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Tech 21 SH1 Steve Harris vs VT Bass DI (Do they sound the same?)
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- Is it possible to get a Steve Harris sound without getting the Tech 21 SH1 signature model? And how close does the VT Bass DI get? Let me know what do you think!
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Tech 21 SH1: www.thomann.de/it/tech_21_sh1...
Tech 21 VT Bass DI: www.thomann.de/it/tech_21_san...
Chapters
00:00 Samples 1
00:50 First differences
01:30 Bite and Speaker emulation
02:31 EQ Differences
02:46 EQ Differences with loop
05:03 Achieving the Maiden Tone
05:43 VT Bass DI vs SH1
07:58 Conclusions
08:36 Samples 2 & Ending
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I'm a HUGE Steve Harris fan and prefer the VT Bass.
Thank you for this video, your channel is pure Gold
Ottimo lavoro !!
I like the VT "Steve Harris" setting better than the actual Steve Harris pedal, it has a nice layer of lows to it
The VT does sound "deeper" in that sense, but you can still boost the lower end on the SH1
Thanks for this great video! I think with VT you not need additional compressor pedal. I can hear little nice comp. even in clean tone, it's very good pedal. You sold me one 😀 I will buy
Man.... Very good job. Perfect.
Which do you prefer, the VT or the Sansamp Bass driver pedal ??
Thank you! I have never tried the Bass Driver Pedal, I definitely should try one!
Funny enough, I like the sound better with the VT DI as you had it with the first emulation, before you lowered the "lows", I just like that thundery sound on the VT DI a little bit more to fill up the space. I will copy the VT setting and test in my VT DI. Cheers and thanks!!
In the ene I guess it's all a matter or preference, both are excellent! Thanks for watching! 😊
Awesome video Oliver, shows me I don't need another pedal when my VT Bass will do the same thing. Now I wonder how close it can get to the Dug Pinnick?
Thanks! Yeah they can be quite similar, though there are slight differences in my opinion. The Dug Pinnick is an entirely different ball game, maybe the SH1 can get close to it in some cases, but it's quite different
I just got the SH-1, but I still have the SansAmp Bas Driver as well, OK and the YYZ Pedal and the DP3X, so yea I got issues, but anyway. I combine the Sh-1 and the bass driver to get the added lows, But I love having the SH-1 to be able to switch on to when I want that tone, then go back to the SansAmp for the normal Cleans. so it works well with both.
Finally!
Sembrano abbastanza simili (però mi ascolterò questo video più volte)
Ci sono un paio di cose che mi chiedo: nel primo test non fai il confronto A/B attivando e disattivando i perali, quindi il suono passa in entrambi i pedali contemporaneamente? E come mai il Bite dell SH1 alza così tanto io volume?
Per certe cose sono abbastanza simili, ma diverse su altre. All'inizio ho regolato i pedali in modo tale che tenendoli accesi non cambiasse il suono, quindi è totalmente flat, l'influenza dei pedali è davvero minimo in quel caso.
Il bite da un bel boost alle alte, a orecchio direi sui 4-5 kHz. Da l'impressione che vengano tagliate le basse ma semplicemente vengono percepite di meno, anche il volume rimane invariato
@@OliverTobyn
Sì alla fine questi pedali sono leggermente diversi, ma sostanzialmente equivalenti
A proposito del bite, mi chiedevo che frequenze boostsse/tagliasse, ma sul manuale non c'è scritto. Avrei voluto sapere se corrispondeva al bright della testata hiwatt nca 108, perché le altre frequenze, tranne i mids 2, corrispondono. Peccato non lo abbiano scritto.
Del bright della testata si sa questo: "Selettore Bright: attenuazione 6 dB/oct da 50 Hz ed esaltazione alti +3 dB. livello generale."
@@NtWarlock Micheal Kenney mi ha detto che sono anni che non usano più l'Hiwatt e il Trace Elliott, ora vanno perlopiù con Ampeg SVT CL e Orange 4Stroke. L'importante è tagliare i 500Hz e boost sui 1000Hz
@@OliverTobyn
Azzo non sapevo di questi ampli. Io nelle varie foto e video ho sempre visto copie della testata hiwatt, a parte la trace elliot che avrà usato negli anni 90.
Questi ampli li useranno da poco. Quando scrissi a micheal nel 2016 riguardo l'hiwatt e l'alectron, mi disse di provare con Mike Hill, che aveva fatto delle copie per loro alcuni anni fa
Certo che se facessero due foto al rack di steve harris non staremmo a farci tutte ste pippe e lui non avrebbe tanti messaggi su fb
I like that outro tune, is that original?
Yeah, it's a track from CZcams's unlicensed music library. It's called Riffs for days - TrackTribe
buona serata e buon anno Oliver
i think the VtDI is more agressif in the mid than the SH1
Ciao e buon anno a te! Yeah, maybe I boosted them a little bit too much on the VT
A mio parere il VT Bass Direct I. suona meglio (per i miei gusti). Sostanzialmente permette, secondo me, di impattare sulle frequenze in maniera più marcata rispetto all'altro pedale, corrispondendo un bel suono adatto a suonare gli Irons, ma comunque molto versatile.
Hey Oliver, if you had to choose one which it would be, i mean which one you think is more vesatile and has more sound options?
