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  • @philipadams5386
    @philipadams5386 Před rokem +13

    Karajan (pronounced Ka-ra-yan) was once so powerful that he was occasionally referred to as the General Director of Music, Europe.

    • @ModusVivendiMedia
      @ModusVivendiMedia Před rokem

      Yes, for a while he was music director or a prominent conductor of the Berlin Philharmonic, Vienna State Opera, Orchestra de Paris, and Philharmonia in London, most of them at the same time, as well as the Salzburg Festival. He helped make the Berlin Philharmonic the richest/best-paid orchestra in the world, mostly through its many recordings and TV appearances. He was famous for his love of skiing, sports cars, and flying his private plane, as well as for conducting with his eyes closed.

  • @cristianalef6042
    @cristianalef6042 Před rokem +7

    Tchaikovsky's symphonies are superb, the true pinnacle of the Romantic period. My music teacher used to say that all composers make mistakes in their compositions and that music evolves from those mistakes. In the works of Tchaikovsky, however, there is no mistakes. Only perfection, in such a way that Tchaikovsky did not contribute to the evolution of music at all, for the simple fact that there is no mistakes in his works. I recommend his fifth symphony next. My favorite! You gonna love it!

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer Před rokem +11

    Karajan and Tchaikovsky is definately a good combination. People keep on citing his name as an example of exellence, and while he certainly was a great conductor, he was not a jack-of-all-trades (like Bernstein).
    He was as the music critic Dave Hurwitz says "A chord guy". He was good in music that thinks vertically, that is about orchestral colour and not so much about individual lines and clarity.
    Tchaikovsky is perfect for that kind of approach. That is why he was so good at conducting his music. But he was bad at music that thought more horizontally, like Bach or Mozart.
    The one thing you can critizise him for are these concert films he did, like this one. He was also responsible for directing these and he is so enamoured with himself that he often likes to show himself.
    And a little something about the work:
    This is perhaps the key work of Tchaikovskys output (the Pathetique aside). The one were he was the most open about the intentions behind the music in letters to his brother and his patron Nadesha von Meck. The opening fanfare symbolizes fate, cruel, cold, unmoving. The rest of the work is about his struggle with fate.
    To understand the context: He had just married, with full knowledge of his homosexuality, in a futile attempt to fight his inclinations and lead a "normal" life that society would accept.
    And it was a catastrophe! It ended with him trying to drown himself in a lake.
    This symphony is a reaction to that time.

    • @ModusVivendiMedia
      @ModusVivendiMedia Před rokem

      I would say that Karajan was idolized in past generations (such as when I was in school - as an aspiring conducting student I certainly did), but he has gone quite a bit out of fashion in the last couple of decades. (Today I would be more likely to try to emulate the conducting of Herbert Blomstedt than Herbert von Karajan.) People still recognize and respect his work, but not so many people turn to him for everything (or maybe even much of anything) any more, there are so many other great performances of everything now, often even better played, recorded, and interpreted.

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer Před rokem +2

      @@ModusVivendiMedia When I was young he was in his final decade and had already lost much of his appeal.
      Chocolate sauce, was what they called the sound he created. All fluffy, no substance.
      I have all his DG recordings. Got the boxes on a bargain and wanted to finally figure out if his legendary status was deserved.
      In some places he still reigns supreme.
      The opera recordings he made are still the best with the exception of the Mozart he did.
      His Brahms, Bruckner and Tchaikovsky are still top tier.
      The rest highly overrated. Ant the sound of the BPO from those days? Well you notice it right here. The brass is way too agressive and could use some rounding of tone. I'd rather listen to the CSO brass of that time.
      The string sound however is unmatched.

    • @BCTMarcus
      @BCTMarcus Před rokem

      @@Quotenwagnerianer I think his Mozart operas also got worse during the end of his career. In earlier times (already starting in the mono era, recorded for EMI), they were quite good imho. I also like his Figaro recording of 1978, and his 1985 Don Giovanni - despite being too slow and over weighted - is still listenable thanks to soloists like Samuel Ramey, Ferruccio Furlanetto and Kathleen Battle.

  • @featherineaugustusaurora3416

    Great reaction,the 4th movement is s intense, can't wait to see you reaction to it.

    • @huge-jaj.mp4834
      @huge-jaj.mp4834 Před rokem

      I saw in the description of the original video "WARNING TO HEADPHONES USERS" for the fourth movement.
      The last minute of the first movement was already so intense, I can't imagine how much the fourth will be 😁

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 Před rokem +1

      While the first movement is very dark, the fourth movement is in the contrary very exciting ! Both ending of these movements are intense indeed.

