Why Traditional Karate Doesn't Work
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- Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida became MMA legend using Karate. But it didn't work at first. Because traditional Karate is designed for self-defense, not combat sports. So Lyoto made changes and became UFC champion! Learn more in this interview hosted by Karate Combat.
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Who should I interview next? 🥋
George St Pierre sensei Jesse
Stephen 'wonderboy' Thompson!
@@tomas-tl1jf that would be cool 😎
GSP, and anderson silva
Conor MC Gregor 😁
You know you have a good channel, when Lyoto Machida says he follows it.
It's like a certificate haha
I was so honored!! 🙏
@@darkmegaman44 it's like getting a black belt. 😉
It's honorable in every imaginable way. I even feel honored to have been able to wach this interview. Thanks a lot to you two! Keep up!
More than what CZcams can award you :)
An old Japanese chef once said:
"Respect the old, but seek out the new."
Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it!
📠
Dude, that profile picture.
A young Chinese actor once said: "Be water, my friend."
Spiderman's dad said "With great power come freedom from responsibility"
He’s also the most successful sumo wrestler to ever compete in the UFC! (Seriously)
WHAT??
I won’t call him a sumo wrestler, he might have trained it but did he compete as a sumo wrestler ?
@@Alfie_7 Yes he apparently not only competed but won several sumo tournaments at the amateur level.
Hahah yeah. Didn't he also practice some judo? His takedowns and sweeps were amazing.
Lyoto, jesse, and ramsey three of the nicest guys in mma. Would love to see a collab
Finally someone like Lyoto Machida Sensei spoke out what I felt as a Karate practitioner for many years. As much as I am old school and conservative in Karate to keep tradition, we need to be open minded to separate traditional from modern applications. Especially when it comes to fight sports (MMA cage fights, competitions) or even self defense situations. Thank you for the interview!
the answer is simply a lot of kumite what Lyoto Machida said and use whatever is practical for this.
The problem with karate tournaments these days is its watered down so much its laughable. it really has stopped the power and beauty of karate
@@tonynomikos3702 it became sportier in a sense
@@genghiskhan6485 yeah, it's like foil fencing. I understand that fencing needs to be points-based sports because you can't be killing/maiming your opponent on every match, but i think karate is not as deadly as sword fighting and shouldn't be restricted as much. Karate competitions can benefit from boxing/mma style rules just like in K1.
@@sepg5084 but Machida also says karate isn’t just punching and kicking. Translation: that just would be kickboxing. K1 rules IS for kickboxing. Machida was a point-fighter. You train fighting IQ and uses more than just kicking and punching in a point-fighting competition. He uses his point point-fighting style in MMA. Because strength and body conditioning can be trained intensively later if you want to fight full contact, which was what he did. Any competition that bans groin attacks isn’t real.
The Dragon and The Karate Nerd in one video? Too good to be true.
It was an absolute honor!! 🙏
I'm glad people like Lyoto are speaking up about it.
When I say something like "Training kata doesn't really prepares you for a fight" older people treat me like an heretic. So now I have this interview to show them.
Thank you, Jesse San.
I think it can be indirectly helpful for fighting and conditioning to an extent, but definitely not a requirement.
@@BatkoBrat For conditioning you can also do bagwork, push ups, jogging.
@@lucascastro2802 Missing the point here lads, sport fighting is something different, because there is a referee. No ref in the street, no rules.never let them hit you first, and having a defence that is ingrained will take over when your frightened & hurt and some one attacks you.
@@timbutton4990 What you learned in sparring is more likely to take over in a street fight than what you learned in kata or kihon.
Kata is important too.
This is one of the most underrated interviews in the Karate world. So much great advice and wisdom there from Lyoto Machida.
Thank you!!
"Learning to fight without an opponent is like learning to swim on dry land.” - Bruce Lee
Dont hit the water drink the water." -- Bruce lee
"Why so many Bruce Lee quotes". -- ME
"Bruce Lee was no fighter" - Ranch Life
@@ranchlife8128 he was
@@ranchlife8128 no
Jesse, people often forget a simple fact. Kata teaches techniques. It doesn't teach you strategies and tactics. Those are things you have to learn on your own via sparring.
Wasn't there a specific name for the application of the technique inside Katas?
Great point! So much to learn 💪
@@JosephFlores-yn4yi yeah.
