How the Wrists Work And What to Avoid
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Learn the fundamentals of how your wrists work in golf and what to avoid to improve your game! Discover the key role your wrists play in generating power and maintaining balance on your swing. Don't miss out on this essential wrist motion tutorial - subscribe now!
Time Stamp
00:00 Introduction
01:01 Overview of wrist motion
03:00 The three planes of motion
05:35 Impact Alignment
05:55 Lag club
06:20 Patterns to avoid
07:35 Excessive hinge leads to slices
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❤Love this focus on the hands/wrists ... and DOUBLE love the dispensing with all the medical/technical jargon. Simplicity is key. Dealing with limited hip mobility, I have tripled my focus on the true action of the hands and wrists throughout the swing with careful attention to making the move as "Natural" as possible and not adding any additional influence. Shall we say, Letting go and letting Sir Isaac drive what is happening, at what some would call the "Moment of Truth" (which is actually occurring milliseconds before impact) ... Fantastic video.
Many thanks. As you say, if a golfer has limitations elsewhere (most golfers) then good arm and wrist motion can make up for a lot.
@@GolfCoachDrNoelHow about with zero extension capability with the trail wrist? 🙂 Oh, and limited supination capability with that trail forearm? Working on chipping and pitching capabilities is the current conclusion. 🙂
@@mntlblok That’s tough but don’t be limited or labelled/defined by this. You don’t need much of either of those and the body is incredible at adapting around its constraints.
@@GolfCoachDrNoelHave about worn out all the variables and their combos via our handy dandy Mevo+ Pro Package club data feedback. Can pretty well get the FTT down to within 2° on either side and the path within1°, but too lazy to deal with the drudgery of the amount of practice to keep it there. 🙂Yet remain curious as to whether it's laziness or the wrist limitation that keeps my lead wrist so cupped at the top with that ugly looking crossing of the line that seems mighty closely related. Fascinating to finally have it clarified that maximum "hinge" requires all that extension. Right up there with finally "getting" that trail shoulder internal rotation (I think) can only happen with separation of the trail elbow from the body - for having the club face close beyond what trail arm pronation can do. 🙂
Great information, got away from L to L concepts because I felt restricted now realize the wrist action is critical vs perception of making a 9 to 3 motion. So many swing thoughts, so little time. Looking forward to unpacking my endless swing thought shortly.😊
Thanks Jack. I see L-L as the base ingredients of any golf swing. Sure, certain aspects get refined at a high skill level but the concepts in this video come from Tour data so we know this basic pattern is great starting point. For you, with too many concepts competing for headspace, this is a simple workable model that can be refined later. I look forward to seeing your swing videos.
@@GolfCoachDrNoelIs L-L the same as "toe up to toe up"?
I guess so although L-L has more of a focus on the shape made by the lead arm and club in backswing and trail arm and club in follow through, thus prompting some wrist re-hinge in follow through.
good info
Many thanks, hope it helps
So do you ulnar/unhinge the wrist down on the same plane you want to swing on? Does this create the natural forearm rotation to square the club?
I would be cautious about stating a mechanical ‘absolute’ with so many variables at play but in general terms, yes you would unhinge down the plane line late in downswing but the external rotation of trail shoulder will have shallowed the plane somewhat. In my experience, high hcp players struggle keeping the wrists hinged long enough while very advanced players are trying to throw it out earlier.
@@GolfCoachDrNoel thank you for the clarification. I’m a seasoned golfer who battles a push and was told I was dragging the handle late in my downswing and was told to unhinge earlier to improve releasing the club. You seem to be simplistic with your explanations and I like your thoughts. Thank you again.
Thank you@@nathanperry9593 . What you are saying is certainly plausible. In my experience, overly dragging the handle leads to BIG blocks right.
I just hit the subscribe bell, I am curious how you'll rate the Hackmotion.
I’m just getting to grips with it but so far, I’m very impressed. As with all these things though, the value is in how you use it. Just knowing impact is incorrect is no good whatsoever. I’ll do a few videos with it and suggested uses.
@@GolfCoachDrNoel In my experience, the combination of video, (modest) launch monitor and HM will do a good job. It took me while to figure that out. HM will not tell you if you hit middle, or attack angle (although I think you can see the ulnar graph tremble if you hit the mat heavily first). For me the addition of video was needed to find out why my forearm rotation at P4 literally dipped off the charts. The steepening I needed to apply then gave me more room to increase flexion at impact without horribly pushing every ball to the right. Nice puzzle that was, but now I can say it was worth the money.
Sounds like it did the job in helping you diagnose a longstanding issue. Thanks for sharing.
Well, there is no active wrist hinge in the backswing; and we can never swing the club up. The only "extension" in the backswing is extensor extension. And, the only thing the left wrist joint does is push back. When the extensors have fully extended the wrist joint keeps pushing back; and, this effects a slight cupping of the wrist
Hi @DASH1ful
Can I try and understand what you are saying here a little bit more clearly; When you say ‘there is no active wrist hinge and you we can never swing the club up’ this is obviously different to most golfers experience so would you mind elaborating please?
)Might help my backswing actually)
In terms of the next point about extensor extension, are you describing your ‘ideal’ pattern or all swings?
Am in right in saying that when we radially deviate (I hate the use of such exclusive language but here we are ) we get some extension/cupping of the left wrist? Is this what you mean when you say ‘extensor extension’?
And is that different to what I described in the video?
I would also add that if there is one thing I have learnt over the years it is to hold my beliefs ‘loosely’ because you may not feel the same in time. Sorry, it was starting with ‘well’ that makes me feel like you have it all figured out. I prefer a softer more collaborative approach.
@@GolfCoachDrNoel The takeaway is two dimensional. The left wrist joint pushes back as the extensors in the left hand extend. The extensors extend in the waggle, as a player waggles the club back. The extensors have to extend to waggle the club back; and accommodate the downwards rotation of the left hand. The index finger side of the left hand presses against the right hand to return the club to the ball. This activates the flexor retinaculum in the left hand. The extensor digiti minimi and the digiti minimi resist against the flexor retinaculum as the club is returned to the ball. They have to, to stop the club from flipping. As the club is returned to the ball the extensors and the flexor retinaculum are fully activated. There is no big discovery in what I say. I am just simply looking at the physiology of the waggle. But, by looking at the physiology of the waggle it helps us to learn the importance of the waggle. However, there is one important thing that I have overlooked. If the hands are too low at address the extensors can't extend. To ensure that a players hands are high enough it helps if they grip the club lightly, when they first take their grip; and then raises their position by pressing back with the base of their neck. The weight of the clubhead will then press the handle of the club up against the heel pad of their hand and arch their wrist slightly. This, also, presses the left hand forwards and extends the extensors.