    • @featherineaugustusaurora3416
      @featherineaugustusaurora3416 Před rokem

      @@huge-jaj.mp4834 yeah,it was so intense that i can't get enough of that finale.IMO one of the best Symphonic Finale

  • @huge-jaj.mp4834
    @huge-jaj.mp4834 Před rokem +9

    You definitely should react to the 5th symphony of Tchaikovsky also conducted by Karajan 😁

  • @matthewweflen
    @matthewweflen Před rokem +15

    This is one of the all time great Tchaikovsky conductor/orchestra combos. Titanic performance.

    • @bullshitman155
      @bullshitman155 Před 11 měsíci

      another one definitely Rozhdestvensky/USSR State and Radio Symphony Orchestra! Recorded in the 70's, but the sound quality is immaculate.

  • @rafaelteodoro2703
    @rafaelteodoro2703 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Tchaikovsky is INSANE!!! Awesome

  • @Misha.K23040
    @Misha.K23040 Před rokem +2

    You are totally right about the conductor's passion making the music even more enjoyable! That's why I try to choose video performances, so that the conductor is legendary but you also get to see him

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 Před rokem +2

    One of my favorite symphonies, I’m sure you will love the two other movements (especially the last). Karajan is very good here, you picked a very nice performance.

  • @trevorcollins25
    @trevorcollins25 Před 4 měsíci

    That opening theme by the brass is supposed to represent, in a letter by the composer, “the fatal power which prevents one from attaining the goal of happiness…” The opening is actually in Simple Triple time (3/4) with triplets in it, but the main work is in Compound Triple time (9/8). This is why that original theme is able to overlay so well WHILE IN 9/8!! Normally 3/4 time divides into 3 groups of eighth notes, but 9/8 is just 3 groups of 3 eighth notes, or 3/4 with each eighth note in a triplet. And that opening theme in 3/4 already had triplets!!
    Music + Math = the best music!!

  • @BCTMarcus
    @BCTMarcus Před rokem +1

    Not a Von Karajan fanboy (cuz he kinda 'slickened' up quite a few of my favourite music/composers), but... he and Pjotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky make a wonderful combination. Funny actually, cuz Von Karajan was a master of control and poor Pjotr suffered from a lot of neuroses, which is most definitely audible in quite a few of his compositions.
    Tchaikovsky was also a divine master of melody though. Melodies to die for. And Von Karajan mastered his orchestral works and symphonies.
    Great to watch someone 'meeting up' with classical music. Carry on!

  • @vishalsubramanian2051
    @vishalsubramanian2051 Před rokem +2

    YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO RAVEL STRING QUARTET AND DEBUSSY STRING QUARTET

  • @sashakindel3600
    @sashakindel3600 Před rokem +6

    It's possible that you underestimate how many good conductors there are. In my estimation, it's not like there are just two or three that are categorically better than all the rest. Thinking over my favorite recordings of a variety of pieces, the conductors include but aren't limited to, in no particular order, Karajan, Kleiber, Celibidache, Boulez, Abbado, Chailly, Klemperer, Sinopoli, Salonen and Orozco-Estrada. Many of those pieces were recorded by multiple of those conductors, and I prefer one conductor on one piece and a different conductor on a different piece. There is a similar bounty of good soloists, and orchestras.

    • @GIDIREACTS
      @GIDIREACTS  Před rokem +1

      I haven’t experienced a lot of conductors that’s why my excitement is always different for certain ones but I know there are a lot of amazing conductors that I haven’t seen yet

  • @manueljoseblancamolinos8582

    Romeo y Julieta y Francesca da Rimini son dos poemas sinfónicos magníficos de Chaikovsky.

  • @Cattrix999
    @Cattrix999 Před rokem

    Loved this!!

  • @Truthinfiction7
    @Truthinfiction7 Před rokem

    I luckily stumbled on CZcams performances of this conductor when I first started getting into classical music. Specifically with Beethoven. Seeing him conduct the Fifth and Ninth Symphonies were astonishing to me. To the point of downloading the videos on CZcams in 2010 and converting them to MP3 files so I could walk around listening to the it on my iPod classic.
    I think you’d love Karajan conducting the same orchestra on Tchaikovsky’s fifth symphony. The first movement is a stunner.

  • @keliwana2946
    @keliwana2946 Před rokem +1

    If you haven’t noticed, Karajan keeps his eyes closed when he conducts. Totally in the zone

  • @ancientsolar2
    @ancientsolar2 Před rokem +2

    Have a recommendation for you - * Carnival of the animals - Saint-Saens (performed by the Kanneh-Masons ) -- * -- about 22minutes , every piece describes an animal, -- Mind will be blown !