Kata needs the bunkai phase to produce specific technique.
I have always viewed techniques and kata as boxes of LEGOS. When we first start learning Karate we get a little set of LEGOS and sensei gives us that little instruction pamphlet with the LEGOS that shows us how to build something. Then we learn kata and that is like getting a bigger box of LEGOS and with it, again we get this pamphlet of how everything fits together. Then we get shown Bunkai, and that is taking that pieces out of those set of LEGOS and showing us that hey you can also build this, this and this. What gets lost is the encouragement to take those LEGO bricks and add to them by learning other martial arts and by practicing kata and taking it apart and mixing and matching. I believe especially in terms of bunkai, that often it was meant to be an example to get your thinking and seeing that -hey here is one application of things you learned in the kata- there are more, but I'm going to show you a few to get you started. Here are your LEGOs(kata), here is what I built with those LEGOS(bunkai), your welcome to copy what I built, but you should also try to build something on your own.
Well, there are some tactics in kata, like getting angles, for example, certain combinations, etc. But, just from repeating them kata after kata, again and again, they won't work, not in sparring, kumite, or real self defense situations. You have to take those ideas that exist in kata, and practice them under pressure in sparring or self defense like scenarios, modifiy them as required and practicing again under pressure, until you get the desired result. I thnik that's what Lyoto Machida did. From the other side, practicing kumite and bunkai will certainly improve your performance in competitive kata, as Rika Usami said she did!
Even Gichin Funakoshi said that practicing kata is one thing, real fighting is another issue!
Lyoto speaking difficult truths here.
With the utmost respect as he always does. ♥
Almost as difficult as his English xD
I jk, I jk
yeap and you can almost see Jesse having a small tear building up as it drops inward into the eye
@@shapshooter7769 Nah, his English is suave and tactic, it's his voice which sounds like he has scrambled eggs with bacon for Bkfst every morning, and no coffee but a double expresso shot of Jack Daniel's on the side, to chase them down and smooth his throat to round the Guido accent?
All being very polite and trying not to offend those into The Art, root of all, but they should understand he is not into Art but what effective in Sports and prize fights. 2 completely different worlds with different goals
HOW did you get a Machida interview!? Guys is a living legend! One of my favorite fighters of all time! Great insight and knowledge, love when masters can explain their thought processes .
I was wondering that myself. Jesse is a BOSS!
When I learned Shotokan, I was taught that kata is a choreographed fight. We did some bunkai but nothing too deep. Later in life a good friend who’s a long time Wing Chun practitioner said “forms(kata) are a syllabus of techniques to be mastered independently, then combined with one another”, which is in line with what Mr. Machida said. It’s possible that this line of thinking would be beneficial to adopt into modern karate training in order to make its value more relevant in MMA.
Awesome video.
It's great to have someone like Lyoto Machida to represent Brazil in Karate! Have to agree to what he said: of course training only kata won't make you a better fighter. It gives you the "tuning" of the techniques. But if you want to go for kumite, train kumite. You have to adapt your training to your goals, and not get stuck with a close-minded thinking.
Truth! The only thing constant in life is change... 🐉
Você disse Brasil?
@@KARATEbyJesse and tax and death. 😣
@@Kzany42, não, ele disse Brazil 😎👍🏻
@@Kzany42 Vai dizer que tu não sabia que ele era brasileiro?
I'm a BJJ guy, but I love this channel. Keep up the fantastic work!
I appreciate that 🌟
@@KARATEbyJesse And I appreciate your videos, sincerely. :)
@@misterRDF brock lesnar
Kata is more like a Karate Bible or a Karate Library where techniques are stored than a method to learn how to fight. It is like a manual that can be used to see how a technique should be performed. It is like a visual dictionary of karaté that anyone can understand no matter what language one speaks. Great vid as always!
One of my favourite MMA fighters of all time. Love how honest he is about traditional applications in modern day combat, whilst still being respectful to his roots. Great interview with a great man! 👍
I had to read the title again and again 😂. Damn brother you've interviewed everyone from old Okinawan masters to UFC fighter. Keep up the great content! 👊
What can I say… I’m a Karate Nerd! 😁🥋🙏
Not only a fight, a former champ
Jesse, I gotta believe this was a small dream come true for a karate nerd like yourself! 😄 Lyoto is definitely a legend, mad respect.
