Even if the electricity is generated by coal - it is still an benefit. Firstly those coal power stations are not in the middle of cities & so all those cars NOT producing exhaust fumes make the cities MUCH cleaner places. Secondly the petrol or diesel needed to drive a million cars is still MORE polluting than the electricity to drive a million cars, even if that electricity is produced by modern coal plants. EVs are MUCH more efficient for a start.
So even if it is coal powered electricity, there are still massive gains to be made by driving EVs.
Does platinum have any play in this?
is the liquid metal toxic and what happens if ingested it by accident if the battery leaked? another liquid metal i know of is mercury
Glad to hear it’s not for vehicles. I’m heavily invested in lithium. The materials must be super secret. Why didn’t the host concentrate on the battery and the materials needed?
David, you are talking to the wrong “expert”. Talk to Dr. Jeff Dahn, or Dr. Shirley Meng. The latter is at UC San Diego. Also you need to do more research on this topic. It is documented already that after several years a Tesla in manufacture and operation bests a ICE car. Also the cost of ownership of a Model 3 is less than a Toyota Camry. So it is definitely more carbon efficient now and will be even more so going forward to own and operate an EV than an ICE vehicle. It also has a lower cost of operation. As for mining, we need to have coal mining companies and miners transition from mining coal to mining nickel, lithium and graphite. Check out The Limiting Factor for very detailed battery technology and Solving The Money Problem and Tesla Daily for detailed Tesla and EV data. Thank you.
You don't know how wrong you are
If everyone is driving electric cars they will need build a lot more coal and nuclear power plants
Coal is phasing out, as it should be. Natural gas turbines still make a lot of sense, being a helluva lot cleaner and low maintenance than coal-fired plants. Wind and solar have exceeded everyone's expectations from even just a decade ago, especially solar which makes significant advances just about weekly. In my estimate, nuclear is the future, the latest versions of which look _nothing_ like it did in 1980.
People don’t understand that they use more fossil fuel to build a electric car then it would ever save in fossil fuel in its lifetime of use. Plus a waste of very valuable resources. This is why they are so expensive.
@@farmerdude3578 That's true, however Musk's business model is to produce every stage of production in own his plants instead of farming out parts to others. He even bought some mining operations to have his own base materials. This could cut the costs to around 10k a car. Still, the electric production output of the US can barely meet demands now and power plants take forever to build.
And why the F people need to be driving everywhere? Screw them. Use your feet bitches !
zebratangozebra Muck can only do what he is doing from cheep money. If he had to make a profit he would be bankrupt years ago. It’s a pipe dream that will waste money, resources, and labor. This is one of the biggest dangers to the economy from zero interest rates. Money pours into stupid. And looks like it’s not.
Green hydrogen production combined with hydrogen fuel cells should be given more consideration.
Try Sunhydrogen formerly Hypersolar (HYSR)
sorry battery tech isn't their yet for delivery trucks. I drive for ups and we have some electirc trucks but can only use them in town. so still limited use. need to solve that battery issue before its profitable for delivery companies to switch to them.
Hi, is the anchor’s name Kitco?
That prof was badass. He's a straight up capitalist
Most science and engineering profs are. But they also understand, as he clearly points out, that these endeavors are jump-started by publicly funding. Almost every major sci-tech advancement in the USA can be traced back to our public university system (which is the envy of the world, and which employs this professor), NASA, DARPA, etc.
Absolutely the free market is necessary to sustain continued advancement, but we shouldn't undervalue the role of our collective national efforts.
Has anyone ever discussed or thought that over the years earth was reported to have become 25% greener at the same time carbon dioxide increasing..... and that trees consume carbon dioxide and give off oxygen?...... is it possible that this is a self regulating system? I'm guessing we will end up getting a save the plants global campaign next and we will be harvesting carbon dioxide haha
Yeah but human activity removes trees which are a CO2 sink and is a source of CO2 so the equilibrium is disrupted. This is a real problem
I think David was using one of those 4-colour Bic pens, hahaha.
starts at 9:55
Thanks
It's already 'competitive' for big companies to switch to EV fleets (if the vehicles exist). The lower cost per mile & the lower maintainance costs, plus engines that last a million miles, will make EVs a no-brainer for fleet operators.
I think he has an idea that needs research not a battery. What ever happened to fuel cells? An experiment/idea that was not an efficient one.
Batteries are old schools... no matter how you define it. The future is in magnetics.
hydrogen. I think they are with-holding efficient electrolysis of hydrogen to profit as long as possible on fossil fuels .