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 Před rokem +1

      I didn’t know pianists are animals 😂

    • @ancientsolar2
      @ancientsolar2 Před rokem

      @@Dylonely42 then you haven't lived haha, we have claws.. we hibernate while simultaneously nocturnal ;) and we hunt food with uber eats and just eat

  • @vishalsubramanian2051
    @vishalsubramanian2051 Před rokem +1

    You should listen to korngold violin concerto and glazunov violin concerto too. Especially korngold

  • @thethikboy
    @thethikboy Před rokem

    Tchaikovsky knows how to weep uncontrollably. Welcome to the pinnacle of Romantic music.

  • @Sh.moon.
    @Sh.moon. Před rokem +4

    Great reaction as ever, though I would have preferred that you react to Markevitch's Tchaikovsky, but Karajan's is still good.

  • @pesjaner1
    @pesjaner1 Před rokem +2

    Congratulation for not drinking out of plastic bottle! 🙂

  • @user-hh3qg2yh1b
    @user-hh3qg2yh1b Před rokem

    I’m not gonna lie, I’ve listened to countless Tchaikovsky 4 recordings and wow this one is definitely in my top 3 already and it’s just the first movement. I don’t know how I never listened to a Karajan recording of this piece before.

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 Před rokem

      Then I wish you will listen to the whole performance !

  • @reubenlee6438
    @reubenlee6438 Před rokem

    Great reaction man. This is one of his best symphonies for sure. Very hard-hitting stuff. Have you heard his 6th symphony? That's probably the most powerful symphony I've ever heard and it just hits differently than the other symphonies. On top of that it has a really interesting back story of what Tchaikovsky was going through at the time.

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 Před rokem

      He reacted to 6 but I think it was removed on his channel because of copyrights.

    • @minasmigkosgymnastics8742
      @minasmigkosgymnastics8742 Před rokem +1

      @@Dylonely42 no it’s not I just listened to it 😅

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 Před rokem

      @@minasmigkosgymnastics8742 Thanks for the update.

  • @ModusVivendiMedia
    @ModusVivendiMedia Před rokem

    It will be a LONG TIME before you run out of fascinating, powerful, exciting, moving classical music to discover, with unique qualities you hadn't encountered in other pieces or composers.

  • @jrshane6243
    @jrshane6243 Před rokem +2

    give a listen to Saint Saens organ symphony no 3 , i think you will enjoy it

  • @manueljoseblancamolinos8582

    Chaikovsky compuso esta sinfonia, el concierto para violin y orquesta y la ópera Eugene Oneguin en poco más de un año. Tres de sus mejores obras, cada una de un género distinto, en poco más de un año.

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 Před rokem

      What a genius artist… one of the best of all time.

  • @anthropocentrus
    @anthropocentrus Před rokem +1

    Colossal KARAJAN….the Top-selling conductor (or any classical artist) of ALL time…a world wide celebrity. Very tech savy guy, he employed only the best, top-notch, video/audio equipment, and production, of the time ( you’re watching something from the early 70’s) ( the first CD EVER made (!)…was a Karajan recording of a work by Strauss “Eine Alpensinfonie”). Him, Bernstein and Solti essentially dominated the market. This is part of a big series of amazingly produced performances…they are all amazing spectacles

    • @GIDIREACTS
      @GIDIREACTS  Před rokem

      Yeah I was surprised by the overall quality tbh

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer Před rokem +3

      @@GIDIREACTS This is because Karajan basically cheated for most his concert films. This only looks like a live performance. But the audience are paid extras or cardboard cut-outs, and the orchestra plays playback to their own recording of the work that they released on record. The members kept telling these stories decades later, how they would have to repeat passages for the closeup shots over and over again. And that the challenge was to play exactly as they played on the recording.

    • @anthropocentrus
      @anthropocentrus Před rokem +1

      @@Quotenwagnerianer yes, HIGHLY produced, but hey its a glorious looking final product I would say.

  • @cbooth2004
    @cbooth2004 Před rokem +1

    Von Karajan is very good, but when it is the Russian symphonies, Yevgeni Svetlanov is the one to listen to. For the Tchaikowsky 5th, I love Sir Malcolm Sargent's performance best, but for 1-4, it is Svetlanov on the old Melodiya lable. That will make this seem loud but somnolent.

  • @acactus2190
    @acactus2190 Před rokem +4

    Nice reaction!
    May i suggest you finish reacting to the Chopin nocturnes? The latest ones are amazing!