Hard one. But I think the VT Bass would be the my choice. Mainly because it has a more subtle and usable amp simulation than the Harris pedal, but they're both quite close
@@OliverTobyn Thank you, i have tried the vt bass and i love it but i cant find and try the sh1 and im thinking if i am missing something (if i get the vt). i play with a shortscale with a lot of mids and i was wondering if the sh1 will brighten my setup and be more "analytic" in the mid range.. but if i get it right you get the same effect (as having two midrange controlls) on the vt with the character knob
@@georgiemylonas5042 not exactly, the character knob cuts mids and boosts low and high ends counter clockwise and does the opposite clockwise, but other than that yeah they do overlap in a few areas
Complimenti per il video! Ho il bass fly rig e sarebbe interessante confrontarlo col sh1..secondo potrebbe avvicinarsi a quel sound? Grazie
Ti ringrazio! Ti posso già dire che la versione SansAmp incorporata nel Flyrig è proprio la VT Bass DI! Quindi sostanzialmente funziona allo stesso modo
@@OliverTobyn ottimo grazie mille per le info!
@@OliverTobyn secondo te, volendo essere precisi, avendo il bass fly rig quanto può essere utile avere l’sh1? Grazie ancora 👍🏻
@@andbass5905 Diciamo che ti aiuta ad avvicinarti al suono dell'SH1, anche se il bite è molto più accentuato sulle alte e l'emulatore di cassa emula le EV da 12", ma sono sottigliezze
@@OliverTobyn grazie mille per ora allora mi tengo solo il fly rig! 😀 grazie ancora e complimenti per i tuoi video 👍🏻
I want to make sure real quick, I just ordered the steve harris pedal, it's possible to hook that up into the fender rumble 15 right?
You can hook it up anywhere, as long as it has a jack or XLR plug 😊
@@OliverTobyn alright thank you!!! It comes in on the 8th and I'm so excited
@@Zazu619 I'm happy for you! I know all too well that feeling!
Love the sh1!
Though I‘m not that much into Harris‘ sound (but in his playing), it is great and super versatile.
Getting the Geddy Lee Sansamp tomorrow though and I am excited to compare them.
You are also a great player, btw!
Precision bass is just the real deal
Thank you very much! Yeah, the SH1 is definitely not a one trick pony! I'm curious to try out the DI 2112, but I have so many other things to get first haha! Eventually, at some point. Thanks for watching! 😊 😁
@@OliverTobyn okey, then much fun and luck for the things you have planned before the 2112. Thank you for these specific and great videos!
@@heinrich5098 thank you for watching! If I get my hands on a DI 2112 I'll definitely make some videos about it! And if you haven't already, subscribe to the channel! 😊 😁
@@OliverTobyn I have already subscribed of course!:D
@@heinrich5098 congrats on the wise purchase and you must now know that the “2112” is even better than either of these two pedals and the rack version is the best non tube bass preamp ever imho. 🤘✌️
Is it possible to get Dave Ellefson's bass tone on the Steve Harris Pedal?
I don't see why not, it's quite a versatile pedal. Though you'd need an Ellefson pickup configuration first of all
Ciao Oliver scusami ma l’sh1 a quale circuito si ispira? Al vt bass o al BDDI? O è un circuito del tutto originale? Grazie tante
Ciao, è un circuito del tutto originale. Per certi versi potrebbe essere simile al VT Bass, ma è tarato su frequenze diverse
@@OliverTobyngrazie tante Oliver 😊👍🏻
Is the second one the VT Bass in the final samples?
Yep ;)
i love the sh1 but it gets a little noisy when i turn on the "bite", do you use a noise gate ?
No, I didn't. If you use roundwound strings I'd cut the highs a bit more, in the video I used flats.
@@OliverTobyn i use steve harris rotosound strings, and i still get a lot of background noice, i think it is white noise
@@victorvalero6637 its your treble or gain too high is you hear hiss.
@@victorvalero6637 you obviously don’t have a Steve Harris pick then.
Ciao, è possibile ricreare il suono di Harris anche con il Sansamp bass driver?
In parte, sì. Un po' nel video ci ho provato ma non è al 100% fedele
@@OliverTobyn mi sono spiegato male. Nel tuo video usi il VT bass DI. Secondo te con il sansamp bass diver (quello nero con scritte gialle) è possibile ricrearlo come con il VT?
The VT has a better sounding bite switch but the Steve Harris has a nicer low sounding cab Sim
Haha yeah, the VT Bass ones are probably more versatile. The Bite switch on the SH1 was designed to be used with his flatwound strings, which don't have as much treble as rounds
The sh1 seems to have a tad bit of "hair" on top
Hair? 🤔
SH sounds WAAAAAY BETTER
Jesus Christ almighty, the bite switch on the Steve Harris is unusable
It's designed to work with flatwound strings, which don't have too much brightness. Usable with rounds if you want to use the blend control
I have both pedals. The bite switch on the Steve Harris is extreme, but very helpful to get fat overdriven sounds kind of like Geezer Butler, Jack Bruce or even Lemmy. You can "tame" the bite switch with lowering the Treble, and boosting Lows and Low Mids. I love the 4 band EQ that the SH-1 offers, the first Tech21 pedal that has that feature. Playing an Gallien Krueger 800RB head in the 80s I am very much used to that 4 band set up. Also I love that you have everything (2 channels, Tuner) in one small unit with the SH-1. The only thing I miss is a headphone out.