Fascist Philosophy the main issue IMO is about storage, not only does hydrogen need enormous pressures, but also the container has to handle hydrogen embrittlement. The activation energy hump of splitting h-o bonds is not the biggest hurdle
@@eman1989z I think that is bullshit -- they don't need to store it, they can just combust it at central power plants and send the power out through lines, like any energy grid. If they need to store energy, they can charge batteries at the plant.
Thank you for this report ! re: EV powered by fossil fuel produced electricty. In comments, Richard Jacobs & Earl Bramley-Hollman are Correct! I add that I.C.E. vehicles also have 30-40% energy loses!! Of course, the Ultimate Free energy is from PhotoVoltaics on your own property charging your EV directly at work or home !!
“Intermittent renewables . . . . “
Just build 150 new nuclear power plants, and be done with it.
moron.
Nuclear power is too expensive. Plenty of alternates.
@@deanwalker5367 "
Generally, I think it's long-term vs. short-term. Short term economic and political calculations implies natural gas or coal: cheap to build & expensive to fuel. Long-term thinking, which nobody is good at, implies nuclear: expensive to build and cheap to fuel.
@@OneSon744 Oh, yes, excellent argument. Very clever. Well done.
@@jfuite No need for expensive nuclear. You are stuck in the past. You need to stop watching fossil fuel funded TV. There Is Renewables that you know which can now be backed with battery. This is improving at a faster and faster rate now. So much so that in many countries subsidies are required to keep Coal etc... running. There is Hydro which can also be used as storage with wind and solar. There is Tidal energy. There is geothermal. There is renewable sugar and plant based energy (just another solar really). We simply don't need Nuclear for energy. Where Nuclear should be used and saved for is Space travel. It is a very dense and powerful energy source, and in space radiation does not matter.
How do we invest in these concepts?
Uhhh, that was the whole point of this video. It's a very obvious investment pitch for Northern Vertex Mining Co.
pterafirma saves me watching it lol
What charges this battery?
Obviously renewables derp
@@deanwalker5367 you mean burning trees?! Your farts are renewable methane - you butt hole geyser.
Professor Q Electricity 🤯
@@gregspeth152 thank you... but, by what means...? He suggested no specific specifications. Perhaps hydroelectric...
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Colonial acres in kitchener . Very good prices
Carbon neutral? Why are you accepting that the science is 'settled'??
Because he's not a moron and he actually has a scientific background and understands reality better than simple minded people like you
I wouldn't give a nickel for it
hahaha ahahaha hahaha ahahaha hahaha ahahaha hahaha ahahaha hahaha 😆
They have been saying this same crap Sense the model T came out in Henry Ford's words there will never be a battery that can compete with oil never.
@@roseneathorganics2597 and they still can't compete with gas powered car's.
That's just BS there not more efficient it takes way to long to charge them you still need power from oil to charge the car. the battery packs are very flammable when ruptured I don't see any gain's from them at all now maybe in The future when you can go 300 plus miles and refill battery in a couple minutes but until then no. and I'm just hitting the tip of ice burg there's many more problems but I'll stop here.
@@roseneathorganics2597 they have been saying that for decades we will see but I would not hold your breath
Wy not Hidrogen? To store the energy and balance the network.
Better questions should have been asked.
The only problem is the standby thermal loss , and the fact its super hot from a safety pov . Additionally grid storage is highly subsidized and is a industry dependent on other subsidized industries.... cough cough complete state owned shells . The alternative for long term energy storage is hydrogen, synthetic chemical fuels, pumped water hydro, or non traditional batteries like his . But his toughted energy efficiency is only as good as his standby thermal efficiency. Which gives rise to unfortunate math . The answer is nuclear and hydrogen refined from methane. It just is . It just is . I also think biochar to offset petroleum fertilizer is really obvious, although somewhat unrelated...... besides wood alcohol from the off gassing cough cough
silver is a must
He don't have a battery, he has an idea.
Red flow from Australia. Has a liquid metal battery.
California has rebates for EV
CZcams is exagerating with ads! Too many and too stupid recurring system! I am watching on kitko website from now on
Kitco
A quantum nanomaterials prototype inovation for energy production will solve our energy problems; the classical sciences does not offer one.
The Brilliant Light Power device is getting closer to being commercially viable:: brilliantlightpower.com/suncell-power-and-gain-boosted-again/
solar + wind power and their intermittency - ha ha.
im hungry
Eat some silver/gold
being waiting for 5 years and keep email with no reply haiz
Mercury is a liquid metal. Where are the batteries made from it?
Good interview, good questions, topical, terrible acoustics.
Initially subsidies are necessary in order to start the low carbon world.
Tesla's battery day baby!
09-22-2020
Consider microblading your eyebrows...I did it myself and it's simply amazing. What a nice change it would be for you.
Surely gold advice!