Yes!!! 🌟🌟🌟
Definitely. He is 1 of my favorite MMA fighters of all time.
Dude I might of screamed like a little school girl. Not out loud but internally for certain.
That front kick you see on the video knocked out Randy Couture on his retirement fight. He expressed that he wanted his last fight with Lyoto. I believed I've never cried watching a fight until I saw Lyoto crying because he won but he had mixed feelings about it. One of the top ten moments in the history of MMA.
When someone does some so called "Kata" techniques in Kumite, people try to label those as application of Kata in Kumite. In my opinion those should be considered only as Karate techniques not Kata techniques. I couldn't agree more with Lyoto, if there is a good technique which is present in a Kata as well, I'd rather do that particular techniques 100 times than doing the whole Kata 100 times.
Yeah! Sometimes I think that should be the default, as if the kata was the book with the theories, not the book with the exercises.
100% agree
Perfect
You do not have a real understanding of kata, or karate. They are one and the same. There is no karate without kata. The kata is the blueprint. All the techniques are within the kata and they have to be taken apart and deciphered. At this point is where the techniques are applied in a classroom setting. Many of the techniques cannot be used in MMA, as they involve striking nerves and cavity of the body. Footwork, body shifting, and movements that are equivocally called "blocks" and "stances" are to be used in the same manner BJJ techniques are done. Problem is that most Dojo do not have this type of training. But some of us have been trained this way. The fact that you have not seen this type of Karate, does not negate its existence.
There are other aspects of martial application that kata training develop, but will not be obvious to those without. But the one thing I want to make clear is that we practitioners of the Classical Okinawan Karate are always dissecting and extracting technique, to practice with our dojo family. Really - kata is the real sensei. It has all the arsenal you can ever need. But it is a Life Protection - Life Preservation Art. MMA cannot take advantage all that karate has to offer. MMA's ultimate application and goal is the win. Karate's goal is to preserve life.. to live.
@@Koryuhoka don't hit the water drink the water."-- Bruce Lee
Lyoto is a fellow Karate Nerd, love it! Would like to see you talk with Stephen Wonder Boy Thompson. Keep up the great videos!
It’s on my list! 😄
@@KARATEbyJesse and GSP too would be nice!
Lyoto is everything good that one can expect from a karateka, and from a man! He and GSP are the reason why I started to watch MMA!
Much respect for both of you! Thank you for this interview. Oss!
Lyoto „The Dragon“ Machida is one of my favorite fighters. Very humble and a real role model. And I guess it has something to do with his traditional martial arts background. 🥋👊🔥
I am from algeria, and i respect you both,this is What we need to evolve karate and jumping to the next level
Damn. You got the interview with machida! Nice. He seems so humble.
Take the fundementals of your style that work in MMA (or self-defense) and suppliment them with other styles to reduce blindspots. My father, a Uechi-ryu sensei, was fantastic at this. He also had experience with boxing and taught us boxing techniques/fundementals. As a teenager I started learning BJJ. He immediately had me teach him and the other students what I learned. I'd cringe when I'd see other senseis who stubbornly clung to the belief that there was nothing to learn outside of the system.
And reading dis, I gots mad respect 4 ur father!
More martial artists should adopt your approach in their training.
I think a part of the problem for a lot of learners is, well how much time do you have? can you afford multiple gyms? are there multiple good ones in the area with different styles?
More than just tradition is that unless martial arts is your life (and job description) then learning multiple disciplines may just not be feasable unless you find a place that teaches more than one.
@@TGPDrunknHick you make some very good points.
Karate was never originally developed to work or be taught in isolation from other martial arts. The gaps in karate are obvious and it's partly the reason why there are so many different versions - people have tried to fill in the gaps whilst keeping it karate. If people can cross-train, judo/Japanese ju jitsu/aikido/etc would all be good accompaniments that retain that traditional-ness.
Lyoto Machida breathes
Jesse: Yeah, yeah....righht!
Breathing is essential!!
Oss!
Oss! I love your fights! ❤️
Osu!
Me an muay thai guy : learning everything about karate to defeat karate people
MY GOALS ARE BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION
Sagat?
A really well trained(in karate) individual that knows what he's doing is going to be hard if not impossible to defeat, this vid ain't gonna help you though since he didn't explain any moves.