  • @thedankest1974
    @thedankest1974 Před rokem +2

    Rachmaninoff symphonic dances

  • @nncortes
    @nncortes Před rokem

    Best Orchestra and Conductor in history! For better or worse, listening to the Berlin Phil under Karajan draws much more attention to them than Tchaikovsky. Karajan has absolute control over the orchestra consisting of the best players in the world.

  • @Walter_Arrecis_Letona

    Una melodía muy potente, lástima que no activaste los subtítulos para saber que decías. Saludos desde Ciudad de Guatemala en Centro América.

  • @BlackSlayer-qi2bu
    @BlackSlayer-qi2bu Před rokem +1

    Can u react to Beethoven's 3rd Symphony called Eroica which means heroic

    • @Ziad3195
      @Ziad3195 Před rokem

      PLEASE and listen to it conducted by Gardiner. Otherwise, it tends to be VERY boring. Gardiner also Conducts it in a historically informed manner and uses period instruments from Beethoven's time ❤️

  • @Queeen7q
    @Queeen7q Před 9 měsíci +1

    Без 4-й симфонии Чайковского не было бы 1-й Шостаковича: та же тональность (фа минор), то же вступление главной темы в РЕ миноре (!) в кульминации разработки (разработка перекрывает репризу).

  • @danieldroppa3170
    @danieldroppa3170 Před rokem

    Yes this symphony is very dynamical, loud at climaxes, soft in the middle. Rozhdestvensky recording is sometimes even noisier than Karajan 😅

    • @danieldroppa3170
      @danieldroppa3170 Před rokem

      Actually my first proper Tchaikovsky symphony was Third, not that much popular but has a great, gloomy Andante and similarly catchy Scherzo

    • @danieldroppa3170
      @danieldroppa3170 Před rokem

      I mean first that i heard, together with Romeo and Juliet Ouverture

  • @rosshart9514
    @rosshart9514 Před rokem +1

    Your eardrums may be too weak for Mahler's 6th. Ask your otologist before reacting to this piece! (Although I love his 4th the most.)

  • @rosshart9514
    @rosshart9514 Před rokem

    Ah, I see... You did the 6th, now the 4th, and save his very best--the5th--for the finals. Good idea!

  • @quecksilber457
    @quecksilber457 Před rokem +1

    It is such a difference if it is just some random conductor or arguably the GOAT Herbert von Karajan. The precision he expected from the musicians and at the same time the floatiness and timing of the music are just otherworldly. I have always been able to hear the slightest mistakes in music. And there are just none here.

  • @vishalsubramanian2051
    @vishalsubramanian2051 Před rokem +1

    Listen to Debussy Images

  • @markodebeljak1145
    @markodebeljak1145 Před rokem +1

    I listen a lot of classical music but mostly of this classical works in your reaction I never heard. :D This is example how classical music is big. But I started check how this classical works important. For this I use internet and internet said to me: #102 in greates classical work, #22 in greates simphony, #7 in Tchikovsky best works. These lists is great tool. You alwalys check if some recommend random or not. Ok, random can be interesting, but. Maybe you know for this lists?

    • @GIDIREACTS
      @GIDIREACTS  Před rokem +1

      I’ve never seen that list you just mentioned I mainly rely on the recommendations I get from the community

    • @markodebeljak1145
      @markodebeljak1145 Před rokem

      @@GIDIREACTS Digital Dream Door

  • @SkyCloudSilence
    @SkyCloudSilence Před rokem +1

    Such an enjoyable symphony. Karajan is definitely a big name. A simple way to pronounce his name is just saying "carry-on" in English 😁

  • @johankaewberg9512
    @johankaewberg9512 Před rokem

    Didn’t this guy invent ffff? (Forte Fortissemo Fortissemando For….Fucks sake.)

  • @gabrieleponziani7529
    @gabrieleponziani7529 Před rokem

    You are looking at the greatest director of all time. Among other things this execution is from 1971 and it is truly shocking to note how the quality of these films is very high. Karajan was also a pioneer of technology, able to exploit the potential of the camera to the fullest

  • @FirstGentleman1
    @FirstGentleman1 Před rokem

    Mit den ersten drei Symphonien des Meisters bin ich kaum vertraut, aber seine Nummern 4,5 und 6 gehören für mich zu den besten Werken dieser Gattung. Es sind große Meisterwerke voller Schönheit, Melodie, Leidenschaft, ja, begeisternder Kraft.

  • @ModusVivendiMedia
    @ModusVivendiMedia Před rokem

    Ah yes, one of Herbie's stylized and narcissistic music videos! Still not a bad performance I suppose.