Good subject, guest and questions! We are a far cry from Daniella asking the same gold bugs their predictions on price
Solar is great for specific applications, especially stand alone applications. However, I don't see a time when the world runs as it does today without petroleum and coal barring either a revolution in nuclear or a totally new source of energy which is now unavailable to the general public. I calculated that to power the entire world at 2010 electrical power consumption levels with solar could be done if it were possible to get 100% efficiency (theoretical max being 85%) if we could also achieve zero transmission losses. We would only have to cover an area the size of Colorado with solar panels. Sounds totally plausible. I mean, how difficult would it be to pave the state of Colorado with solar panels? LOL! A lot could be done by improving efficiency of devices and systems. One huge loss of efficiency is transportation. I see the rise of 3d printing eventually ending the need for long distance transportation of lots of silly consumer products. Ground source heat pumps could really change the world. But unless some new kind of power, like zero point, is made available not much is changing.
Narrow mind alert!!
@@deanwalker5367 LOL! Reality is narrow minded.
Yes you can only think of Nuclear power as the alternate base load power. You have already been proven wrong by reality. troglodyte
@@deanwalker5367 "or a totally new source of energy which is now unavailable to the general public."
Illiterate moron.
Rehoboth Farm oh shit just reread your OP and now realised My comments were meant for a different post. My apologies, and I deserve the abusive retort.
the big question is how much did Donald Sadoway get for his research from the Chinese.
Finally someone telling it how it is and not this fantasy green new deal garbage.
Why is lowest price always the determining factor? The degradation of the environment and of human health should be factored in, that is a political / sociological issue to be solved.
hehe greed, greed is the thriving factor for so many things. money becoming worth less and less, fukoshima accident, tiktok bann. wars,....
I miss that beautiful kitco interviewer. She had way better focus on reality.
Tin roof rusted
This guy is amazing I wish he were in the white house
Your first question should have been "which metals?". I waited and waited.... then decided to do a Google search. Guess what? INSTANT ANSWER. Do you want us to watch or not?
Today i sold my maximum gold🤔
This guy needs to run for potus !!! I want him leasing this country
Don Sadoway is Canadian. He can’t become POTUS - that is until Canada takes over all of North America and rules with an iron fist!
Interesting but not earth shattering for mining except for the "Nuclear Energy" comment interesting maybe Uranium the "ugly sister"
Turned the development of a new battery into spin for climate change and carbon tax < But, as for the battery, 5 years and still no working battery
Carbon tax???? How many taxes u want more?!!! We do not need taxes! We need our freedem back
No need for renewables. Nikola Tesla had an electric car working off electricity drom the surrounding atmosphere corca 1910. Big business rejected the free energy philosophy of Nikoka Tesla.
“Fossil” fuels?....petroleum based products!
read a book
Too bad you did not ask me about solar pollution. Look it up.
WKHS
Why dont they suspend all the subsidies given to fossil fuel then? Let's level the plain field before we start talking about market forces.
Have you hear of Tesla?
We need to find alternatives to coal, which makes up the majority of electricity production
uranium is really cheap and abundant
Until smaller more efficient nukes get built, we have abundant nat'l gas. Cleaner than coal.
This is bad news for science genius AOC since it's very clear we won't be getting off fossil fuels before the world ends in 12 years. That's OK. Now I can party hearty while watching the end of the world from the front seat of my big gas-guzzling pickup truck.
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I think that having the gov incentives could push mass adoption leading to competition . Which would make economic sense
My dear professor, you have been brainwashed.
Where is your PhD Marta... You fool
A professor...hmmm..... taken with a grain of salt
Educated Professor who knows his stuff.
Redflow is a liquid metal battery from Australia. Not allowed to be sold in America. Fossil fuel industry owns or Politicians, liquid metal battery’s are already a reality.
👍👍Pick a thumb, click a thumb! 😄👍👍
the last few interviews .. sad
this guy does not say anything new
This interviewer needs to get off his high horse, get off global warming and subsidizing business like the Chinese. This professor has his stuff together recognizing that free markets are where the best innovation and results come from.
we can't afford any of this. the world runs on oil (so do renewables) - wake up. nonsensical interview.
I enjoy your show usually. You failed today.
This host is not great. Doesn't seem to understand the topic. Asks dumb questions
Where are you getting these metals from? 🤔🤔🤔 More Africans gotta die? In Congo?
Quit the climate change hysterical nonsense or lose viewership.
AMEN.
I relate to what you say. But we are minority. For them to survive they must follow the mainstream narrative EVEN though they know its b*llshit
Doesn’t sound like hysteria to me, just slow evolution of the species, to slow in my view.
@@Blackridge. Yea thats a fair point
Kitco, ignore this comment.