@@user-eq6oy1uq2c Nobody is impossible to beat simply based on their fighting style except on the elite level and even then stand up fighting styles leave much to chance vs grappling styles. Anyone can get knocked out, Lyoto and Wonderboy have been finished and they're world class karate technicians
@@333rdAlchemist I didn't said impossible, also it depends what kind of fighting style and the nature and skill of the fighter, modern karate is only punches and kicks but a good thing if executed properly are blocks, the original one had so much more, grappling styles are just outright overrated if that a bjj dude is going for a takedown I'll just kick him in the head simple, and I didn't said anyone was knockout resistant
@@user-eq6oy1uq2c whelp that's one way to say you have zero experience in violent encounters or even combat sports. Of world class fighters Nd martial artists can't pull it off what makes you think you can?
Yes you did say impossible, and no being great at kata doesn't make you great at fighting be any means it only makes you great at kata.
His English has become so good! Living legend! :D
After almost 20 years I took up my Karate (Kempo) training again after I watched your videos. Thank you, Jesse. In a certain way you became my online sensei. :-)
Love it. Wish you make longer interview next time sensei. Thank you for your work
"I follow your channel and that's is good" Caraca, mitou demais com esse final em Jessy. Parabéns
Wow, Lyoto Machida! Well done Jesse Sensei. Love this video
Thank you!
@@KARATEbyJesse I just love this guy, Sensei!
LIke you said in China Journey, he learns other martial arts to improve his karate. In this case, he made karate super practical in combat sport and MMA. But the way he moves in the ring, his stances, you still could see and feel his Karate in every moves he made. Big fans of you and him! Great job!
Very nice thanks for sharing with us this moment 😊
I will sub if a longer interview is done. Hearing experts talk about their crafts is always amazing, especially for a martial art as rich as Karate.
Hi everyone, thanks Jesse for the interview, i'm a brazilian and Lyoto it's a great fighter and we are very proud of him ! Thanks so much, your channel it's top !
Oss...
I am extremely grateful to Lyoto Machida, in my region many fighters of MMA came to me looking for Karate because of him. I happened to come across this channel a few months ago and I was very happy and now seeing both in one video is really a gift. That's what Lyoto's birthday is.
Thanks for this interview mate, I found these questions interesting indeed !
Thank you for the interview
I just stumbled upon the ultimate interview in CZcams.
Haha thank you!!
Lyoto, orgulho do karatê brasileiro!
Great interview. Very insightful. Thank you guys!
Great interview! Lyoto absolutely describes the truth about karate and also the misunderstandings. If you want to learn to fight, then you have to fight. If you want to learn self defense do this. You have to adapt. Kata can create the conditions and is good training if you don't have a partner! Big respect, thank you and keep on fighting... 👊🤣🤟
kata can still be used for training and is useful tool for soft training that will lower injuries but also allow the body to be able to perform movement. It can also help people drill for movement.
OMG, Thanks Jesse!!! Lyoto is one of my favorites all time figthers, and gets from him, his view of Karatê aplications was great!
Congrats from Brazil!
Amazing video and interview Sensei Enkamp!!! Absolutely loved this. When I saw Lyoto Machida use Hiza Geri in the fight I was blown away.
Hearing Lyoto say that he follows your channel made me smile bro. That’s gotta be a dream come true for you👊🏽👏🏽
Wonderboy! That would be awesome!
I don’t do karate myself but love your vids! Keep it up ✌🏻
Awesome that you pulled off this interview bro.
Thank you for this perspective. This was a treat.
Can we get a longer interview with Loyto. The guy is a legend and my hero
Oss Lyoto Sensei!!! Machida is the reason I started training Shotokan. Thank you for this upload, and excellent interview Jesse Sensei!!!
Congratulations on getting the interview and asking Lyoto some good questions. The fact that he follows your channel is impressive. His English is pretty good.
Awesome interview-loved it
This is unbelievable having the dragon for an interview. Jesse you sir are a genius! Next interview - Gosei or Goshi Yamaguchi. I believe Gosei still teaches in San Francisco.
Grande Machida Sensei. Treino com um Sensei conhecido de sua família: Adilson Lopes. Oss!
Nice video with great questions for the karate champ.
Wow… big fan, very cool.
You definitely need to do a long form interview w him. I could see this conversation go for hours. There you go man, next addition to the channel, long form interviews w material artists, especially about traditional arts modification for mma.
My favorite mma fighter of all time. The respect he shows to others and to the sport are truly inspiring.
Such an awesome interview! I love that you defend traditional karate but don't lie about what it's limitations are. I feel more confident studying my karate because I know it will make me strong, but recognizing my weaknesses makes me more humble. Thank you for uploading this.
Great interview. Learned so much just by listening.
Fantastic video man, love the dragon, his style and the interview that you had with him 🔥🥋
used to do traditional TKD (more similar to Karate) and from that experience I really think that Kata can help with things like balance, weight distribution and transfer, coordination and relaxation, in addition to being a good workout. But you shouldn't rely on it for pure techique or tactics.
Nice interview.
That man is mentally respectful on another level. Awesome conversation!
He explained it so well. Respect the tradition and the art but also evolve and be practical to realize if its helpful in a certain situation or no... Great to get Lyoto on ur channel Jesse..
Excuse my lingo but my literal reaction when Lyoto Machida came on screen was "Holy shit!"
And he's subscribed to you too! Awesome. Thanks for the video you're pointing out what needs to be pointed out.
Also does this mean you're gonna be involved in karate combat?
Now we need an interview with wonderboy!
Thanks, Master! Excellent channel!
Thanks for the information
Lyoto is one of the most respectable and humble fighter. I like the guy.
Here's my hot take 😛
Kata is your car going on inspection.
Bunkai is learning how to drive.
Kumite is driving.
It's all necessary. No one thing replaces another.
What a legend,thanks for the awesome interview!
Red Chucks would be worth hearing on karate in streetfights and elite level breaking
Thank you Jesse for this interview. Lyoto Machida is a fantastic Karate practitioner. For me, he dominated UFC by his mastery of Go No Sen and Sen No Sen.
Once I was flying from São Paulo to Belem Dec 2014 in Brazil, he was sitting right after me(the day after UFC in São Paulo). Had chance to talk to him, such a nice man. One of the best MMA master in the world.
Nice discussion and video, man.
Lyoto Machida, Wonderboy and MVP!
Nice one - I am impressed of how experienced and wise a 28 year old fighter can be 😉
Actually, how old Lyoto is ? 🤔
Nice and really instructive interwiew. I am agree with the Master speach. So thanks.
Great interview with a great guy. I wish it was longer. You should interview his brother too.
Machida thought the same way as Ip Man and his student Bruce Lee. They didn't stick to tradition instead they explore more about their selves.
Jesse! Get out of my head! It’s starting to freak me out! I started researching Machida only a few months ago and learning from his career based on your channel’s inspiration and NOW YOUR NEWEST INTERVIEW IS OF MACHIDA! It’s like if I think it, you make it! At this point, I feel like having a drink or some food with you would strike some very similar conversations. I’m jealous you got to meet Lyoto face to face!
Awesome interview!
Oh wow! I wish this was a longer interview!
Imagine meeting the Dragon himself, look at the size of his knuckles, a living legend.
MMA is a sport. Traditional karate is like entering a Rembrandt in a surrealism exhibit. The debate isn't even worth it.
What a fun analogy!
A truly fantastic video. Have been a fan of Lyoto Machida for some time and as many have said, he's one of the reasons that I started an interest in MMA. Thank you very much for this.
What a great interview! I’m a fan and was ecstatic when he won in the UFC 🤗
Great questions you asked Sensei 🙏
He is a brazilian Ryu.
Orgulho de ser brasileiro.
🙏🏽🇧🇷
Temos o o One Punch Man, que foi o Francisco Filho.
Machida looks sharp!
He was!
Excellent interview!
Great video ! (yet again)...it's rare to see so much respect between two people, permeating through the screen.
As a brazilian I can say, Lyoto is really such a great and humble guy.
So basically Kata is useful with bunkai but it's not the be all end all, practicing the kihon is also very important, but most important after all of that is the Kumite since like Chinzo Machida said in a different interview Martial Arts without sparring is like learning a language without ever having a conversation with another person.
Great interview!
Great honor. Thank you for the interview master Enkamp.
For the next time try to interview the other succesful karate fighter in MMA: George St Pierre